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© The Bulletproof Executive 2013

Transcript of “294 with Todd White”

Bulletproof Radio podcast #294

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Speaker2: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance.Dave: Hey,it’sDaveAspreywithBulletproofRadio.Today’scoolfactofthedayisthatalotofthewineyoucanget,especiallyintheUSissonotBulletproofandthere’slotsofreasonsforthat,buttogiveyouacoupleofexampleswhy,about99%ofUSvineyardsareirrigatedandtheyusesyntheticfertilizerwhichhasanimpactonthesoil.GuesswhatthenumberoneherbicideusedbyUSvineyardsis.It’sMonsanto’sRoundup.ThismattersbecausetheysayRoundupdoesn’tharmhumansbecauseitharmsbacteria. Guesswhatlivesinyoursoil.There’sfungus,there’sbacteria.Theyworktogethertomakeahealthysoil.Whenyouhavemessedwithbacterialenzymesandbacterialreproductionwhathappens,andthisisdocumentedinstudies,isthatthemicrotoxinproductionofthefungusinthesoilgoesupbyhundredsoftimes.Microtoxisareneurotoxic,genotoxicandtoxictoyourabilitytomakeenergyinyourcells.Thesearethingsyoudon’twantgrowingallwillynillyinyoursoilespeciallyifyou’rethengoingtofermentthosegrapes.Thatdoesn’tsoundveryBulletprooftome.Speaker1: Itallstartswithyourwebsite.BulletproofExec.comiswhereIstarted.Thewebsite’simmenselyimportanttoBulletproofbecausethat’showwehelpmillionsofpeopleeverymonth.Growingyourbusinessstartswiththisstunningwebsite.Nomatterwhatbusinessyou’reinWix.comwillhavesomethingtohelpyoucreateakickasswebsite.Wix.comisacloudbaseddevelopmentplatformthat’susedbymorethan70millionpeoplethroughouttheworld.Youcandoityourself.Youdon’tneedtohaveaprogrammerordesignerandtheyhavehundredsofdesignermadecustomizabletemplatestochoosefrom.Thereareeasydraganddropfeatureswithnocodingneededandyoucangetyourwebsitelivetoday.Withmobileoptimization,securehosting,SEO,24/7supportandmoretohelpyoubuildyourcompanythewayIdid.It’seasyandtheresultisstunning.AlsocheckoutthestoriesonW-I-X.comtoseerealsuccessstoriesofpeoplewho’veusedWixtobuildgreatwebsites.GotoWix.comandsignupforanentirelyfreeaccounttoday,nocreditcardsrequired.That’sWIx.com,W-I-X.com.checkthemouttoday.Dave: BeforewegetintotheshowIwanttotalkaboutsomethingIdon’tmentionenough.Youprobablydon’tknowthis,butifyouareonyouriPhoneoryourandroidandyouwentoutandsearchedforFoodDetectivethatisafreeBulletproofapp.It’sreallycoolbecauseitusesyourheartrate,notyourheartratevariability,butactuallyjustyouractualheartrate,itgetsitfromyoucameraoryoucantypeitin.Youusethatalongwithalittlefoodthingwhenyouenterwhatyouate,adiary.It’lltellyouwhichfoodsaretriggeringyoursympatheticnervoussystemjustbylookingatyourbeforeandaftermealthing. That’scool.That’scalledFoodDetective.Ifyouwanttostepitupanotchwehave…Thatappisfree.It’sdownloadedalotoftimes.It’soneofthefastestwaytotellwhichfoodsaremakingyouweak.Infactyoucanuseittotellifsomethinginwineiscausingaproblemforyouofsaysomethinglikehistaminewhichyoucanhearaboutinalittlebit.There’salsoonecalledStressDetectivethathasallofthosefeatures,butitusesacheststrapheartratemonitor.Ifyoudothat,StressDetective,it’safewbucks.It’snotexpensive.Theheartratestrapsrunaround40to100dollars.Ifyoudothisyoucanwearitalldaylongforjustaweekandit’llgiveyouagraphattheendoftheday. Itshowswhatwasmoststressfultoyournervoussystemduringtheday.Youcanfigureoutthatyourmeetingwithyourbosswasnotstressful,butthemeetingwithyour,say,oneofyourpeerswassuperstressful.Youcanfigureoutthatyourcommutehomeactuallyreallydoespissyouofforthatthecommutehomeisn’t

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bad.Whenyouwalkinthedoorandyourkidstackleyoubeforeyou’vehadachancetotakeadeepbreathe,thatisstressful.Havingtheabilitytolookatthisandseewhatyournervoussystemisdoingandcorrelatewithyourcalendarisacooldeal.Ilearnedsomethingsaboutmylifefromthat.That’scalledStressDetectiveandthefreeoneiscalledFoodDetectiveonboththeAppleandtheGooglePlaystores.Checkitout. Nowontotheshow.ToddWhite,who’sourguest,isthefounderofDryFarmWines.I’vegottentoknowToddoverthelastcoupleofyearsbecausehe’sabiohackerandhe’sbeenattheBulletproofconference.Infactwasservingsomewinethere.Ifyou’vereadmybookoryou’velistenedtoalotofradioshowswithmeI’moneofthoseguyswho’s,Ireallywantwine…infactIwantallalcoholreallyhealthy.IfonlytwoglassesadaywasgoingtostaveoffAlzheimer'sdiseaseandmakemeperformbetterwouldn’tthatbegreat?InfactIalsolikehighfructosecornsyruptobesomethingthatwouldmakemeperformreally,reallywellandBenandJerry’sicecream.Infactpizza.Pizzawasjustsuperfood,ohmygod,wouldn’titbegreat.Nomatterhowmuchyoutorturethescienceyouactuallycan’tsaythattobacco’sgoodforyou.Alittlebitofnicotineprobablyis,butsmokingisn’t. I’vegottentothepointwhereifyou’vereadtheBulletproofInfographic,downloaditforfree,I’verankedthingssaying,“Apre-filteredalcohollikevodkaisbestandtheworstisbeer,butrightnexttothatisredwine.”I’msaying,“Thesearetheonesthatarecausingthoseproblems.”AfterI’vedoneallthisscience,readallthesestudies,lookedattoxinlevels,bothochratoxin,othermetabolicbyproductsherecomesToddWhiteandhebiohackswineandusesorganicandsomeoftheotherfarmingpracticesthatIuseincoffeeandthenhedidwhatIdidwithcoffeewhichishequantifiedthefarmingpractice.Heusedlabtestingtovalidatethathewascreatingwhathewantedtocreateinsteadofgoing,“Oh,thistastesnice.” Thinkaboutthisforaminute.Youhaveawholegenerationormanygenerationsofwine…asomeonegoes,“Ittastesliketennisshoes,”orwhateverthewinetasteslike,I’mnota[inaudible00:06:01]Butyoualsohavemultiplegenerationsofcoffeepeoplegoing,“Ihavenotesof…”whateverthattheytastedintheircoffee.“Ihavenotesofcherryorvanillaortobacco.”Wejustdidabigcoffeetastingtheotherday.It’sthesamething.Let’sjustbereallyclear.Thesearepeoplewhohavehypersensitivenosesandpalateswhogothroughandthenquantifyonlythetaste.Bothofthemhavenumericalratings,butneitherofthosethingshasbeenverybiochemicallyaccurate. Inthecaseofwine,inthecaseofcoffeethere’sonlyonecompanyineachspacewho’slookingatflavorandbiochemistryfromahumanperformanceperspectiveinsteadoffromthisperspectiveoflet’sseewhatbiochemistrygeneratesthebesttaste.Screwthatnoise.Whatbiochemistrygeneratesthebestperformanceandthebesttaste.That’swhatmatters.That’swhyToddisontheshowtodaybecausewe’regoingtotalkaboutbiohackedwine.Ireallyappreciatewhathe’sdone.I’velookedintoitindetail.Todd,thatwasaprettybigintro.Welcometotheshow.Todd: ThanksDave.Idon'tknowifI’mgoingtobeabletoputwineandpizzainthesamecategory.Dave: Here’swhatwedo[crosstalk00:07:13]Todd: Exactly.Idon’teatpizza.AsyouknowI’mketogenic.I’manon-glutenguy.Here’swherewedoagreeandIgivealotofthoughttothis.WehaveanamazingrelationshipwithBulletproof.Wewerethewinesponsoratthisyear’sBulletproofconference.Foryourlistenerswhohaven’tbeentotheconference,wegotoalotofhealthconferencesbecausewe’retheonlybiohackedwineontheplanet.Wegetinvitedtobewinesponsorsat

