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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII of 24 Neale Donald Walsch October 25, 2011 Copyright 2011, all rights reserved Jennifer McLean | Healing with the Masters | www.McLeanMasterWorks.com

Host Volume VIII | October 25, 2011 Guest

Jennifer McLean HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM Neale Donald Walsch

Jennifer: Welcome, everyone, to Healing with the Masters. I am so grateful to have all of you here

tonight. Masters, it means so much, and yet it really means that you are the master, that you in this audience, you, the participant, are the masters of your own life. No one knows you better than you, and you have everything you need to be the master that you are seeking. You make the difference. You matter. You can change the world.

Tonight we are happy and so honored to, once again, welcome regular guest Neale Donald

Walsch to Healing with the Masters. Neale is a modern‐day spiritual messenger, whose words continue to touch the world in very profound ways. He is very well‐known for his famous Conversation with God series that’s been translated into 34 languages, touching millions of lives and inspiring important changes in everyone’s day‐to‐day life, not to mention the planet. Neale is an inspiration to me personally. He has shifted the way that I think about spirituality. He has shined a light into my heart and allowed me to see things in new ways through his wonderful inspirational works and his really incredible programs that we have co‐produced together, as well as his interviews here with Healing with the Masters. I’m once again honored to say hello, Wayne. Wayne. God. Neale, that was a nice faux pas. How’d I do so far?

Neale: Hi. How are you? Jennifer: Welcome, Neale, to the show. It’s so great having you back again. Neale: Thank you. It’s lovely to be here. Jennifer: Neale, there’s lots going on in our world right now, and we have this magnificent thing coming

up in 2012. I know that since the last time we talked — you always are learning new things and discovering new things. I’m just curious if there’s anything new that you’ve been really playing with of late that you would like to share with us as we prepare for this special year and 11‐11‐11 coming up in a week or two.

Neale: Well, I don't know if it’s terribly new, but I have been looking deeply at the old in perhaps

another way. I’ve been kind of formulating my viewpoint about what’s going on in the world right now around seven simple questions, and in the book that I’ve just published, two weeks ago, which is called The Storm Before the Calm, I pose those seven questions. I urge humanity to pose those seven questions, first of themselves and second of everyone else they know. That is, I invite people to ask themselves the seven questions and to do some deep internalization. Then after they feel like they’ve received their latest and best answer to those seven questions, I’m inviting people to really engage the planet or the part of the planet that



they touch. I’m asking people to really begin what I’m calling a global conversation and to ask those seven questions of everybody, their friends, co‐workers, even newly‐found friends who have been strangers just a short time ago, anybody we meet really. In fact, I’m asking people to actually start discussion groups in their home if they really want to use the power of conversation to assist and change the world as we move through this period of time that I’m calling the overhaul of humanity.

That’s what I’m really understanding is happening right now. We are moving through the

overhaul of humanity. I looked up the word overhaul in the dictionary. It doesn’t mean really to destroy anything or disassemble anything. It means to examine closely and to correct any errors or to make any repairs that need to be made to a system or to a machine, as one would overhaul an engine. So that’s what the word overhaul means, and I see that we now are, in fact, doing exactly that, examining our system very closely and then putting in repairs where they clearly need to be made. That is going to create, as I point out in the book, some upheaval. I don’t believe it will be the end of life as we know it on the planet, and I don’t believe it’s going to be upheaval at the level of destroying entire countries or systems by which we live our lives. A lot of people and a lot of sources are predicting that kind of upheaval, at that level. I don’t see that.

What I do see is, without question, substantial, shifting and changing around as we begin to

repair the systems by which we live, and those reparations, the repairs that we’re making, will be made in two ways: one, intentionally and two, non‐intentionally, that is, as a consequence of what we’re doing or not doing. So we can decide now whether we want all of the changes that are going to occur in the next 12 to 24 months, whether we want those changes to occur with our intention, with our full participation, or whether we choose to be simply bystanders and just watching from a distance as the system moves into self‐correction, as the system corrects itself without our intentioned direction.

