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DaveAsprey: You'relisteningtoBulletproofRadiowithDaveAsprey.Today'scoolfactofthedayisthatfoodscientistsandpharmaceuticalscientistshaveputtogethersomethinginteresting.Theylookedatwhatsilkwormsdowhentheymakecocoons,andtheyfiguredoutthattheycandoonamicroscopiclevelthesenanococoons,basicallyofsomethingcallednanofibrils.Theycanusethesetopackagedrugs,orpotentiallyeventhingslikenutraceuticals,intoanewdeliverysystem.

Asyouknow,it'snotnecessarilyaboutwhetheryouputsomethinginyourmouth,it'saboutwhetheryourbodyabsorbsit,sokindofcool.It'sgivenussomeideasfornewBulletproofsupplements,butmoreimportantly,thisisgoingtochangealotofthings,becauserightnow,ifyouhavetoinjectsomething,you'reprobablynevergoingtodoit,butifyoucangetitorally,itopensupawholenewrealmofbiohackingforyou,sokindofacoolfactoftheday.Beforewegetintotoday'sshow,IwanttotalkaboutasupplementthatcameaboutdirectlyasaresultofmyworkinHeadstrong.It'scalledForbose.

ForboseisanewwayofhelpingyourbodyrecycleATP.Youmightknow,ifyoulistentooneoftheseepisodes,thatATPisthemainenergymoleculethatyourbodyuses.YoutakefoodandairandyoumakeenergyusingATP.Theproblemisthatifthatprocessfailsalittlebit,youmakesomethingcalledAMP,whichisveryhardforyourbodytomanufacture,butthenyouhavetopeeoutyourAMP.WhenyoutakeForbose,ithasingredientsinit,thesearenaturalherbsandanaturaltypeofsugarthatdoesn'traiseyourbloodsugar,andthatcombinationcanactuallyhelpyourbodyrescuethisexpensivemoleculesoyoucanputitbackintoproductiontokeepyourbatteriescharged,whichisacoolhack.

It'ssomethingthatIdoeverysingleday,andespeciallywhenI'mgoingtotravelorexercise.It'scalledForbose,andit'soneofthemanywaysthatyoucangoaboutupgradingyourmitochondrialfunction.That'sacoolhack,andifyouhaven'ttriedit,youdidn'tcatchthatsectioninHeadstrong,that'sokay.Bulletproof.com,Forbose.

Allright.Today'sepisodeisgoingtobefantastic,andit'ssomethingthatI'mreallypleasedtobeabletodo.NotonlyamIinterviewingtheoneandonlyDr.Mercola,butwe'redoingitliveinthestudiohereonVancouverIsland.

Dr.Mercola: [crosstalk]

DaveAsprey: Dr.Mercola,thanksforcominguptotheisland.

Dr.Mercola: Well,it'sagreatprivilegeandhonortoseeyourBulletprooflab.

DaveAsprey: IwasprettyamazedwhenIfoundoutyouweregoingtobeintheareaandhaveachancetocomeby.Youmayremember,Dr.Mercola'sbeenonBulletproofRadiobefore,butifyoumaybedon'thaveaninternetaccount,youmightnothaveseenhim,butoverthelast20years,Dr.Mercolahasbecomethenumberoneonlinesourceforhealthinformation,intermsoftrafficandjustintermsofimpact.For20years,he'sbeenpioneeringforthingslikevitaminD,theeffectofsunlightonhealth,vitamins,nutrition,theimportanceofgrass-fedthings,theimportanceofeatingyourvegetables,andinterviewingsomeoftheworld'stoppeople.I'velearnedalotfromhim,andhe'shereinthestudiowithus.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,alsoexposingcorporatecorruption,whichisresponsibleforthemisinformationandmassivemisinformationthatconfusespeopleandcausesthemtomakethewrongchoices.

DaveAsprey: Infact,youareoneoftheleadingvoicesintheanti-glyphosatecommunity,andI'mrighttherewithyou.We'vegottostopsprayingpoisononoursoils.Yoursitehasbeenreallyinstrumentalbecauseyou'vepublishedtheoriginalresearch,like,"Hey,here'swho'spayingforwhat,here'swhat'sgoingon,"sotohavebeenouttherefightingthegoodfightfor20yearshastaughtyouathingortwo,andIthinkBulletproofRadiolistenersaregoingtolearnalotinthisinterview.

Dr.Mercola: Yes,indeed.

DaveAsprey: Theotherthingisyoujustpublishedanamazingbookaboutfact,calledFatforFuel,andthiscameoutaboutthesametimeasHeadstrong.YouandIaresoinalignmentthatI'lltellyou,ifyoulikedHeadstrongandyouhaven'treadDr.Mercola'sbookfromhislastinterview,youreallyneedtopickupFatforFuel.There'salotofgoodinformationinthere.It'snotthesameaswhat'sinHeadstrong,butit'sallcomplimentary.

Webothseetheworldwiththesamebasicprinciples,differentlenses.Ilearnedstufffromreadingthisbook,andyouwilltoo.It'sFatforFuel.

Dr.Mercola: Thankyou.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Let'ssee.There'ssomanythingsthatIcouldsayaboutyou.ThreeNewYorkTimesBestSellersandeffortlesshumor.

Dr.Mercola: Should'vebeenfour.

DaveAsprey: Let'stalkaboutthat.IthinkyousoldmorecopiesofFatforFuelthanIdidofHeadstrong.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,wewerethenumberonenonfictionbooksoldinthelastweekofMay-

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: ...onUSATodayandWallStreetJournal.

DaveAsprey: Youdidn'thittheNewYorkTimesBestSeller?

Dr.Mercola: Wedidn'tnotjusthitthelist,we[inaudible]thetop15.Theyexcludedus.

DaveAsprey: That'ssoweird.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.SupposedlywesoldtoomanybooksthroughAmazon,whichisreallyhardtounderstand,butthat'swhatthey-

DaveAsprey: YouwantedtosellbooksthroughAmazon.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Gofigure.

DaveAsprey: It'skindofrandom.

Dr.Mercola: It'sokay.Itiswhatitis.Thebookgotoutthere,wesoldalotofcopies,andwe'rejustexcitedtogivepeoplethebasicfoundationinformationthattheycanusetochangeyourhealth,becauseweknowit'sallaboutfuelingthemitochondria.

DaveAsprey: Itis.Whenyoupeelawaytheonion,wesay,"Oh,it'sneurotransmitters,orit'sthis,orit'sdieting,"orwhatever,itallboilsdowntoenergy.

Dr.Mercola: Itdoes,andthat'swhatIloveaboutyourwork,isthatyourecognizeit'snotjustfood,becauseIjustcamebackfromalowcarbconferenceandeveryonethereisjustfood,food,food.Italkedinanhourpresentation,Italkedaboutfiveminutesaboutfoodand55minutesabouttheotherbiohacksyoucanusetoimprovemitochondriafunction.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Youcansuckfoodintoyourselvesandturnitintoenergyinsteadoffatbetterifyoudotheseotherenvironmentalvariables.

Dr.Mercola: Absolutely.Yeah.

DaveAsprey: ThereasonthatIwantedtodoasecondinterviewwithyouwasbecauseIwanttotalkaboutthat.Ratherthantalkingaboutthe[vioketosis]wherewe'rebothinalignmentwiththat,butIwanttotalkspecificallyaboutelectromagneticfrequencies.You'vealsobeenoneoftheleadingvoicesgoingbackalongtimesayingthisiswhere[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Atleastexposingit,butnotintothedepththatI'mgoingtobe.Ithinkthat'smynextbook.

DaveAsprey: Nice.

Dr.Mercola: I'mprettyconfidentofthat,andit'sgoingtotakeayear.Ireallywanttodoagoodjobwithit,ishaveitpeer-reviewed.I'llfinditandidentifytheleadingresearchersintheworldwhounderstandthetruthandarenotcorruptedbytheindustry,andthenconvertthatinformationintolanguageasyouseeit,andunderstandanddoableandpracticalrecommendations.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.It'sreallyimportantbecausetherearesomanypeoplewhosay,"Well,ifitdoesn'tcookyourtissues,thennothinghappens,"which,frankly,isn'taveryscientificthingtosay.Youcouldsaywedon'tknowwhathappensifwe'renotcookingyourtissues,butmaybethere'ssomethingbecausethereappearstobeevidence.Infact,there'soverwhelmingevidenceofharm,it'sjustnotshort-termharm,it'slong-termharm,right?

Dr.Mercola: Well,sometimesitcanbeshort.

DaveAsprey: There'sshort-term?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Fairpoint

Dr.Mercola: Absolutely,yes.Dependingonyourcondition,clearlycanbeshort-term.

DaveAsprey: You'vebeenlookingatEMF's,I'vebeenlookingatEMF's.You'vebroughtyourEMFmeteruphere.We'vebeenplayingaround,beforerecordingtheshow,andunfortunately,wedidn'trecordhowmuchEMFwascomingoffallthestudiogearhere,buthopefullynottoobadbecauseeverythingiswiredbydesign,whichIthinkismost-

Dr.Mercola: Itreallyisasolution,orabigpartofthesolution,istowireit.WireyourselfandstoptheWi-Fi.That'sjustprobably,inreality,thesinglemostsignificantexposurepeoplehave,otherthantheircellphone.Imean,thisisgoingtoberememberedinthefutureassimilartosomeonewho'schain-smoking.Imean,thedamageisprobablyworsefromthisthanchain-smoking.

DaveAsprey: Holdingaphoneuptoyourheadisjustnotagoodidea.

Dr.Mercola: It'snotevenrecommendedbythemanufacturers.Everymanufacturesaysholditatleastaninchortwoaway,whichisfartooclosestill,butatleasteventheyadmitthat.Noonerecommendsyoushouldholdittoyourhead.

DaveAsprey: Unlessit'sinavirtualrealitygooglesyougluetoyourface.

Dr.Mercola: That'strue.

DaveAsprey: That'salittlescary.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Iwilladmit,IdohaveanOculusRift.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,sodoI.

DaveAsprey: Oh,doyou?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Yougetthe-

Dr.Mercola: Ihaven'tusedit.I'vehaditforayearandIstillhaven'tusedit.Ihaven'thadtofreetimetouseit.

DaveAsprey: Ittookmesixmonthstouseminebecauseoflackoffreetime.Elliot,fortunately,orderedthemachineandIdidplayitfourtimes.Itdoeshavetoomuchbluelight.Ididmanagetofitmytruedarkglassesunderneathit,asIwaslookingparticularlydumb,butplayinga3Dspacegamewhenyoucan'tseecertainbluecolors,thealienshandedmyasstome,butman,itwasfun.Dr.Mercola,yougottotryit.

Dr.Mercola: Oh,Iknow.I'veusedthegear,asensetheGalaxyGear,whichissimilar,butI-

DaveAsprey: It'snotwiredin.TheOculusRiftiscoolbecauseithasawire.

Dr.Mercola: Right.It'snotwired.Right.

DaveAsprey: You'restillgettingtheEMF,butit'snotawirelesstransmitterstucktoyourface,whichiswhat'sscarytome.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Yeah,that'sagoodpoint.

