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Technical Committee on Foam-Water Sprinklers
M E M O R A N D U M
DATE: February 27, 2017
TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Foam-Water Sprinklers
FROM: Dave Hague, Principal Fire Protection Engineer/NFPA Staff Liaison
SUBJECT: AUT-FOW AGENDA PACKAGE – F2018 First Draft Meeting
________________________________________________________________________
Enclosed is the agenda for the First Draft meeting for NFPA 16, Standard for the Installation of Foam-
Water Sprinkler and Foam-Water Spray Systems. NFPA 16 has entered the Fall 2018 revision cycle. The
purpose of this meeting is to resolve all of the Public Inputs that have been submitted for NFPA 16.
Please review the attached public input and re-org draft prior to the meeting. If you have alternate
suggestions for text changes, please come prepared with the language and appropriate substantiation.
For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) 984-7952. For technical
questions, please feel free to contact me at (617) 984-7273. You can also reach either of us via e-mail at
[email protected] or [email protected].
Table of Contents
Part 1 - Meeting Agenda
Part 2 - Committee Address List
Part 3 – F2014 Second Draft Meeting Minutes
Part 4 - F2018 Cycle Dates
Part 5 – NFPA 16 Public Input
Part 6 – Re-org Draft (one with track changes, one without track changes)
FIRST DRAFT MEETING
NFPA Technical Committee
on
Foam-Water Sprinkler Systems
March 8, 2017
AGENDA
1. Web‐Meeting Initiated (1:00 PM) (Hague)
2. Roll Call (1:05 PM) (Hague)
3. Review of Distributed Meeting Materials (Hague)
4. Approval of 2nd Draft Meeting Minutes (Caputo)
5. Review of NFPA 16 Public/Committee Input (Caputo)
6. Next Meeting/Assignments (Caputo)
7. Adjournment (Caputo)
Address List No PhoneFoam-Water Sprinklers AUT-FOW
Automatic Sprinkler Systems
David R. Hague02/27/2017
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Robert G. Caputo
ChairFire & Life Safety America21992 East Camacho RoadQueen Creek, AZ 85142
IM 11/30/2016AUT-FOW
Terry L. Victor
SecretaryTyco/SimplexGrinnell3621 Carrollton RoadUpperco, MD 21155Alternate: Jason E. Vermeulen
M 1/1/1989
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Michael E. Aaron
PrincipalWiss Janney Elstner Associates, Inc.10 South Lasalle Street, Suite 2600Chicago, IL 60603
SE 4/16/1999AUT-FOW
V Frank Bateman
PrincipalICL Phos-Chek Performance Products LP1137 Rainbow DriveMartinez, CA 94553-4741
M 10/28/2008
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Tracey D. Bellamy
PrincipalTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339-3084Alternate: Joseph P. Keltos
SE 7/1/1994AUT-FOW
William F. Blackmon
PrincipalPirelli North AmericaPO Box 1509Brentwood, TN 37024
U 10/27/2005
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Kevin F. Carrier
PrincipalMiami-Dade Fire Rescue DepartmentFire Prevention DivisionFire Engineering & Water Supply Bureau11805 SW 26th Street, Suite 150Miami, FL 33175
E 7/14/2004AUT-FOW
Nicholas A. Dawe
PrincipalCobb County Fire Marshal’s Office1595 County Services ParkwayMarietta, GA 30008
E 10/28/2008
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David L. Dixon
PrincipalSecurity Fire Protection4495 Mendenhall Road (38141)Memphis, TN 38141National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorAlternate: John L. Hulett
IM 1/1/1988AUT-FOW
Larry J. Edwards
PrincipalF. E. Moran, Inc.Special Hazard Systems2265 Carlson DriveNorthbrook, IL 60062Alternate: Andrew Aleksich
IM 3/21/2006
AUT-FOW
Henry Fontana
PrincipalUnited Fire Protection527 Newark Avenue1st FloorKenilworth, NJ 07033-1643
IM 08/03/2016AUT-FOW
Robert M. Gagnon
PrincipalGagnon Engineering2660 Daisy RoadWoodbine, MD 21797
SE 4/1/1994
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Scott D. Henderson
PrincipalAllianz Global Corporation & Specialty7 Hilltop Farm RoadAuburn, MA 01501-3325Alternate: James S. Crews
I 1/14/2005AUT-FOW
Robert Lee Holcombe, III
PrincipalGlobal Asset Protection Services, LLC512 Squire CircleClemson, SC 29631Alternate: Luis F. Arango
I 7/16/2003
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Automatic Sprinkler Systems
David R. Hague02/27/2017
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Kirk W. Humbrecht
PrincipalPhoenix Fire Systems, Inc.744 West Nebraska StreetFrankfort, IL 60423-1701Fire Suppression Systems AssociationAlternate: Edward G. Hugill