That would not be the way I would choose for the human race to go, so I’ve asked humanity to

focus its attention on the process by which we might all engage in intentioned‐affecting of the process of our overhaul, process of our remaking ourselves into a brand new kind of species here in the next 24, loosely, 24 to 36 months. How we can do that is through the powerful tool of communication and of conversation. As Margaret Wheatley, the wonderful anthropologist, has said many times, there’s nothing more powerful, really, to shift our global reality than simple conversation. Every revolution of every kind has begun with a simple conversation, with a number of people saying, “We find this now no longer tolerable.” That is, we find life or some aspect of the life we’re living no longer acceptable, no longer tolerable, but we don’t choose to change it with violence, and we don’t choose to change it, for that matter, with anger but simply with the energy of gentle, loving correction, as in not that way, this way. Just don’t go down that path. Go down this path, again, absent of anger and absent of violence. Just a simple correction made from a place of gentle wisdom, and that’s very, very powerful. Those kinds of changes can be remarkably powerful in allowing us a course correcting, changing the course in which humanity is headed.

So I have launched, actually, since you asked this question, and this is what needs to be done.

I’ve launched what I call the Global Conversation, and that is a place on the Internet where people can gather to have the conversation I’m now discussing on the Internet. The conversation would revolve around seven simple questions, and let me say this: I was told, in


my communication with the divine — and we all, of course, have the ability to have those communications. In my meditations and my communications, it’s been made very clear to me that what humanity is desperately seeking now, what it is yearning for and what it is desperately needing is a new cultural story, that is, a new story that we tell about ourselves to ourselves and a new story that we tell about ourselves to others, that is to our children and to their children and so forth.

The story we’re now telling is really all mixed up from the top down. The story we tell each

other about God or that thing that some of us call deity or the supreme power, that story is really kind of crazy and really messed up. The story that we tell ourselves about everything else, governance, politics on the planet, economy and commerce and how that most effectively could work to bring the highest benefit to the largest number of people, that’s kind of not very effective, not a beneficial story. The other stories that we tell ourselves as well about everything really, marriage, partnering, parenting, sexuality, a right livelihood, health and virtually every aspect of our human experience, we are really coming from an old, if not to say ancient, cultural story. That’s basically the problem. The cultural story doesn’t serve us anymore.

The cultural story begins with an extraordinary mis‐assessment or misunderstanding of what is

really true. So what I’m asking people to do on that website, as a beginning, not as an ending but as a beginning, is to jump on that website and take a look at whether they would like to help us write a new cultural story. On the website, you’ll find many, many different categories, the words I’ve just mentioned. What is our new cultural story in governance, in environment and ecology, in business and commerce, in industry, in education, in parenting, in marriage, in spirituality and all the other areas in which we interact? I’m inviting the world’s people to join me now in creating and writing a new cultural story in response to the seven simple questions.

The first one might be the most profound question of all. The first question that I invite people

to engage, both online and in their homes, in real time, with people, is this: how is it possible for nearly seven billion people to all say they want the same thing and be able to produce it? How, in an age of extraordinary technology, when we claim to be an advanced or at least an advancing species in our evolution — we’ve advanced in our evolution considerably, so we tell ourselves. How is it possible then for seven billion people to all want fundamentally the same thing, peace, prosperity, safety of course, security, health, happiness, joy, love, fulfillment, opportunity — we all want the same thing. Those who don’t want those things are in the vast minority. Perhaps 0.2 percent of the people, for whatever reasons, don’t want those things, but that’s the shopping list for most of us. Here we are, seven billion of us seeking to create this for the largest number of us and not for a week, not for the past month or the past year or the past ten years or the past hundred years, but in fact, we’ve been trying to produce that on this planet now for thousands and thousands of years.

If we were in a science laboratory, we would have given up this experiment a long time ago, or

we would have concluded there’s some data missing. There’s something we don’t fully understand here, the understanding of which would change everything, and that’s the second question. The second question is: do you suppose it’s possible that there’s something we don’t fully understand about God, about life, the understanding of which would change


everything and make it possible at last, after thousands of years of trying, to produce what we all claim we want for ourselves and for each other?