DaveAsprey: Let'stalk,becauseoneofthethingsthatgotmeallexcitedwhenIheardyou'regoingtocomeuphereiswegotonthephoneandyoutalkedaboutahackthatyou'vebeendoingwithhydrogen.CanyoutalkabouthydrogeninEMF?

Dr.Mercola: Icould,butthatwouldbemeaninglesswithoutexplainingtheproblemswithEMF.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Let'sgodowntheEMF.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,that'smoreimportant,Ithink,tounderstandthat.Idon'tknowthatwecandobothinthecontext.Wemightbeabletosqueezeitin,buttherereallyis

alotofbaselineinformationthat'ssocrucial,andI'mgoingtobepresentingthisatyourBulletproofConference.

DaveAsprey: Oh,that'sagoodpoint.Weshouldbringthatup.Dr.Mercolaisoneofourkeynotespeakers,October13ththrough15th,2017,attheBulletproofConference.We'regettingamini,minipreviewofalotofthestuffyou'regoingtotalkabout,butIwantedyoutopickthisupbecausesomanypeople,theskeptical,angrykindofpeoplewhosay,"Oh,thatcan'tbe,thereforeyou'reanidiot,"thatsortofanti-sciencepersonalattackstuff,there'salotofthataroundEMF's.Maybe20yearsago,youcouldmakeanargumentthatitwasonlyaboutheat.

Atthispoint,thereisoverwhelmingevidencethatthereareproblems.I'vegotoneoftheguyswho'sbeenworkingonthisforaverylongtimehereinthestudiotoshareinformationwithyouaboutthespecificEMFproblems.Let'sjustgothroughthedifferentthingsyou'veidentifiedasyou'vebeengoingthroughthis.

Dr.Mercola: Sure.Gladto,butbeforeIdothat,twothings.One,I'veneverhadthisproductbeforeandtheydidn'taskmetosaythis,butthisisgreatstuff.

DaveAsprey: Oh,theFatWater?

Dr.Mercola: FatWater,man,Ilovethisstuff.

DaveAsprey: Thankyou.

Dr.Mercola: It'sgood.I'veneverhadit,andtodaywasthefirstdayIhadit.Secondthingsisjustatouchbackontheketosis,IjustcamebackfromalowcarbconferenceinSouthernCalifornia,andalotofthebigleaderswerethereanditreallywasextraordinarytomethatthevastmajorityofalmostallofthemactuallybelievethatyoushouldbeinstrictketosisallthetime,whichisjust...We'resomeoftheonlypeopleoutthereteachingthat.Itneedstobecyclicalandpulsed,orthenewtermnowthatIlearnedistargeted,whichmeansthat-

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,Ithinkthat'smoreprecise.Youknow,it'salwaysinthelanguage.Cyclicalmeansyoucoulddoiteverythreedaysandnotactuallyfocusandtimeitwhenyou'restrengthtraining,whichiswhenyouwanttohavethatpeak,thatanabolicstimulus,sojustapointonthat.Let'sgobacktoEMF.I'veknownaboutEMFforalongtime.

Youtalkedaboutheating.Intheliterature,it'ssimplycalledthermal.Thevastmajorityoftheradiationwe'reexposedtoismicrowaveradiation,andyes,thatisyourmicrowaveoven.ItwasinterestinglydevelopedinWorldWarIIfromtheradars.

ThefirstmicrowaveovenwasamannerRadarange,thenithadmarketing,figuredthiswasn'tgood,peopledidn'tlikethat,andthentheymadeitthemicrowave.Justcutofftheradar,andsoitsoundedbetterandtheysoldalotmore.I'mgoingtotalkaboutthemechanism,andhopefullyafterIfinish,youwillimplementoneofthefirstrecommendations,whichisifyouhaveamicrowave,which,oddsare,99%ofthechance,ifyou'rewatchingthis,youhaveone,istotakeitoutandreplaceit.I'mnotsayingyoushouldn'theatyourfood.

There'satimeandaplacetoheatyourfood,noquestion,getasteamconvectionoven,anditwillworkjustasrapidlyandsafely,becausewhenyouturnthatmicrowaveovenon,therewillnotbeenoughthermalleakagetocausetoheatyourtissue.I'mconfidentofthat,butwhatitwilldoisexposeyoutoverydangerousmicrowaveradiationsatlevelsthatarefarinexcessofyourcellphone.Everytimeyouturniton,you'reblastingyouandyourfamily.Youdonotwanttodoit.Justremoveitfromyourenvironment.

DaveAsprey: Cuisinartmakesaconvectionsteamoventhat'sincrediblyaffordable.It'slikealittletoasteroven,it'llfitinthatsameslot,anditworksgreat.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,that'syourgoal.Ifyou'regoingtousesweetpotatoes,whichismyfavoritefortargetedketosis,Ilovesweetpotatoes,that'sthebestwaytodoitistosteamthem.

DaveAsprey: Yep.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,andyoucandoitsoeasyinasteamconvectionoven.Gettingbacktothemicrowaves,thiswasdeveloped,andthemilitaryknewaboutthis,andthere'sactuallybeenfourmajorreportsthatwerepublishedsince1950.Ithinkthefirstbigonewasin1971,theNavelResearchReport,andtherewasthreeotherssincethen,thedocumentingthisstuff,thatthereisdamage.They'vedonecorrelations,they'vedonestudies,andthereiscleardamagefromit,yettheindustrypersistinsayingthereisnothermaldamage.

Whattheheckdoesthatmean?BecauseI'veknownthatforalongtime.I'veknownitforover10,maybe15years,andI'vewrittenaboutit,butsomeofthefirstpapersthatwerewrittenonit[inaudible]it'snotthermal,that'snotathermalthing.They'resayingit'sthermal,it'snot,butwedon'tknowwhatitis.Nowweknowwhatitis,andthat's[crosstalk].

DaveAsprey: Whatthedamageis?Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Exactlywhatitis.Onceyouunderstandwhatitis,thebeautyofitisthatyoucanremediateit.Ifyoujustknowit'snotthermal,thenit'slikephilosophical.Whocares?

DaveAsprey: There'ssomethingelsetopointout.We'renotsayingyoushouldneveruseanywirelessdevicebecausetheymakeyourlifereallygood.

Dr.Mercola: Absolutely.Istillusethem,butthere'swaysthatyoucompensate.

DaveAsprey: Yes.

Dr.Mercola: Yes.WhenIusemywirelessdevice,it'sactuallyoverthere,andwemay,Iknowweprobablywon't,Ishould'vebroughtitherefirst,istheselfiestick.Ionlyuseaspeakerphone,notawiredheadset.IusespeakerphoneandIputitthreefeetawayfrommybody.

DaveAsprey: Nice.

Dr.Mercola: Eventhen,you'restillgettingsignificantradiation,butit's90%less.I'mnotguessing,I'vemeasuredit.It'salittlebithardtomeasure.Whatmakesthisradiationsodangerousisthatit'snotastaticandsteadyradiation,it'spulsed,which,biologically,magnifiesthedamagethatitdoeswhenyoupulseit.Whenyouhaveameter,it'sspikingallthetime,it'sneversteadylevel,butyoucangetarangeandaverageitinyourhead.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Weweretalking-

DaveAsprey: Weweretalking-

Dr.Mercola: Oh,thethermal.Iwantedto-

DaveAsprey: Thethermal,right.

Dr.Mercola: ...getthermal.Bythermal,thewayyourmicrowaveovenworks,thisisimportanttoknow,isthatitinteractswithchargedparticlesthatareinthefood,orthetissuethat'sbeingheatedup,andinourcase,it'sourbraintypically,anditmovesthemanditvibrates.Duringthisvibration,becauseyourmicrowavetypicallyisaboutafewgigahertz,whichisaboutthesamefrequencythatyourcellphoneoperatesat,sothat'swhythey'rebothmicrowaveradiation.Theenergyproducedbyyourcellphoneisalotless.Imean,ordersandmagnitudelessthanyourmicrowaveoven.

Now,it'scertainlyintheoven,buteventheleakageoutside.There'snoquestionthattheleakagefromamicrowaveovenandyourcellphonedoesnotcausethermaldamage,justliketheexpertssay,buttheywhattheyfail,theyfailmiserablyonsteroids,tostateisthattherearenotanybiologicaldamage.There'smassivebiologicaldamageandthisiswhereI'mgoingtoexplain.Thisisthekey.

Ididn'tfigurethisout,andI'mactuallyinterviewinghimtomorrow,thisguyshouldwintheNobelPrize,andIencourageyoutohavehimonyourpodcast,too.

DaveAsprey: Iwill.

Dr.Mercola: HisnameisDr.MartinPall,P-A-L-L.IfyoujusttypeinhisnameandEMFonYouTube,you'llseemanylectureshe'sgiven,andhe'llgotoitinfargreaterdetail,maybeevenexplainitalotbetterthanIam,butI'mgoingtotrytoconsolidateoneofmytalents,istoconvertittoregularlanguage.He'sanincredibleresearchscientist,buttherehavebeenmanystudieshundredsofstudiesthatshowwhenyouareexposedtoEMFradiation,youwillincreaseintracellularcalcium.Whyisthatimportant?

Firstofall,thecalciumisreallyrelativelylowinsideyourselfcomparedtooutside.Whenitcomesin,ithasaveryimportantbiologicalfunction.It'sanincrediblesignal,signor,sowhenyougetcalciuminthere,itsignalsdifferentthingsandyouneedthat.Youhavetohavethat.

That'snormal.That'shealthy.Youneedcalcium,butwhenyou'reexposedtoEMFandyougetalotmore,we'veknownthis.Whatwedidn'tknowwasthemechanismofhowthathappens.

DaveAsprey: Oh.

Dr.Mercola: Dr.Pallfigureditout.

DaveAsprey: ThatistheNobelPrizeterritory.

Dr.Mercola: I'mtellingyou,inmyview,Idon'tsaythislightly.Imean,Iknowalotofresearchers,there'snotmanyIwouldrecommendtogetaNobelPrize,Seyfriedmightbeoneofthem,too,whowereactuallyintheFatforFuelbook,wherewe'redonatingtheproceedsfromthatprojecttofundhisresearchforamilliondollarstocontinuetheeffort.Dr.Palldidn'tdotheinitialresearch,thebenchresearch,buthecompliedovertwo-dozenstudiesthatusedcalciumchannelblockersoninvitrostudiesandinsmallanimals,andthenmeasuredthedamagefromtheEMFexposure,anditwasvirtuallynothing.

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: Virtuallynothing.Hedidthisannouncementin2012,publishedin2013,Dave,that'sonlyfouryearsago.

DaveAsprey: Whathappened?

Dr.Mercola: Virtuallynooneknowsaboutthis.

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: Thiswasalandmarkpaperanditwonsomeawards,andstuff,andI'mhopinghegetsaNobelPrizeforitbecauseitreallyisfoundational.Itprovidesthefoundationalbasistoargueagainsttheexistingsafetystandards.That'swhythisissoimportant.I'mjusttryingtolaythebackground.

DaveAsprey: Thestudyfoundinanimals,yousaidnodamage?

Dr.Mercola: Virtuallynodamage.

DaveAsprey: From?

Dr.Mercola: FromexposuretoEMF's.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Mostlythatwasinvitro.There'sveryfewanimalstudiesandithasn'tbeendoneinhumans.Actually,whenIinterviewhimtomorrow,I'mgoingtocoordinatearesearchprotocoltoestablishwhatIbelievemaybeoneofthewaystomitigatetheanswers.

