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SA-GENEALOGIE Poslys
Argiewe 2012
Jaargang IX Maand 2
Februarie 2012
Saamgestel deur: Pieter L van der Merwe
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KWYTSKELDING
Hierdie argief is nie ’n amptelike, wetlike dokument nie, maar
’n samestelling van die e-posse van verskillende lede van die
SA Genealogie Gesprekslys soos dit gedurende die tydperk
ingestuur was.
Die lyseienaars en hulle bestuurspan aanvaar dus geen
aanspreeklikheid vir die korrektheid van gegewens, sienings
oor bepaalde gebeure, interpretasie en samestelling van
familieverwantskappe, of vir enige aksies of verlies wat daaruit
mag voortspruit nie, en stel voor dat persone wat hierdie bron
gebruik, self eers die gegewens kontroleer.
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Februarie 2012 Bundels
(Sprokkelmaand)
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Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 5093
Datum: Wed Feb 1, 2012
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: VAN DER MERWE X VILJOEN From: Viljoen, HC
2. Die deurgmekaar Vissers From: Elmien Wood
3a. Re: re Stewart/Halvey family. From: Jannie Frey
3b. Re: re Stewart/Halvey family. From: Carol Beneke
3c. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Annelie Els
3d. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Jannie Frey
3e. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Kobus Farrell
4a. Re: Digest Number 5090 From: a_morkel
5a. OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregistrasi From: paul_le_roux
5b. Star Trek nie Groot Trek !! From: Annelie Els
6. (Koerant) Beeld 01 Feb. 2012 From: Fanie Blignaut
7. (Koerant) Beeld 31 Jan. 2012 From: Fanie Blignaut
8a. Re: Visagie From: Lourens Annemie
9. Pretorius en Bester From: Lourens
10. Bester Zuidmeer From: Lourens
11. Bester en De Villiers From: Lourens
12. FW: OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregist From: Dennis Pretorius (MTN)
13a. [Hulp] Uniondale From: Marietta van Zyl
13b. Re: [Hulp] Uniondale From: Carol Beneke
13c. UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS From:
Annelie Els
13d. Re: [Hulp] Uniondale From: benvdw_oz
13e. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
From: Marietta van Zyl
14. Plaasmoorde en Genealogie From: Stefaans Cilliers
15. Plaasmoorde From: Stefaans Cilliers
16. [Koerant] The Mercury /Daily News Woensdag 1 Februarie 2012
From: aletta magrieta Quebbemann
1a. Re: VAN DER MERWE X VILJOEN
Posted by: "Viljoen, HC " [email protected] hc_viljoen
Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:03 am (PST)
Beste Babs,
Baie dankie vir die inligting!
Vriendelike groete
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Christo
Re: VAN DER MERWE X VILJOEN (vir Christo Viljoen)
Posted by: "Babs" [email protected] bvonehrenberg
Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:57 am (PST)
Beste Christo,
Volgens Janet Melville se "Stamboom van die Van der Merwe
Familie..."
2011, bl.88 is Gert Johannes * 27.12.1823 en Susara Johanna Viljoen
* 1825 se seun Gert Johannes in 1853 gebore. Geen geboorteplek
aangedui nie. Susara Johanna Viljoen se ouers word aangedui as
Cornelis Hendricus Viljoen * 01.04.1793 en Maria Elizabeth Strydom
*1801.
Gert Johannes van der Merwe * 1840 x Maria Johanna Viljoen * 1840
word onder die ongekoppeldes op bl. 1066 aangedui. Die doopgetuies
by hul seun Gert Johannes * Kliprivier 17.04.1864 se doop op
Potchefstroom 10.01.1865 was o.a. 'n J.J. Viljoen asook 'n M.P.
Viljoen. Die outeur dui aan dat die name onduidelik is in die
doopregister.
Groete
Babs
--- In [email protected], "Viljoen, HC "
wrote:
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> Beste Babs,
> Ek vermoed dit is dieselfde persoon. Gert Johannes van der Merwe
(ook Gerrit Johannes) geb 27 Des 1823 Winterhoek, Uitenhage, +
Potchefstroom 17 Okt 1901 x ca 1845 Susara Johanna Viljoen * 9 Jan
1830 Uitenhage * 3 Jul 1897 + 3 Jul 1897 het 'n seun gehad Gerhardus
Johannes (Gert) van der Merwe geb 17 Apr 1865 ~ NHK Potchefstroom 1
Okt 1865 gehad.
> LW die geboortedatum op my rekords verskil een jaar met joune. Wat
is jou bron van inligting?
> Groete
> Christo
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2. Die deurgmekaar Vissers
Posted by: "Elmien Wood" [email protected]
Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:52 am (PST)
Ek voel verskriklik sleg, want die inligting oor die Vissers wat ek
aangestuur het is foutief.
Die probleem is die volgende:
Drie vroue is getroud met drie Visserbroers. Die drie vroue is:
Catharina Everts van der Zee gebore in 1673 op die skip Europa,
Catharina, ‘n weesmeisie van Rotterdam en
Jannetje Thieleman, die eerste Kaapsgebore vrou wat ‘n huwelik
aangegaan het (sien Schoeman, 2001, Armosyn van die Kaap, p. 347).
Die een verwarring het ontstaan tussen die twee Catharinas. Sover
bekend het nie een van die twee uit ‘n familie gekom wat ‘n van
gehad het nie. Catharina van der Zee wat op die Europa gebore is,
was die dogter van Evert Cornelissen, dus die “Everts” (sien Suid-
Afrikaanse Geslagregisters, vol. 1, p. 665).
Die Catharina wat die wees meisie was, is ook soms in die
kerkregisters aangeteken as Catharina van der Zee.
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Die tweede verwarrring het ontstaan deurdat al drie hierdie vroue
dogters met die naam Johanna gehad het. Jannetje Thielemans het twee
dogters met die naam Johanna/Jannetje gehad!
Die gepubliseerde geslagregister het keer op keer ‘n aanvanklike
fout herhaal. Ek raai almal aan wat inligting oor die eerste Vissers
het om dit te kontroleer aan die hand van e-families se First Fifty
Years project http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ en op die webwerf van
Richard Ball, die Ball families of Hastings,
http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/olivier/I111.html
Na my mening is die regte inligting op hierdie webwerwe.
Die vier Johannas was volgens die inligting wat ek nou het:
b6 Coenraad Jansz VISSER * c. 1662 » 8.4.1663
x 5.8.1685 Catharina Everts van der Zee * 1673
c8 Johanna/Jannetie (Europa) VISSER = Stellenbosch 1 Feb 1711
(Palmkronieke) TANAP MOOC10/5.40
x Stellenbosch 28 Nov 1734 Dirk MAARTENS van Flensburg
xx Kaap 17 Sep 1752 Johan Christiaan VOLKMAN van Pommere
b3 Gerrit Jansz VISSER * c. 1653 (Blaauwklip, 1690, 50 morgen) KA:
MOOC 13/1/1 Boedelrekening Gerrit Jansz: Visser nr. 57 (1715)
Erkenning Mansell Upham
x 4.08.1675 Jannetje Thielemans
c8 Jannetie (Anna) VISSER = Kaap 28 Mei 1690 (Palmkronieke)
{waarskynlik vernoem na Joanna Tielman, want sy is getuie by die
doop} Erkenning Richard Ball
x 5 Mei 1715 Johann (Jan) Arend ROODEWALD/ ROODENWALD G1 13/1 p. 4 *
1688 † 1726
xx 4 Mei 1727 Jacob NISSEN
c12 Johanna VISSER (Joanetie) = Kaapstad 7 Jun 1699 First Fifty
Years Project
x Kaap 19 Mei 1715 Johannes (Hans) ROOS van Leipzig * 1715
[Messelaar]
d1 Maria ROOS
x Bartel HERTZOG (Stamvader)
xx 9 Des 1746 Lucas VISAGIE
b8 Johannes VISSER (Jan Jansz) = Kaap 16 Jan 1667
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x Kaap 8 Mei 1689 Catharina VAN DER ZEE van Rotterdam. G1 1/1 p. 85
Tanap MOOC10/5.40
c1 Johanna/Jannetie VISSER = Kaap 5 Mrt 1690
Ek hoop regtig dat die drukkersduiwel nie weer my goed deurmekaar
geskrap het nie.
Groete
Elmien
3a. Re: re Stewart/Halvey family.
Posted by: "Jannie Frey" [email protected]
Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:49 am (PST)
Hallo Carol,
Any news about my Great Gran Beneke?
Jannie Frey
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Rootsweb - S.A.; Rootsweb - E.C.; SA Genealogy
Subject: [SA-Gen] re Stewart/Halvey family.
Hi List
Is there perhaps some one that can provide info on the couple listed
below.