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manyconferences.Asyouknow,youandIseeoneanotherfrequentlyatconferences.TheBulletproofconferenceisveryspecialinthattheenergyandthelearningandthepeoplemainly.Iencourageanyofyourlistenerswhohaven’tbeentotheconferencetoreallyreservethatspacethisSeptemberinPasadenaforanamazingexperience.Dave: Thanksfortheplugvenue,youdon’thavetodoit.Iappreciateit.Todd: I’mnotpluggingitdude.I’mjusttellingyoufromtheheartthatIhave,asyouknow,MarkMoshelisagoodfriendofminenow.Imethimthereandhe’sbeenalongtimeanassociateofyours.Dave: He’sourMCattheconference.Todd: Justyourwholeteam.That’sanotherthingthat’ssoremarkable.TheBulletproofteam,thecultureisjustsosupportiveandfriendly.I’vereadallofyourbooksandfollowedyourworkcloselyandhere’swhatweclearlyagreeonaboutalcohol.YouandIaregoingtohavesomerealclearagreement.Alcoholistoxic.Soiswaterandoxygeninthewrongdosage.Thesecondthingwe’regoingtoagreeonisalcoholdoesnothingtoenhanceperformanceorBulletproofperformance.Dave: [Inaudible00:08:59]Resveratrol,comeonman,it’sgoodforyou.Todd: Listen,Resveratrolisaredherring.Hasallthepolyphenolsasyouknow.Youwouldhavetodrinksomuchwinetobenefitfromtheresveratrolelementthatyou’dbeswimminginitfortherestofyourlife.Dave: It’slikelycopeneinketchup.It’slikecomeonguys.Justbecauseit’sintheredoesn’tmeanitmatters.Todd: Thatbeingsaidhere’swhatalcoholisgoodfor.Firstofallitcanbealotoffunandmostofyou,intherightdosage…We’regoingtotalktoday,IrememberwhenyouandIfirsthadamomenttospeakaboutthisattheBulletproofconferenceatoneofyourVIPdonorswhichwas,Isaid,“Peopleneedtothinkaboutmicrodosingalcohol.”Yousaid,“Ilikethat,that’sagoodidea.”We’regoingtotalkaboutdosagebecausedosagereallymatters,butIthinkwherealcoholandparticularlywine…Idon’tdrinkbeernaturallybecauseallofitsproblemsandIdon’tdrinkspiritsbecauseIdon’twantthathighthedoseofalcohol.Iunderstandtheargumentaroundthedistilledpurityofit.I’vegotallthat,butformeIwanttofind…Ienjoywine. I’vebeenalifelongwinelover.Myfriendsarelifelongwinelovers.IliveintheheartoftheNapaValley.Wineisapartofmyculture,particularlyaroundmealsandcommunity.Here’swhatwinedoesdoandhere’swhatalcoholdoesdothat’sverypositiveintherightdosage.Alcoholraiseseuphoria.WegetinwhatIcallthehappyzone.We’vegotanincreaseineuphoria,butmostimportantly,andDave,Iknowyou’llappreciatehowimportantthisiswhenyou’rebondingandgettingtoknowpeople,mostimportantlyitalsolowersinhibitionslightly.Dave: SothenifIheardthatrightalcoholgetsyoulaid?Todd: Definitelygetsyoulaid,itdefinitelygetsyoulaid,butinaculturalsetting,whenwe’resharingandbondingwithoneanother,whenwehavethisvulnerabilitythatincreasesalittlebitwheninhibition’scomingdownandtheeuphoria,whereIwanttostayinahappyplacewithwineandalcoholiswhereI’mstillcreativelyexpressive.There’sstillcognitiveenergythere.Wherewe’rehavingadeeperbetterconnectionbecauseofthis

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communityofsharingandexploringwineandadventuringaroundtheworldonwines.That’swhatwedo.CombiningthatwithBulletprooffood,togetherthat’swherealcoholisbeneficial,whenpeoplebondandhavemomentsofclarityandvulnerabilitytogether.Ifthedosagegetstoohighthat’saproblem.Dave: I’mwithyoutherewherethere’ssomethingslikewhatifyouneedtoflyacrosseighttimezones,landandthengogiveapresentationorhaveanimportantmeeting?It’sactuallybadforyou.There’snoargumentthatthat’sabeneficialthingtodo.Howeveryou’regoingtodoit.Youmightaswelldoitinawaythat’smostbeneficialgiventheconstraints.Ifwhatyou’regoingtodoisyou’regoingtohavesomewineandyou’regoinghavetherightamountofitandyou’renotgoingtohavethedownsidethatwouldcomeifyouweredrinkingalotofwine.Ifullysupportthat.Biohackingisn’taboutavoidingeverything.It’sknowingwhatyou’redoingandthentakingcontroloftheeffectsofit. IwasskepticalasallhellwhentheBulletproofteamwaslike,“HeyDave,you’vegottotalkwithTodd.”I’mlike,“Really?Havingawinesponsorattheconference?Whydon’twehavePhillipMorriswhilewe’reatitnext?”Like,“No,no,payattentiontothis.”IreallyduginandI’minfullagreementwithwhatyou’resaying.IwouldprefertodrinkwinetospiritsbecauseIlikewinebetter.Idon’tdrinkverymuch,butIcantellyou,IhadaglassofyourwineattheBulletproofconferenceandthatistheleastlikelytimeformetohaveanykindofalcoholbecausealcoholdoeshaveadownside. Mostpeoplewhohaven’trunaconferencelikethatprobablydon’thaveaconceptionofhowmuchenergyittakes.Tobeabletoshowuponstageandwereeveryminuteofeveryday,it’sfullymaxedoutbecausethere’sliterally1,500peoplethereor1,300peoplethereandtheyallwanttotalktome.Mykidsarethere.Myfamily,mykidswanttotalktome.It’sjustnon-stopandyousleepsixhoursanightandyoudoitagain.Iwouldnevereventhinkofhavingalcoholinanenvironmentlikethat,butIhadaglassofwinebecauseIcanactuallyhandlethatvery,verywellbecauseofthewayyoutreatthewine. Let’sgetintowhat’sdifferentaboutaproperlymadebiohackedwine.Thisisn’tmeanttoshitonanyofthewineriesouttherethataremakingreallyflavorfulwineaccordingtotraditionaltechniques.It’sjustthattheymakewinethat’sflavorfulandamazing,butithassomehiddenstuffinitthataffectsalotofpeoplenegativelyandthatIthinkwecanchangethewineindustryjustasBulletproofisstartingtochangethecoffeeindustrywherepeoplearestartingtotalkaboutthisproblemthattheAmericangovernmentdidn’tprotectusfromtoxinsincoffee,eventhoughmostoftheotherworldgovernmentsdid.ItturnsouttheAmericangovernmentdoeshavestandardsfortoxinsinwine.They’rejustnotasgoodasothercountries.Tellmewhatyoudoinyourwine,what’sdifferent.Todd: Iwanttotouchbasebackforasecondonanearlierpodcastthatyouhaddoneaboutalcohol.InthatpodcastyoumentionedthatwhenyoudrankredwineitwasEuropeanandolderthanyou.Dave: Yeah,ithadtohavetheyellowlabel.Notforexportlabel,it’smeanttostayinEuropewheretheykeepthegoodstuff.Todd: Thisbringsupanexcellentpointnow,thinkingthefoundationofyourquestion.Wines42yearsago,plus,Ithinkyou’re42-Dave: AreyousayingI’mold?YousaidIwasold.

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Todd: Youlookawesome,butmaybeit’sthelightinginthestudio.Dave: It’sthestemcellsIjustdidlastweek.Todd: Iheardaboutthat.Somebodywastellingmethatataconferencethispastweekend.Wines40,50,60yearsagoweremadeexactlythesamewayourwinesaremadetoday.Theywereadditivefree,theyhadlowinterventioninthefarmingandlowinterventioninthewinemaking.You’reabsolutelyonpointwhenyousayIwanttodrinkawinethat’solderthanIam.Exceptforthewinesthatweprocureandrepresent.Thereasonourwinesaredifferentisbecausewehavetakenlabquantificationtoanalreadypureproducttoensurethatitmeetsourstandardsofpurity. Let’sstartback.Attheverybeginningbiohackedwinesareorganicallyorbiodynamicallyfarmed.Theabsenceofanychemicals,syntheticfertilizersoranykindofpoisons.Inourcasemostofthesefarmshavebeenorganicorbiodynamicfordecades.Mostofthelandsforthefarmersthatwerepresent,whichareexclusivelyinEurope,mostofthemaremulti-generational.Theseguysarelikeactivistfarmers.They’relikestewardsoftheland.They’rehippies.Theytakerealsincereprideanddevotionintostewardshipoftheland.Theytakerealprideindiscussionandthefeelingoflivingsoil.Idon'tknowifyousawdoctorJosephMercola’spostlastweekontheimportanceoflivingsoilsandevenhavingourchildreninlivingsoils.Whenyoutouchalivingsoilyoucanpickitupandyoucanfeelitandyoucanlookatitandseetheorganismsandthebeautyofit.Dave: IfIturnthecamerathatwayitwilllookdownatthegardenthatgrowsallthefoodmyfamilyeats.Mykidsareinthereeverydaydiggingandall.It’spartofliving.Wegobacktothesoilwhenwe’redead.Todd: Livingsoiliswherethefoundationoffarmingbegins.Thensecondofallforthegrapevine,andthisisnottrueforallthingsthatwegrow,butforthegrapevinethefirstpointofintervention,Iwantanaturalwholeproduct.EverytimeIcangetthemostnatural,themostwholeproductinwhatIconsumethat’swhatIwant.That’strueforwine.Thefirstinterventionisirrigation.Allofourfarmsaredryfarmed,meaningtheyhavenoirrigation.Letmetellyouhowthatimpactsthedevelopmentofthevineandthefruitanditstaste.Commonsensewilltellyouthis. 90%ofawine’stasteandcharacter,thefinishedproductbeginswithandisdependentuponthefruitthatisthefoundationoftheproduct.It’sjustlikeifyousqueezedawintertomatofromthesupermarket,thejuiceoutofitandasummerripetomatofromyourvinethereinBCyouwouldhavetwodifferenttypesofjuice.Itdoesn’tmatterwhatyoudotothatbadtomato,it’snevergoingtotastegood.Wineisthesameway.Thefoundationofthisproduct,itsqualitybothfromabiohackedhealthpointofviewaswellasitstastebeganwiththefruit. Anirrigatedgrapevinehasarootballthat’saboutthreefeetwideanddeep.it’sverysmall,becauseitgetsallofitswaterandnutrientsfromthesurface.Anunirrigatedgrapevinehasarootstructurethatruns30,40,50feetdeepandaround.It’ssearchingfornutrientsandwaterbecauseithastogofinditandbreakapartlittlepiecesofsoillookingfornutrientsandwater.Commonsensewilltellyou,andthere’salotofdebatewithintheindustrybecausealmostallofNorthAmericanvinesareirrigated,99%plusofthemareirrigated.There’salotofdebateaboutthistopic.Iwouldtellyoufrommyexperienceandcommonsensetellsmethatthatfruitismorecomplexandthatthatvinehasstruggledtobuilditsrootstructureanditscomplexityandthequalityoffruitthatitdelivers.