DaveAsprey: Okay.HowwasitthathewasfindingnodamagefromEMFinthesethings?

Dr.Mercola: Thecalciumchannelsblockedit.

DaveAsprey: Becauseheinflictsthecalciumchannels?

Dr.Mercola: Heblockedthecalciumchannels.

DaveAsprey: Thisispharmaceutical?

Dr.Mercola: Pharmaceutical,yes.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Calciumchannelblockersareheartdiseasemedications,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yes,andtheyworkbyblockingthesecalciumchannelsbecausethat'showtheywork.TheyhavethesideeffectofalsoloweringthedamagethatEMFdoes.

DaveAsprey: TheEMFsarecausingexcesscalcium.

Dr.Mercola: Yes.

DaveAsprey: YoutakeadrugthatpreventsexcesscalciumandthedamagefromtheEMFismitigated?

Dr.Mercola: Excessintracellular.

DaveAsprey: Intracellularcalcium.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Goodpoint.Yeah,ofcourse.

Dr.Mercola: Veryimportantbecausethat'soutside.Itdoesn'tdoanythingtothat,it'sjustinsidethecell.Whatdoesitdo?Itblocksthecalciumchannels,andmorespecifically,it'scalledtheVoltageGatedCalciumChannel,oraVGCC.Now,theseareembeddedinthecellmembranes,andtheyhaveabout20chargedparticleswithinthem,butbecausethey'reembeddedinthemembrane,there'sphysicalcharacteristicsin[inaudible00:19:28]andotherthings.Thisisthekeythatmakesthemnot10times,not20,not100,not1,000,not10,000,not100,000,butoversevenmilliontimesmoresensitivetoEMFthanthechargedparticlesinsideandoutthecellthattheyaretellingusthattheyarebasingthesafetystandardson.

DaveAsprey: EMFiscooking,basically,thethingembeddedinthecellmembrane?

Dr.Mercola: No,it'snotcookingit,it'sjust-

DaveAsprey: It'svibratingit.

Dr.Mercola: It'sactivatingit.

DaveAsprey: Turningiton,okay.

Dr.Mercola: Turningiton.I'lltalkaboutwhathappens,butthisisimportanttoknowbecauseyouassumewhatit'sdoing,I'lltellittoyou.I'mnothidingitfromyou,butthedownstreamcausesthedamage,butyouhavetounderstandthatthosevoltagegatedcalciumchannels,receptors,aresevenmilliontimesmoresensitivetoEMFthanthechargeparticlesinsideandoutsidethecell.

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: Thatmeansthesafetystandardsareoffbyafactorofsevenmillion.Sevenmillion.

DaveAsprey: Whatdoesthatmean?BecausearewegoingtoallunplugourWi-Fiforever?Gobacktosmokesignals?

Dr.Mercola: Well,no,No,no.OneofthethingsthatIloveaboutyouisyou'reatechguy.Yougetit.Youknowit.Onceweunderstandtheproblem,wecandeveloptechnologicalsolutions.

DaveAsprey: Thankyou.Justifyou'relisteningtothis,Iknowalotoftechentrepreneurs,alotofVC'sandallthis,listentoBulletproofRadio.Here'sthedeal.Thereisa

trillion-dollarbusinessherereplacingtheglobalwirelessinfrastructurewithbiologiccompatiblewirelessinfrastructures.

Notlikewecan'tdoit,butonceyouacknowledgetheproblem,there'salsobigtobacco-stylelawsuitsforalltheattorneyslistening,goafterthebigWi-Ficompanies.There'sbigmoneyeverywherehereandit'stime.Theevidenceishere

Dr.Mercola: Well,andit'sgoingtotakeawhileforthattransitionto[crosstalk].Inthemeantime,youneedbiologicalremediators,whichwe'reintheprocessofdeveloping.

DaveAsprey: Yes.

Dr.Mercola: Essentially,youdonotwanttotakeacalciumchannelblocker.

DaveAsprey: No,thosearebaddrugs.

Dr.Mercola: No.Iwouldn'trecommendit,butifyouhadtoandyouhadhighbloodpressure,oryouhadsomeotherclinicalindicationforit,itmightbeabetterchoicethanwhatsomebody...likeanaceinhibitor.

DaveAsprey: Isthereamicro-dosingprotocolforthose?Doyouwanttomaybetakealittlebit?

Dr.Mercola: Idon'tthinkso.No.Goodquestion,butIthinkitreallyisamorereflectionofblockingthosereceptors.Youhavetoeitherblockthemornotblockthem,orpartiallyblockthem.Themoreyoublock,let'ssayifyou'regoingtobe-

DaveAsprey: Okay.What'stheactionrulefromthis?Ifsomeone'slisteningtothis-

Dr.Mercola: Well,let'sforgettheaction.Ididn'tfinishthemechanism.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Gooddeal.

Dr.Mercola: Youneedtoknowthemechanism.It'sreallyimportantbecauseitactuallyexplainshow,ifyouunderstandthemechanism,howyoucanremediatethedamage.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: OncethisvoltagegatedcalciumreceptorisactivatedorstimulatedbytheEMF,inlessthanfiveseconds,amillioncalciumionswillbestreamingoutofthatreceptorthroughthatchanneleverysecond.

DaveAsprey: Puttingcalciumintothecell?

Dr.Mercola: Intothecell.

DaveAsprey: Right.

Dr.Mercola: Amillionionsasecond,justforone,andthere'sabunchofthem.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Okay?

DaveAsprey: Wefillthisstuff-

Dr.Mercola: Thatdoesn'thappeninaminute,fiveminutes,aweek,ithappensinlessthanfiveseconds.Boom!Ifyou'reexposedtosomethingamicrowaveradiationcell...Whatismicrowaveradiation?Ididn'texpandonthis.We'llgobacktomechanism.

DaveAsprey: Goodpoint.

Dr.Mercola: Yourmicrowaveoven,obviously,wetalkedabout,andyourcellphone,obviously.Yourcellphonetower,yourBluetoothheadset,anyBluetoothdevice,anyIOT,theInternetsofThings,yourbabymonitor.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,thoseshouldbe-

Dr.Mercola: YourWi-Firouter,probablythebiggestandmostperniciousthing.Thisisgoingtobecriminal.They'regoingtolookbackatthislikewelookatsmokingnow.Ababymonitor,themostsensitivetissue,brains,they'reexposingthemtothisWi-Fi.

DaveAsprey: Here'sthedeal,youcangetbabymonitorsthathaveaplugandethernet.Ididthatformybabies,anditwashardtofindthem.Youcanstillfindthem.

Dr.Mercola: Yes,they'rehardtofind.Lessthan1%-

DaveAsprey: Yeah,justdon'tbuyawirelessdevicetoputinyourkidsroom.It'snotokay.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Theinternetthingsiscoming.It'semerging.Youknowaboutthat.Abouttheyear2020,Ithink,iswhenwehaveatrillionIOTdevices.TheSmarthome,yoursmartthermostats.TrybuyingathermostatthatsaysnotaSmartthermostat.

They'rebecomingrarecommodities.Thatmeanseverytimeyouwalkbyyourthermostat,it'sgoingtobeactivatedanditstartssendingtheseWi-Fisignalstoyourrouter.NoWi-Fi.Youwanttostayawayfromthat.Whenwetalkaboutmicrowave-

DaveAsprey: YouhavenoWi-Fiatyourhouseatall?

Dr.Mercola: Ihavethepotentialtogoon,butno,Ihavetopluginaseparateroutertodothat.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Ihavealightswitch,sowhenIwantWi-Fi,Ifliptheswitch,IgetWi-Fi.WhenIdon'twantit,Iturnitoff.

Dr.Mercola: Iwanttomakeitharder.Iwanttoactuallyhavetotakeitout,plugittoanethernet,andplugintheadapter.

DaveAsprey: Youhavetoreceiveanelectricshockbeforeyoucanplugitintothewall.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Youdon'tfeelbadafteryou'rejustsaying,"Wow,howcomeIdidn'tknowthis?"Iwasignorantanddelusional,upuntilafewmonthsago.WhenIgavealectureatDr.Clinghousepresentation,andheremindedmeofhowdamndangerousthisstuffisandit'sreallyfoundational.Maybeevenmoreimportantthandiet.

DaveAsprey: Itishighlyimportant.OnethinginHeadstrong,Iwroteaboutthis,whereIkeepmycellphone,Idon'tkeepmycellphonebymyjunk.That'sacoreBulletproofrulebecausethere'salotofstuffinyourorgans.Menorwomen.

Dr.Mercola: I'lltellyouwhythatisinamoment.

DaveAsprey: Okay,cool.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: IfoundoutthatrightwhereIkeepmycellphonebymyrightfemur,myrightthigh,Ihave10%lessbonedensityfromjusthavingthecellphoneoninthere.That'sscarystuff,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yousharedthatinoneofourinterviews.ThankyouforthatbecausethatwasinmylearningphasewhenIwasactivated.NowI'mfullstrung.

DaveAsprey: You'rereally-

Dr.Mercola: I'mintothis.It'smynextbook,asIsaid.Ireallywanttounderstandthisisasbestcanbeknownandhelpcatalyzetheresearchtokeepussafe,becauseIperceiveitasoneofthebiggestthreatsthatwehave,healththreats.Healththreats.Let'sgetbacktothevoltagegatedcalciumchannel.Onceit'shitwiththeEMF,thatcalciumchannel'sgoingtofloodin,sowhatdoesitdo?

It'sgoingtostimulatethereleasefromatthe...well,intracellularlyofnitricoxide,andthenwhenyouhaveincreasedlevelsofnitricoxide,it'sgoingtocombinewithsuperoxide,whichisafreeradical.Nitricoxideisalsoafree

radical,manypeopledon'tknowthat.It'sabeneficialfreeradical,whichiswhyyouwanttobevery,verycarefultakinghighdosesofantioxidants.Yes,antioxidantsaregood,butifyoutaketoomany,youcanindiscriminatelysuppressbeneficialfreeradicalsthatyour-

DaveAsprey: That'sexactlyright.

Dr.Mercola: ...bodyneeds.Nitricoxidewouldbeagoodexampleofthat.Youneednitricoxide.Itcomesin,butitdoesn'tkeeponcominginbecausethevoltagegatedcalciumchannelskeep...soitgoestoextraordinaryhighlevels,orit'smanagedhigherthanit'ssupposedto.Combinedtothesuperoxide,anditformsareallydangerousfreenitrogenradical,orfree,notradical,freenitrogenspeciescalledperoxynitrate.

DaveAsprey: Yes,oneofthebig,badfreeradicals.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,that'sabadone.Thatspinsoffandcreateshydroxylfreeradicals,whichareevenmoredangerous.You'vegotallthisdamage,andthisdamage,whatwillitdo?ItwillcausesingleanddoublestrandedbreaksintheDNA,inthemitochondria,inthenucleus.Itdecimatescellmembranesandproteins.

Imean,it'sbasicallyacceleratingagingonsteroidswhenyouhaveEMF.

DaveAsprey: TheEMFtriggersthevoltagegatedcalcium?