Question number three: is it possible that there’s something we don’t understand about

ourselves, that is individually, who we are and what’s true about us, the understanding of which would alter our individual lives for the better forever? Following those three persistent questions, which, by the way, no one is asking — I would love it if the President of the United States or the prime minister of some other country or the pope or the chief imam or the chief rabbi or whoever it might be or all of them together, for that matter — I would love it if one or all of them would stand up in front of a world assembly and say, “How is it possible for a planet full of people, who all claim to want the same thing, to be unable to produce it?” We can put a man on the moon. We can split the atom. We can unravel the DNA code of all human beings and of all of life, but we simply can’t find a way to live in peace, harmony and prosperity after thousands of years of trying. What’s the missing data here?

Now, the four final questions of the seven that I ask people to ask themselves probe that

problem. Question number one of the final four: who am I? I invite people to look at that question every day. Who am I? That is, what is my true and ultimate identity? Question number two: where am I? That is, where in the universe am I? Where in the overall scheme of things am I? I don’t want a planet like, “I’m on the planet Earth.” We all know that, but what is the planet Earth? What is that? What is this place in which we have found ourselves, in which, if you please, we have placed ourselves quite deliberately? What is this place? Question number three: why are we where we are? Why am I in this place that I find myself in? And question number four, the final question, the ultimate question: what do I intend to do about that?

I want to make one last suggestion, and then I’ll stop talking. I’m dangerous. You ask me a

question; I’ll talk for 45 minutes. Jennifer: I love that about you, Neale. I love it. Neale: Well, because there’s a lot to be said, you see, but this is the ultimate question. What do I

intend to do about that? I am inviting people to take those seven questions out into the world, not just on the Internet, not just to answer them on my website, but in fact to engage people in an ongoing — I call this the conversation of the century, because it will be exactly that. To engage people in an ongoing conversation, sponsor a conversation of the century discussion group in your community. Do it twice a month at the local library or perhaps even in your own home, and begin to engage people everywhere. See, if we had 300,000 people engaged in this conversation, all of a sudden, it would start to move a lot of energy around the planet, asking ourselves the obvious questions, almost painfully obvious questions. How is it possible for all of us to say we want the same thing and be so impotent, so completely, totally, utterly and absolutely, after thousands of years, to produce the outcome? What are we missing here? What are we not getting, and are we willing to look at that?

Now, here’s the problem. To look at that question, we may have to challenge our presently

existing beliefs. Oh, my golly. That’s the first issue here. You mean I’m going to have to challenge what I believe about God, about life, about who I am? This, of course, is the stumbling block, because the one thing that the largest number of people on the planet Earth


do not want to change or look at is what they most fundamentally believe to be true. Therefore the challenge becomes are we willing to change our fundamental belief about what’s true with regard to the thing we call God, life and, for that matter, ourselves and each other, the purpose of all of life and how it actually works, because that’s what the upheaval on the planet right now is all about. It’s going to split humanity into two camps essentially. One camp, what I call the holders on — they’re going to hold on to the way things are, not even because they’re bad people or villains or any of that. It’s just because they’re scared. They don’t know any other way. “Look, look, this is how it is, Neale. Relax. This is how it is.” And so they’re going to hold onto the way it is in governance, in commerce, in the economy, in our environment, in our education, in our spirituality, in every aspect of our life. Don’t rock the boat. This is the system. This is how it is. The second camp will be those who say, like Dr. Phil would say, “How’s that working for you?” After thousands of years, you haven’t produced the simplest outcome, a peaceful, joyful rewarding life for the largest number of you.

If I was hovering in a spaceship from some other planet, just looking at the planet Earth, and if

I could communicate with residents of the planet Earth, inhabitants of the planet Earth, I would say, “How’s that working for you?” When will you conclude that you must be doing something wrong, that there must be something that you don’t quite get? How many more thousands of years, or are you really going to be a living demonstration of the definition of insanity, which of course, as we all know, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting to get a different result?