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Itbeginswiththeirrigation,propercaringoflivingsoilsandfromthereonceyougointowinemakinghere’sthemaindifferencebetweenwhatourfarmersdo,andourfarmersinEuropearealsothewinemakers.They’reoneandthesame.Oftentimes,orthefolkswedealwith,oftentimesatbiggerestatesandintheUSyouhavemaybeagrapegrowerandawinemakerinthiscultureofcelebritywinemakeryouhave.They’retwodifferentpeople,butinourcasethey’reasmallfarm,smallproductionsandthey’realwaysthesameperson.Inthewinemakingwe’relookingforverylowintervention.Thatmeansnooakprograms,becausewe’reconcernedabouttheseheavynewoakprogramsandthewoodcompoundsandwedon’tknowwhatmaybecomingfromthose.Dave: You’renotallowingoakinyourproduction?Todd: No.Thereare,ifyouintosomeofthefarmersthatwerepresentyou’llseebigoakvats,butthoseoakvatsarealltheneutral.Theydonotimpartanycompoundorflavorfromthewood.Dave: Sooldoakisokay,butnewoak…Todd: That’scorrect.Oakwillgoneutralinaboutfiveyears.Itstopsimpartingflavorsortransferringcompounds…Youhadaquestion?Dave: Yeah.There’saninterestingstudy,andpeople,you’llbesurprised,becauseanytimeIreadaboutthesemultoxinsIjustdiginbecauseIwanttounderstandwhytheykeepoccurringinourfood.Itturnsoutstainlesssteelfermentationismorelikelytoproducetoxinsduringfermentationthanoak,butthat’snecessarilynewoak.It’sanyoak.IfIhadachoiceIwouldwantoldoakbecauseapparentlythewood,thepresenceofwoodorevenprobablythepresenceofsomeoldoakinastainlesssteelthingchangestheresponseofsomeofthemicroorganismsinawaythatIfindfascinating,butI’mimpressedthatyou’reusingonlyoldoak,notnewoak,becauseIalsooaktanninsaremaybe,theychangetheflavor,butwhattheydobiologically…I’mnotsureweevolvedtoeatoaktannins.I’mnotsureourgutbacteriareallylikethosethings.Ijustdon’tknow.Todd: Idon'tknow.Theydon’tagreewithme.Ialsodon’tlikethetasteofitandit’sjustheavyhanded.It’sinterventionfromthewinemaker.We’renotdealingwithhonestpurerealwine.Winecanbefermentedinstainless,glass,clay,concrete…Listen,youcanmakewineinTupperware.Dave: Fireextinguishersinprison,anything.Todd: Whatwe’relookingforisverylowinterventionwinemakingtechniqueswhichincludestheuseofnoadditivesandchemicals.Let’stalkaboutthatforamoment.IntheUnitedStateswehave76approvedadditivesfortheuseofwinemaking,approvedbytheFDA.I’mgoingtotalkaboutthis.InEuropethereare56.Ourwinemakersdonotuseadditivesofanykind.Dave: Thatisahugedifferentiator.Thatwasoneofthethingsthatattractedmetowhatyou’redoinginthefirstplace.That’showit’ssupposedtobe.Whataretheworstsayfiveadditivesthattheindustryuses?Todd: Letmegobacktotheadditivesforasecond.Metals,copperisverycommon.Ammoniaphosphate,ade-foamingagent.Letmetellyouwhatade-foamingagentis.Whenyoumovewine,whenyoupumpwineoverfromitsfermentationto…whenyoumoveitbetweentanksitcreatesafoam.Ourwinemaker,theoldguy,thehippie,hejustwaitsonthefoamtodiedown,butbecauseworldwideandintheUSwewanttomakefaster,not

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necessarilybetter,wewanttomitigateriskandincreaseprofits.Wehavede-foamingagentsthatmakethefoamgoawayrightawaysowecanmakethewinefaster.That’sthepursuitofprofits.That’sthereasonwehavetheseadditives. Letmetouchontheseforjustasecond.Thereare76ofthem.YoucanseeonlinewineadditivesFDA,it’llbringupthelistforyou.HereisthethingDave,andyou’llappreciatethis.Ofthe76approvedadditivesintheUSforwinemaking,chemicaladditives,38ofthemincludetheacronymGRAS.Thatstandsforgenerallyregardedassafe.That’sjustaboutthemostreassurancewecangetfromhalfoftheapprovedadditivesbytheFDA.That’sdisturbingtome,thatthegovernmentsays,“We’regoingtoapprovethisandallweknowaboutthemisthatthey’regenerallyregardedassafe.”Ourwinescontainnoneofthoseadditives.”Dave: What’smoredisturbingtomeisthattheotheronesaren’tevengenerallyregardedassafe,butthey’restillallowedinwineandtheydon’thavetobeonthelabeleither,right?Todd: Thereisnolabelingforwine.Theonlylabelingrequirementforwineisnotevenrequiredtobeaccurate,bylaw.That’sthealcohol,andI’lltouchonthatinjustamoment.Thewineindustryhasfoughtveryaggressivelyandsuccessfullyaverypowerfullobbytokeepcontentslabellingoffofwine.Thatdidn’thappenbyaccident.Dave: Whoelsedidthat?Wouldthathavebeenbigtobacco?Todd: Exactly.Let’stalkaboutbigeverybody.SpeakingofbigeverybodyintheUS51%ofthewinemadeintheUnitedStatesismadebyjustthreegiantcompanies.Theydon’twantyoutoknowthat.ItgetspackagedupinthousandsoflabelsandbrandsandlittleChateaustomakeyoubelievethatyou’redrinkingfromasmallfamilyvineyardbutinfactthesewinesaremadebyhugeconglomerates.Dave: Thisisalittleknownfact,butE&JGalloinModesto,CaliforniapaidforthecomputersciencelaboratorywhereIstudiedbecausetheyusedtoemployalmostallofthegraduatesoftheprogramwhereIwenttoschool.IhadspentacoupleofyearsattheCaliforniastateuniversityinTurlock,CaliforniaandIactuallyappliedforajobatGallointheITdepartmentwhenIwasgettingoutofcollege.Theguylookedatme,andtheytookmeonatourofthesemilliongallonstainlesssteelvatswheretheyweremakingwine.Theguylookedatmeandhesaid,“Youhavealltherightqualifications,butI’mjustgoingtopaytotrainyouandIcantellthatyou’regoingtoquitandgetajobsomewhereelse.I’mnotgoingtohireyou.” Hewasactuallyright,butIdidactuallyseeoneofthosemassivewineproducersandwewalkedthroughit.Iwasblownawayatthescaleofthis,becausethisissuchafarcryfromtheoldguywiththebentbackandoakbarrels,butthat’swhatwe’rebuyinginalotofthestores.I’mnotpickingonGallothere.It’sjustthatIsawthescaleofthat.I’mlike,“Thisisanindustrialmanufacturingthingthatrivalsthelargestoilcompaniesintermsofwhatthey’redoing.”Itwasremarkable.Todd: It’sfactoryfarmingatitsbest.Thetankfarmsasthey’reknown,youcanjustseeforeverthesemassivetanksthatholdwine.Let’sswitchgearsovertospeakingofadditivestotalkaboutalso…Goahead.Dave: BeforeweswitchgearsIwantedtotalkonemorethingabouttheadditivesandthechemicalsthere.Ade-foamingagentisgoingtocontainasurfactantthing.Thesearethingsthataffectsurfacetension.Alotofpeoplewhoarelisteningtothis,you’regoingtosay,“TheFDAsaysthesethingsaregenerallyregardedassafe.They’reprobablynotgoingtobeharmful.”Ofcoursethefactthathalfofthemarenotlistedisabigthing,but