Dr.Mercola: Itactivatesthem,right.

DaveAsprey: Itactivatesit,right.

Dr.Mercola: Itopensthemup.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Nowallthecalciumflows-

Dr.Mercola: [Calciumides]flythrough,yeah.

DaveAsprey: Theyflythroughintothecell,andthenwhathappensnextisyouget,yousaid-

Dr.Mercola: Increasednitricoxide.

DaveAsprey: ...increasednitricoxideinsidethecell.

Dr.Mercola: Insidethecell,yes.

DaveAsprey: Whereyoudon'twantit.

Dr.Mercola: Well,youneed-

DaveAsprey: Youwantalittlebit,butnotalot.

Dr.Mercola: Youwantalittlebit,notmassiveamounts.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Justlikeyouneedsomecalcium-

Dr.Mercola: Correct.

DaveAsprey: ...andnottoomuch,soyougettoomuchcalcium,toomuch-

Dr.Mercola: Nitricoxide.

DaveAsprey: ...nitricoxide,andthenthatgeneratesfreeradicalsinthemitochondria.

Dr.Mercola: Bycombiningwithsuperoxide.

DaveAsprey: Okay,toget-

Dr.Mercola: Peroxynitrate.

DaveAsprey: Whichiswell-known,ifyouGooglethatstuff,thatisoneoftheworstfreeradicalsyoucanhaveforaging.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,asishydroxyfreeradicals.

DaveAsprey: Right.

Dr.Mercola: Yougotthosetwogoingon.IfthisVGCC,thevoltagegatedcalciumchannelsaresoimportant,wherearethey?WhichtissueshavethehighestconcentrationofVGCC's?

DaveAsprey: Iwouldimaginethebrain,theeyes,andtheheart.

Dr.Mercola: Thebrain.Thebrain.It'snotbeendocumented,andI'llactuallyaskDr.PallwhenIinterviewhimtomorrow,butitwouldmakesense.

DaveAsprey: Theretina.

Dr.Mercola: Theretina.

DaveAsprey: It'sgottobetheretina.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Ihaven'tseenanyliteraturediscussingit,butI'llbetitis.Yeah,I'llbetyou'reright.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Specificallytheheart,becausetheheart,ofcourse,isoneofthemostmitochondrial,butit'snotjusttheheart,thecardiactissue,it'sactuallythenervetissue.

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: Whatdoesthismean?Whatisthepracticalimplicationsofthis?There'ssomanypracticaljustfromthisknowledge.Forgetnotevengoingtotheremediationcomponent.Thepracticalcomponentofthisisthatif...Howmanypeopledoyouknowthathavecardiacarrhythmias?

DaveAsprey: Therearealotofthemoutthere.

Dr.Mercola: AtrialFib,atrialflutter,PAC's,PBC's…lots,andthey'retakingverydangerousdrugs.Someofthemostdangerousdrugsweprescribeinmedicinearethesecardiacarrhythmics.Idon'trecommendthem,Irecommendremediatingmostlikelyoneofthemajorcauses,whichisexposuretoEMF.Noquestionaboutit,it'sgoingtotriggerit.

Ithinkwe'reseeing,maybenotanepidemic,butcertainlyalargeincreaseintheamountofpeoplewitharrhythmias.Ifyouhaveacardiacarrhythmia,please,oryouknowsomeoneyouloveorcareabout,pleaseletthemknowaboutthis.Havethemwatchthisvideosothattheycanhelptakecareofitandremediateagainstit.

DaveAsprey: Here'saquickthing,and-

Dr.Mercola: Treatthecauseandnotthesymptom.Thedrugisnottreatingthecause.

DaveAsprey: Igottosaythis.Dad,Iknowyou'rewatching.Mydad,foryears,kepthiscellphoneinhisshirtpockedrightabovehisheart,andhehadheartsurgery12yearsago,andI'mlike,"Takeitaway!Takeitaway!"Hefinallydidjustlastyear.

Dr.Mercola: Oneoftheworstthings-

DaveAsprey: Thankyou.

Dr.Mercola: Oneoftheworstthingsyoucando.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Don'tdothat.Ifyoucarryyourcellphoneinyourbraoryourchestpocket,ifthat'sallyoutookawayfromthisthing,don'tdothat.Keepitawayfromthevitalorgans.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.IliveinFloridaandIseealotofwomensometimesjustcarryingtheircellphone.IstopthemandItellthem.Theyusuallycarryitintheinside,ornottheoutside,soitstaysthere.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.It'srightupagainstthetissue.

Dr.Mercola: Idon'tknowifyouknowaboutbreastcancer,butthemostcommoncause,orthemostcommonlocation,becausetheydividethebreastintofourquadrants,themostcommonlocationistheupper,outerquadrant.Whenit'sbreastcancerfromacellphone[inaudible],it'stheupper,innerquadrantbecausethat'swherethey'reholdingthecellphone.

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.That'sexactlywherethey'reholdingit.Theotherplace,andyou'rerightaboutnotholdingthecellphonenearyourtesticlesbecausethetestishaveareallyhighconcentrationofboththosegatedcalciumchannels.Fertility,wejustwroteanarticleaboutthisrecently,thespermcounthasdroppedby50%.

DaveAsprey: Scary.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.There'salotofvariables.It'snotjustEMF,butIbelieveit'saverysignificantcontribution.

DaveAsprey: It'smeaningful.Whenyoustackitwiththingsthatarexenoestrogens-

Dr.Mercola: Oh,absolutely.

DaveAsprey: ...intheenvironmentfromplasticandyoustackitwiththingsthatcausemitochondrialdamage,manmadetoxinsandthingslikethat,thenyouhavesomeprettysubstantialjustbigproblems.

Dr.Mercola: Let'stalkaboutthisside,ifwetalkaboutcardiacrhythm,isthedecreaseinfertility,itprobablyaffectswomen'sfertility.Thestudy'salittlemoredifficultandchallengingtodointhat,butitprobablyisacontribution,although,ofcourse,yourwifewouldknowaboutthat.She'sbeenafertilityspecialist.Regardingthebrain,thesevoltagegatedcalciumchannelsalsoreleaseneurotransmittersandneuroendocrinehormones.

DaveAsprey: Kindofimportant.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Justabit.Wehaveamassiveincreaseinanxietyanddepressivedisorders,whichcouldclearlyberelatedtothis[exposure]myth.Clearly,there's,although,alotofothervariables,sleepingandnutrition,andallthethingsthatalldon'tknowaboutthis,buthardlyanyonethinksaboutEMFexposure.Thenwehavethisincreasingepidemic,whichisanabsoluteepidemic,noquestionaboutit,thatyouandIknowabout,isautism.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,that'sabigthing.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.EMFisnottheonlycause,Ibelievethatglyphosateisabigcontributortothat.Vaccinesdon'thelp,butIthinkifyoudon'thavetheglyphosateandEMF,they'renotgoingtobeastraumatic.

DaveAsprey: It'sjustlikeadeathbyathousandcuts.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Anythingthat’sgoingtocauseneuroinflammationwhereyourimmunesystemattacksitself,allofthesearedocumentedtostackon.Sayingit'sonecause,Ithink(Dr.)MarkHymanisfondofsayingifyouhaveathumbtackinthisthumbandathumbtackinthisthumb,pullingoutonethumbtackisn'tgoingtostopyoufromhurting.Yougottotakethembothout,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,yeah.Thiscaseisalotmorethantwothumbtacks.It'smany.It'smorelikecloserto1,000.Thosearesomeofthecommondiseasesthatarecomplications.Ofcourse,braintumors,wehaveTedKennedydiefromabraintumor,we'vegotnowJohnMcCainwhowillpassawayprobablynottoolongbecausetheydon'tknowhowtotreatcancer.Imean,even-

DaveAsprey: Someofusdo.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,buttheydon't.Theconventionalguysdon't.

DaveAsprey: Right.

Dr.Mercola: Youcan'ttreateveryoneifit'sbeen...especiallyifyouhadconventionaltherapy,itbecomesreallychallenging.Ifyoucatchitearlyandyoudothesestrategiesthatwerecommend,youcanalmostalwaysreverse.Nothings100%,butyoucangetprettyclose.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,alotbetterthanchemo.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,orradiation.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Sometimesyouneedthem,andI'mnotabsolutelyopposedtothose,butyoujustgottobereallycarefulintreatingbecauseyouwanttoalternateyourimmunesystemthat'sgoingtofightit.Ifyoustarttrashingyourimmunesystem,it'sgoingtobeaproblem.

DaveAsprey: We'retalkingaboutwhathappensperoxynitriteintocells.Okay.Nowwe'vegotallthesefreeradicalsandit'scausedallkindsoftrouble.Weknowthathavingacellphonenearthebrain,neartheeyes,neartheheart,thesearethebig,sensitivetissues.

Dr.Mercola: It'snotjustthecellphone,too,rememberit'syourmicrowaveoven-

DaveAsprey: TheWi-Firouter.

Dr.Mercola: ...whichismuchhigher.TheWi-Firouters.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Icantellyou,westillhaveamicrowaveovenanditworksreallygreatforstoringplates.Wedon'tcookanythinginit.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,welljustswapitouttosteamconvection.

DaveAsprey: Weoughtto.Thesteamconvection'sonthecounter.

Dr.Mercola: Oh,okay.That'sfine.

DaveAsprey: Someone'slisteningtothis,maybethey'refreakingout.They'regoingtopulltheirbabymonitorandreplaceitwithawiredone.They'rerealizing,"Well,myjobreliesonmycellphone,"whataresomeoftheotherthingsthatyoucandotoloweryourexposuretoEMF,eventhoughyourecognizeyourproblemandyougottogetridofit.

Dr.Mercola: Ithinkthat'sagoodquestionbecausethatisthefirststep.Thefirststepistoloweryourexposure.Now,we'reworkingonsomebiologicalimplementationsthatcanremediatethedamageverysuccessfully.I'mprettyconfidentthat...well,theresearchhasn'tbeendoneyet,butwehavesomeprettystrongclinicalevidencetosuggestthatitwill.Thekeythingislimityourexposure.IusedtoencouragepeopletoturntheirWi-Fioffatnight,andIstillthinkthat'sagoodstrategy,butIthinkit'sinadequate.It's[crosstalk].

DaveAsprey: It'snotenough.Itjusthelps.

Dr.Mercola: It'snotenough.Ithelps,yeah.Whyturnitoffatnight?Eighthoursandexposeyourselfto16hours,itdoesn'tmakesense.Ifyouhityourhandwithahammerfor24hours,isbad,it'slessbadifyouhititfor16,butit'sstillbestifyoustopit.

DaveAsprey: Icantellyouwhenwehadourhouseremediatedfromold,andbeforewemovedin,Ihadethernetputineverysingleroomanditcostabout$150perethernetdrop.Allright,andsothere'sa24-channelswitchsomewhereinthehousewherealltheethernetcomestogetherandthat'swhereallthesignalcomesin.Icangetethernetinanyroom.ThatmeansIhavetohavethedisciplinetoplugthedeviceintothewall,andthingslikethat.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,it'sahassle,noquestion,butit'sworththebenefit.

DaveAsprey: Itis.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.IthinkI'vegota48port.

DaveAsprey: Nice.