That’s what we’re doing in our individual lives, the same thing over and over again, like a fly

against the window pane trying to get outside and not getting that that’s not going to work, a fly against the window banging against the window pane 100,000 times, insisting that on 100,001, maybe he’ll break through.

Jennifer: Right. So Neale, how do we become our own living demonstration of freedom, of joy, of love,

of what you talk about as the highest, clearest, grandest feelings? The highest, clearest and grandest, how do we do that?

Neale: I asked God, “What is it that we don’t know, the knowing of which would change all of this?

What is it, dear God, that I don’t understand, the understanding of which would change all of this for me? God, just tell me.” God said, “I will. By the way,” God said, “I’ve been telling all of you through every messenger I know how to send, from the beginning of time. God said to me, “I will tell you, Neale. I will tell you, but understand, you’re not going to be shocked. You’re not going to slap your forehead, ‘I never thought of that.’ You’re going to say, ‘Yeah. I’ve heard that before for thousands of years from every master who has walked the planet, from the Buddha, from Lao Tzu, from Jesus the Christ. From messengers ancient and contemporary, I’ve heard the same thing.’ A thousand times I have told you. Across 100,000 years, in the voice of 100,000 messengers, I have brought you this message. You will not listen, but Neale, since you asked, I will tell you again. What you don’t understand, the understanding of which would change everything is that you’re after the wrong things.”

“What,” I said. “I’m after the wrong things? All I want are good stuff. I just want good stuff

for myself and for humanity, peace, prosperity, opportunity, abundance, joy, happiness, love. That’s all I’m going after.” God said, “How’s that working for you?” “Well, if I’m not supposed to be going after that, then what am I supposed to be going after?” God said, “Drop your


incessant efforts to produce those outcomes. Rather refocus on what you should really be after.” “Okay,” I said. “What is it? Spell it out for me.” “Me,” said God. “I’ll spell it out for you, Neale. M‐e. You should be spending the days and the times and the hours and the moments of your life seeking to express and to experience, through you as you, who you really are. That is, the intent of every moment of your life should be simply to discover, to express and to experience your divinity, even as all the masters, who I’ve just named, have done, even as the Christ did, even as the Buddha did, even as Mohammad did, even as Moses sought to do, even as Paramahansa Yogananda, to name someone much more contemporary, did, even as Thich Nhat Hanh, the great Buddhist monk, has done, even as the Dalai Lama is demonstrating every day of his life.

Do you think the Dalai Lama is concerned whether there’s enough orange juice in the

refrigerator or enough gas in the car or whether his mortgage is paid? His concern is to express and to experience the love, the joy, the compassion, the understanding, the awareness of divinity itself, but not by trying to demonstrate awareness, compassion and love but by rather embracing the notion of his true identity. Or as someone else once said, someone far more articulate than I will ever be, so don’t go around asking, “What are we to eat? What are we to drink? Wherewithal will we clothe ourselves? Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven, and all these things will be added unto you.”

Automatically, once you step into the living of who you really are, the things you thought you

needed to strive for — peace, prosperity, security, health, happiness, love, joy and all the rest — will become part of your life automatically, because the assumption and the embracing of your true identity makes it so automatically.

Do you think that the Buddha was trying to experience abundance or happiness? No, no, no.

He was trying to experience his true nature, and when he stepped into the fullness of his true nature, all the so‐called earthly desires were fulfilled without effort.

Jennifer: Neale, I love the way that you communicate this, because I can feel this energy behind it. I can

feel the audience expanding and opening hearts. I can also feel that some people are saying, “There’s no way I’m ever going to live Buddha’s life.” Do you know what I mean? It’s like, “I get what you’re saying, and I’m starting to feel it more, so much so that I get surprised sometimes when I bump into three‐dimensional posits.” When I bump into things like contracts and negotiations and stuff like that, it’s like, “Well, don’t you know that it’s all going to work out?” So how do we live that and yet have to pay our rent and yet — I mean, it’s such a subtle switch in thinking, but it’s important to understand not the how but the feeling sense. I don’t know how to describe it.

