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April 28th, 2011 Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal- to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan Ritt

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Page 1: April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan

April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Paul Scherrer Institute

The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing

Stefan Ritt

Page 2: April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan

Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Timing measurement

How can we measure timing in an optimal system?

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

The ideal digitized signal

•No noise•Always same height•Derive time from thresholdcrossing with interpolation

•No noise•Always same height•Derive time from thresholdcrossing with interpolation

Threshold

Timing determined by “aperture jitter”Timing determined by “aperture jitter”

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Aperture jitter

Datasheet AD9222 (Analog Devices)

PLL

Switched CapacitorArray

Switched CapacitorArray

Flash ADCFlash ADC

• Determined by write switch jitterplus inverter jitter

• Measurements indicate typicalvalue 2-5 ps for current designs

• Determined by write switch jitterplus inverter jitter

• Measurements indicate typicalvalue 2-5 ps for current designs

• Data sheet: <1ps• Measured indirectly though

side-band of sine signal• AD Application Note AN501:

50fs (clk) + 190fs (ADC)

• Data sheet: <1ps• Measured indirectly though

side-band of sine signal• AD Application Note AN501:

50fs (clk) + 190fs (ADC)

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Aperture jitter of clock distribution

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

The varying digitized signal

•Signals with different amplitudetrigger at different times(“time walk”)

•Signals with different amplitudetrigger at different times(“time walk”)

Upper threshold

•Time walk correction•Multi-level threshold•Constant-fraction discrimination

•Time walk correction•Multi-level threshold•Constant-fraction discrimination

Lower threshold

J.-F. Genat et al., arXiv:0810.5590 (2008)

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Effects of analog BW

How does the analog bandwidth affect the timing ?

Page 8: April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan

Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Realistic signal with noise

voltage noiseband of signal

timing jitter arising from voltage noise

timing jitter is much smallerfor fasterrise-time

Effect of rise timeEffect of rise time

Noise

Timing

Noise affects timing!Noise affects timing!

Page 9: April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan

Nyquist-Shannon Theorem

If a function x(t) contains no frequencies higher than F Hertz, it is completely determined by giving its ordinates at a series of points spaced 1/2F seconds apart.

• If a detector produces frequencies up to 500 MHz (0.6 ns rise time), all information from that detector is recorded if sampled at 1 GSPS with good enough signal-to-noise (SNR) ratio

• Sampling speed above Nyquist adds redundant points which improve the SNR

Nyquist-Shannon fulfilledNyquist-Shannon fulfilled Nyquist-Shannon not fulfilledNyquist-Shannon not fulfilled

Page 10: April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago Paul Scherrer Institute The role of analog bandwidth and signal-to-noise in timing for waveform digitizing Stefan

Does higher sampling speed help?

11.04.23PSI,

• Higher sampling speed adds only redundant points if Nyquist is fulfilled

• If noise comes from chip → reduce noise √2• Equivalent to double sampling of points

• Higher sampling speed adds only redundant points if Nyquist is fulfilled

• If noise comes from chip → reduce noise √2• Equivalent to double sampling of points

=

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

How is timing resolution affected?

voltage noise u

timing uncertainty tsignal height U

rise time tr

dBss

r

sr

rrr

ffU

u

f

t

U

u

ft

t

U

ut

nU

ut

U

ut

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1

number of samples on slope

dBr ft

33

1

Simplified estimation!Simplified estimation!

uΔt=U

tr

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

How is timing resolution affected?

dBs ffU

ut

33

1

U u fs f3db t100 mV 1 mV 2 GSPS 300 MHz ∼10 ps

1 V 1 mV 2 GSPS 300 MHz 1 ps

100 mV 1 mV 20 GSPS 3 GHz 0.7 ps

1V 1 mV 10 GSPS 3 GHz 0.1 ps

today:

optimized SNR:

next generation:

includes detector noise in the frequency region of the rise time

and aperture jitter

next generationoptimized SNR:

How to achieve this?

Assumes zeroaperture jitter

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Stefan Ritt

• S/N ratio goes linearly into timing resolution!• Analog BW and sampling speed will soon hit some “hard” limits

(3-5 GHz, ~20 GSPS)• Preamplifier makes sense if detector noise is smaller than SCA

internal noise• In the end, higher timing resolution will be the battle of noise

→ Eric’s talk tomorrow

Effect of S/N

April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

PCB

Det. f SCA ADC€

S /N =(S * f )2

(Nsource * f )2 +NSCN

2

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

What limits the BW?

Which are the crucial points in the signal chain?

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Stefan Ritt

PCB

April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

• Detector (covered in next talks)• Connector (LEMO connector has a BW of ∼500 MHz)• Cable (RG58: 5 m has a -3db BW of 1 GHz)• PCB• Preamplifier• Chip package• On-chip bus• Analog cell switch• Storage capacitor

Signal Chain

Det.Chip

f3db =1

2πRC

Cpar

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Amplifier

Cpar

750 MHz750 MHz

∼40pF

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Stefan Ritt April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Effects from the chip

→ Tomorrow’s talk

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Stefan Ritt

Conclusions

April 28th, 2011Timing Workshop, Chicago

Optimize BW of

detector

Optimize BW of

transmission

Optimize S/N for

digitization

Fit digitization

B/W to signal

Fulfill Nyquist-Shannon

dBs ffU

ut

33

1