Dr.Mercola: I'vegotthemallover.WhenImovedin,Ididthesamestrategy.Itwasn'tanewhouse,soIjusthadthemre-retrofit.Youcanconvertalotoftheexistingwires,likeifyouhavealottelephonecircuits,youcanconvertthoseovertoethernetcables,asyouwouldwellknow.

DaveAsprey: Onewarning,though.There'ssomethingcalledpower,orsorry,ethernetoverpower.

Dr.Mercola: Yes,EOP.

DaveAsprey: Youtakeyourpowerlinesandusethemtotransmitethernet.

Dr.Mercola: Yes.

DaveAsprey: Thatisnotadvisablebecauseit'sgoingtoincreasethevariabilityinyourpowerlines.Itactually-

Dr.Mercola: What,doesitcausedirtyelectricity?

DaveAsprey: Yeah,itcausesdirtyelectricity.

Dr.Mercola: Oh,okay.

DaveAsprey: Idon'tknowifthat'sagoodstrategy.

Dr.Mercola: Becausethatisonestrategythatispossiblethatyouwanttoavoidtheexpense,isyougotthese,Iguess,devicesthatyouwouldwanttoplugitintotherouter,thenoneplugintowhereyouwouldtakeanethernet.

DaveAsprey: [crosstalk].Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: That'sethernetoverpower.

DaveAsprey: It'sveryconvenientandit'sbetterthanusingWi-Fi,butitwillinducethepower-

Dr.Mercola: Thedirtyelectricity.

DaveAsprey: ...powerinsideyourwallstobasicallyfluctuatealot,whichcreatesitsownmagneticsignalthatalsohasaneffectonyourselves.

Dr.Mercola: Whichyoucanremediatepartiallywithfilters,capacitors.

DaveAsprey: I'mconcernedthefiltersmaytakethesignaloutofthewire,though.I'mnotsure.I'venevertestedit.

Dr.Mercola: That'sagoodquestion.Goodpoint.Okay.Anyway.Thankyou.Yeah,thankyouforbringingthattomyattentionbecauseIthoughtthatmight'vebeenalessexpensivestrategyforpeople,but-

DaveAsprey: It'sbetterthanWi-Fi,butnotasgoodasjustrunningagoodold-fashionedethernetcable.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.It'shardtobeatthewire,andIdoit.ImostlyhavetoplugmynotebookinthatItravelaroundmyhousewith,orduringmydifferentstrategies,doingthestationslikeseven,eighttimesaday,butit'sokay.Idon'tmindit.Mywifi'soff.Ithasnotbeenonforamonth,overamonth.

DaveAsprey: That'simpressive.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.What'snotimpressiveisthatIonlyfiguredthisoutrecently.It'slikeboom!I'monamissiontohavepeoplenotmakethemistakethatIdidthinkingthatyouaresomehowbiologicallyimmunetothis,thatjustbecauseyouthinkyou'resmartoryouknowsomeonethatyou'renotgoingto...oryouthinkyoueathealthyandyou'renotexposedtotoxins,thatyourbiologycansomehownotbeimpactedbythis,andIwanttotellyouthatisadelusion.Anabsolutedelusion.Youaredamagingyourself.

Thereisnowayarounditunlessyou'reimmediatewithsomeofthisstrategywe'regoingtotalkabout,andyoumightbedoingthem,andevennotknowingitbecauseifyoudon'tknowthemechanism,youcan'tremediate.

DaveAsprey: OneofthethingsIdid,I'mgoingtosoundlikeatinfoilhat-wearingguy.I'vebeenaccusedofthatbefore,itdoesn'treallyoffendme.IlivedinaneighborhoodwithlotsofWi-FiroutersandIwasworkingonrecoveringfromtoxicmold.Ihadseriousbrainfog.

Iwasdoingozonetherapythatreallymadeadifferenceforme,butIbuiltmyhomeofficeinsideaFaradaycageinsidethegarage.Iusedaluminumsheeting,itwaspartofthestructureforit.

Dr.Mercola: Didyoumeasureitandsoitwentdowntozero?

DaveAsprey: Itwentdowntonearzero.

Dr.Mercola: Okay.Perfect.

DaveAsprey: Itwasn'talltheway.Therewasawindowbutoverall,you[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Whatdidyouuse?

DaveAsprey: Iusedaluminumbacksoffoilsheetingwithacopperconnectingallthepiecestogetherandstainlesssteeltapeoverthat.

Dr.Mercola: Excellent.

DaveAsprey: Cellphonedidn'tworkinside,whichisaprettygoodsign.

Dr.Mercola: IsleepinaFaradaycage.

DaveAsprey: That'swhereIwasgoingtogowiththisnext.IfIwaslivinginahighrise,whereyou'rejustsurroundedbyyour...you'resleepingontopofyourneighborsrouter,youhavenocontroloverthat,IwouldhaveaFaradaycage,absolutely.

Dr.Mercola: Anddon'tmakethemistakeofdoingapartialFaradaycage,whichmeansifyou'reinalargeapartmentbuilding,ifyou'renotonthefirstfloor,youhavetheradiationcomingupthroughyourbed,soyou'vegottodothefloor.Ifyouliveinahighrise,you'vegottobeawarethatthesignalsarecomingupfrombelowyou,soyouhavetoaddanadditionallayeroffabric.Whatisthisfabric?It'snotthealuminumfoil,thecopperthatDavewastalkingabout,butit'susuallycopperthreads.

We'reactuallyintheprocessofseekingtomanufacturesomeorganiccottoncanopies,buttheyalsohavesilverandcopperthreadsinthere,whichactuallyformsthismetalliccagearoundyou,anddependingonthedensityofthemetalfibersdetermineshoweffectivelyit'sgoingtoremediateagainstthat.

DaveAsprey: Thisisreallyimportantbecauseifyouimagineaparabolicdish,liketheoldsatellitedishesthatyou'dsee,theyreceivesomethingthatbouncesoffitandthenreflectstoacentralpoint.Ifyou'resleepinginahalfofaFaradaycageandthere'sasignalcomingupfromunderneathyou,itcanconcentratethesignalrightonyou.

Dr.Mercola: Goodpoint.

DaveAsprey: Thatactuallyreallymatters.Here'sthedeal,ifyousleepinahighrisewithalltheamazingconveniencesofbig-citylifeandthere's75Wi-Fisignalswithinrangeofwhereyousleep,youshouldexpecttosleeplikecrap.That'swhathappens,unfortunately.Dr.Mercola,youandI'vewrittenalotaboutsleephackingandimprovingsleepquality.EMFisaknowncontributortolowsleepquality.

You'regoingtohavetodothis.You'regoingtohavetohavethemysterious,sexymid-summernights.Ashroudaroundyourbed.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Nomosquitoes,iftheygetin.

DaveAsprey: Fairpoint.ThoseNewYorkCitymosquitoesinthehighrises.

Dr.Mercola: Iftheyevergetin,orfliesorwhatever.

DaveAsprey: That'safairpoint.Itisactuallyhowwearegoingtolive,atleastthoseofuswholivethelongestandbestandarethestrongest,andcanafforditandhavetheknowledgetodoit.It'sjusthowitis.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.They'renotinexpensive.

DaveAsprey: No.

Dr.Mercola: Iputonein-

DaveAsprey: They'requiteexpensive.

Dr.Mercola: IliveinthefirstfloorandIstillputoneundermybed,orunderthemattresssothatthere'snothingcominguptome.Theyareprobably$1500to$2000perbed.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Asmuchassomeexpensivemattresses.

DaveAsprey: I'veneverthoughtaboutthis.MaybeI'llmakeone.Idon'tthinkIwill.We'redoingenoughwithBigFoodandwiththe[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Ourtakeonitwillbeorganiccotton,whichisnotascriticalbecauseyou'renottouchingit,butstill.

DaveAsprey: CanyoumakeitlikeasleepingbagsowhenItravelI'minahotelroom?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,oncewegetitsetup,I'dbegladtodothatforyou.Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Imean,youshouldsellthemforotherpeople,too.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,Ishoulddoitformyself.That'sagoodidea.

DaveAsprey: Iwouldtravelinasleepingbagbecause-

Dr.Mercola: Youheardithere,folks.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Iwouldpayalotforthat.Bytheway,alltheroadwarriorswholistentothis,andthere'sathousandofthem,Ithinkmostofuswhowanttofeelreallygood,IsleeponagroundingmatwhenItravel.

Dr.Mercola: WhatamIdoingnow?We'vegotmydevice.IuseaTES,TES-593,whichisamicrowavemeter.IbringitwithmewhenItravelbecauseIdon'thavethis-

DaveAsprey: Isthatuphere?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,itis.

DaveAsprey: Canyougrabthatblackbox[crosstalk]?

Dr.Mercola: It'sablackbox.

DaveAsprey: TES-593.Youusethisbeforeyougotosleepinahotelroom.Whatdoesitdo?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.ItwilltellmewhereI'mgoingtosleep.Thankyou,Elliot.We'regoingtotakethisoutandturniton.Itlookslikeathere'salotofdifferentdevices.Someofthemareprettyexpensive,likeafewthousanddollars.Thisoneretailsfor$500,butifyoujustgotoGoogleShopping,orevenAmazon,youcanfinditfor-

DaveAsprey: Holdituplikethat.

Dr.Mercola: ...canfinditfor$350.Alotofpeoplemakethemistake,ImeanTrifield'saverypopular,butfolks,pleaseunderstand,Trifieldmetersonlymeasuremagnetic,andifyouhaveahighmagneticexposure,asyoudowithfromaninverterforseveral[inaudible]solarpanels,thatFaradaycagewillnotremediateagainstitbecausemagneticgoesrightthroughit.

DaveAsprey: Right.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Thisisupnowandwearegoingtogetalivereadinginyourstudio.

DaveAsprey: WehaveWi-Fiturnedon,too.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,thisdevicehasmanydifferentunits.Youhavetopressthisone,two,three,okay,tothepointwhereitisreallyprettyhigh.Youwanttogototheunitsofmicrowattspersquarecentimeter,whichisthestandardmeasurementofenergyintheUnitedStates,andalsoit'sactuallythelowest.

DaveAsprey: What'sthatonepoint?

Dr.Mercola: Well,you'rebetweenoneandtwo,whichisprettyhigh.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,that'sbecausethewifi'srightoverthere.

Dr.Mercola: UsuallyIsleep,it'sa.003.Yeah,butthat'sokay.

DaveAsprey: Notreally.Iworkhere.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,butyougottofixthis,Dave.

DaveAsprey: No,Iknowwhatitis.

Dr.Mercola: Iwouldn'texposemyselftothatnormally.

DaveAsprey: There'saswitchthatturnsthatoff,wejustdon'thavetheswitchoffrightnow.

Dr.Mercola: WhenIgotoahotelroom,Iwillmeasurewhichsideofthebed.AsI'vejustbeentravelingandsleptintwohotelrooms,ortwohotelsdifferenthotelsinthelastfewdays,andtherewasatenfolddifferencebetweenonesideofthebedthantheother.

DaveAsprey: Wow.Youpickedthesideofthebed-

Dr.Mercola: Ipickedasideofthebedthathadtheleastamountbecauseyoudon'tknowwherethey'rehidingthesethings.Theotherthing,ifyou'reseriousaboutthis,youreallyneedameter,andyoucangiveittoyourfriends.There'sthreephysiciansthatIknow,twootherphysiciansandmyselfwhousethese.Everysingleoneofusfoundhiddensourcesofradiation.