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onethingthatsurfactantsdothatisn’twellunderstoodiswhatisthecellmembraneinyourcell?It’sabunchoftinydropletsofoil,they’remicrodropletsthatrepelwateronbothsides.Theypushwaterintothecellandtheypushwateroutofthecell.There’snosaranwrapperaroundeachcell.It’sthesetinydropletsoffat.Whenyoutakeinsomeagentthatreducestheabilityoffatstomakethingslikebubbleswhat’sitgoingtodotoyourbody? Idon'tknow,butneitherdoyouandreallyformostofthesethingsnooneelsehaslookedattheireffect.Thereareverysmallbiochemicalthingsgoingon.Youcouldsaythey’reprobablyfine,I’lljustbuywhat’scheap.Ifthat’swhatyou’regoingtodoyoumaybelisteningtothewrongshoworokay,that’scool,godoit.TheprecautionaryprinciplethatIuseformyfamilyandformyownquesttoliveto180yearsoldisifIdon’tneeditIdon’twanttodoit.Ifit’snotgoingtoprovideaknownbenefitoralikelybenefitscrewthatnoise,Idon’twantitinmyfood.Iappreciatethatyou’rejustsaying,“Wedon’tneedanyofthatstuff.”Keepgoing,that’soneexampleofsomeofthesethingsyou’retalkingabout.Todd: Here’sthedefiningdifference.Ilovetheproverb,andyoulivebythisproverbasdoyourfollowersandlisteners.Tofeelistounderstand.There’snotruerstatementifyoucan…Asyouknow,Icoachpeople,Itrytohelppeopleimprovetheirlife,optimizetheirlifethroughbiohackingasyoudoandyoureachmillionsofpeople,butthefactismostpeoplemakechangesinlifethroughdesperation,notinspiration.Dave: Thereyougo.Todd: Youtalktopeopleabout,“Wow,thisisgoingtochangeyourlife,”andyou’resoexcitedaboutitbecauseyouknowitworksandIknowitworks,butIalwayscomebacktotheproverbwhenI’mcoachingpeopleorhelpingthemgetstartedonaprogramorachange,Itellthem,“Listen,tofeelistounderstand.Whenyoudrinkthesewines,”andI’lltellyouastoryaboutMarkSissonandthiswineinamoment,butwhenyoudrinkthesewinesyoujustfeelbetter.There’snobrainfog,nohangover,youjustfeelgreat.Dave: It’sanoticeabledifference.Todd: It’sanoticeabledifferenceandIknowyoudon’tdrinkalotofwine,butsomeofyourteammembersareregular-Dave: Idrinkyourwine.It’sverynoticeable.InfactyoucangetithereinCanadawithouta10,000%terraforsomethinglikethat.I’dbedrinkingituphere.I’dhavetocarryitinoverthebordermyselfnexttime.Idolikeyourwine.IfI’mgoingtodrinkredwineI’mgoingtopickyours,absolutely.Todd: That,MarkSissonforthefirsttimeattheBulletproofconference.ThisisanotheramazingthingaboutBulletproof.You’vegotthesegreathealthinfluencers,someoftheworld’stopleadersinthought,he’sroamingaroundonthefloor.Dave: MarkSisson,I’mhonoredthathecomestotheconference.Ireallyappreciateit.Todd: He’sterrific,butyougetaccessandthey’retherebecausetheywanttoshare.Yougetaccesstopeopleroamingaround.ImetMarkatBulletproofandIsaid,“I’mdoingthiswinething,”andhe’slike,“Idon’tdrinkwineanymore,Ican’tdrinkwine.Makesmefeelbad.Wakesmeupat3:00inthemorning.Ijustwanttothinkaboutmybusinessproblems.”

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Dave: That’sthestressfromthetoxins.That’samicrotoxin,notevenahistaminesymptomifyouaskme.Todd: Isaid,“I’mtryingtohelpyouhere.Ifyoulikewineyoucanreturntodrinking.I’mtryingtohelpyouhere.”Finallyhesaid,“Justgetintouchwithme.”IdidandIinvitedmyselfdowntohisMalibuhomeandwedidawinetasting,Ileftsomewinebehind.Hecamebacktomeandsaid,“Wow,I’mabeliever,you’reright.Idon’twakeupandIfeelgreat.Thesewinesareamazing.”I’mnotsayingthatbecauseit’sourwines.Wehaveaveryquantifiedapproachtoit.ThewinesIdrink,Ialsodon’twanttowakeupinthemiddleofthenightorwakeuptomorrowmorningwithbrainfog.Iwanttobeabletoenjoyamicrodoseofalcohol.Letmeswitchgearstosulphidesforasecond.Dave: Yeah,Iwasgoingtoaskaboutthat.There’sthreebigthingsinwine,tellmeaboutsulphides.Todd: Sulphidesare…firstofallthey’renaturallyoccurringinwinemaking.Evenifyouhavenoaddedsulphidesit’spossiblethatyoucouldhaveupto20or30partspermillionofsulphideswithoutaddinganySulphuratall.TheUSlimitforsulphidesis350partspermillion.Dave: What’stheEuropeanlimit?Todd: I’mnotsurewhattheEuropeanlimitis.Dave: It’sprobablylowerthanthat.Todd: Wedon’trepresentanywinethatexceeds75partsandmostofthewinesthatIdrinkareunder20partsandmostofthewinesthatwesellareunder20partspermillion.Dave: What’stheproblembiologicallywithsulphides?Todd: Nobodyknows.Here’swhatwedoknow.Theredherring,ormaybeyouhavesomeinsighttothem,theredherringisthatsulphidesmakeyoufeelbadorthatpeopleareallergictothem.That’sjustnottypicallytrue.Therearemoresulphidesinabagofpotatochips,Idon’teatpotatochips,I’msureyoudon’tether,butthere'smoresulphidesinraisinsanddriedfruit,whichweprobablyalsodon’teat,butsulphidesareeverywhereinfood.They’reeverywhere.Wineactuallycontainsaverylowamountofsulphide.Dave: Evenwinewherethere’ssomeadded.Todd: Yes.IwanttohaveatsomecasessomeslightaddedSulphurasapreservative,butasIsaidit’sverylowandmostofourwineshavenoaddedSulphur.Dave: Here’smyperspectiveonthat.Peoplewhoare,“allergic”tosulphidesaremostlikelyallergictooneoftheothertwocompoundsinwine.Ifthey’regettinganimmediateresponsetothewineitwasn’t…Itwasabiogenicamine,itwasn’tthesulphide.Mostofthesulphidereactionsaren’tsofast.PeoplehaveahardtimewithSulphurinwinethey’realsogoingtohaveahardtimewithotherfoodstyingSulphurandtheyhaveageneticdefectintheirtranssulphationpathways.ThisisoneofthosethingsthatI’vetalkedaboutinacoupleofotherepisodeswherewelookatyourmethylationpathways.

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Iactuallyhaveaslightproblemwithsulphide.It’sahomozygous,it’snotheterozygous.IhandleSulphurprettymuchjustfine.IcanuseMSN,IcanfloatinafloattankwithabsinthesaltandabsorbSulphurthroughmyskin,it’snobigdeal.There’ssomepeoplethat’sgoingtomessthemup.TheyhaveaproblemwithSulphurinwine,butit’sasmallpercentageofpeoplecomparedtothenumberofpeoplewhoare“allergic”tosulphides.They’regettingaresponse,butIdon’tbelieveit’sSulphurbased.It’ssomethingelse.Let’stalkabouttheothertwothingstheremightbeinwine.Whatarethethingsthatyoualsotestinwine?Todd: Wetestforanumberofthingsthatwe'relookingfor.Iwanttodialbackforjustasecondonthelabelingbecausewedidn’tfinishthisthought.Dave: Yeah,let’stalkaboutlabeling.Todd: Yeah,wedidn’tfinishthisthoughtandweskippedondowntheroadabitinourenthusiasm.Iwanttotouchbaseonthelabeling.Theonlythingthat’srequiredtobeonawinelabelrelativetothewineinthebottleisthealcohol.Here’stheproblem,yourfineUSgovernmentwhichhasmisleadyouonanumberofnutritionalanddietaspects-Dave: Theywouldn’tdothat.Todd: No,exactly.Thealcoholisnotrequiredtobeaccuratebylawandcanbeasmuchaspercentageandahalfpointoff.Furtherunderrandomtestingstudieshavefoundthatinmany,manycasesit’smorethanapercentandahalfoffbecausethere'snoenforcementaroundit.Typicallyit’salwaysroundeddownbecausethere’saperceptionthatloweralcoholishealthierandwineswithloweralcoholtastebetter,whichtheydo.Dave: What’syourstandardofdeviation?Youcan’tbeperfectlyaccurateoneachbottle.Todd: Weare.Wehaveeverybottlelabtested.Dave: Everysingle…itmustbeeverycaskorsomething,you’renotdoing-Todd: Everywine.WeactuallyrepresentfarmersandwinemakersinEurope.We’renotmakingthewine,butbeforeweacceptitintoourportfoliowesendeverysinglewinetoacertifiedthirdpartyenologistwhodoesindependentlabtestingforus,unaffiliated.Wedon’tdoourlabtesting.Wewanttomakesurethatthatprocessisindependent.Dave: Ithastobeindependent.Idothattoo.ActuallyIhaveavarietyoflabsdependingonwhatI’mtestingforincoffee.Youwantittobeindependentlabs.Iendeduphavingtoworkingwiththelabstospecifythespecifictechnologiestofindthisversusthespecifictechnologiestofindthat,butIdon’twanttorunallthatstuff.It’sbettertogetthereportsfromathirdparty.Todd: Whenyouseealcoholonalabelit’slikelynotevencorrectandit’snotrequiredtobe.Finishinguponthelabel,comingbacktoyourquestion,webelieve..,Asyoupointedout,thepeoplewhohaveanactualSulphurallergyorallergytosulphidesisreally,reallytiny.Reallytiny.Dave: It’sprobablyaheadache,nottheotherallergicresponse.