M 7/1/1995AUT-FOW
J. Robert Ivey
PrincipalNational Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669Education Fund7050 Oakland Mills Road, #100Columbia, MD 21046United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryAlternate: Joseph R. Mathews
L 7/26/2007
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Robert Kasiski
PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102
I 7/26/2007AUT-FOW
Dale H. Kolisch
PrincipalLiberty Mutual Property27201 Bella Vista Parkway, Suite 210Warrenville, IL 60555-1619
I 3/4/2008
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Scott T. Martorano
PrincipalThe Viking Corporation210 North Industrial Park RoadHastings, MI 49058
M 10/27/2009AUT-FOW
J. Jeffrey Moore
PrincipalJENSEN HUGHES689 Park AvenueCincinnati, OH 45246-2115JENSEN HUGHES
SE 03/03/2014
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Bob D. Morgan
PrincipalFort Worth Fire Department1000 Throckmorton StreetFort Worth, TX 76102
E 3/21/2006AUT-FOW
Jeramie W. Morris
PrincipalThe Dow Chemical CompanyMichigan Operations1790 Building Office 241Midland, MI 48667
U 03/03/2014
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Thomas L. Multer
PrincipalReliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.1470 Smith Grove RoadLiberty, SC 29657-4305National Fire Sprinkler AssociationManufacturer
M 08/03/2016AUT-FOW
Randy R. Nelson
PrincipalVFS Fire and Security Services501 West Southern AvenueOrange, CA 92865-3217American Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Byron Weisz
IM 10/4/2001
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Maurice M. Pilette
PrincipalMechanical Designs Ltd.67 Chouteau AvenueFramingham, MA 01701-4259
SE 1/1/1993AUT-FOW
Austin G. Prather
PrincipalHayden and Company10328 IH-37Corpus Christi, TX 78410NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section
M 10/28/2008
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Automatic Sprinkler Systems
David R. Hague02/27/2017
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Paul E. Rivers
Principal3M Company3M Center, Building 236-1B-07St. Paul, MN 55144-1000
M 1/16/1998AUT-FOW
Blake M. Shugarman
PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: Jerauld R. Kirkpatrick
RT 11/2/2006
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Jeffery W. Sutton
PrincipalTUV SUD America Inc./Global Risk Consultants Corporation350 Highway 7, Suite 220Excelsior, MN 55331-3170
SE 3/21/2006AUT-FOW
Kevin M. Wypychoski
PrincipalPrecision Mechanical Services, Inc.PO Box 79Guilford, CT 06437
IM 3/4/2009
AUT-FOW
Andrew Aleksich
AlternateF. E. Moran, Inc.Special Hazard Systems2265 Carlson DriveNorthbrook, IL 60062Principal: Larry J. Edwards
IM 10/29/2012AUT-FOW
Luis F. Arango
AlternateGlobal Asset Protection Services, LLC21707 Shallow Glen LaneKaty, TX 77450-5489Principal: Robert Lee Holcombe, III
I 7/16/2003
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James S. Crews
AlternateAllianz Global Corporation & Specialty1222 Rising Moon TrailSnellville, GA 30078-7395Principal: Scott D. Henderson
I 04/08/2015AUT-FOW
Edward G. Hugill
AlternateAmerex/Janus Fire Systems1102 Rupcich Drive, Millennium ParkCrown Point, IN 46307Fire Suppression Systems AssociationPrincipal: Kirk W. Humbrecht
M 8/2/2010
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John L. Hulett
AlternateWestern States Fire Protection Company7020 South Tucson WayCentennial, CO 80112-6791National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorPrincipal: David L. Dixon
IM 10/29/2012AUT-FOW
Joseph P. Keltos
AlternateTelgian Corporation551 Eric LaneLanding, NJ 07850Principal: Tracey D. Bellamy
SE 3/4/2008
AUT-FOW
Jerauld R. Kirkpatrick
AlternateUl LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096UL LLCPrincipal: Blake M. Shugarman
RT 08/11/2014AUT-FOW
Joseph R. Mathews
AlternateSprinkler Fitters Local 692 JATC14004 McNulty RoadPhiladelphia, PA 19154United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryPrincipal: J. Robert Ivey
L 7/23/2008
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Automatic Sprinkler Systems
David R. Hague02/27/2017
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Jason E. Vermeulen
AlternateTyco Fire Suppression ProductsOne Stanton StreetMarinette, WI 54143-2542Principal: Terry L. Victor
M 10/23/2013AUT-FOW
Byron Weisz