TheothersourcesIneglectedtomentionwere,earlier,yourwirelessmouse,yourwirelesskeyboard,anythingthat'swireless,includingthisring.TheOURARing,whichyouandIarebothfansof.IfyouhaveanOURARing,Iknowmanyofyoudo,ithastobeinairplanemode.Theproblem,andit'saseriousproblem,andifyoucouldpleasewritethecompany,weneedasmuchpressureonthemaspossibletofixthebugbecausethiswillspontaneouslycomeoutofairplanemodeonaregularbasis,multipletimesduringtheday.It'sunacceptablebecauseitisasignificantexposure.

Youwouldn'tknowthatunlessyoumeasureit,andunfortunately,mostofyouliveinenvironmentswheretheEMFissohighyoucan'tmeasurebecausethebackgroundissohigh.YouhavetohavealowEMFenvironmenttomeasureit.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.It'soneofthosethingsifyou'regettingamonitoringandyou'renotbroadcasting,there'salmostnoEMFfromthething,whichiswhyIlikethering,butifitaccidentallyturnsitselfonandthenstartsbroadcastingandyoudon'tknowit,nowyou'resittingtherewhere-

Dr.Mercola: It'sasignificantsignal.Admittedlyit'syourhand,butifyousleepwithyourhandonyourchest,it'saproblem.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Okay.Whatelsecouldpeopledoifthey'realittleconcernedaboutthisnow?Isthereanynutritionalintervention?Youcantellthishelpswithalmosteverything,butit's-

Dr.Mercola: Yes,itdoes.

DaveAsprey: ...notgoingtoprotectyoufromEMFpermanently.

Dr.Mercola: No.Whatyouwanttodoisimproveyourantioxidants.Notjustanyantioxidants.

DaveAsprey: Fairpoint,right?

Dr.Mercola: No.Ideally,youwanttouseone.Twowaystodoit.Thefirst,andmostimportant,wediscussed.Lowertheexposure,butthere'sgoingtobeexposurethatyoujusthavenocontrolover,sowhatdoyoudothen?

Thecoolwaytodo,ortheinterestingapproach,andthere'sreallynostudiesdoneonthisyet,we'reintheprocessofestablishingthemanddevelopingtheparameters,talkingtoDr.Pallwho'sdonealotofthisresearchtofindoutthebestideastrategytodocumentthis,theseremediationefforts.I'mhopingwithinayearwe'llhaveresultsofthat.Itappearsthatthere'stworeallyimpressivestrategiesthatyoucanuse.Oneissimplemagnesium.

DaveAsprey: Takemoremagnesium,youhearditherefirst.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Weallknowthat80%ofus,thepopulation,maybeisindeficient,sothat'snotabadideafrom[inaudible].

DaveAsprey: Ido800milligramsadaynow.

Dr.Mercola: Ithinkyou'regoingtowanttoincreaseitclosertotwograms.

DaveAsprey: Withoutcrappingmyself?Istherea[crosstalk]forthat?

Dr.Mercola: Oh,yeah,there'sawaythroughthat.Wecantalkaboutthat,butthere'salotofdifferentstrategies.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Let'stalkaboutthat.Disasterpreventionmagnesium.Badidea.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Itdependsonthetypeofmagnesium.We'redoingsomeresearchinthisnow,somenovelformsofmagnesiumthatpeoplemaynotbefamiliarwith.

DaveAsprey: Itakeabigmixoftypes,yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,youdefinitelyneedavarietyoftypes.Youdon'twanttohaveloosestoolsbecausethat'sgoingtobecounterproductivetoo,butifyou'renothavingloosestools,Iwouldjustcontinuetoincrease.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Iamconfident800'stoolow.It'sprobablyclosertotwograms.

DaveAsprey: Formostpeople,400isconsideredprettyhefty,andI'mdoingtwicethat.

Dr.Mercola: Oh,no,no.Youareunder-dosing.

DaveAsprey: Allright.

Dr.Mercola: It'sveryserious.

DaveAsprey: [Crosstalk]somemore.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Youaregoingtoseeadifference.

DaveAsprey: Wow.

Dr.Mercola: EspeciallytheotherstrategyI'mgoingtotalkaboutnow,whenyoutravel,you'regoingtosendmeanemailsaying,"Ican'tbelievethedifference."

DaveAsprey: Allright.Thisiscool.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Clearlymagnesium,andwe'relookingatsomethingcalledmagnesiumbicarbonate,whichyoucan'tbuy,butyouhavetocreateinsomeexoticstrategies,ormaybedoitthroughanotherprocess.We'reintheprocessofidentifyinggrass,generallyrecognizedassafesupplementsthatcanbeusedandcanbepurchasedwithouthavingtodosomeofthesecrazybiohacks.

DaveAsprey: You'regoingtotalkaboutthoseattheBulletproofConference?Howtopotentiallydothatathomeinthemeantime?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Forthatcrowd?

Dr.Mercola: Okay,Iwill,Iwill.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Ijustfoundoutaboutthistwodaysago.

DaveAsprey: Okay.I'mfamiliarthisisstuff,wetalkedaboutoffcamera,butyeah,Iwasfamiliarwiththemixingthethingstogether.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Iwasn'tawareofthat,butIthinkthat'sprobablythemost,andinfact,inthelimitedresearchI'vereadinthelastfewdays,suggeststhatit'slikethefountainofyouth.Thisisstuffaboutmagnesiumbicarbonateisjustbeyondextraordinary.Ihadneverbeenexposedtoitbefore.

DaveAsprey: Ihadreadthisstuffacoupleofyearsagoanddiditonce,butIcouldn'tfindagoodsourceforoneofthethings.I'mlike,"There'ssomanyhacks,buttheresearchiscompelling."Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Especiallywhenyouunderstandit'sgoingtohelpmitigatetheEMFdamage.

DaveAsprey: Thisisabigthing.Ididn'tknowthat.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,thatishuge.

DaveAsprey: Ifyou'relistening-

Dr.Mercola: Idon'twanttogointopersonaldetails,butIconfirmeditmyselfovertheweekendthatitworks,andfromabiologicalperspective.ItwasalittleminitestthatIdidunexpectedly,butatleastinoneofthetissues.

DaveAsprey: Forwhenwetalkaboutbicarbonate,youknowaboutbakingsoda,whichissodiumbicarbonateandit'sastrongalkali,butthereareotherthings.There'spotassiumbicarbonate,whichisanotherthingthatyoumighttakesomeof,andsomethingthatIactuallydouse,andthenmagnesiumbicarbonate,whichisveryhardtogetasasupplementbecauseitsucks-

Dr.Mercola: Youcan'tbuyit.

DaveAsprey: It'ssuckswaterinandchangesthings,soit'snotstable.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,youcannotbuyit.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: It'snotstable,youcannotbuyit.Youhavetocreateityourself,andthere'sseveraldifferentwaystodoit.I'llbetalkingaboutitattheBulletproofConference,whichisthereasonwhyyouneedtobethere!Iamsoexcited.IhaveneverbeentotheBulletproofConference,butIamjustrampedup.Icannotwaittogo.

DaveAsprey: It'sreallycooltohaveseenbiohackingemergingasafieldbecauseyouweredoingitbeforeithadthisnameandthetitle.Whatareallthethingsyoucando,andreallyoneofthepioneersinthefield,andsotobeabletopulltogetheragroupofpeoplefromdifferentdisciplinestotalkaboutthisstuff,soIthinkyou'lldefinitelyturnssomeheadswithwhatyouhavetosaytherebecauseI'mprettyexcited.Thisisoneofthosebigthings.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Now,theotherbigthingthatwe'llexplainmoreindepthattheconference,Davehasbeengraciousenoughtogivemetwosegments,soI'llhaveclosetotwohoursthere,whichisgreat,ismolecularhydrogen.

DaveAsprey: Yes.

Dr.Mercola: Davehasknewaboutthisforawhile.Infact,hemettheleaderinthefield,atleastintheUnitedStates,whichisTylerLaBaron,ayoungster,29-years-old,whocandeadlift450poundsandruna220marathon.Yes,Ididnotmistake,saythatincorrectly,220.

DaveAsprey: Infact,itwasTyler...IfyousubscribetotheDaveAspreyBiohackingBlogseveryquarter,Iputtogetherabunchofneatstuffyouhaven'theardof,Iputitinaboxandshipittoyou.Youcangotobiohacked.com.That'sbioH-A-C-K-E-Ddotcom.Youcansubscribe.

Youwould'vereceivedsomeofthesehydrogentablets,Ithinktwoboxesago,becausethecutting-edgestuff,Ialwaysputitinthereandyougetit.Youdon'tknowwhatyou'regoingtoget,butit'sreallycool.

Dr.Mercola: Ithelpsifyouknowwhatitissoyouknowhowtouseit.

DaveAsprey: No,Itellpeoplehowtouseit,buttheideaisIcurateallthegoodstuff,andsopeoplewhoaresuperintoBulletproof,they-

Dr.Mercola: Goodidea.

DaveAsprey: Essentially,theysaveacouplehundreddollars.Isendthem$200-300worthofstufffor$100bucks,andIpickoutthegoodstuff.That'sBiohacked.com.

Dr.Mercola: Thatsoundslikeagreatdeal.I'mgoingtohavetogetonthatlist.

DaveAsprey: It'salotofwork,tobehonest,butI'llsendyouthebox,forsure.Curatedinthebox,butit'sfunbecauseallthetoysIgive-

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,yeah.That'sgreat.That'sagreatthing.

DaveAsprey: There'sprobably2,000listeningwhoknowaboutthis.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Oratleastbeenexposedto,butifyouhaven't,TylerLaBaron,L-A-B-A-R-O-N,justtypeinthatandmolecularhydrogen.Hehashisownwebsite,molecularhydrogenfoundation.org,whichisacrazylongname.

DaveAsprey: 800studiesonhiswebsiteabouthydrogen.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,it'sreallygood.JusttypeitinYouTubesoyoucanlistentosomeofthislectures.That'swhereyou'llgetitbecausehe'sgotmoretimethanIdorighthere.Essentially,itisthesummary,thecliffnoteversionisthatit'smolecularhydrogen,whichistwoatomsofhydrogen,thesmallestmoleculeintheuniversethatcandefuseacrossanycellmembrane,hasnopolarity,isaneutralmoleculeandgetsinthereinstantly,isaselective,it'sprobablythebestantioxidantknowntoman,it'saselectiveantioxidantthatdoes...Wetalkedaboutthisearlier,there'sabaselinelevelofnormalvaluableimportantbiologicalfreeradicals,andifwelowerthat,weareheadingfortrouble.

DaveAsprey: I'msorry.There'ssomesupplementsyoucantakethatturnofffreeradicalproductioninthecells,and-

Dr.Mercola: Dangerous.

DaveAsprey: Oh,myGod.Youtakethosefortwodaysandyouwanttodie.Youcan'tpickyourarmup.It'shorrible.

Dr.Mercola: Youneedfreeradicals.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,they'reimportant.