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Todd: It’sreallytiny.Whatmostleadingscientistsbelieveandwebelieveisit’smorelikelyhistaminesandotherbioaminesthatarecausingfolkstofeelbad.Togiveyouanexamplewhyweknowit’snotsulphidesjustanecdotally.Peoplewhocomplainofwinemakingthemfeelbadusuallysaythattheycandrinkwhitewine,buttheycan’tdrinkreds.Infactsulphidesarehigherinwhitewinesthantheyareinredwines,buthistaminesarenot.Histamineinwinecomesfromcontactwiththeskinandnaturaltanninsincontactfromtheskin.Youraudiencemayknowormaynotknow,andyouprobablyknow,butifyousqueezejuicefromawhitegrapeandyousqueezejuicefromaredgrapethejuiceisclearfromboth.Redwinegetsitscolorfrommacerationorsoakingontheskins.Histamineiscreatedfromthatprocess. Histaminesareexacerbatedandexaggeratedbylongmacerationperiod,longsoaksontheskin.Thereasonthat’simportantisbecauseintheUS,maybeworldwide,butcertainlyintheUS,consumersbelievethatthedarkeraredwineisthebetterqualityitis.That’ssimplynottrue.Whatitistrueisthatit’sgoingtohavemorehistamineinitbecausethehistaminesarecreatedfromtheselongsoaks.Allofourwinesarenotsubjecttotheselongsoaks.Youcantastethedifference.Youcanseethatthey’reclear,thatthey’relighterincomposurebecausetheydon’thavethislongtermmaceration.Histaminetypicallycausespeopletohaveatightnessrightabovetheirnasal,righthere.Dave: Whereverthatmigrainestarts,thatone.Todd: Yeah,exactly.Toyourpoint,aswe’vediscusseditearlier,it’sreallythebioamineandother…Dave: Ittermsoutthere’sthreeorfourdifferentkindsofbiogenicamineswhichcancauseproblems.Funnyenoughthatsoakingperiodwiththefruitthatproduceshistamine,isthereanotherfruitthatmostoftheindustrysoaks?Yes,Ibelievewecallthatthecoffeecherry.DoIallowlongsoakingofBulletproofcoffeebeans?No,ourcoffeeprocessisdifferent.It’sacontinuousflow,non-washedcoffeeandit’snottraditionallyprocessedeither.It’stheBulletproofprocess.Wedothisbecausetheotherthingthatoccursinwineandincoffee,becauseit’sasimilarprocess,islet’ssee:yougetthebiogenicamines,it’shistamine,butit’salsoanevenworseonecalledtyramine.Thisisamajortriggerofmigraines.Yougettyramineinwine,yougettyramineincoffeeandyougethistamineincoffee.Guesswhat’snotinBulletproofcoffeebeans? Thisstuffmatters.YougotothereallyfinedetailandIfeelforyouman,becausehere’swhathappenswithwineandespeciallywithyourwine.Peopledrinkwine,theysay,“Ifeelbad,thereforeI’mallergictosulphides.”Peopledrinkcoffee,theyfeelbad,“ThereforeI’msensitivetocaffeine.”WhatI’mfindingismostofthetimeit’snottrue.What’sgoingonisyou’resensitivetohistamineoryou’resensitivetomicrotoxinsincoffeedependingonyoursymptomsandit’sthesameinwine.I[inaudible00:40:35]thatyou’vegonethroughthatprocessofwine.You’relike,“Okay,we’regoingtoeliminateallthesethingsbydoingthesetinylittlethingsthatnoonethoughtaboutdoingbefore.”YoucreateaglassofwineandsuddenlyIcandrinkitandIfeellikemyselfinsteadofallthisotherstuffthathappens.Let’stalkabouttheseotherthings.Wetalkedabouthistamine.Canyoutalkmoreabouttyramineandwherethatcomesfrominwine?Todd: It’sfromthesameprocessesoftheselongsoaksandmacerations.They’reallcomingfromthesameplace.Dave: It’smicrobialactionduringthelongsoakessentially.Thisisabyproductofthesethingsanditcomesfrombreakingdowndifferentaminoacidsthatarepresentinsmallamounts.It’sthesamething.

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Todd: It’sexactlythesamething.Letmeswitchgearsovertomicrotoxin.TheochratoxinA,allofourwinesarescreenedforochratoxinbecauseIknowyourcoffeeis.YouarealsoawarebecauseyouandIhaddiscusseditthatthelimitforochratoxinAinEuropeistwopartsperbillion.Dave: Forwine,you’reright.Todd: Yeah,forwine.Forcoffeeit’sfive,isthatcorrect?Dave: Correct.Itusedtobeeight,theyjustloweredittofivebecauseapparentlytheythinkitmatters.NotintheUSthough.IntheUSwejustdrinkit.Todd: There’snoscreeningintheUSforcoffeeorforwine.Dave: Ithoughttherewasalimitoflike15forwine,thereisno?That’sshocking.Todd: No,thereisnoscreening.It’snotrequired.Dave: USgovernment,wakethehelluponthisstuff.There’sareason,China…I’vebeentoChinamultipletimes,IloveChina,buttheChinesegovernmentisn’tknownfortakinggoodcareofitspeople.Thatsaid,theyhavegovernmentregulationsaroundochratoxinA.whatisgoingonintheUS?We’rewillingtotakethestuffrejectedbyJapan,ChinaandEuropewhenitcomestowineandwhenitcomestocoffeeandwe’rewillingtojustgiveittoourpeople.Thatactuallypissesmeoff.Todd: Here’swhatyou’llloveevenmore.ThereisochratoxinAscreeningonUSwineswhenthey’reexported.Therearecountriesthatrequireitbeforetheyallowthewinetocomeinthecountry,butitisnotscreenedforhereormonitoredintheUS.Dave: Thatishilarious.That’swhyuntilDryFarmscamealongI’mlike,“Allright,here’sthedeal,generallydon’tdrinkredwine.Ifyou’regoingtodrinkveryoldredwine,”orthere’sanothervineyardthatIrecommended,it’scalledFryeVineyards.It’stheonlyAmericanwinethatIwoulddrink,F-R-Y-E.ThereasonIliketheseguys,Iactuallywentoutthereandyou’resayinghippies.It’sabiodynamicfarmandyougothere,theentirewineryisbuiltofrecycledbuildings.Itlookslikeahomelessshelter.It’sgotallthesecrazybuildingsstucktogether.Everythinginsideitisrecycledandyougoforawinetastingandthey’relike…theyfindatwobyfourandsetinonsomebarrelsanddustitoffandsetsomewinethere. It’stheoppositeofanybigfancywineryI’veeverbeento,butIfoundIcoulddrinkabiodynamiconelikethatandIfeltokay.Notalways,butIfeltprettygoodtothepointthatifIwasgoingtogetawinecanIfindthisonerandomsmallthing,butIdon’tbelievetheyhavethequantificationthatyoudo.IknowwhenIdrinktheDryFarmsit’sdifferent,justlikeIfeeldifferentwhenIdrinkBulletproofcoffeebeansversusnormalcoffeebeansandthereisvariance.Yougotothiswinefromthisyear,yougetthiseffectandyoudon’tgetaheadacheoryoudogetaheadache.Youcandrinkthiswinefromthisyearfromthesameplace.You’relike,“Idon’tfeelgood.Iwanttogotosleep.”YoudotestforOTAinwineandyou’refindingthat…AreyoustandardsbetterthanEuropeanstandards?Aretheythesame?Whatdoyoudo?Todd: They’rethesame.

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Dave: Twopartsperbillion.Todd: I’veneverseenanythatapproachtwopartsperbillion.It’sjustthat’sthethreshold.Dave: WiththeagriculturalprocessesthatyouhaveinplaceIwouldexpectnotto.Thecoffeestandardsoffivepartsperbillion,mystandardsaretightereventhantwopartsperbillion,butit’sjusttoprovethatourprocess,whichissupposedtohavenoneorasclosetononeasyoucanget.There’snosuchscientificansweraspurezerobecauseoneparticleper50,000containerloadsisstillnoneandyouwouldneverdetectthatwithnormalsamplinganyway,buttogetitasclosetopossible,ourprocessisdesignedforthat.Theideathereisyouwantavery,verylowstandardandthefactthatyou’refindingbelowyourstandardisasignthatyourprocessworked.Ifyoufoundoutthestandardyou’dprobablystartmakingsomephonecalls.Todd: Let’sswitchgearsforasecondovertodosage.RememberwhenwefirstmetImentionedtoyouthisconceptofmicrodosingwhichishowweviewalcohol,thedrug.Alcohol’snotevenmydrugofchoice.Ithappenstobemyculturaldrugofchoice.Dave: I’mwithyouthere.Todd: Ijustlovewine,Ilovethewayittastes,Ilovetheexplorationaroundtheworld,Ilovetheadventure,butalcohol’sashittydrug.Assuchweneedtobeverycarefulandthinkwhatwedoistryandeducatepeopletohelpthemthinkaboutdrinkingandhowtousealcoholasaneffectivedrugforyourpleasure.TheUSgovernmentagain,Ihavetoreport,hasmisledyou.Dave: Shocking.Todd: Theydidthisbysaying,andyouprobablyheardthis,thegovernmentunderinfluencefromthealcoholindustryhassaid,“YoucanmeasurealcoholconsumptioninwhattheUSgovernmentcallsastandarddrinkunit.”Astandarddrinkunit,andallofyouraudiencesnodoubtheardthis-Dave: Youlearnthisinhighschool.Todd: Isthatabeer,aglassofwineandamixeddrinkareallthesameamountofalcohol.Haveyouheardofthat?Dave: It’snottrue,butI’veheardit.Todd: Clearlycategoricallyit’sfalse.In1987intheUKtheBritishgovernmentdevelopedawayofcommunicatingwiththeircitizenstohelpthemunderstandintoxicationandalcoholanditseffectonintoxicationinamorequantifiedway.It’stheformulathatwerecommend.Ifyougoonline,UKalcoholunits,you’llseeaWikipediapageonit,butI’mjustgoingtogiveyoutheshortmath.Inanalcoholunit,andwedon’twanttodrilltoofardownthewormholedownhere,Idon’twanttoconfuseanybody,butanalcoholunitintheUKis10millilitersofethylalcohol.Howyoucalculatethenumberofunitsinagivenalcoholicbeverageisyoutakethemilliliterstimesthealcoholbyvolumedividedby1,000.Letmejustbreakthatdownforyouveryquickly.IntheUSsincewe’reworkingwithounces,mostpeoplerelatetoouncesasopposedtomilliliters.Inordertogetthemillilitersyoutaketheouncestimes29.6andthatwillgiveyouthemilliliters.Inastandardglassofwine-