STEWART - HALVEY. The engagement is announced between Maureen,
eldest
daughter of Mr and Mrs M. HALVEY,
and Cecil Harold (Bobby), S.A.A.F., second son of Mr and Mrs C.H.
STEWART of
Misgund.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Carol BENEKE nee STEWART
Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
083 4821 482
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Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE
and related families.
3b. Re: re Stewart/Halvey family.
Posted by: "Carol Beneke" [email protected] carolbeneke
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:15 am (PST)
Hi Jannie
I’m still busy entering data:
As soon as I find the Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke/Frey
connection
I’ll let you know.
I haven’t worked on my tree for 2 years due to another project,
have just collected data – so it’s taking a considerable amount of
my
time now.
I promise as soon as I find it, I’ll contact you.
Regards
Carol
From: Jannie Frey
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:49 PM
To: [email protected] ; 'Rootsweb - S.A.' ; 'Rootsweb -
E.C.'
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] re Stewart/Halvey family.
Hallo Carol,
Any news about my Great Gran Beneke?
Jannie Frey
From: mailto:SAGenealogie%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:SAGenealogie%40yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Rootsweb - S.A.; Rootsweb - E.C.; SA Genealogy
Subject: [SA-Gen] re Stewart/Halvey family.
Hi List
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Is there perhaps some one that can provide info on the couple listed
below.
STEWART - HALVEY. The engagement is announced between Maureen,
eldest
daughter of Mr and Mrs M. HALVEY,
and Cecil Harold (Bobby), S.A.A.F., second son of Mr and Mrs C.H.
STEWART of
Misgund.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Carol BENEKE nee STEWART
Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
083 4821 482
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Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE
and related families.
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3c. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:47 am (PST)
Hi Carol,
Is dit waarna jy soek ??
a1b2c9d6. Cornelia Jacoba Catharina VREY, (dogter van Cornelis VREY
en Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina
OLIVIER) g. 15 Okt 1835,13 +. 21 Mei 1882.44jr
Sy trou Diederick (Johannes) BENEKE, g. 10 Jul 1825,44 (seun van
Johan Diederik BENECKE en Magdalena
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Johanna MINNIE) +. 19 Aug 1881.44jr
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: 01 February 2012 04:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] re Stewart/Halvey family.
Hi Jannie
I’m still busy entering data:
As soon as I find the Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke/Frey
connection
I’ll let you know.
3d. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Jannie Frey" [email protected]
Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:41 pm (PST)
Hallo Carol en Annelie
Dis nou vir my duidelik hierdie Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina
Beneke kan nie my grootjie wees nie want my oupa Jan Diederick Frey
is Oktober 1898 gebore … 16jaar na haar sterf datum. Daar moet dus
nog `n Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke wees wat sy moeder was
(volgens doopregister)
Groete
Jannie Frey
(Steyl, Frey/Vrey)
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Annelie Els
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hi Carol,
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Is dit waarna jy soek ??
a1b2c9d6. Cornelia Jacoba Catharina VREY, (dogter van Cornelis VREY
en Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina
OLIVIER) g. 15 Okt 1835,13 +. 21 Mei 1882.44jr
Sy trou Diederick (Johannes) BENEKE, g. 10 Jul 1825,44 (seun van
Johan Diederik BENECKE en Magdalena
Johanna MINNIE) +. 19 Aug 1881.44jr
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]
] On Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: 01 February 2012 04:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] re Stewart/Halvey family.
Hi Jannie
I’m still busy entering data:
As soon as I find the Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke/Frey
connection
I’ll let you know.
3e. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Kobus Farrell" [email protected]
Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:53 pm (PST)
Goeie more
Kyk in SAG onder b15c11d5 Dina Johanna Magdalena *16 - 06 -1856 =
George 23 -11 -1856 x Jacobus VREY
Groete
Kobus Farrell
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4a. Re: Digest Number 5090
Posted by: "a_morkel" [email protected] a_morkel
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:01 am (PST)
Baie dankie Delia, nou weet ons waar First Fifty Years Philip Morkel
se geboortedatum vandaan gekry het - nl GISA. Ongelukkig gee daardie
bron nie 'n verwysing nie.
Ek is goed bekend met Philip William Morkel se boek oor die familie
geskiedenis en genealogie, maar daarin is daar geen geboortedautm
vir Philip nie. Dit bly dus 'n raaisel.
Wat frustrerend is dat dit so 'n spesifieke datum is - 27 Februarie
1677 - asof iemand dit wel weet. Dit is geloofbaar maar waar kom dit
vandaan?
Ek soek dus voort.
André
Perth
--- In [email protected], DRobertson
wrote:
>
> Andre,
>
> Jammer, die bron is eintlik SAG, L-M, bl. 677: "Philip Morkel *
> 27.2.1677 van Hamburg" - sal regestel work in die volgende
updatering.
>
> Op bl. 684, aan die einde van die Philip Morkel register is: "Sien
> verder Philip William Morkel: The Morkels family history and
family
> tree." Dit is miskien waar vandaan die datum kom.
>
> Groetnis
> Delia
>
> On 2012/01/31 09:50 PM, Andre wrote:
> > From: Andre T. Morkel
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:14 AM
> > To:[email protected]
> > Subject: [SA-Gen] Philip Morkel se geboortedatum
> >
> >
> > Dankie Delia Robertson vir die opdatering van die First Fifty
Years.
> > Daarin is 'n verwysing na stamouer Philip MORKEL se
geboortedatum, nl 27
> > Februarie 1677.
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> >
> > Die verwysing is Lorna Newcomb and Ockert Malan, compilers,
*Annale van
> > Nederduits Gereformeerde Moedergemeente Stellenbosch No 1.*.,
CD-ROM
> > (Stellenbosch) Die Genootskap vir die Kerkversameling, 2004 0-
9584832-1-3),
> > Baptism Register. Hereinafter cited as *Palmkronieke I
Baptisms.*
> > *
> > *
> > Is daar 'n lyslid wat toegang tot hierdie bron het en die
oorsprong van
> > Philip se geboortedatum kan vasstel? Philip was in Hamburg
Duitsland
> > gebore en dus verwag mens nie dat sy geboorte en doop inligting
nie in die
> > Kaapse argiewe sal wees nie. Navorsing in Hamburg kon geen spoor
van
> > Philip vind nie. Waar kom die datum in Palmkronieke vandaan?
> >
> > Ek sal enige help baie waardeer.
> >
> > Andre Morkel
> > Perth
>
5a. OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregistrasi
Posted by: "paul_le_roux" [email protected] paul_le_roux
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:08 am (PST)
A nee ah, Dennis en andere,
Vandag is 1 Feb nie 1 April nie....
The GIPSY BRIDE .......... was owned by James Kirk junior,
'n Skip besit deur James KIRK met 'n SCOTTy aanboord - klink vir my
na Star Trek se bemanning. Volgende vra julle of daar iemand is wat
'n SK uit Klingon kan vertaal!
LOL
Paul LE ROUX
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5b. Star Trek nie Groot Trek !!
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:54 am (PST)
SKERP !! Paul baie skerp..
En dan sê mense genealogie is 'boring' !!!!
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of paul_le_roux
Sent: 01 February 2012 04:08 PM
Subject: OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregistrasie
A nee ah, Dennis en andere,
Vandag is 1 Feb nie 1 April nie....
The GIPSY BRIDE .......... was owned by James Kirk junior,
'n Skip besit deur James KIRK met 'n SCOTTy aanboord - klink vir my
na Star
Trek se bemanning. Volgende vra julle of daar iemand is wat 'n SK
uit
Klingon kan vertaal!
LOL
Paul LE ROUX
6. (Koerant) Beeld 01 Feb. 2012
Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:33 am (PST)
BEKKER; Gideon Josua, in lewe van Pretoria. Gedenkdiens: Heatherdale
Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord, 02/02/2012, 11:00. (Beeld -
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01/02/2012) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
DE LANGE; Anna Catharina Frederika (Rika), in lewe van Pretoria.
Begrafnisdiens: VEK Kerk Lofdal, Pretoria, 03/02/2012, 09:30 #
Heatherdale
Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 01/02/2012) AVBOB
Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269.
GERMESHUISEN; Pieter. Begrafnisdiens: NG Gemeente, Roodekrans,
Roodepoort,
Gauteng provinsie, 02/02/2012, 09:30. (Beeld - 01/02/2012)
KRUGER; Diwan * 20/01/2008, ID-080120 1205 088. Dawid Johannes
Jacobus
KRUGER, ID-740618 5097 088 of Catherine Suzette KRUGER, ID-830527
0045 086,
kontak dringend {Me} M HATTINGH by CMR Noord, tel-012-344-1291 oor
aanneming
van Diwan. (Beeld - 30/01/, 01/02/2012)
Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria
Vanderbijlpark,
Gauteng provinsie.
[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x
Pretorius.]
[Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x
Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen] AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-
Noord,
012-565-4269
7. (Koerant) Beeld 31 Jan. 2012
Posted by: "Fanie Blignaut" [email protected] blignautfanie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:36 am (PST)
KRUGER; Diwan * 20/01/2008, ID-080120 1205 088. Dawid Johannes
Jacobus
KRUGER, ID-740618 5097 088 of Catherine Suzette KRUGER, ID-830527
0045 086,
kontak dringend {Me} M HATTINGH by CMR Noord, tel-012-344-1291 oor
aanneming
van Diwan. (Beeld - 30, 31/01/2012)
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Groete,
Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Zandfontein Begraafplaas, Pretoria
Vanderbijlpark,
Gauteng provinsie.
[Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x
Pretorius.]
[Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x
Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen] AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-
Noord,
012-565-4269
8a. Re: Visagie
Posted by: "Lourens Annemie" [email protected]
lourensannemie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 7:50 am (PST)
Goeiedag
Ek het die navraag gesien oor Swartland Visagies.
Ek het so 'n paar Visagies in my Swartland register. Kan ek dalk
meer spesifieke inligting kry oor die navrae sodat ek kan vastel
watter Visagie familie dit is?
Groete
Annemie Lourens
Malmesbury
9. Pretorius en Bester
Posted by: "Lourens" [email protected] lourensannemie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:06 am (PST)
Goeiedag
Wie van die Pretorius kenners kan dalk hier help ek soek enige
inligting oor die volgende egpaar en of hul wel van die Swartland
was?
Michiel Christiaan Bester was eers getroud met Elizabeth Catharina
de Jongh en toe met Elsie Sophia Johanna Pretorius.
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Sover ek kon vastel het hy die volgende kinders gehad by Elizabeth
Catharina de Jongh.
b1 Johannes Barend Bester * 1849 Boebezakskraal, Malmesbury + 13 Dec
1901 Scaapplaats (Boer,MOOC 6/9/441:4477)
getroud met Catharina Elizabeth B.Bester
c1 Sophia Catharina Hendrina Bester
c2 Michiel Christiaan Johannes Bester
c3 Hester Eliza Wilhelmina Bester
c4 Catharina Anna Bester
c5 Johanna Barendina Bester
c6 Anna Gysbertha Bester + bef 1900
c7 Andries Jacobus Bester
c8 Johannes Barend Bester
c9 Hendrik Bester
c10 Christiaan Lodewyk Bester
c11 Wilhelm Myburgh Bester
c12 Jacobus Mynert Bester
a2. Helena Johanna Bester * 15 Mar 1876 getroud 27 Feb 1900
Piketberg met Hermanus Dempers Thiart *19 Mar 1881 = 1 May 1881
Piketberg sv.Frederik Hendrik Johannes Gabriel Thiart en Hester
Helena Boonzaaier.
Groete
Annemie Lourens
Swartland families.
10. Bester Zuidmeer
Posted by: "Lourens" [email protected] lourensannemie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:20 am (PST)
Goeiedag Lede
Ek is op soek na die ouers van Johannes Denyssen Bester en sal enige
bydrae waardeer.
1. Johannes Denyssen BESTER * 3 Nov 1888 Durbanville + 11 Jul 1968
Strand. ?Victoriastraat Strand
Johannes Denyssen BESTER getroud met Maria Cornelia ZUIDMEER (dv.
Pieter Franciscus ZUIDMEER en Anna Maria DU PLESSIS) op 26 Des 1918
in Paarl. Maria Cornelia ZUIDMEER * 22 Jun 1887 in Paarl. = 7 Aug
1887 in Strooidakkerk, Paarl. Bekend as Blapie. onderwyseres dist.
Mosselbaai
Groete
Annemie Lourens
Swartland families
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11. Bester en De Villiers
Posted by: "Lourens" [email protected] lourensannemie
Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:28 am (PST)
Goeiedag
Nog 'n Swartland Bester navrae.
Ek is op soek na die ouers van Catharina Aletta Johanna Jacoba
Bester.
Catharina Aletta Johanna Jacoba Bester getroud 30 Jan 1871 Swartland
met Tielman Theunis Christiaan Roux de Villiers *24 Sep 1839 = 22
Oct 1839 Grootriet, distr. Namakwaland + 8 Aug 1919 Klipheuwel,
distr. Namakwaland ( boer "Strandfontein", dist. Namakwaland) sv.
Isaak Abraham de Villiers en Catharina Aletta Bester.
Groete
Annemie Lourens
Swartland families
12. FW: OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregist
Posted by: "Dennis Pretorius (MTN)" [email protected]
Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:31 am (PST)
Hallo "paultjie"
My voorouers het nie sommer net hier aangekom nie - hulle hier
"arrive" ;-))
"Beam me down Scotty"
Groetnis
Dennis Pretorius ----- Krugersdorp, S A
Home Tel / Huis Tel: +27-11-762-8911
Office /Kantoor: _+27-11-953-3727
Cel / Sel: +27-83-679-8541 Fax/Faks +27-86-609-8541
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of paul_le_roux
Sent: 01 February 2012 16:08
Subject: OT - Re: [SA-Gen] Die Slim mense van SAGEN - Britse
Skeepsregistrasie
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A nee ah, Dennis en andere,
Vandag is 1 Feb nie 1 April nie....
The GIPSY BRIDE .......... was owned by James Kirk junior,
'n Skip besit deur James KIRK met 'n SCOTTy aanboord - klink vir my
na Star
Trek se bemanning. Volgende vra julle of daar iemand is wat 'n SK
uit
Klingon kan vertaal!
LOL
Paul LE ROUX
13a. [Hulp] Uniondale
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:07 pm (PST)
Goeienaand vriende
Het iemand dalk toegang tot Uniondale se doop registers asb?
Ek tas nog steeds in die donker rond! Tyd dat ek die ligte aansit!
Byvoorbaat dankie
Marietta van Zyl
IMPALA PARK
Suid Afrika
Huis: 0118945917
Sel no: 0827765998
Faks: 0867563254
Epos: [email protected]
Familieboom:
-
> George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
13b. Re: [Hulp] Uniondale
Posted by: "Carol Beneke" [email protected] carolbeneke
Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:23 pm (PST)
Hi All
Yes, I would also like a few look-ups in these registers.
Regards
Carol
From: Marietta van Zyl
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:07 AM
Subject: [SA-Gen] [Hulp] Uniondale
Het iemand dalk toegang tot Uniondale se doop registers asb?
13c. UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:50 pm (PST)
Hallo Marietta en andere,
Daar is `n klompie UNIONDALE registers op die LDS webwerf.
MAAK SEKER DAT DIE HELE !! SKAKEL IN DIE BROWSER GEPLAK WORD INDIEN
DIT NIE
HIER WERK NIE. !!
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1690-2007 1866-1888
Baptisms
Uniondale
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12442-39391-
16?cc=1392488&wc=10
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831393
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1690-2007 1888-1913
Baptisms
Uniondale
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12059-33744-
3?cc=1392488&wc=108
31440
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1690-2007 1892-1904
Marriages
O-Uniondale
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12355-27481-
24?cc=1392488&wc=10
831447
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1690-2007 1904-1927
Marriages
Uniondale
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12695-9012-
17?cc=1392488&wc=108
31485
South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Records, 1690-2007 1956-1971
Marriages
Uniondale
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11610-36744-
48?cc=1392488&wc=10
831837
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Marietta van Zyl
Sent: 02 February 2012 12:07 AM
Subject: [SA-Gen] [Hulp] Uniondale
Goeienaand vriende
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Het iemand dalk toegang tot Uniondale se doop registers asb?
Ek tas nog steeds in die donker rond! Tyd dat ek die ligte aansit!
Byvoorbaat dankie
Marietta van Zyl
IMPALA PARK
Suid Afrika
Huis: 0118945917
Sel no: 0827765998
Faks: 0867563254
Epos: [email protected]
Familieboom:
George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
------------------------------------
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genealogies-verwante aangeleenthede alleenlik, onderhewig aan die
voorwaardes soos uitgespel by http://www.sagenealogie.com Lede wat
aangeleenthede wil opper wat nie van 'n suiwer genealogiese aard is
nie,
word versoek om dit nie op die poslys te doen nie, maar dit liefs
van die
lys af direk aan die betrokkene te stuur. Probleme, klagtes en
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vir verbetering moet gestuur word aan:
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Yahoo! Groups Links
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13d. Re: [Hulp] Uniondale
Posted by: "benvdw_oz" [email protected] benvdw_oz
Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:51 pm (PST)
Hi Marietta
Ek is oorspronklik van Uniondale - daar gebore en daar skool gegaan.
Ek twyfel sterk of die dooprekords daar al digitaal vasgele is. Ek
het nog familie wat daar bly en kan jou in kontak sit met die leraar
van die plaaslike NGK indien jy so verkies. Stuur asb 'n email na my
persoonlike adres.