Dr.Mercola: Whatyoudon'tneedisexcessivefreeradicalsthat-

DaveAsprey: Orthewrongones.

Dr.Mercola: Orthewrongones.Thisispreciselywhatmolecularhydrogendoes,andthey'vedonethestudies.I'llshowyoutheslidewhenI'mthere.Thebaselinefreeradicalsishereandahydrogenatthesamelevel,andthentheyexposeagroupofanimalstohighdoseionizingradiation-

DaveAsprey: Badstuff.

Dr.Mercola: ...whichcan...Thisisarealinterestingfact,theionizingradiationhasenoughenergybecauseitisshorterwaves.Byitself,theenergyinthosewaveswillbreakthe[inaudible]bondsinDNA.Causesingle[dopusgender]breaks.Thisisanotwell-knownfact,isthatthatisnotwhatcausesthemajorityoftheDNAbreakage.Whatcausesit?

DaveAsprey: Peroxynitrite.

Dr.Mercola: Yes.Pre-radicaldamage.Oxidativestress.Thatcausesit.Actually,inmostinstances,nowifyougetanuclearreactionexposurelikeHiroshimaorsomething,thenyou'regoingtobedead,yes.That'sdeadly,butinmostcases,themicrowaveradiationexposureismoredangerousthanX-rays.

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: MoredangerousthanX-rays.

DaveAsprey: Becauseoftheoxidativestress,it-

Dr.Mercola: Yes.

DaveAsprey: ...creates[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: It'stheoxidativestress.

DaveAsprey: Becausethe[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: LetmejustfinishthisoneslideIwastryingtoillustrate,thatI'llbeshowingattheconference,istheyhaveacertainlevel,thelevelofreactiveaustencespeciesgoesmuchhigher,maybesixtimeshigher,andthenwhenyougivehydrogen,itcomesdownnotaslowasbaselinelevels,butitmitigates80%ofthedamage.Whattheheck?What'sthetakehomeonthis?Veryvaluableifyouhappentoflyinairplanesbecauseionizingradiationisalsogammarays,whichyou'regoingtohitat35,000feet,andIhavetakenaGeigercounterup,andit'sliketentimeshigherat35,000thanitisatgroundlevel.

DaveAsprey: Especiallyduringtheday.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Ididn'tseeadifference.

DaveAsprey: Oh,atnightyoudon'tseeadifference?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Ididn'tseeadifference.

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: Ididnot.That'swhatDavidWolfhadsaid,andIsaid,"I'mgoingtotestit,"anditdidn'twasthesame.

DaveAsprey: Surprising.Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Histheoryisflawed.Itwasnottrue,butit'sstillbad.Ithinkthisiswhatyou'regoingtolovebecauseyoudidn'tknowthis,you'regoingtotrythishydrogenout,it'sgoingtomake-

DaveAsprey: Yeah,I'venevertrieditinmid-flight.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Notmid-flight.

DaveAsprey: Oh,before?

Dr.Mercola: Whenyoutakehydrogen,youcouldactuallybreatheitalldaylong.Notagoodidea.Yourbodymakeshydrogengas,about10litersaday,andsoahealthybaseline,that'soneofthereasonswhyyourmicrobiomeissohealthybecauseit'smakinghydrogengas.Whenyouhaveasteadystateofexposure,youdon'tgettheotherbenefits,soyouwanttopulseitjustlikewepulseitandgenesis.

DaveAsprey: Right.

Dr.Mercola: Pulsing,pulsing,pulsing.That'swhereyougetthebenefit.ThestrategyIusenowandusedonmylastfewflights,andit'sworkedmarvelously,I'vehadnosideeffectsfromtravelandIflewacrossthecountry.Itwasjustcrazy.Literallyover10hoursofflyingintheair.

There'sanumberofdifferentwaystogetit,butthemostpracticalwayformostpeopleisgoingtobethehydrogentablets.Wedon'tsellthem.Wewillinthefuture.We'regoingtotrytohavethebestoneoutthereinthemarket.

Everything.It'sgoingtobegrassandthehighestconcentrationpartpermillion,andnanobubbles,andallthisstuffthatwe'regoingtobedoing,butwedon'thaveitnow.Probablywon'thaveitforayear,maybehopefullyless.Assoonasyougoupintheair,well,no,maybeat5,000feet,beforethesignalcomesonthatyourwifi'son,youcanturnyourWi-Fionnow,oryou-

DaveAsprey: Onanairplane.That'sright.

Dr.Mercola: Youcangetup,youknow?That's10,000feet.Eventhattimeisprobablyokaytohavealongflight.Youputthetabletinalittlebottleofwater.

DaveAsprey: Thisislikeahydrogentabletyoucanbuy,right?

Dr.Mercola: Right.

DaveAsprey: Youdon'tsellthem,Idon'tsellthem,sowe'rejusttalkingaboutstuffyoucangetonline,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Youcan'tgettheminproblemsorclaimshere.

DaveAsprey: Nocommercialrelationshipforeitheroneofus.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Wewilldoitinthefuture,butwe'renotdoingitnow.IthinkthisisthemostimportantsupplementItake,Ireallydo.Itakeitbeforeozone,too.Idoozoneeveryday.

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Ibreathehydrogengasfor90minuteswhenIreturnfromaflight.

Dr.Mercola: No.Ithinkyouneedtodoitbefore,butyouneedtodoitduringtheflight,soletmefinishthis.

DaveAsprey: Duringtheflights.Cool,yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Youwanttoputitinalittlebottle,preferablywithacap,sobecauseit'shydrogengas,it'sgoingtoblowout,soyouputitinthere,notcoldwaterbecauseit'llslowdownthereactiontime,andyouputitinandletthetabletdissolvecompletely,andthenyouopenthecapanddrinkitasquicklyasyoucanwithoutswallowingitthewrongway.

DaveAsprey: Right,right.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,becauseyouwantthehydrogengastogointoyourbody,anditwillworkforabouttwohours.It'llliterallyreducethedamagefromthegammaraysbyabout80%.Ifyou'reaflightattendantorapilot,thisisabsolutelyimperative.Isayabouttwohours,soifyougetatwohourflightora230,it'sfine,onetabletshouldwork,butifyougotanythinglonger,Iwouldlookatdoingtwotabletsandputonerightinthemiddleoftheflight.

DaveAsprey: Cool.I'mgoingtobeplayingaroundwiththis.It'sfunny,IsentabottleoftabletsoutintheBiohackingbox.

Dr.Mercola: Youguyscanplay,too.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Unlessyouusedthemalready.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,ifyougotoneofthose,nowyouknow.Ineverthoughtusingthemduringaflight.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,that'sprobablyoneofthemostimportant-

DaveAsprey: It'sagoodhack.

Dr.Mercola: Evenanothergoodoneiswhenyouhackitbeforeandafterexercise.Exercisegeneratesreactiveoxidantsandspecies,right?Again,it'saselectiveantioxidant.Itwon'tstopanyofthespeciesthataregoingtopromoteanabolicbenefitsoftheexercise,it'lljuststopthedangerousones.It'saselectiveantioxidant.

Thisisnew.Thefirststuff,whydon'tyouknowaboutthis?Becausethefirstmajorstudythatwaspublishedwasin2007,10yearsago,almostalltheliteratureisinJapanese.Tylerwenttostudyitinthe[GoyUniversity00:57:17]andlearnedallthisstufffromtheexperts,that'swhyhe'saworld-classexpertintheUS.That'swhyyoudon'tknowaboutit.It'sbrandnew.

DaveAsprey: Yep.YoucanbuyhydrogenwatermachinesalloverJapannow,andyoubarelyseethemhere.

Dr.Mercola: Idon'trecommendhydrogenwater.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,Iknow,butit's[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Becauseit'snotthepulse,youneedthepulse.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,butI'mjustsaying-

Dr.Mercola: They'reswitching.They'reswitchingfromthattohavingthehighdosejustintermittently.

DaveAsprey: I'mafanofthat.Iwouldsaygetsomehydrogenwhenyoucangetsomehydrogen.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Highdoses,ifyoucan.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.It'sbetterifyoucangetthehighdose,butwhatIwasgoingtosaythereisifyou'reliftingsomething,right,whathappensisyougetthepositivefreeradicalsthatarebeneficial,that,say,buildnewmuscles.Atthesametime,yougetonesthatsayoxidativestressenterstheworld,createaging.Ifyoucanturnofftheagingonesandturnonthemusclegrowthones,that'scool,andthat'swhathydrogengasdoes,whichisdifferentthan,say,whatavitaminCcapsule'sgoingtodo,eventhoughvitaminC'sgoodatquenchingperoxynitrite,itquenchesthegoodonesaswell.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Idon'trecommendpeopletakingvitaminCregularly.Ithinkit'ssomething,especiallyLiposomalC,thateveryoneshouldhaveintheiremergencykitbecauseI'veneverseenanythingmoreeffective.Takingfourgramseveryhour,LiposomalC,becauseyouwillnotgetloosestools.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,orintravenous,yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,butLiposomal,it'sgoingtobeafractionofthecost,anditsureisaloteasier.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,itdoesn'traisethelevelsnearlyasmuch,though.

Dr.Mercola: Ithinkitmayraisethemmore.

DaveAsprey: Wow.I'dbeinterestedtoseethatresearch.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.IthinkTomLebee'sdoneit.

DaveAsprey: Okay,yeah,IknowTom.

Dr.Mercola: Becauseitgoesintracellularwhereyouneedit.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.Mercola: Whereas,theother,theregularvitaminC-

DaveAsprey: Intracellularsupplylevelshows.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Wedon'twanttogettoofaroffthatbecausewedon'twanttogodown.Itmaybealong,interestingdiscussion,butanotherepisodeoftheshow.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Theimportantpointforlistenersisjusttounderstandfreeradicalsarenotgoodorbad.Badfreeradicalsarebad,goodfreeradicalsaregood,justlikebadfatsarebadandgoodfatsaregood.

Dr.Mercola: Well,it'snotsomuchbadfreeradicals.Youneedacertainbaseline,soit'sexcessivefreeradicalsthat[crosstalk].

DaveAsprey: Idon'tknowthatanyperoxynitriteisbeneficialforus.

Dr.Mercola: Well,thatweknowof,butwhoknows.Maybeyouneedacertainbaseline.

DaveAsprey: Fairpoint.You'renotgoingtogetridofallofit.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Theideaistochangetheratioofthese,justlikewemightchangetheratioofomegasixtoomegathreefattyacidsinourdietandgetabenefitbysuppressingthesixandincreasingthethrees,butnotgettingridofthesixes.

Dr.Mercola: Thesefreeradicalsaren'thangingaroundforhours,days,orweeks.Theyliterallylastaverytinyfractionofasecond.That'swhyyouhavetohaveitthererightaway.It'sexactlywhatmolecularhydrogendoes.

DaveAsprey: I'lldefinitelytryoneofthehydrogentabletsinwaterwhileflying.

Dr.Mercola: Well,bringabunch,justincase.

DaveAsprey: Ofcourse.Okay.That'saprettycoolhack.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Now,we'vetalkedaboutthat.We'vetalkedaboutsomeketosisisalwaysgood.We'vetalkedaboutjustminimizingexposurefromwhereyoucarryyourdevicesfromWi-Firoutersusingmoreethernet.