Neale: Well, you’re describing it quite well. The first thing I do not do is tell myself, “Don’t you know

it’s all going to work out?” Because it may not all work out. The master is not the one who knows it’s all going to work out. The master is the one who knows that it doesn’t make any difference.

Jennifer: Crap. Yeah. The master is the one who knows that it doesn’t make any difference. Neale: You see, if I’m sitting here needing everything to work out, I’m caught right back into maya.

I’m caught right back into the illusion. I’ve fallen right back into the spider’s web. “Oh, oh, I


get it. I need it to work out, but no problem. God’s on my side, so it will work out,” as opposed to the master who says, “I don’t care whether it works out or not, because whether it works out or not” — whether my telephone bill gets paid or the telephone gets turned off, whether my house mortgage is saved or whether I get thrown out of my house, whether I keep my job or lose my job — see, the master’s the one who says, “Oh, I get it. Life is not about that. Well, I’ll be darned. Isn’t that interesting?” So the master is the one who marches to a different drum, who says, “It’s not about get the car, get the house, get the job, get the promotion, get the spouse, get the companion, get the kids, get the grandkids, get the better job, get the better promotion, get the bigger house, get the bigger car, get the gray hair, get the office in the corner, get the third and final house, get all the bills paid, get the kids off to college, get the gray hair, get the retirement watch, get the sickness and get the hell out.” That’s the life that’s being lived by those who are even fortunate enough to follow that track. They’re not simply at a different level of simply day‐to‐day survival, thank you. All of those ways of living have nothing to do with the real reason that we are here.

So we must be of a single eye. We must be single‐minded, and for those who say, “Oh, well,

I’m done. Obviously I can’t be like the Buddha. I’ll never be like Paramahansa Yogananda. I guess I’m out of the game,” that’s me. That’s me talking. I’m not Paramahansa Yogananda, for goodness sake, much less the Buddha, but you know what? Here’s what I’ve discovered. I’m writing a book called The Only Thing that Matters. This will be coming out. This is next year’s book, and the book is called The Only Thing that Matters. Here’s the first line of the book, God‐inspired, no doubt. The book opens with the following statement. “Ninety‐eight percent of the people are spending 98 percent of their time on things that don’t matter.” So that means that most of us are spending 2 percent of our time — and we really are — we’re spending 2 percent of our time on things that do matter. I’ve just doubled it. I don’t have to be the Buddha. I don’t have to be Jesus the Christ walking here on the Earth again. I don’t even have to be Paramahansa Yogananda or Thich Nhat Hanh. What I’ve decided to do is see if I can just double the amount of time. I’m spending 2 percent of my time on things that do matter and 98 percent on things that don’t, the contracts, the phone calls, get the bills off, put the gas in the car, take the dog to the vet, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So how about if I spent 4 percent of my time, just a 2 percent improvement?

Here’s what I’ve discovered. It’s just remarkable. This stuff is so powerful. This movement to

divinity expressed is so powerful that, if you simply doubled the amount of time and went from 2 to 4 percent, still leaving you 96 percent of the time to spend on contracts and getting the bills paid and handling the rent and making your relationship work and keeping body and soul together, still have 96 percent of your time left for day‐to‐day challenges on the planet Earth, but 4 percent rather than 2 percent of my time devoted to whatever it takes to express and to experience, to announce and to declare, to become and to fulfill the next grandest version of the greatest vision ever I held about who I am.

Now, let me end by telling you this. The way I have learned to do that is to teach, that is, to

give to others the experience I wish to experience myself. Conversations with God says to me, “If you want to have any experience at all in life, cause another to have the identical experience. That is, be the source of the experience for everyone whose life you touch.” So I spend around 4 percent of my time teaching. That’s why I tell people start century discussion groups, conversation of the century discussion groups. Bring people into your home. Teach, share, open. Let the energy move through you so that other people, who are listening to you,


will walk away — not everyone but every so often, someone will walk away and say, “Wow. Wow, I never thought about it that way. Well, thank you. Wow.” Suddenly, we find the energy coursing through us as we use our lives, 4 percent of our lives, to be a messenger for everyone whose life we touch. Still we have plenty of time to handle the contracts, the bills and the mortgage.