Groete
Ben van der Westhuizen
--- In [email protected], "Marietta van Zyl"
wrote:
>
> Goeienaand vriende
>
>
>
> Het iemand dalk toegang tot Uniondale se doop registers asb?
>
> Ek tas nog steeds in die donker rond! Tyd dat ek die ligte aansit!
>
>
>
> Byvoorbaat dankie
>
>
>
> Marietta van Zyl
>
> IMPALA PARK
>
> Suid Afrika
>
> Huis: 0118945917
>
> Sel no: 0827765998
>
> Faks: 0867563254
>
> Epos: marietta2510@...
>
> Familieboom:
> > George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
>
>
>
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> VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
> Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
>
>
>
>
>
>
13e. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:29 pm (PST)
Baie dankie, ek sal beslis kyk.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Annelie Els
Sent: 02 February 2012 07:50 AM
Subject: [SA-Gen] UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS
SKAKELS
Hallo Marietta en andere,
14. Plaasmoorde en Genealogie
Posted by: "Stefaans Cilliers" [email protected]
stefaanscilliers
Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:42 pm (PST)
TAU SA campaign on Farm Killings start this week
After it became clear that farm murders in South Africa seems to be
on the
rise, TAU SA announced an awareness campaign in South Africa as well
as
internationally.
Since the beginning of January, six farmers were murdered compared
to 1
farmer murdered during January 2011. The number of non-fatal attacks
were
also higher than in 2011.
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TAU SA General Manager, Mr Bennie van Zyl , said this is
unacceptable. "For
several years now we have tried to convince the South African
government to
take action. Nothing has been done, and the only response we got was
that
'farm attacks are no longer a priority but a mere concern'. We are
convinced that government is turning a deaf ear to our views, and
now we
have no other choice than to make use of other options to protect
our
farmers, who are the country's food producers," said Mr van Zyl.
"We as farmers cannot be counted in terms of our numbers, because
there are
only about 35 000 commercial farmers left. But we can be weighed in
terms of
our contribution to the South African economy. If we could mobilize
the
South African consumers to support the farmers, this weight could
become
much more in terms of economic considerations. We have therefore
opened a
SMS line where people can deliver messages of support, and also
pledge a
small donation which will be partially used for our international
awareness
actions, and partially for our trauma fund to support the victims of
farm
attacks.
"Our international awareness action also starts this week. TAU SA's
Assistant-General Manager: Communications, Mr Henk van de Graaf, is
currently in Europe , where he will bring the full dimensions of
farm
attacks to the attention of political parties, cultural
organisations,
governments and other stake holders. The visit culminates in a
presentation
to the European Parliament, where he will deliver the key note
address at a
public meeting of all European Parliamentarians on farm killings in
South
Africa . If the South African government does not want to listen to
us, who
represent the commercial farmers in South Africa , we have utilise
other
means to convince government to take action," said Mr van Zyl.
People who would want to support TAU SA's actions in this regard,
can send a
SMS with the key word: TLUSTOP to 48716. Each SMS costs R10 which
will be
used for our international campaign as well as our trauma fund. The
members
of the public can also leave their names on TAU SA's web site at
www.tlu.co.za as part of a petition campaign
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against farm killings.
Statement issued by TAU SA, January 31 2012
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15. Plaasmoorde
Posted by: "Stefaans Cilliers" [email protected]
stefaanscilliers
Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:06 pm (PST)
Lys lede
Die vorige e-pos wat ek gestuur het is 'n verklaring wat deur TLU SA
uitgereik is. Daar is in die ander koerante ook dalk n Afrikaanse
weergawe.
Daar word baie goeie werk deur ons aktiewe lede gedoen om veral ou
en
vergete begraafplase te "ontdek" ter wille van ons navorsing.
Hierdie mense
wat vermoor is, is nog nie geskiedenis nie en pas dalk nog nie in
die "oop
gate' van ons navorsing nie, maar daar is heelwat ouer persone wat
vermoor
is wat dalk wel kan inpas. Die data is ook waarskynlik in die
argiewe of
Meesters kantoor beskikbaar nie.
Die lyste van vermoorde boere en gesinne is baie lank en ook nog nie
volledig nie, aangesien die polisie nie die data vrystel nie, en die
inligting kom uit koerante ens. Daar is dus nog heelwat gevalle wat
ons lede
kan byvoeg. Ek is besig om die getalle te verkry en sal dit op die
lys
plaas sodra ek dit ontvang.
Groete.
Stefaans Cilliers
16. [Koerant] The Mercury /Daily News Woensdag 1 Februarie 2012
Posted by: "aletta magrieta Quebbemann" [email protected]
alettaqea9fac
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Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:42 pm (PST)
Dag vriende,
QUICKQUIP:-" My theory of evolution is that Darwin was adopted. "
Steven
WRIGHT.
GEBOORTES:- geen
VERLOWINGS:-RORHOLT -MOLLOY Glenn, Sally en Estelle gee verlowing
bekend van
hul dogter Carryn aan Graeme, seun van Per RORHOLT , Hamilton, New
Zealand.
WHEELER Meg & Chippy se jongste seun Edward aan Dana QUARGLIARIELLO,
dogter
van Catherine SHAMOUN & + Rudolh QUAGLIARIELLO van Brooklyn New
York.
HUWELIKE:-BOTES Neil & Adelle BRITS trou by Beethoven Guest House ,
Amanzimtoti . (foto)
MOHAPI Gilbert & Fatima BIBAEVA (blank) trou by Salt Rock (foto)
MOORE Stephen & Courtney HURST trou by Our Lady of Fatima Church,
Durban
Noord. (foto).
NORTJE Rowen & Pamela WYLDE trou by Old Balgowan, KZN Midlands.
SPIERS Kegan & Kim trou by Collisheen Estate Ballito.(foto)
STEVENS Adam & Lereese trou by Highfield House , Hillary. (foto).
VAN BILJON Colin & Della DE PONTE trou by Shandrani Resort,
Mauritius.(foto)
WILLIAMS Justin & Penny-Jane ALBERTS trou by Makaranga Garden Lodge,
Kloof.
(foto).
CONSECRATIONS:- HACK Philip. Man ,pa en oupa. Onthulling van steen
by
Pretoria Begraafplaas Rebecca Straat op 5 Feb 2012 om 10vm. DAILY
NEWS.
DOOD:-BOOYSEN Elizabeth 2 Junie 1911 ------28 Jan 2012 .Memorial by
Trinity
Presbyterian Kerk Meadowridge.
ELSWORTH nee CALDWELL Dorothy (Dot) + 30 Jan 2012. Ma van Sally-Ann
en ouma
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van Nicole en Samantha. Suster van Chris en Pat (Oslo, Norway).
FRANCIS Basil +30 Jan 2012. Oupa van Chanelle (Peanuts), Chantel
(Fifi),Mav en agterkleinkinders. Ook broer, swaers en hul kinders.
Diens by Old
Majestic Cenema Chatsworth Main Rd , Umhlatuzana op ? geen datum
vanaf 10vm
---3nm. Daarna na Clare Estate om 4nm.
MEYER Alice Ruth .Memorial op 2 Feb 2012 by Centre of Universal Mind
Glenwood om 10vm.
PAIZES Anthea . Simpatie aan Peter ,Rita en Wayne. Niggie (Cousin)
van
Gerry, Lulu, Gia en Liz. DAILY NEWS.
PETERS Noel Benedict O.M.I. + 28 Jan 2012. Requiem Mass by St
Anthony's
Church M.L. Sultan op 3 Feb 2012 om 0930 vm. Ter aarde bestelling
daarna by
St Joseph's Scholasticate Cedara. Ingesit deur DOVES 0860025500.
REYNOLDS Jim. 29 Aug 1943 -29 Jan 2012 x Linda. Pa van Jo en Lou.
RIP van
die LONGIES.
SHAW William Locke. Memorial op 3 Feb 2012 om 10vm by Flame Lily
Park
Retirement Home.
MEMORIAM:-CONCHIE John 1 Mei 1936 -----1 Feb 2011. X Penny vir 40
jaar. Pa
van Alley en Preston.
DONKIN Rory + 13 Mei 1984. Hy sou vandag 40 jaar oud gewees het.
Onthou deur
Mom, Dad, Shane, Clint, Wade, en Carrie-Ann.
MUNDEL Helena 27 Aug 1952 -----1 Feb 2010. Onthou deur Barry,
Jacqui, Nick,
Gary, Jack en Nell en Carol en Sean.
NEL Stephen Brett 6 Mei 1975 ----1 Feb 2009. Seun , broer en oom van
Mom,
Dad, Tarryn, Nicola, Megan, Emilee en fam.