Anythingelsepeoplelisteningtotheshowtodaycangohomeanddo?WetalkedaboutFaradaycageseven,butwhatelsecouldyoudorightnow?

Dr.Mercola: WithrespecttoEMF?

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: IthinkIwoulddotheduediligencebecausethisissonew.Iwouldencourageandstronglyencourageyoutoactuallybeanadvocateforthisbecausethere's,essentially,industryconspiracy,anditreallyisaconspiracy.Imean,ifyoureadthestories,it'sjustasbadasthedrugindustry,ifnotworse,thatthey'resuppressingthisinformation.Anylegitimateresearchercomesupisdefundedanddiscredited.

DaveAsprey: That'safairpoint,thatishappening.

Dr.Mercola: Thisinformationisoutnow.AsIsaid,IbelieveDr.PallshouldgettheNobelPrizeforhiswork,sowatchhislectures,understanditsothatyoucancommunicatethistoyourfriendsandneighbors.Theydon'thavetodieandsufferprematurelybecausetheydon'tknowthisinformation,andjustbeanadvocateforit.Theotherone,animportantoneIforgot,smartmeters.

DaveAsprey: Oh,yeah.Thoseare[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Smartmeters.Thesame,probablyworsethanWi-Fi.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Terribleforyou.

Dr.Mercola: We'rerecordingthisthefirstweekofAugust,orthesecondweekofAugust,sothefirstweekofAugust,yougoonmysite,weranadocumentaryaboutsmartmeters.Itgoesinalotofthedetailsandisencouragingpeopletobandtogetherbecausetheyhaveextortionaries.YoucanactuallynothaveasmartmeterinyourhouselikeIdo,butIhavetopay$35amonthtodothat.That'sextortion.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,wehavesomefeelikethat,too.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,Ithinktheydoittoeveryone,andsupposedlyit'stojustifythecostofhavingtosendsomeoneout.Well,that'snottoobad,butI'msurethey'remakingextramoneyonitandtheyneverchargedyouforitbefore.Itwasalreadybuiltintotheequation.

DaveAsprey: It'slikechargingyourpowercompany$35amonthfornotthrowingrocksthroughtheirplateglasswindows,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,yeah.Verygoodanalogy.Yeah,Ilovethat.Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Itdoesn'tmakeanysensetome.

Dr.Mercola: I'llbetitincreasesthebottomline.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,ofcourse.Iunderstandtherearethings,Idon'twanttosendsomeonetoyourhousebecauseit'sexpensive,bottomlineis,sorryguys,youhaveamonopoly,yougottodoyourjobs,yougetpaidtosendpeopletomyhouse

becauseyoudidn'tpaymeto,basically,takethehitbiologicallyforthewirelessstuff.

Dr.Mercola: It'snotliketheircostwentupbecausethey'vebeendoingthissincethey'vebeenprovidingpower.Thissmartmeterthingisarelativelynewintroductionformostcommunities.

DaveAsprey: IfyouacknowledgethatWi-Ficausesproblems,youcanengineerasmartmeterthatisnotbiologicallyharmful.Itdoesn'thavetosendconstantusagestuff.That'sallgravy.Ifit'sgoingtosendonceaday,adailyusagething,andsomeofthatotherstuff,itdoesn'tmatter.It'sasinglepulse.

It'sirrelevant.It'stheconstantsendingofdatathatthey'redoing,andbottomlineis,guys,ifyou'reasmartmeterengineerlisteningtothis,well,youprobablyalreadyturneditoffbecauseImadeyoumad,butthat'sgood,ornot.Here'sthedeal,youcanfixtheproblem.Thereissuchathingasasmartmeterthat'snotharmful.Noonemakesitbecausethedemandisthere,butnoone'sacknowledgedthedemand,sohere'sthedemand.Yougot,what,aquartermillionpeoplelisteningtothis,thisisyourdemand.

Dr.Mercola: Absolutely.

DaveAsprey: We'llbuythose.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,absolutely.Idon'tknowaboutthecompatibilitybetweenallthedifferentutilities,buttherecertainlyisaneedforit,there'snoquestion.Ifyou'reanentrepreneur,youcanfitthatneed,butIthinkallthemessageisjustbeanadvocate.Understandthisandstarttellingpeopleaboutit.Let'sstartspreadingtheword.Ithinkthat'swhatwedo.

Irealizedalongtimeagothatreally,thewaywe'regoingtogetthisisnotbygoingtothegovernmentortryingtochangethelaw,that'snotgoingtowork.Ithastocomefromthepublic.Publichastodemandthisandrefuseto,Iguess,relinquishtheirpowertotheseauthoritiesandrelyontheirbeliefthattheonlydamageisthermaldamage,andthatisabsolutelybiologicallytrue.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.There'salonghistoryofchangingdemandinordertocausechangeandchangingsupply.

Dr.Mercola: We'redoingitwithorganic.

DaveAsprey: Well,we'redoingitwithorganic-

Dr.Mercola: Glyphosate,whichisnowpoison.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Yeah.

Dr.Mercola: Wecan'talwaysallowthat.

DaveAsprey: You'vechangeddemandforstuffwithMercola.com.

Dr.Mercola: Thenewthingisbiodynamic.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,oh,that'smuchbetter.TheSarGardenisbiodynamicandsoisyours,right?

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Absolutely.

DaveAsprey: Nowthere'ssomestuffinbiodynamicthat'sreallyhardforpeopletoswallowbecauseifyoufollowthefullstandard,youhavetoburyacow'sheadfullofpoop,orsomething,underafullmoon-

Dr.Mercola: No,no,it'sactuallythehornwithmanure.It'sburied.Here'sthenextlevel,istotakethatmanureoutanddevelopacompostteaoutofitandthensprayitallovertheproperty.

DaveAsprey: Interesting.

Dr.Mercola: Youactuallyspreadthemicrobesaround.

DaveAsprey: What'sgoingonthereisyoucouldsay,"Oh,that'sabunchofhippyfairystuff,"oryoucouldsay,"Oh,there'sactuallybiologicalmaterials,"andyou'reculturingmicrobesinthesoilandthenspreadingthemaround,whichiswhat'sgoingon,soit'scarefulmicrobemanagement.

Dr.Mercola: It'srelativelyeasytodo,evenifyoudon'thaveacow,youcanbuythese.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,it'snotthathardtodo,butit'sfunnybecauseithasareputationforbeingreallyoutthere,butitactuallyworksforthebestpotontheplanetandthebestwineontheplanet,it'sallbiodynamic.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Imaginethat.

DaveAsprey: There'sareason.

Dr.Mercola: Ifitdidn'twork,theywouldn'tdoit.

DaveAsprey: Right.That'swhatitcomesdownto.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.

DaveAsprey: Well,onthatnote,Dr.Mercola,thankyouforthisepisodeofBulletproofRadio.Ithinkthatthere'ssomerealactionablestuffthatpeoplecandothatwetalkedabout.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.Trytogetpeopleactionablestuff,yeah.

DaveAsprey: You'regoingtogetintomoredetailattheBulletproofConference,whichis-

Dr.Mercola: Yes.

DaveAsprey: Whichisprettycool.

Dr.Mercola: Planongoingthere,definitelygo.

DaveAsprey: We'regoingtohaveeighthydrogenmachinesthereaswell,sothere'llbeahydrogenstations,so-

Dr.Mercola: Oh,interesting.

DaveAsprey: ...peoplecanstartlearningabouthydrogen,whichissupercool,andahundredothercellexhibitors.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,I'mreallylookingforwardtoit.

DaveAsprey: [crosstalk]

Dr.Mercola: I'mexcited.

DaveAsprey: I'mlookingforwardtoyourtalkbecauseyou'vebeenreallyontopofthisstuffforalongtime,andyou'regoingtobesharingstuffthatyouhaven'ttalkedaboutbefore.

Dr.Mercola: Yeah,andI'malsogoingtobesharingmyfavoritebiohacks,butI'mnotgoingtodoitinthemainlecturethatwehave.Ihavea15minutewhereIspeaktoeveryoneandthere'sabreakoutsession,we'llbesharingthoseinoneofthebreakouts.

DaveAsprey: Oh,I'mexcitedtoseethat.Dr.Mercola,oneveryepisodeofBulletproofRadio,Ialwaysaskpeopleforthreethings,threepiecesofadviceyouwould...obviouslysomeonewhowantstoperformbetter,andsinceyou'vealreadyansweredthatinthelastepisode,peoplecanandshouldhearthatwholeepisode,whatIwouldnormallydoissaythreethingsyoucandotomitigateEMF,butwealreadyjustlistedthose,soIthinkyougot[crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: Yeah.It'shardbecausethere'ssomanygoodthings.Therealfood,themovement,andgratitudeishuge,ismassivelyimportant.Imean,it'sjustsuchagoodstrategy.There'sanotherinterestingtoolthatIthinkwouldbeveryusefulthatIjustencounteredbecausemymotherpassedawayafewweeksago,anditwasprobablythebiggestgriefchallengeI'vehad.Weallhaveourparents,notall,buteventuallytheygo.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,peopledie.

Dr.Mercola: Hopefullytheydo.Peopledie.Weallhavepeoplethatweknowandlovepassaway.TherewasagreatbookandIdon'tknowifyou'vereadit,it'sbyDavidHawkins,H-A-W-K-I-N-S,MVP.

DaveAsprey: [crosstalk].

Dr.Mercola: He'swrittenalotofbooksandhepassed.Hewasabrilliantphysicianandresearcher.Hewasreallyintoenergymedicine,butthislastbook,beforehewent,wasLettingGo:ThePathwaytoSurrender.Definiteread.You'vegottoputitonyourlist.

DaveAsprey: Oh,I'llreadthat.

Dr.Mercola: Ithinkit'soneofthemostprofoundlypowerfulandsimpletoolsyoucanuse.Doesn'tcostyouanythingbutthepriceofthebook.It's$15.It'sjustasimpletechniquethatyoucando,justeloquentlyexplainthatreallynotjustforgrief,althoughthat'sapowerfulone,butjustaboutanyemotion-

DaveAsprey: Expectations.

Dr.Mercola: ...andfeelingthatyouhavethat'sreallydestructive.Weallknowthatstressisabigissue,butalotofit,wehavethetool.Thisgivesyouthetooltodothatanditdoesn'treallycostanything.

DaveAsprey: That'scalledLettingGo?

Dr.Mercola: LettingGo:ThePathwaytoSurrender,DavidHawkins,H-A-W-K-I-N-S.

DaveAsprey: Allright.Thatisafantasticpieceofadvice.Ithinkthat'sthefirsttimesomeone'sofferedabookasoneoftheiranswerstothat.

Dr.Mercola: Well,becauseit's-

DaveAsprey: It'simportant.

Dr.Mercola: Thestress,sure,ifpeoplesaystress,buthowareyougoingtoremediatethestress?

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Dr.Mercola: Yeah,thanksforyourgracioushospitality.Itwaswonderfultovisityourlabs,andI'minspiredtoprobablygetsomeofthestuffthatyougotdownhere,andgreattoseeyourgarden.Ihearyoutalkaboutitallthetime,butitwasjustgreat,andyourwife,yourlovelywife,Lana.

DaveAsprey: Thankyou

Dr.Mercola: She'sgreat.

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