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Dave: HeyBrock,wouldyoubringthegraduatedcylinderfromoverthereattheBulletprooflab,justabovetheoven.I’mgoingtoshowpeoplewhoarewatchingusonYouTube,yeah,thatone,BulletproofExec.com/YouTubewilltakeyoutothechannelifyou’rejustlistening.Thisis100mills.Ifyoulookonthecamerahere,whatyou’llfindis…Thisisareasonableamountofalcohol.Thisis100.Tenmillsistheverybottomofthisthing.It’sactuallyquitesmall.Todd: Exactly.ThatiswhattheUKandwhatweconsiderthemosteffectivewaytoquantifyhowmuchalcoholthatyou’reconsuming.Onesingleunitistenmillilitersofethylalcohol.Fiveounces,whichisthestandardwineserviceis148milliliters.Whatyouwoulddoisyoutakethe148timestheamountofalcoholdividedby1,000.Ifit’sa12%winethatcomesto1.77unitsinafiveounceglassofwine.Dave: It’s1.77dosesofwine.Todd: Yes,undertheunitscale.Dave: Thisislessthanatablespoon,thetenmills.Thetablespoon’slike14ifIrememberright.Todd: You’reanexpert.Dave: Justfromthetopofmyhead.Itmaybedifferentforoilsandfats.There’sadensitythingandIcouldbeconfusinggrams.ThisisatinyamountisallI’msaying.Thisisonetenthoftwothirdsofthistubeifyoulookatit.It’swaylessthanyouthinkitis.Todd: Itis.Thisiswherewegetintowewanttostayinthathappyzone,theplacewhereyouhavejustanelevatedeuphoria,butstillveryclearcognitiveresponse.Notonlyjustresponse,butevenwiththatelevationofeuphoriayou’regettingalittlebitofincreaseinyourcreativeexpression.Dave: AlsoyougetaslightboostinmitochondrialactivityandATPproductionfromalcohol.There’sareasonthattheSaintBernardsthatdigyououtofavalanchesinthebooksfromthe1950s,theyhadalittlebarrelontheircollar.Thatbarrelhadbrandyinitanditwastheretoincreaseyourmitochondrialfunctionifyouareabouttofreezetodeath.Alcoholisn’talwaysbadinthoselittledosesespecially.Idon’tmindthat.Todd: Itjustdependsonthedose.Dave: Thedoseandthetoxinsthatareinitornotinitarethetwobigvariables.Andsugar,wedidn’ttalkaboutsugaryet.Todd: Dude,itwasjustonmymind,myheadwasblowingupoversugar.Dave: Let’stalkaboutsugar.Todd: Wedidn’teventalkaboutthat.It’ssoimportant,I’msugarfree,manyofyourlistenersaresugarfree.I’mreallyvigilant.Ithinksugarpersonallyispublicenemynumberonefollowedbyacoupleoftheotherwhitedevils,butsugar’sjustarealpoison.Sugar’salsoabigpartofwhatmakespeoplefeelbad.Inwinescategorically,andwetestforsugarandI’lltellyouaboutthatinamoment.Asweknow,wespokeaboutearlier,

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I’mketogenic,soI’msuper,supersugarfree.Inwinecategoricallysugarcanrangefromzeroto300gramsperliter.TogiveyouraudiencesomereferencetothatCoca-Colahas108gramsperliter.Dave: Someofthosesweetwinescanbelikedessertandthensome.Todd: Atthefarendofthescalewherewe’retalkingabout300gramsaliterinwinewe’retalkingabouticewinesanddessertwines.That’satthefarendofthespectrum.Formostwinesthey’regoingtobeinthesub20gramsperliterrangeandmanyofthemfivetotengramsperliter,whichisstillmoresugarthanIwanttoingest.Dave: It’saprettylowamount.Iactuallywouldn’tmind.Fivegramsperliter,ifIhaveaglassit’sonegramofsugarandI’mhavingalcohol.Thatwouldn’tbotherme,butIcouldseewhyyou’dwanttojustbeapuristaboutitandIwouldrespectthat.Todd: I’mafanaticaboutsugaralready.Dave: Sugar’snotagoodthing.Todd: Allofourwinesarelabtestedforsugar.It’soneofthekeythingswe'relookingfor.NoneofourwinescontainmorethanagramperliterandmostareunderhalfagramperliterwhichIthinkwecouldagreeisstatisticallysugarfree.Dave: Iwouldagreewithyouthere.Interestingnoteabouticewines.Icewinessoundsexy.Ice,itmustbemadewithicelikeicebearorsomething.Todd: Kindofmoldy,aren’tthey?Dave: They’remoldierthanhellbecausehere’showtheymakeanicewine.Theyleavethegrapesonuntilthefirsfreeze.They’restartingtospoilonthevineandthentheymakeasuperconcentratedwine.You’regettinglikeasyrupalmost.Theyalltasteamazing,nodoubt,becausethey’refullofsugarandit’ssuperdarkbecausethere’salongmaceration.Yougetthissyrupysupersweetsupermoldywine.Ifyouwanttogetaheadacheandahistamineresponsefromwinegetdrunkonicewineandseehowyoufeelthenextmorning.Thatisgoingtojustmessyouupintheworstpossibleway.Todd: Noquestionaboutit.Finishinguponthedosingthing,thereasonIliketofocuson,formyalcoholconsumptionandformicrodosing,thereasonIwanttofocusonlowalcoholwinesasopposedtospirits,alcoholisadominodrug.Ittendstopullyouin.Cocaine’sadominodrug.Itpullsyouin.Dave: Coffeeisadominodrug,itpullsyou…wait.Todd: No,Idon’tthinkso.Whenyourmicrodosingyou’renotbeingpulledoverintothatdangerspace.Dave: Youtakeinsmalldoses.Howmuchisamicrodoseofwine?Thistenmills,howmuchwinearewetalkingabout?Todd: TenmillilitersIconsidertodoamicrodose.Idoaboutoneofthoseanhour.

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Dave: Holdon,youdotenmillsofwineortenmillsofalcohol?Todd: No,ofwine…Ofanalcoholunit.Dave: That’saboutthreeouncesofyourtypicalwinethatyou’dbecarrying?Todd: Threetofiveouncesdependingupon-Dave: Threetofiveounces.Todd: Right.Dave: You’rewillingtodoonesmalltonormalsizeglassofwinedependingonthe…perhour.Todd: Anhour.Yourbody’sgoingtometabolizeaboutoneunitperhour.Abouttenmillilitersperhourfortheaverageperson.Asyouknowtherearevariablesforthatforgenderandsizeandage,butaverageruns,you’regoingtoclearthroughaboutoneunitanhour.Dave: Isthattrueifyou’reinketosis,becauseIjustfinishedaninterviewwithDoctorViechwho’sbeen47yearswithNIH,workedwithHansKrebsandwetalkedalittlebitaboutthat,abouthowketosismakesyounotprocessalcoholaswellassomeonewho’srunningmoreonaglucosebasedmetabolism.Doyoufindanyeffectsfromthat?Todd: Ifeelbetter.Ihavenoeffect.Ialsodosugarbloodandketoneblooddaily.Myobjectivereallyinketosis,asyouknowmanypeople,mostpeoplebeginketogenicdiettoshredweight,toloseweight.Dave: Orjusttofeelgood.Todd: Mostpeoplebegintoloseweight.Theyplateauedonlowcarbandtheywanttobreakthroughandpushthrough.Idon’thaveadesire,aneedtoloseweight.Istayinketosisbecausethebrainbuzzandthecognitivebenefits.Dave: It’swhatit’sallaboutforme.Todd: Andthefocusandhowitmakesmefeel.Idotesting,I’llfindnoimpactoneitherbloodsugarorketoneproductionfromourwines.I’venottested,Idon’tdrinkotherwines.Dave: It’safairpoint.Bytheway,I’mthesameway.Idrinkmycoffee,Idon’tdrinkothercoffeebecauseIdon’tlikehowIfeelonit.Youarethesamewithyouwineandwithyourwineyoudon’tfeelit.Otheroneyou’regoingtogetsugarandyou’regoingtogetsomeotherstuff.Ihearyouthere.Todd: Forme,ImeasurebloodsugarbecauseIbelieveasmanyfolksdothatinsulinandglucoseisreallytheunderlyingproblemwiththesadAmericandiet.YoucanavoidallthatbybeingBulletproof.Letmeskipovertoacoupleofthings.Oneismicrodosing.Thepsychologyoftheservingsize.Youwanttomakesurethatyourglass,whenyougoinarestaurantthey’regoingtofillyourglasstoohighbecausetheirjobistosellwine.