SAMUEL Gerald Lancelot. 40 jaar dood nou. Man en pa van May en
familie.
WATTS Dennis Gilbert . 1jaar dood nou. X Kay.
Gegroet uit baie warm nag in Durban (27 grad middernag)
Rita Quebbemann
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Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 5094
Datum: Wed Feb 1, 2012
Daar is 7 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Johan
2. [Hulp asb] Doop register From: Marietta van Zyl
3a. Plaasmoorde en Genealogie From: Stefaans Cilliers
4a. Re: Reynders- inligting. From: Zena Wilson
5a. [Hulp] Olivier From: Marietta van Zyl
5b. Re: [Hulp] Olivier From: Sarel Burger
5c. Re: [Hulp] Olivier From: Marietta van Zyl
1a. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Johan" [email protected] johan.morgenthal
Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:44 pm (PST)
Ek sien in SAF Vol 3 onder Beneke die volgende:
c11 Abraham Aaron * 13.7.1823 » Swellendam 18.7.1824 ? Kruisrivier,
Oudtshoorn 7.9.1908 (86.2.-) x Riversdal 15.1.1844 Dina Johanna
Magdalena VREY (Cornelis-dg) ? 23.2.1885 xx Magdalena Jacoba COERTZE
g1 Jan Christoffel * Potchefstroom, Maart 1861, woon "Hekpoort",
dist. Pretoria ? "Hekpoort", dist.Pretoria 1.8.1924 x Dina Johanna
VREY * Ladismith, Kp, April 1866 ? "Elandsfontein",
dist.Potchefstroom 25.12.1906 d.v. Gert Adriaan Vrey en Christina
Susanna Olivier xx Krugersdorp,Maria Magdalena GROBLER * c. 1880
Hoop dit help
Johan
----- Original Message -----
From: Kobus Farrell
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Goeie more
Kyk in SAG onder b15c11d5 Dina Johanna Magdalena *16 - 06 -1856 =
George 23 -11 -1856 x Jacobus VREY
Groete
Kobus Farrell
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2. [Hulp asb] Doop register
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:59 pm (PST)
More al jul goeie mense
Ek is jammer ek vra so baie, maar dalk kan iemand my net vertel waar
om
MURRAYSBURG se doop registers op te soek asb. Indien beskikbaar.
Marietta van Zyl
IMPALA PARK
Suid Afrika
Huis: 0118945917
Sel no: 0827765998
Faks: 0867563254
Epos: [email protected]
Familieboom:
George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
3a. Plaasmoorde en Genealogie
Posted by: "Stefaans Cilliers" [email protected]
stefaanscilliers
Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:29 am (PST)
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Lys Lede,
Hier is enkele name van die Januarie 2012 gevalle.
Date Name Area Details
1 14/01/2012 Dries du Toit, 56 Klipplaatdrift farm,
Ventersdorp North West. Opposite Eugene Terre'Blanche's old farm
Beaten to death in his bed by five robbers
at around 4 am in the morning. His wife also beaten, but
survived.
2 16/01/2012 Koos Bisschoff,71 Mooihoek Avondale farm,
between Rustenburg and Koster, North West Attacked at his home
by five robbers. Hit over the head with a rifle, bound
with
plastic ties and locked in a room with a plastic bag over his head.
Died
later of his wounds. Bisschoff suffered from asbestosis.
3 22/01/2012 Michael Stenger, 30 Barbeton Road, Nelspruit,
Mpumalanga Attacked by four robbers on his small holding
.
Used as a human shield in a shoot out with a colleague of Stenger's.
Accidentally shot and died of his wounds.
4 22/01/2012 Frans van der Linden, 57 Rashoop, outside
Brits, North West Attacked on a small holding he was staying at.
Beaten and twice shot
by
robbers
at around 3am, who fled with a purse, cellphone and two watches. His
daughter was about to be married. Arrests later made.
5 23/01/2012 Francois du Toit, 38 Game farm outside
Roossenekal, Mpumalanga A nutritional services expert at Alzu Feeds
in
Middelburg. Shot twice by
robbers who entered his house at around 1am in the
morning.
Died shortly after of his wounds. His wife and children were tied
up.
6 28/01/2012 Hendrik Johannes (Boet) Cilliers, 77 Farm near
Stella, North West Found dead on his farm with a gunshot wound on
the
forehead. His legs were tied up
and he was badly assaulted
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Stefaans Cilliers.
4a. Re: Reynders- inligting.
Posted by: "Zena Wilson" [email protected] zena.wilson
Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:52 am (PST)
Hi,
Only Reynders I have are:
Jacobus Josua Reynders X 10/9/1906 Hofmeyr, Cape to Johanna
Christina Vorster * 9/7/1880 Tarkastad
Jacomina Debora Reynders X Andries Johannes Daniel Jacobus Bester
they had a daughter Levina Helena Catharina Bester christened
7/11/1859 in Cradock, Levina X Labertus Johannes Blom
Susanna Maria Reynders *c1874 X 12/7/1892 Dordrecht to Hercules
Johannes Strydom * 4/5/1689
Zena Opperman
________________________________
From: Linda Bester
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:50 PM
Subject: [SA-Gen] Reynders- inligting.
Goeiedag Lyslede.
Ek is desperaat op soek na inligting oor my oupagrootjie Hendrik
Johannes Jacobus Reynders, + 1920, begrawe Brixton Johannesburg,
grafnommer 1453 1920-10-25. Op sy sterftekennis word sy ouers
aangedui
as oorlede.
X Gezina Elizabeth Jacoba Lewis (+1918-07-19 Vrededorp,
Johannesburg) ,
Pretoria.
Hulle kinders: Aletha Welmina Christiana Louiza *1897-07-10, x Adam
Johannes de Beer, xxHendrik Christiaan Smith
Joseph Stevanis Erasmis *1899-03-26
Heiltje Elizabeth * 1902-7-14, xAndries Jacobus Smith
Gezina Elizabeth Jacoba *1903-01-21, x Jacobus van der Schyff
Hendrik Johannes Jacobus *1906-12-14, x Maria Margaretha du Toit
Welhelmina Chtistina *1909-01-06, x Gysbert Jacobus du Plessis
Maria Magdalena Cornelis *1912-07-22, x Karel Volschenk
Gerhardus Petrus Johannes *1916-07-07, x Elizabeth de Bruin
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XX Marie Margaret Blake (x Willem R. Cleinwerck)
Linda Bester
Posbus 59326
Karenpark
0118
Tel: (012) 525-1049
Sel: 072-349-1697
Email: [email protected]
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SAGenealogie is ‘n poslys vir die bespreking van genealogiese en
genealogies-verwante aangeleenthede alleenlik, onderhewig aan die
voorwaardes soos uitgespel by http://www.sagenealogie.com Lede wat
aangeleenthede wil opper wat nie van 'n suiwer genealogiese aard is
nie, word versoek om dit nie op die poslys te doen nie, maar dit
liefs van die lys af direk aan die betrokkene te stuur. Probleme,
klagtes en voorstelle vir verbetering moet gestuur word aan:
Besoek ons webblad by:
http://www.sagenealogie.com
http://www.sagenealogy.com
Yahoo! Groups Links
5a. [Hulp] Olivier
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:57 am (PST)
1. Jan Johannes Stefanus Olivier (#313) died on an unknown date. He
married
Petronella Johanna Olivier [Burger] (#312).
Children of Jan Johannes Stefanus Olivier (#313) and Petronella
Johanna
Olivier [Burger] (#312)
i.
2.
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(Basie) Jan Johannes Stefanus Olivier (#2669) was born on Jan. 14,
1899 and
died on an unknown date.
ii.
3.
(Trosie) Johanna Catharina Maria Mosterd [Olivier] (#318) was born
on Aug.
11, 1901 and died on an unknown date.
iii.
4.
Petronella Johanna Burger Schwartz [Olivier] (#65) was born on May
7, 1905
in Ladismith, Cape and died on Jan. 16, 1958 in Klipstraat, Prince
Albert.
iv.
5.
(Pikkies) Margaretha Maria Susanna Botes [Olivier] (#314) was born
on May 7,
1905 and died on an unknown date.
v.
6.
Schalk Willem Olivier (#2670) was born on Jul. 22, 1906 in Prince
Albert.