AlternateCen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc.PO Box 1284Lodi, CA 95241-1284American Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Randy R. Nelson
IM 03/05/2012
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David R. Hague
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Assocation1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
3/18/2016
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SECOND DRAFT MEETING
NFPA Technical Committee on
Foam-Water Sprinkler
Web-Based Meeting and Conference Call
Call-In Information:
(Toll Free):1-855-747-8824
Participant Code: 856438
Tuesday March 4, 2014
11:00 AM ET - 12:30 PM ET
MINUTES
1. The meeting was called to order by Technical Committee (TC) Chair Robert Caputo
at 11:00 AM ET. Attendees connected to the meeting both over the phone and
through the web-based meeting link.
2. NFPA staff took roll call and reviewed the distributed material in the agenda.
3. The TC approved the F2014 FD Meeting Minutes.
4. NFPA Staff reviewed the new standards development process with the TC and
provided guidance on the terminology used to make motions and create second
revisions.
5. The technical committee reviewed the public comments that were included in the
agenda package.
6. No new business was discussed and no new task groups were formed.
7. The meeting was adjourned at 12:45 PM ET by TC Chair Robert Caputo.
Fall 2018 Revision Cycle
Process Stage Process Step Dates for TCDates for TC
with CC
Public InputStage (First Draft)
Public Input Closing Date* 1/05/2017 1/05/2017
Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 6/15/2017 3/16/2017
Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 8/03/2017 4/27/2017
Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 8/24/2017 5/18/2017
Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot - recirc 8/31/2017 5/25/2017
Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 6/01/2017
Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 7/13/2017
Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 8/03/2017
Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 8/24/2017
Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot - recirc 8/31/2017
Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 9/07/2017 9/07/2017
Comment Stage(Second Draft)
Public Comment Closing Date* 11/16/2017 11/16/2017
Notice Published on Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot.
Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)
Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 5/17/2018 2/08/2018
Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 6/28/2018 3/22/2018
Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 7/19/2018 4/12/2018
Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot - recirc 7/26/2018 4/19/2018
Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 4/26/2018
Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 6/07/2018
Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 6/28/2018
Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 7/19/2018
Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot - recirc 7/26/2018
Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 8/02/2018 8/02/2018
Tech SessionPreparation (&
Issuance)
Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 8/30/2018 8/30/2018
Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 10/11/2018 10/11/2018
Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 10/26/2018 10/26/2018
SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 11/05/2018 11/05/2018
Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/20/2019 6/20/2019
Appeals andIssuance
Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 7/10/2019 7/10/2019
SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/07/2019 8/07/2019
TC = Technical Committee or PanelCC = Correlating Committee
As of 1/27/2017
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Public Input No. 7-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. 2.3 ]
2.3 Other Publications.
2.3.1 ASME Publications.
American Society of Mechanical Engineers ASME International , Two Park Avenue, New York, NY10016-5990.
Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, Section VIII, Division 1, Rules for Construction of Pressure Vessels,1998 2017 .
2.3.2 ASTM Publications.
ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.
ASTM SI10, Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): The Modern Metric System, 1997edition 2010 .