Jennifer: And do you think, if we spend that 4 percent of our time teaching, sharing — Neale: Demonstrating. Jennifer: I would say feeling. Is there a spiritual practice too? Is that part of it, or is it really just

teaching? Neale: Yes. There are many — of course we teach with everything we do, everything we say. So

teaching is not just sitting around in the room talking. Teaching is how you walk down the street.

Jennifer: Right, modeling, sharing a smile. Neale: Exactly. So if we spent 4 percent of our life consciously, as opposed to — see, here’s the

problem. Most people are living their life unconsciously, myself included, by the way. This is not me calling — this is not the pot calling the kettle black. I am this. I spent most of my life sleepwalking. I get from here to the store. I forget even what street I took. I get to the store, and I’ve forgot. I have to call my wife and say, “What did I come here for?” She says, “Honey, you went there to get —” I say, “Oh, yeah, right. Thanks. I forgot.” That’s how unconscious I am half the time. I don’t even know what I’m doing, but if I can spend 4 percent of my time, if I could decide, “Okay, wait a minute. Enough’s enough. I certainly have 4 percent that I can focus on.”

I can begin, to use your word, to model. What would it be like to walk down this street now as

a person who’s totally aware, totally conscious of who he is and who everyone else is and chooses, at least for the next few moments, to demonstrate that in everything I think and say and do, how I touch the flowers, how I walk across the street, what I say to the old person on the corner, what I say to the homeless person sitting there with his back up against the storefront, in soiled clothes, not smelling as pleasant as you’d like, asking if you have a few dollars? How do I encounter people who have crossed in front of me in their cars, and I want to usually demonstrate the largest finger of my hand? But I don’t. See, here’s what that looks like to me. As a practical matter, how I employ, how I start that energy, is by noticing that I am that.

A great spiritual teacher said to me, “Do not pass any person, do not pass any object, do not

pass really any moment without saying, ‘I am that.’” I will never forget when this master teacher told me this. We were walking down the street, and in fact, we were passing a homeless person, with soiled clothes, hair that hadn’t been washed in weeks, just sitting on the sidewalk, drinking a bottle of Four Roses. I said to this teacher, that I was walking down the street with, “Wow, there, but for the grace of God, go I.” And the teacher looked at me stunned. He said, “No, no, no. There, because of the grace of God, you go.” There you go, being a wino again. There you go, being the villain again. There you go, being the bank robber


again, and by the way, there you go, being the saint again. There you go, being the well‐dressed person again. There you go again. There you go again. Everywhere you look, you must see yourself. If you see anything other than yourself, you speak the lie about yourself. In the moment you speak the lie about yourself, you deny yourself, and I tell you, you will deny me three times before the cock crows.

You will look right into the face of God and call it something else because of your judgment.

Yet judge not and neither condemn, but be a light unto the darkness that you might know who you really are and that all those whose lives you touch will know who they really are as well.

Jennifer: Noticing that I am that. Neale: I am that. I am that. I am that. That’s become my practice as I walk down the street. Even as

I walk through my house, that’s become my practice. I am that. I am that. I am that. Jennifer: That’s part of your 4 percent. Neale: Yes. Jennifer: I love this notion of what would it be like. Not having to be conscious 98 percent of the time

but just giving yourself the space to be conscious — that’s my word. That’s my rephrasing — conscious 4 percent of the time and bringing a conscious awareness to the divinity that you are 4 percent of the time. It feels like a grand experiment to me. Tonight after the call, I’m going to see if I can spend 4 percent of the evening bringing consciousness, bringing conscious awareness to where I’m at, what I’m doing, who I’m talking to, how I’m speaking, what I’m doing, how I’m doing it. It’s just a sense of noticing. It feels incredibly — it feels like compounded interest is the result, that that 4 percent becomes compounded rapidly, creating shifts and changes that aren’t equal to that 4 percent of time. Is that an accurate assessment?