Is daar dalk iemand wat hierdie name het asb
Marietta van Zyl
IMPALA PARK
Suid Afrika
Huis: 0118945917
Sel no: 0827765998
Faks: 0867563254
Epos: [email protected]
Familieboom:
-
George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
5b. Re: [Hulp] Olivier
Posted by: "Sarel Burger" [email protected] sarel.burger
Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:40 am (PST)
Marietta,
Ek het die volgende inligting oor die gesin. Sarel Burger,
Stellenbosch
Familiegroeprekord vir Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER
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Man: Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER [20344]
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==
Gebore:
Gedoop:
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Huwelik: Plek: [MRIN:8083]
====================================================================
=========
==
Vrou: Petronella Johanna BURGER [4193] (1)
====================================================================
=========
==
Gebore: 21 Jun 1871
Gedoop: 8 Sept 1872 - Prins Albert
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Vader: Schalk Willem BURGER [911] (1826- )
Moeder: Johanna Maria Catharina GIEBELER [3511] (Ca. 1833-1878)
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==
Kinders
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====================================================================
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==
1 M Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER [20345]
Gebore: 4 Jan 1899
Gedoop: 21 Feb 1900 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
2 V Johanna Catharina Maria OLIVIER [20346]
Gebore: 11 Aug 1901
Gedoop: 22 Mrt 1902 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
3 V Margaretha Maria Susanna OLIVIER [20347]
Gebore: 7 Mei 1905
Gedoop: 17 Aug 1905 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
4 V Petronella Johanna Burger OLIVIER [20348]
Gebore: 7 Mei 1905
Gedoop: 17 Aug 1905 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede: 16 Jan 1958 - Prins Albert
Begrawe: - Prins Albert
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
5 M Schalk Willem OLIVIER [20349]
Gebore: 22 Jul 1906
Gedoop: 19 Mei 1907 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
Laas Gewysig: 20 Okt 2011
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==
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Bronverwysings
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==
1. E-pos, Talita Lofty-Eaton, Swakopmund, [email protected],
25.03.2010.
2. Ibid, Alta le Roux, Dorpshuis, Oudtshoorn,
18.10.2011.
-------Original Message-------
From: Marietta van Zyl
Date: 02/02/12 11:04:25
Subject: [SA-Gen] [Hulp] Olivier
1. Jan Johannes Stefanus Olivier (#313) died on an unknown date. He
married
Petronella Johanna Olivier [Burger] (#312).
5c. Re: [Hulp] Olivier
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Thu Feb 2, 2012 2:08 am (PST)
Baie dankie.
Die no 4 is my ouma en no 3 haar tweelingsuster. Ek weet ook dat die
van
BURGER as name vir sommige van die kinders gegee is, soos my een
tante het
dit ook as ‘n naam.
Burger Olivier byvoorbeeld is van die seuns genoem. Het jy dalk
inligting
oor dit? Ek kan dalk vir jou help op meer informasie van sommige
hieronder.
Sou jy belangstel. Kyk rooi….(no 4)
Groete
-
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Sarel Burger
Sent: 02 February 2012 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] [Hulp] Olivier
Marietta,
Ek het die volgende inligting oor die gesin. Sarel Burger,
Stellenbosch
Familiegroeprekord vir Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER
====================================================================
========
=
==
Man: Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER [20344]
====================================================================
========
=
==
Gebore:
Gedoop:
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Huwelik: Plek: [MRIN:8083]
====================================================================
========
=
==
Vrou: Petronella Johanna BURGER [4193] (1)
====================================================================
========
=
==
Gebore: 21 Jun 1871
Gedoop: 8 Sept 1872 - Prins Albert
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Vader: Schalk Willem BURGER [911] (1826- )
Moeder: Johanna Maria Catharina GIEBELER [3511] (Ca. 1833-1878)
====================================================================
========
=
==
Kinders
====================================================================
========
=
==
1 M Jan Johannes Stefanus OLIVIER [20345]
Gebore: 4 Jan 1899
Gedoop: 21 Feb 1900 - Prins Albert (2)
-
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
2 V Johanna Catharina Maria OLIVIER [20346]
Gebore: 11 Aug 1901
Gedoop: 22 Mrt 1902 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
3 V Margaretha Maria Susanna OLIVIER [20347]
Gebore: 7 Mei 1905
Gedoop: 17 Aug 1905 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
4 V Petronella Johanna Burger OLIVIER [20348]
Gebore: 7 Mei 1905
Gedoop: 17 Aug 1905 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede: 16 Jan 1958 - Prins Albert
Begrawe: - Prins Albert
Gade: (Jan) Johan Georg(e) Gabriël(le) Schwartz Apr 9 1882 te
Fraserburg en
oorlede Sep 20 1954 te Prince Albert
Huw. Datum: About 1931 Te Beaufort Wes
----------------------------------------------------------
--
5 M Schalk Willem OLIVIER [20349]
Gebore: 22 Jul 1906
Gedoop: 19 Mei 1907 - Prins Albert (2)
Oorlede:
Begrawe:
Gade:
Huw. Datum:
----------------------------------------------------------
--
Laas Gewysig: 20 Okt 2011
====================================================================
========
=
==
Bronverwysings
====================================================================
========
-
=
==
1. E-pos, Talita Lofty-Eaton, Swakopmund, [email protected]
, 25.03.2010.
2. Ibid, Alta le Roux, Dorpshuis, Oudtshoorn,
,
18.10.2011.
-------Original Message-------
From: Marietta van Zyl
Date: 02/02/12 11:04:25
Subject: [SA-Gen] [Hulp] Olivier
1. Jan Johannes Stefanus Olivier (#313) died on an unknown date. He
married
Petronella Johanna Olivier [Burger] (#312).
-
Onderwerp: [SA-Gen] Bundel Nommer 5095
Datum: Thu Feb 2, 2012
Daar is 25 boodskappe in hierdie uitgawe
Onderwerpe in hierdie bundel:
1a. moodie From: Andrew Kok
1b. Re: moodie From: Johan Brink
2a. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
From: Francois van Niekerk
2b. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
From: Marietta van Zyl
3a. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Annelie Els
3b. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Carol Beneke
3c. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Jannie Frey
3d. Re: Beneke x Vrey From: Annelie Els
4. FW: Emailing: totale-Aanvalle en sterfte statistiek vanaf 1990
tot 2 From: Stefaans Cilliers
5. LDS doop rekords op FamilySearch From: anita slabbert
6. [koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Jan 2012 From: P Marx
7. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01 Febr 2012 From: P Marx
8. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Febr 2012 From: P Marx
9a. Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Johan Pottas
9b. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: janbos2000
9c. Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Johan Vermeulen
9d. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Gert Esterhuizen
9e. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Pienie Smith
9f. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Annelie Els
9g. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Daan Hamman
9h. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Gerhardus
Frederik Oosthuizen
9i. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Gustav & René
Pansegrouw
9j. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012 From: Charlie Els
10a. Re: Hennig From: Mariana Olivier
11a. Re: Reynders- inligting. From: Faan Naude, Rietfontein,
PRETORIA
1a. moodie
Posted by: "Andrew Kok" [email protected] jakok2001
Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:23 am (PST)
Hallo Johan
Aldus Overberg Origens die volgende:
-
Donald MOODIE* 29/12/1827 Grootvadersbosch, + 13/08/1920
Grootvadersbosch
X 1870 Worcester
May Elizabeth COX, + 1870
XX 7/3/1873
Helen Joanna McINTYRE* 1852, + 1939 Sy was van Ceres.
1.1.4.5 Thomas Dunbar MOODIE, * 06/06/1880 Grootvadersbosch, +
29/02/1963
Kaapstad
X 04/07/1908
Isabella Norah ENGLISH, * 1884, + 1974
1.1.4.5.2 Graham Dunbar MOODIE,
X 04/10/1939
Sheila Donald GOW, *1911
Volgens Burrows het Graham 'n BSc aan Rhodes behaal en was hy ook
die Army
Chief of Staff.
Groete
Andrew Kok
--
Dr Andrew Kok
Durbanville
082 500 6758
1b. Re: moodie
Posted by: "Johan Brink" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:31 am (PST)
Hallo Andrew en ook Trienie,
Baie dankie vir die hulp met die voltooiing van dié MOODIE-prentjie.
Ek waardeer jul belangstelling.
Net 'n paar opmerkings op die laaste inset van Andrew, waaroor ek
nog duidelikheid sal moet kry:
(1) Geb dat van (b4) Donald MOODIE is of 1926 of 1927? Die dp rgstr
sal dalk die antwoord gee!
(2) Sy huwelik het ek as 11.11.1871. Dit kan egter ook 1870 wees
want sy vrou Mary Elizabeth COX is oorlede 1870 of 1871 (seker met
-
geboorte van 'n 1ste-ling) [Verw: haar SK KAB MOOC 6/9/137-
7706/1871, wat ek nog nie onder die oë gehad het nie!]
(3) Ek het sy 2de huw as 5 of 7 Mrt 1873?
(4) Helen Joanne MCINTYRE se boedel is reeds in 1936 opgestel. Is
dit dalk haar sterfdatum eerder as 1939? [Verw: Haar boedeldoke per
KAB MOOC 6/9/4825-51887/1936, wat ek ook nog nie onder die oë gehad
het nie!]