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Dave: They’regoingtogetyoudrunksoyouordermorestufftoo.Itworksprettywell.Todd: You’vegottocontrolthatpoursize.Ifyou’rebuyingawinebytheglassinarestaurantIjustaskforasecondglass,anemptyglass.TheIdoseoutasmallerpourbecauseitmakesmemoreconsciousofthewayI’mdrinkingit.Theotherhugebenefitisthatyouneedthatheadspaceintheglasstoproperlyexperienceawine’saromatics.Dave: Putalittlehint,frotherinthereanddoit.Todd: Youcoulddothat.Youwantmoreheadspace.Dave: TwodollarAmazon[inaudible00:57:19]thing.Todd: Italso,ifyouorderabottleofwineinarestaurantcontrolyourbody.Theserver’sobjectiveistopourheavypourstogetyoutobuyanotherbottle.it’sperfectlyacceptablewhenyou’reinarestaurant,it’sperfectlyacceptabletoletyourwaiterknowthatyou’llbeinchargeofyourpours.I’mgoingtotakecareofourbottle.Dave: That’saninterestingidea.That’llsaveyousomemoneyaswell,cool.Todd: It’sjustyouwanttobeabletocontrolyourbottlebecauseifnotyou’regoingtobeoverserved.Dave: Howmanyglassesdidyoudrinkifyoukeeptoppingupyourglass.Youhavenoideahowmuchyoudrank.Todd: Right,youwanttocontrolthatandyouwanttoletthatglassgodowntoemptyandthenputinasmallpourliketwo,threeouncessoyoucanexperiencethewineandyoucanexperienceitintheglass.Dave: I’mreallyhappyyousaidthat.Ineverthoughtabouthowirritatingitisinarestaurantwhenyourglasskeepsgettingfull.I’vethoughtaboutthis.Idon'tknowhowmuchIdrink,butIneverputtwoandtwotogether.Thatwasaconsciousmanipulationtomakemebuymorewine.Thanksforputtingthatout.That’scool.Todd: TherewasanarticleintheWallStreetJournalacoupleofmonthsagowherethewinewritertherewasjustrailingontherestaurantindustryoverthisissues.Ifindmostserversarejustprettydelightfulandtryingtodotheirthinginlife.Idon'tthinkit’sreallyconsciousontheirpart.Ifanythingtheyjustwanttobegenerous.Dave: They’retrainedthatway,absolutely.Theyknowpeoplelikewine.There’snothingwrongwiththat,butrestaurantsdoallsortsofunderhandedcraptomakeyoubuymorestuff.Iknow,Irunarestaurant.ThenumberoffoodpurveyorsthatsellMSGthatdoesn’thavetobelabeledasMSGbecauserestauranteursknowthatyouputthatin,thefoodtastesgood,peopleeatmore,butthentheybuydesertbecausethey’vegotasugarcraving.It’sbuiltintotherestaurantindustryanditmakesmemad.Todd: Lookatsaladdressings,talkaboutsugar.It’scrazy.Thewaiters,ourjobineducatingandcomingonshowslikeyoursandtryingtoreachouttothepublicissay,“We’vethoughtaboutthisandtherearesomesmartways…YouneedtothinkthisthroughandI’mgoingtohelpyouthinkaboutit.Thenexttimeyou’reina

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restaurantmaybeyou’lltakeadifferentapproachthatwillresultinadifferentoutcomeforyouandyourfamily.”Ourjobiseducation. Let’stalkaboutbeingoverservedforamoment,whatIcallgloriousexceptions.Thesethingshappen.Here’smyrecommendationforgloriousexceptionsandhere’swhengloriousexceptionscanmostoftenhappen.Weddings,birthdays,specialoccasions,nightoutwithyourbros.Thisiswhengloriousexceptionstendtohappenandthingsgetalittlebeyondourcontrol.Youcannormallyseethosethingscominginadvance.WhatIrecommendareafewthings.Firstofallthesinglemostimportantthingisyouhavetostayhydrated.Hydrationiscriticalandkey.Theproblem,it’storemembertostayhydrated.Oftentimesithelpstohavesomekindofreminder.SometimesI’llputabandaidonafingerorjustsomethingtoremindmeIneedtostayhydrated.Becauseit’seasytoforgetwhenyou’retumblingdownthatfindofgloriousness.Dave: IliketoputabottleofSaintPellegrino.Iknowit’srunbyabigevilconglomerate,butsorry,SaintPellegrino,it’sthebestbottledwaterthatdoesn’thavecrapinitthatyoucangetatmostrestaurants.It’sbetterthantapwateranditactuallytastesprettygood.Iwishadifferentcompanyownedit,buttheydon’t.IputabottleofPellegrinothereandifI’mgoingtodowineit’sactuallygoingtobeoneofyoursorit’sgoingtobeareallyexpensivebottleorI’mnotgoingtodoit,butthat’sgoingtobetheretoo.Here’sthetrick.Ifthereiswaterleftinthewaterbottle,butthere’snothingleftinthewinebottleyoudiditwrong.That’sgenerallyhowI’dgoaboutit.Todd: There,it’sagreatidea.It’sjustimportanttoremindpeopleit’ssupereasytoforget.You’vegottohavereminders,you’vegottostayhydrated.Numbertwo,ifIknowit’sgoingtobeabignight,IhatetoplugyouhereDave,butit’supgradedcharcoal.Dave: Thatstuffmattersifyou’regoingtobedrinking.Iwillnothavewinewithoutthat.Todd: Ofcourseitmatters.Ikeepasupplyhere.It’scharcoalandI’mgoingtodosomeBulletproofglutathionewhichIfindinthemorningparticularlythedayafterjustgivesmeaninstantboost.Ijustgetaheadrush.Idon'tknowifitdoesthistoeverybody,butIjustgetthisfeelingofrenewalfromyourglutathioneproduct.Ialsohappentolikethetasteforwhateverreason.Iknowyourpriorproductdidn’ttastesogood.Dave: Here’sthetruth.Thefirstglutathioneforce,thetastewassomewherearoundliquiddogfart.Itwashorrible,butitworkedsowellthatpeopleloveditanyway.Thenewstuffislikeyouactuallylikeit,it’s…Todd: Ithasanorangecinnamonnyflavor.Dave: Yeah,it’snotbad.Mykidseatit.Todd: Idon'tthinkit’sbadatall,butafteragloriouseventwhereI’vebeenalittlelessdisciplinedonmicrodosingIfindthenextmorningthatshotofyourglutathionejustpicksmeup.Definitelygottohitthecharcoalbeforeyougetstartedatnight.Dave: Icertainlystandbythoserecommendationsandthey’reintheBulletproofinfographicandarejustthingstodotofeelbetter.Todd,IaskedyoutoputtogethersomethingforBulletproofpeople.Ifyou’relisteningtothiswe’regoingtogiveoutacodesoyoucangetabottleofthewineforonecent.Here’sthedeal.I’mgoingtogiveoutaURL.Bytheway,Iwillmakesomethingoffthat.Idon'tknowhowmuchbecausethat’snotwhyI

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dothisshow,butifyou’reuncomfortablewiththefactthatthatisanaffiliateofferI’llgiveyouaURLattheendwhereyoucanmakesurethatIgetnothingfromit.IdoappreciatebeingabletopayBrockandalltheproductioncostsoftheshowandallthatstuff.I’llliveifyoudon’tusetheBulletproofcode,butI’mgratefulifyoudo.What’sthecodeforpeopletogetabottle-Todd: Wehavetwocodes.WehavetheonepennyspectacularDryFarmwine’slabquantifiedhealthybiohackedwineforonepenny.YoucangetthatatthelandingpageDriveFarmWines.com/Bulletproof.That’sDryFarmWines.com/Bulletproof.Ifyoudon’twantDavetogetpaidanythingforthisaffiliatereachyoucangotoDryFarmWines.comandjustplaceanorderandDavewillreceivenothing.WehopethatDavegetssomethingbecausewereallylovetheworkthatDavedoes.LetmestoponthatforonesecondandsayonbehalfofmillionsofpeopleIwanttosayaheartfeltsincerethankyoufortheworkthatyoudo.Ifollowedyouforyearsandyears. WhenIsayreallyasincerethankyouhere’swhatIgetfromtheworkthatyoudothatissoimportanttome.Yourinfographics,thewaythatyou’reabletodeconstructcomplicatedtopics,yourknowledgebasetoguidepeoplelikemewhoarenotresearchersandnotscientists,thewayyoucompresscomplextopicsintoeasytounderstandsoundbites.I’lltellyoutheoneIsawjustmorerecently,yourvideos.Isawyourvideotheotherweekongrassfedbeefandorganicbeef.Dude,itwassoawesomebecauseyoutookthisreally…Thewayyoulaidouttheseinfographicsandyouhadthesecolumnedrecommendationsandbrokeitdown,ifyouwanttothis,okay,youcangoonestepdownandit’snotasgoodanditlookslikethis.Deconstructingthesecomplextopicsandbringingthatinformationtogetherinasimplematterisreallyaspecialtalentthatmostpeopledon’thave.Onbehalfofeverybodywholovesyouandfollowsyouthankyouforthatgreatwork.Dave: Toddthanks,Iappreciatethat.IspendalotoftimeonthoseinfographicsbecauseIwasateacherforfiveyearsofreallycomplextopicsattheuniversityofCalifornia.Beingabletojustmakeitsoyoudon’thavetobuytheBulletproofdiet,youjustgettheinfographicandyou’vegottheskeleton.Youcanflushitoutandyoucanlearnallthestufforyoucanjusttakethatandputitonyourfridge.Itdidn’tcostyouanythingbutthecostofyourownprinterpaper.Thenyoubenefitandthat’sthepoint,becausenoonegavemethatstuffwhenIwas16whenIcouldhavereallybenefitted.It’smyrevengeontheworld.Here,justhavethat.Here’sthetoolsandmaybeitisandmaybeyouwon’t.Iappreciatethatit’shelptoyouandthanksfortellingme. Likewise,Ireallyappreciatethatyoudidwantyoudidforwine.Thecoffeeindustryisstillupinarmsabouttoxinsincoffeedon’tmatter.Respectfullymostoftheworldgovernmentsdisagreewithyouguys,butthat’scool.Saying,“I’mgoingtodowhatI’mgoingtodoandI’mjustgoingtobeobsessivelypureaboutit,”it’smadeadifferenceinmylifeandIhearallthetimepeoplewhocan’tdrinkcoffeeacceptmine.Allrightfine.Maybewe’reallplaceboheads,allright,I’mgoodwiththattoo,exceptthat’snotwhatthelabssay. Inyourcase,you’vedonethesamethingforwine.ActuallyIdidn’tthinkthatwasprobablypossible,whichiswhyIdidthinkthreeyearsago,“MaybeIshoulddosomethingwithwine.”I’mlike,“Yeah,alcohol’snotthatgoodforyou.”Idon'tthinkitcanreallybedoneandthat’sjustahardindustrytocrack.HereImeetyouacoupleofyearslater,youcrackedtheindustry,youdiditandtheonlypeopleIthinkaregoingtohaveahardtimedrinkingyourwinearepeoplewhohavesevereproblemswithyeast.Forthosepeopleanything,includingapplecidervinegarmightnotbeagoodthing.Inthatcasetheyneedtofixtheiryeastproblemandonceit’sfixedtheycanprobablytoleratewinejustfine.