2.3.3 Other Publications.
Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current SDO name and editions.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 8-NFPA 16-2016 [Section No. C.1.2]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Jul 01 01:02:55 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 16-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after 5.11.2.1 ]
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5.11.2.1 Strainers shall be provided for foam concentrate lines where required by the manufacturer.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Not all manufacturers require or recommend strainers in the concentrate line. Ansul does not recommend strainers on concentrate lines between bladder tanks and proportioners or between atmospheric tanks and eductors, it is also noted that they are note shown in the appendix drawings of NFPA 16 for these systems. Ansul does not recommend concentrate strainers between atmospheric tanks and pumps suction when using non-Newtonian agents. However, when a strainer isn’t provided, the concentrate piping must be installed to allow it to be disassembled during routine maintenance required by NFPA 25 and visually inspected for obstructions and corrosion.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 09:58:38 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 17-NFPA 16-2016 [ Sections 5.11.2.1, 5.11.2.2, 5.11.2.3, 5.11.2.4 ]
Sections 5.11.2.1, 5.11.2.2, 5.11.2.3, 5.11.2.4
5.11.2.1 .1
Where listed strainers of the proper size are not available, strainers that have a ratio of open-basket area toinlet pipe size of at least 10:1 shall be used.
5.11.2. 1. 2
Strainers shall be capable of removing all solids of a size that would obstruct system components.
5.11.2. 1. 3
Perforations shall be no larger than the smallest orifice in the system and no less than 1⁄8 in. (3.2 mm).
5.11.2. 1. 4
Strainers shall be installed so as to be accessible for cleaning (flushing) while maintaining systemdischarge during an emergency.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
revise numbering for new section 5.11.2
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:01:22 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 19-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after 5.12 ]
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5.11.2.2 Where strainers are not provided, foam concentrate piping shall be installed with fittings that willallow disassembly to perform a visual inspection of the internal condition of the pipes.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Not all manufacturers require or recommend strainers in the concentrate line. Ansul does not recommend strainers on concentrate lines between bladder tanks and proportioners or between atmospheric tanks and eductors, it is also noted that they are note shown in the appendix drawings of NFPA 16 for these systems. Ansul does not recommend concentrate strainers between atmospheric tanks and pumps suction when using non-Newtonian agents. However, when a strainer isn’t provided, the concentrate piping must be installed to allow it to be disassembled during routine maintenance required by NFPA 25 and visually inspected for obstructions and corrosion.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:05:46 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 13-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. 5.14 ]
5.14 * Test Connections.
5.14.1 System test connections shall be sized to accommodate both the low flow of the proportionerand the maximum anticipated flow through the proportioner.
5.14.2* The system test connection for a pre-primed system shall be located at a remote point that willallow the largest portion of the system to be filled with foam-water solution.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Pre-primed systems need to be installed with as much of the foam-water solution in the piping as possible. NFPA 13 allows the test connection to be at any location downstream of the water flow alarm and in many cases it’s installed immediately past this switch. Having the test connection located at a remote location on the system will allow it to be used to help fill portions of the system with foam-water solution that would otherwise have air pockets with no foam-water solution.The original text was moved to a subsection to comply with the manual of style.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 09:36:08 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 3-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after 6.2.1.1 ]
6.2.1.1.1
The flow and pressure of a public water supply shall be determined from waterflow test data or otherapproved method.
6.2.1.1.1.1 Water supply fluctuations must be addressed in the design of water-based fire protectionsystems, as required by the Authority Having Jurisdiction.
6.2.1.1.1.2 Safety factors must be addressed in the design of water-based fire protection systems, asrequired by the Authority Having Jurisdiction.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Similar proposals are made to NFPA 13 and 13R to recognize the need to address public water supply fluctuations and safety factors in the design of fire protection systems.
The International Codes now specifically require that water supply fluctuations be addressed in sprinkler system design as follows (from 2015 IFC, Section 903.3.5): "For connections to public waterworks systems, the water supply test used for design of fire protection systems shall be adjusted to account for seasonal and daily pressure fluctuations based on information from the water supply authority and as approved by the fire code official." Additionally, NFPA 14 (2016 edition) now states: "10.1.1 Daily and seasonal flow and pressure fluctuation data shall be provided by the water purveyor, and the fire protection design must account for both high and low variations. 10.1.1.1 Where these data are not available, design shall be based on the available water flow data." This proposal is simply an intent to recognize the need for and importance of water supply fluctuation to be evaluated, as well as to recognize that many jurisdictions require safety factors in the design of sprinkler systems.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Bob Morgan
Organization: Fort Worth Fire Department
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Mar 24 17:02:30 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 22-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. 7.2.7 ]
7.2.7
Where draft curtains, detection zones, and drainage or containment area separations impact limit theperformance size of the design area of the foam-water system, plans of these buildings features shall bemade available for the design and layout of the foam-water systems .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A revision to section 7.3.6 was submitted that would clarify how to layout and calculate when system design areas are affected by building features such as drainage trenches and containment pits or dikes. When these building features are anticipated and/or provided its imperative that the layout of the foam-water system and the design area coincide with the locations of these features. Scaled drawings of these features need to be provided for the proper layout of the foam-water system.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:10:54 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 24-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. 7.3.6 ]