(5) Isabella Nora(h) MOODIE née ENGLISH is te George Bgrfpls begrawe
en haar grafskrif lui: 1884 -1979 [Verw: eGGSA se Graftergstr met
foto's]
(6) Ja, ek dink die BSc pas meer in by sy 1ste werk as landmeter!
(7) Burrows se term "Chief of Army Staff" was heeltemal korrek. Ten
tye van MOODIE se diens was hierdie term (in Afr: Hoof van Leërstaf)
die adjunk van die "Chief of the Army"/Hoof van die Leër. Later het
die benaming vir daardie pos die meer beskrywende "Adjunk-Hoof van
die Leër" (Eng: Deputy Chief of the Army), met die rang van
generaal-majoor (Eng: major general), geword.
Met vriendelike groete
Johan
Melkbosstrand
082 328 9453
[BRINK, EAGAR/EAGER en (VON) DURING]
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Kok
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: [SA-Gen] moodie
Hallo Johan
Aldus Overberg Origens die volgende:
Donald MOODIE* 29/12/1827 Grootvadersbosch, + 13/08/1920
Grootvadersbosch
X 1870 Worcester
May Elizabeth COX, + 1870
XX 7/3/1873
Helen Joanna McINTYRE* 1852, + 1939 Sy was van Ceres.
1.1.4.5 Thomas Dunbar MOODIE, * 06/06/1880 Grootvadersbosch, +
29/02/1963
Kaapstad
X 04/07/1908
Isabella Norah ENGLISH, * 1884, + 1974
1.1.4.5.2 Graham Dunbar MOODIE,
X 04/10/1939
Sheila Donald GOW, *1911
Volgens Burrows het Graham 'n BSc aan Rhodes behaal en was hy ook
die Army
Chief of Staff.
-
Groete
Andrew Kok
--
Dr Andrew Kok
Durbanville
082 500 6758
2a. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
Posted by: "Francois van Niekerk" [email protected]
francoisvanniekerk82
Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:53 am (PST)
Beste lys
Bestaan daar nie dalk so 'n link vir Willowmore doop-en
huweliksregisters nie?
Francois van Niekerk
Beaufort-Wes
2b. Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS - LDS SKAKELS
Posted by: "Marietta van Zyl" [email protected]
mariettavanzyl
Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:03 am (PST)
Asb ek wil ook weet, baie dankie.
Marietta van Zyl
IMPALA PARK
Suid Afrika
Huis: 0118945917
Sel no: 0827765998
-
Faks: 0867563254
Epos: [email protected]
Familieboom:
George van Zyl and Marietta Gouws tree Web Site
VANNE: Van Zyl, Gouws, Burness, Schwartz, Olivier, Thorpe, Fourie,
Snyman,
Bezuidenhoudt, Greeff, Marè, Stolk
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Francois van Niekerk
Sent: 02 February 2012 01:53 PM
Subject: [SA-Gen] Re: UNIONDALE DOOPREGISTERS & HUWELIKREGISTERS -
LDS
SKAKELS
Beste lys
Bestaan daar nie dalk so 'n link vir Willowmore doop-en
huweliksregisters
nie?
Francois van Niekerk
Beaufort-Wes
_____
3a. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:59 am (PST)
Hi Kobus,
Dankie vir die.
Ek het na dit gekyk maar die probleem is die dame se name..
Jannie soek na
Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke
-
Al wat dieselfde voorkom is die DINA..
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Kobus Farrell
Sent: 02 February 2012 07:53 AM
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Goeie more
Kyk in SAG onder b15c11d5 Dina Johanna Magdalena *16 - 06 -1856 =
George 23
-11 -1856 x Jacobus VREY
Groete
Kobus Farrell
3b. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Carol Beneke" [email protected] carolbeneke
Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:42 am (PST)
Hi Annelie en Kobus,
Hier is die oorspronklike e-pos.
Hallo,
Enige kans dat daar 'n Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke in jou
navorsing was. Sy was my ouma grootjie (moeder van my oupa JD Frey
gebore Okt 1898).
Sy was getroud met Daniel Johannes Frey
Groete Jannie Frey
Groete
Carol
From: Annelie Els
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:59 PM
-
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hi Kobus,
Dankie vir die.
Ek het na dit gekyk maar die probleem is die dame se name..
Jannie soek na
Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke
Al wat dieselfde voorkom is die DINA..
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Goeie more
Kyk in SAG onder b15c11d5 Dina Johanna Magdalena *16 - 06 -1856 =
George 23
-11 -1856 x Jacobus VREY
Groete
Kobus Farrell
3c. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Jannie Frey" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:45 am (PST)
Hallo.
Het ek nou konsternasie veroorsaak???
Jannie
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hi Annelie en Kobus,
Hier is die oorspronklike e-pos.
Hallo,
-
Enige kans dat daar 'n Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke in jou
navorsing
was. Sy was my ouma grootjie (moeder van my oupa JD Frey gebore Okt
1898).
Sy was getroud met Daniel Johannes Frey
Groete Jannie Frey
Groete
Carol
From: Annelie Els
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hi Kobus,
Dankie vir die.
Ek het na dit gekyk maar die probleem is die dame se name..
Jannie soek na
Dina Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke
Al wat dieselfde voorkom is die DINA..
Groetnis
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Goeie more
Kyk in SAG onder b15c11d5 Dina Johanna Magdalena *16 - 06 -1856 =
George 23
-11 -1856 x Jacobus VREY
Groete
Kobus Farrell
3d. Re: Beneke x Vrey
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:36 am (PST)
Hallo Jannie,
Konsternasie ??? hier word dan stukke gekoukus oor jou oumagrootjie
!!!
-
Ek wonder wie was hierdie grootjie van jou (* +- 1860s raaiskoot) se
ouma na
wie sy vernoem is??
Annelie Els
Pretoria.
My Grootjies (Pa):-Heever x Stassen & Liebenberg x Badenhorst
(Ma):-Vrey x Scott & Viljoen x vd Berg
Paul se Grootjies (Pa):- Els x Schalkwyk & Badenhorst x Engelbrech
(Ma):- Els x Vermaak & Rainer x Bruyns
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jannie Frey
Sent: 02 February 2012 03:45 PM
Subject: RE: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hallo.
Het ek nou konsternasie veroorsaak???
Jannie
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Carol Beneke
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SA-Gen] Beneke x Vrey
Hi Annelie en Kobus,
Hier is die oorspronklike e-pos.
Hallo,
Enige kans dat daar 'n Carolina Jacoba Catharina Beneke in jou
navorsing
was. Sy was my ouma grootjie (moeder van my oupa JD Frey gebore Okt
1898).
Sy was getroud met Daniel Johannes Frey
Groete Jannie Frey
4. FW: Emailing: totale-Aanvalle en sterfte statistiek vanaf 1990
tot 2
Posted by: "Stefaans Cilliers" [email protected]
stefaanscilliers
Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:17 am (PST)
-
Lys lede,
Die aanhangsel gee slegs die blankes wat vermoor en mishandel is aan
op die
plattelandse gebiede en sluit dus die aanvalle in stedelike gebiede
uit.
Volgens my inligting verteenwoordig die beskikbare statistiek
ongeveer een
derde van die groot totaal. Daar is in die stede dus dubbel soveel
vermoor
as op die platteland. Die statistiek verteenwoordig ook slegs die
wat in die
media verskyn het. Daar kom daagliks nog "nuwe" getalle by wat deur
familielede verskaf word met ID no's en geboortedatums en sterfte
datums.
Stefaans Cilliers
5. LDS doop rekords op FamilySearch
Posted by: "anita slabbert" [email protected]
anita_slabbert
Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:45 am (PST)
Dag mense
Ek sien die Colesberg registers is gesorteer onder Transvaal....net
ingeval
iemand dit gesoek het by die Kaap. Seker maar net 'n foutjie.
Goedgaan
Anita
6. [koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31 Jan 2012
Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:55 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle
DU PREEZ, Sarel Petrus (Oupa Dup). 72 jaar. +Maandag 30 Jan 2012 op
Uitenhage.
Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Roudiens Woensdag 01 Febr
2012 10:00
Ou Apostoliese kerk, Handelstraat, Despatch. Verassing privaat.
-
(Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/01/2012) Oos-Kaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992
5704
ENGELBRECHT, Derek. 70 jaar. +Donderdag 26 Jan 2012. Vrou, kinders,
kleinkind.
Gedenkdiens Dinsdag 31 Jan 2012 NG Kerk Sunland. (Die Burger Oos-
Kaap 31/01/2012)
J T Schooling Ondernemers Kirkwood 042 230 0508 / 082 718 2717
HERRIDGE, Maria Margarietha Johanna Jacoba (Poppie). +Saterdag 28
Jan 2012.