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Theymayneedtoletsomeautoimmunethingsettledownforafewmonthsorevenayear,butIusedtohaveatonofyeastallergieslikethatandIusedtohavecandidaproblemsandthosearegoneandyoucanfixthose.Funny,doesaketogenicdietmakeitharderforyeast?Yeah,itdoes.Ifyou’redoingthiswholelifestylethingIamactuallypleasedtobeabletoreintroducewineinlowdosesonaconsciousbasiswithouttellingmyself,“Dudetohellwithfood.I’mgoingtomakeawinesmoothieeverymorning.I’mgoingtopoundthisandI’mgoingtogetswell.”Thatcrap,itdoesn’tworkandthat’snothowitisandIwishitwasthatway.Hatsofftoyouforjustbeingthenitpickingassholeinthebestpossibleway.Iamuncompromisinginmystandards.I’mjustgoingtodoittherightwayandIdon’tcareifyoulikeit.Todd: I’mfanatical.Dave: Yeah,it’swhatittakes.Todd: Listen,livingintheNapaValleyyoucanbesureitdoesn’talwaysmakemethemostpopularguyatthetable.Dave: Doyouevergetdeaththreats?Todd: No,no,no.It’saverylovingplace.It’sagreatcommunity.Everybodydrinksdifferentthings.Dave: IhadachancetomeetJennyJacksonatBusinessRockStarsatthestudio.She’soneoftheKendalJacksonfamily.Wehadagreatconversationaboutwine.Justareallykindheartedlovingperson.IwasappreciativethatKenRotkowskifromBusinessRockStarsjustintroducedus.ShetriedalittlebitofBulletproofchocolatewithsomeredwineandIdranksomeofherwine.Itwasdelicioustheoneshebrought,aspecialreserve.Wineisapartofourculture.I’mactuallyreallyhappythatyoudiditright.I’mgrateful.Todd: Thanksman,Iappreciatethat.Dave: I’vegotonemorequestiontoaskyou.Thequestionistheoneyou’reprobablyexpectingbecauseyou’veheardtheshowbeforeandhopefullydidn’tpreparetoomuchaheadoftime,butifsomeonecametoyoutomorrowandsaid,“IwanttokickmoreassateverythingIdo,Iwanttobeabetterhumanbeing.Whatareyourtopthreerecommendationsforkickingmoreassatlife?”whatwouldyoutellthem?Todd: I’mgoingtofinishuponthisone.Ihavegivenitsomethought.Dave: Youpreparedahead.Todd: Iprobablylistenedtomorethan100ofyourshows.I’mabigfan.Iobviouslyknewaboutthethreequestions.Ipracticealotofbiohacking,non-traditionalformsoflifeoptimization,coalthermogenesis,WimHoffbreathing,ketogenic,intermittentfasting.I’mextremeonandfanaticalonmostallaccounts.Buttomethenumberonebiohackofalltimeismeditation.Meditationisthefoundationforeverythingthatmovesforward.Meditationisourability,andIwanttotalkjustasecond,meditationisourabilitytomanagethetraumaofthinking.Tomanagethetranceofthepastortheanxietyofthefuture.ThereasonIsaymeditation’sthesinglemostimportantthing,althoughit’sdifficulttogetpeopletodoit,thereasonit’sthesinglemostimportantthingisbecauseitsetsthechannelofflowandpeaceforeverythingelsethatyouwanttoaccomplish.

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Numbertwo,poweryourbodyandmindusingfoodasmedicine.ThebestwaytodothatmyfriendsisgoBulletproof.OnpoweringyourbodythemostrecentbookthatIreadonthetopicthat’sbecomeastandardoflifeoptimizationforpoweringmybodythroughenduranceisMarkSisson’snewbookcalledPrimalEndurance.Idon'tknowifyou’vereadit,but…Dave: Yeah,IsoappreciateMark’swork.MarkissosolidandIrealallofhisbooks.Irecommendthemabsolutely.Todd: Hisrecentbookisthisamazingdeconstructionofperformanceenduranceandreallyaboutslowingyourfitnessdown.Dave: Bytheway,ifyoutakeMark’snewmayonnaiseandyoujustsmearitalloveryourbodyyou’llperformbetter.Thatisreallygoodmayonnaise.I’vejustgotosay.GoodworkMark.Todd: Numberthree,I’mgoingtocloseuponthis,butnumberthree,killfearandbebold.WhatImeanbythatisbeingboldandacceptingchangeanduncertainty,failureandadversity.Dave: ItsoundsalmostlikeyouandIwerehangingoutatthePeterDiamandisabundance360conference,theguywhowroteBoldtheBook.Todd: HedidreadBoldtheBook.I’vegottoplugStevenColterforRisetoSupermantoo.Dave: Butwewereallhangingout.Todd: Atflowstate.Dave: WewerehangingoutwithPeterDiamandisdrinkingyourwinenotsolongago.It’sfunnythatyouplantobolt.Todd: It’sjustafewweeksagoinfact.Itwasagreatconference.LetmefinishuponnumberthreeherebecauseIknowwe’regoinglong.Onthelastlistofbeingboldandkillingfeariscriticism.We’vegottobeabletoembracecriticism,particularlyourinternalcriticism.That’sthestorythatwetellourselvesaboutwhoweare.Wecanchangethatstoryandreinventthatstoryanytimewewant.Wejusthavetohavethedesireanddirectiontochangethatnarrativethatwetellourselves.Whenwedowecandampendownthatself-criticism.Ifindmeditationisthemosteffectiveway. FinallyfortheexteriorcriticswhoIknowyouknowalotabout,anybodywhodoesanythingtochangeanythingorcontributetoanyoneknowsaboutexternalcritics.Here’swhatItellyouaboutanexternalcritic.Anexternalcritichasaninsidestorythat’scomparingthemtoyouroutside.There’ssomethingaboutyouroutsideinsideofthemthatmakesthemuncomfortable.Italmosthasnothingtodowithyou.It’sallaboutthem.Wejusthavetoframeitthatwayandignoreit.Thenclosingup,finallyIwanttosay…Iwanttoclose,you’veheardthisbefore,butforyourlistenerswhohavenotIthinkit’sreallypowerfulandIwanttoclosewiththis.It’spartofthespeechfrom1910withTheodoreRoosevelt,thepresident.Dave: Iknowthisone.

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Todd: Iknowyou’veheardthis,butit’spowerfulforthosewhohaven’torthose…everytimeIthinkaboutititcausesmetofeelgreat.Letmestarttherecital.It’snotlong.It’snotthecriticwhocounts,notthemanwhopointsouthowthestrongmanstumblesorwherethedoerofgooddeedscouldhavedonethembetter.Thecreditbelongstothemanwho’sactuallyinthearena,whosefaceismarredbydust,sweatandblood.Whostridesvaliantly,whoairs,whocomesshortagainandagain.Becausethereisnoeffortwithouterrorandshortcomings.Butwhodoesactuallystrivetodothedeeds,whoknowsgreatenthusiasms,thegreatdevotions,whospendshimselfonaworthycause.Whoatthebestintheendknowsthetriumphofhighachievementandwhoattheworst,ifhefails,atleastfailswhiledaringgreatlysothathisplaceshallneverbewiththosecoldandtimidsoulswhoknowneithervictoryordefeat.Dave,peaceoutmybrother.Thanksforhavingmeontodayandtoyourlistenerskillfearandbebold.Dave: Todd,thankyouforanawesomeepisodeofBulletproofRadioandthanksforyourwork.Todd: Allright,talktoyousoon.Dave: Talktoyousoon.Ifyoulikedtoday’sepisode,andyouhavetolikethis.Howcouldyounotenjoythis?Wejusttoldyouhowtodrinkwine,youknowwhattodo.CheckouttheDryFarmWines.com/BulletprooflinkbecauseI’mgoingtoforgetthatinaboutfiveminutes.I’malsogoingtomaketheoppositeoneforyou.BulletproofExec.com/Winewillforwardyoutotherightplace.Eitherwayit’llgetyoutheresoyougetabottleforacent.Ifyoudon’twanttodothatatallandyou’relike,“Dave,IamoneofthosepeoplewhoisnotinthearenaandIhaveacoldheartandIamabadpersonandmymotherdidn’tloveme”orwhateveryourinternalstoryisman,I’mgoingtojustleavethatwithyou.ThenyoujustgotoDryFarmWines.comandjustordersomestuff. Ifyou’regoingtodrinkredwine,thisisactuallyreallygood.Wedidn’ttalkaboutthisontheshow,butalcohol’sjustrecentlydiscoveredeffectonthegammaBreceptor.ThisisaninterestingbiohackandIhavenoproblemswithusingwinethat’scleanatthesedoses.IbelievethatisaBulletproofpracticeandonethatcanimprovethequalityofyourlifebecauseitimprovesthequalityoffun.Thisisabigthingforme.I’vebasicallybeensayingforalongtimeinallofmy…Don’tdrink,it’sjustbadforyou,andIjustshiftedbasedonTodd’swork.Idon’tdothislightlyandIdon’tdothisthingthatoften,butIamwillingtoreconsidermyopinions.I’lltellyou,ifyou’regoingtodothistherearemeritstoitandit’sworth. Thanksforlisteningandthanksforlikingtheshow.Hopefullythishasbeenvaluableforyouandthisletsyouaddsomethingbacktoyourlifethatmaybeyoumissed.Haveagreatday.