7.3.6 Spill Drainage and Containment .
7.3.6.1
Facilities shall Means shall be provided for the safe removal or retention or containment of the largestanticipated flammable liquid spill plus the free water reaching the floor from the fixed fire protection system,as well as including the discharge from hose streams.
7.3.6.2
Where applicable occupancy standards specify containment or drainage that differs from that specified in7.3.6.1, the occupancy standard shall take precedence.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This change will clarify how to design and construct drainage and containment features in a building so they coincide with the foam-water system design area. If the foam-water system design area is limited to 5,000 sq. ft. then the drainage system or containment pit or dike must also limit spills to a 5,000 sq. ft. area.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:18:20 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 25-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after 7.3.6.2 ]
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7.3.6.1.1 The spill area shall be limited by drainage or containment to the system design area.
7.3.6.1.1.1 The system design area for wet pipe, dry pipe, and preaction systems shall be as described in7.3.7.1.
7.3.6.1.1.2 The system design area for deluge systems shall be as described in 6.2.1.1.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This change will clarify how to design and construct drainage and containment features in a building so they coincide with the foam-water system design area. If the foam-water system design area is limited to 5,000 sq. ft. then the drainage system or containment pit or dike must also limit spills to a 5,000 sq. ft. area.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:23:24 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. 7.3.6.2 ]
7.3.6.2
Where applicable occupancy standards specify containment specify drainage or drainage thatcontainment that differs from that specified in 7.3.6.1, the occupancy standard shall take precedence.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
change order of terms for consistency and match title
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:28:09 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 27-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after 8.4.2 ]
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8.4.1.6.1 Simulated foam concentrates shall not be utilized when testing a pre-primed foam-watersystem.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This new subsection to 8.4.1.6 clarifies that simulated foam concentrates should never be used when testing a pre-primed foam-water system because of the difficulty in getting the simulated solution completely flushed out of the system before it’s filled with the pre-primed solution.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:25:51 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 15-NFPA 16-2016 [ New Section after A.5.14 ]
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A.5.14.2 The purpose for having this connection at a remote point is to allow as much of the system aspossible to be filled with the foam-water solution. Judgment should be used to determine a location thatallows accessibility of the test connection while at the same time venting as much air in the system aspossible.
NFPA 13 also requires a single air vent on all wet pipe systems at the highest most remote section of thesystem to facilitate filling the system, and to reduce corrosion within the system piping.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This annex statement further explains the placement of the test connection for pre-primed systems. Pre-primed systems need to be installed with as much of the foam-water solution in the piping as possible. NFPA 13 allows the test connection to be at any location downstream of the water flow alarm and in many cases it’s installed immediately past this switch. Having the test connection located at a remote location on the system will allow it to be used to help fill portions of the system with foam-water solution that would otherwise have air pockets with no foam-water solution.The air vent required by NFPA 13 on all wet systems can also be used to help fill as much of the system as possible with foam-water solution.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 09:50:32 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 21-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. A.6.2.3.1 ]
A.6.2.3.1
Local regulations might require a means for removal or retention or containment of the largest flammableliquid spill plus the actual calculated flow from the maximum number of systems expected to operate fortheir calculated duration plus hose streams.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A revision to section 7.3.6 was submitted that would clarify when system design areas are affected by building features such as drainage trenches and containment pits or dikes. Changing “retention” to “containment” provides consistency in the use of the terms used to describe these building features.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jason Vermeulen
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Dec 21 10:08:35 EST 2016
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Public Input No. 8-NFPA 16-2016 [ Section No. C.1.2 ]
C.1.2 Other Publications.
C.1.2.1 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
UL 162, Standard for Safety for Foam Equipment and Liquid Concentrates, 1994, revised 1999 2015 .
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Referenced current revision of UL document.
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Public Input No. 7-NFPA 16-2016 [Section No. 2.3] Referenced current SDO name and editions.
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