Kinders, kleindogter, suster. Troosdiens Vrydag 03 Febr 2012 14:00
NG Kerk Noord-
gemeente, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/01/2012)
Priscilla Davis AVBOB Despatch 041 933 2039
KLEINHANS, Cornelius Petrus. +Sondag 29 Jan 2012. Vrou, kinders,
kleinkinders,
agterkleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Woensdag 01 Febr 2012 11:30 NG
Kerk,
St. Leonardsweg, Algoapark. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger
Oos-Kaap 31/01/2012)
Jan van der Westhuizen Algoa Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874
(2 berigte)
VENTER, Hennie (Brig.) Ons gaan Hennie onthou as 'n liefdevolle
eggenoot, pa en oupa.
Mercia, Gerrit, Elvin, Lelani, Nydine en al die kleinkinders.
Roudiens Dinsdag 31 Jan 2012
14:00 NG Kerk Patmos, Kaapweg 79, Port Elizabeth. Verassing privaat.
(Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/01/2012) Anna-Marie First Avenue Funeral
Home 041 581 5028
In Memoriam
GREEN, Daniël William. 18/06/1964 - 31/01/2010. Vrou en kinders
Leatricia, Henrico en
Lené. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 31/01/2012)
Hester Marx
Loerie
7. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01 Febr 2012
Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:04 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle
ALCHIN, Curt. In liefdevolle herinnering aan my vriend wat Saterdag
28 Jan 2012
-
tragies gesterf het. Hans EISENBERG, Namibië. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap
01/02/2012)
BLIGNAUT, Pieter. +28 Januarie 2012. Lorraine, Morné, Sanet,
kinders. Begrafnisdiens
Woensdag 01 Febr 2012 14:00 NG Kerk De Mist, Uitenhage.
(Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01/02/2012)
LINES, Thomas. (Uncle Tommy). +Maandag 30 Jan 2012. My man vir 51
jaar.
Jou vrou Lillian. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 01/02/2012)
Hester Marx
Loerie
8. [Koerant] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02 Febr 2012
Posted by: "P Marx" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:30 am (PST)
Sterfgevalle
BOOYSEN, Myrtle. (gebore MAFEKING) *05/07/1953. +Sondag 29 Jan 2012.
Man, kinders, kleinkinders. Diens Saterdag 04 Febr 2012 12:00
Roselane
Congregational Kerk, Uitenhage. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 02/02/2012)
FERREIRA, Theunissina Fredrika Catharina (Tannie Rose) née MOOLMAN.
*25/08/1913.
+Maandag 30 Jan 2012 op Humansdorp. Kinders, kleinkinders,
agterkleinkinders.
Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 03 Febr 2012 11:00 NG Kerk Moedergemeente,
Humansdorp.
Munisipale-begraafplaas, Humansdorp. (Die Burger 02/02/2012)
Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230
KRUGER, Johannes (Hannes). +Dinsdag 31 Jan 2012. Eggenote Rita,
Anton, Ilse, Adam,
Carika, Morné, Carli. Diens Saterdag 04 Febr 2012 10:00 NG Kerk
Suid-gemeente,
Despatch. Forest Hill-begraafplaas, Port Elizabeth. (Die Burger Oos-
Kaap 02/02/2012)
Priscilla Davis AVBOB Despatch 041 933 2039
Hester Marx
Loerie
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9a. Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Johan Pottas" [email protected] pottasjj
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:32 am (PST)
Dag almal
Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount, versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
Stuur later meer besonderhede.
groete
Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
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9b. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "janbos2000" [email protected] janbos2000
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:57 am (PST)
Johan,
Innige simpatie aan jou en jou familie. Mag die Hemelse Vader vir
julle vertroosting bring terwyl jul oor jou vader treur.
Groete,
Johannes Bosch
Virginia, VSA
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--- In [email protected], "Johan Pottas"
wrote:
>
> Dag almal
>
> Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount, versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
>
> Stuur later meer besonderhede.
>
> groete
>
> Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
> Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
> Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
> Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
> Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
> Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
> Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> University of the Free State: This message and its contents are
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>
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> __________________________________________________________
>
9c. Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Johan Vermeulen" [email protected] vermeulenjpsa
Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:57 am (PST)
Johan,
My innige simpatie.
Ons dink aan julle.
Baie sterkte
Johan Vermeulen.
9d. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
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Posted by: "Gert Esterhuizen" [email protected] jorgeestreux
Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:04 am (PST)
Johan,
Innige simpatie aan jou en die familie!
Gert
2012/2/2 Johan Pottas
> **
>
>
> Dag almal
>
> Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
> Paramount, versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
>
> Stuur later meer besonderhede.
>
> groete
>
> Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
> Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
> Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
> Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
> Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
> Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
> Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> University of the Free State: This message and its contents are
subject to
> a disclaimer.
> Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details.
>
> Universiteit van die Vrystaat:
> Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule
onderhewig.
> Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring
beskikbaar.
> __________________________________________________________
>
>
9e. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Pienie Smith" [email protected] philippinasmith
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Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:05 am (PST)
Johan
Baie sterkte vir die familie. Bid vir julle vir vertroosting.
Pienie Smith
----- Original Message -----
From: Johan Pottas
To: Buitenposten ; SAGenealogie
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Dag almal
Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount, versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
Stuur later meer besonderhede.
groete
Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
__________________________________________________________
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Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details.
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onderhewig.
Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring
beskikbaar.
__________________________________________________________
9f. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Annelie Els" [email protected] engelkind2000
Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:15 am (PST)
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Hallo Johan en Fam.
Ons opregte meegevoel met die afsterwe van jou Pappie.
Mag ons Hemelse Vader jul troos met die gedagte dat hy daar nou geen
meer
pyn het nie.
Groetnis
Paul en Annelie
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Johan Pottas
Sent: 02 February 2012 03:32 PM
To: Buitenposten; SAGenealogie
Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Dag almal
Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount,
versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
Stuur later meer besonderhede.
groete
9g. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Daan Hamman" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 6:31 am (PST)
Hallo Johan en Familie,
Ons opregte meegevoel met die verlies.
Mag ons Hemelse Vader julle vertroos met die wonderlike herinneringe
wat
julle van hom het.
Groetnis
Daan en Pierrette
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Johan Pottas
Sent: 02 February 2012 03:32 PM
To: Buitenposten; SAGenealogie
Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Dag almal
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Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount,
versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
Stuur later meer besonderhede.
groete
Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
__________________________________________________________
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subject to a
disclaimer.
Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details.
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onderhewig.
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__________________________________________________________
9h. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Gerhardus Frederik Oosthuizen" [email protected]
oomoosie
Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:18 am (PST)
Johan
My opregte medelye aan jou en jullle hele familie met jul verlies.
Sterkte
GerritO
Gerhardus Frederik (Gerrit) Oosthuizen.
2012/2/2 Daan Hamman
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>
>
> Hallo Johan en Familie,
>
> Ons opregte meegevoel met die verlies.
>
> Mag ons Hemelse Vader julle vertroos met die wonderlike
herinneringe wat
> julle van hom het.
>
> Groetnis
>
> Daan en Pierrette
>
>
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> Behalf Of Johan Pottas
> Sent: 02 February 2012 03:32 PM
> To: Buitenposten; SAGenealogie
> Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
>
> Dag almal
>
> Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
> Paramount,
> versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
>
> Stuur later meer besonderhede.
>
> groete
>
> Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
> Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
> Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
> Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
> Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
> Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
> Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> University of the Free State: This message and its contents are
subject to
> a
> disclaimer.
> Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details.
>
> Universiteit van die Vrystaat:
> Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule
onderhewig.
> Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring
beskikbaar.
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> __________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
9i. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Gustav & René Pansegrouw" [email protected]
Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:19 am (PST)
Beste Johan en Eureka
Ons innigste simpatie met julle groot verlies.
Hartlike groete
Staaf en René
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Johan Pottas
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:32
To: Buitenposten; SAGenealogie
Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Dag almal
Net om julle te laat weet dat my pa vanmiddag om 15:10 oorlede in
Paramount,
versorgingseenheid in Windhoek.
Stuur later meer besonderhede.
groete
Johan J Pottas IKT / ICT
Universiteit Vrystaat / University Free State
Tel: +27-51-401-2767 werk
Tel: +27-51-522-7329 huis
Tel: +27-82-569-3727 sel
Faks: +27-51-401-2765 werk
Posbus 34559, Faunasig, 9325
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9j. Re: Skerf POTTAS 26/04/1926 - 02/02/2012
Posted by: "Charlie Els" [email protected] charlieels
Thu Feb 2, 2012 8:53 am (PST)
Ai, Johan dit bly maar 'n swaar ding. Ons dink aan jou en wens julle
sterkte
toe.
CHARLIE
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Johan Pottas
Sent: 02 February 2012 03:32 PM
To: Buitenposten; SAGenealogie
Subject: [SA-Gen] Skerf POTTAS 26/04/19