Neale: Yes. I think the effect is exponential, and the fastest way for me to experience my own

divinity, even 4 percent of the time, is to notice everyone else’s. I’m very clear that, as I move even through my house and interact with my beloved other, with members of my family, much less if I walked out of the house and walked down the street, in fact, and found myself in florist shops and supermarkets or wherever else people are moving through life, as I begin to see — or if I turn on television or read the newspaper and I just encounter life, if I begin to see what I’m seeing through the eyes of the divine and see more of myself in that way and release and let go of my judgments with regard to what I’m looking at, I begin to heal, first, myself of every false notion I have about me. The reason it heals me is this. There’s nothing in my exterior world that does not exist interiorly. A person might say, “Oh, Neale, wait a minute. I’m not a terrorist, for goodness sake. I’m not that bad,” this, that and the other. So they would deny that what they’re seeing in the exterior world is existing in their interior world, except another very wise master once said to me, “There’s a little bit of Hitler in all of us,” meaning, of course, that it may not exist, what you’re seeing outside of yourself, may not exist to that degree, but it exists, for certain, at some level inside of you, or you would not be able to recognize it. You wouldn’t even know what you’re looking at.

So when you see other people behaving in a way that bothers you, over which you have a

judgment, embrace it and accept it and say, “There’s a part of me over there. Maybe I haven’t


done it at that level, but there’s a part of me that has done enough like that, that I can immediately recognize what that person is doing.” When we stop judging it over there, the healing part of it is, when we finally give up our judgment of what’s going on over there, across the room, we then finally release ourselves from the guilt we have felt about what’s going on or what has been going on over here. So the process of expressing and embracing our own divinity is really a process of letting go and releasing everything unlike that.

I’ve got to tell you, my dear friend, I’ve lived a life in which I have hurt a lot of people, been

unkind to a lot of people. I’ve committed all of the seven deadly sins, every single one of them.

Jennifer: Wow, Neale. Neale: Betrayal, gluttony — all of them. By the way, so have all of us. I’m the only one to admit it. Jennifer: You’re admitting it. Neale: And so when I see the seven deadly sins being committed outside of myself, I see a person

outside of myself being sarcastic, judgmental, hurtful, betraying, violent, whatever — and I’ve been violent, as well, in my life, physically as well as verbally abusive and violent. Brother, have I been, and when I see that represented to me and realize, “Oh, my God. This is me coming back to myself. Oh, my God. How dare I judge that over there. I have demonstrated this exact same quality of life, perhaps not in that exact same way, perhaps not at that exact same level, but I have demonstrated it for sure.”

So when I forgive it across the room, when I can say, “You know what? I don’t agree with what

you’re doing. I don’t agree with what you’re saying, and I don’t condone anything in your behavior, but I do understand it. I can understand how you would do such a thing, because I have done such a thing in my life at some level. I’m clear that no one does anything inappropriate, given their present model of the world.” Once I embrace that and understand that, I can even look at my agitator, even look at my torturer and say to that person, with love in my heart, “Tell me, my friend, what hurts you so bad that you feel you have to hurt me in order to heal it?” Because I’m very clear, that anytime I have hurt anyone else, in big ways or small, it was because I was hurt, and I was attempting to heal my own hurt or to protect myself from what I thought would surely become a hurt. So every time I am attacked in any way, by life itself, by some circumstance or a person indeed, I’ve trained myself to be able to say and to think and also to speak it out loud if they will let me, “What hurts you so bad that you feel you have to hurt me in order to heal it?”

Jennifer: I have to say, that is one of the most powerful things that I have used, one of many, powerful

things that I have used, both just for myself, just saying that to myself and saying, “What hurts you so bad that you have to hurt me to heal it,” to someone who’s a stranger, to someone whom I love and adore and then to say it directly to them. It’s incredible. I have to tell you, I’m on my second day here in Sedona, and as you were saying these words, an enormous thunderstorm broke out while the sun was out. There’s a double rainbow right in front of me here. I don’t think there’s any accident that there’s this — nature is agreeing with this incredible insight. You talked about, in a book that I read recently, of yours — it was a book from 2001 that you’ve repurposed, and it came out again in April. This notion of the unified


field and the notion of we are all one, I think you’re speaking a little bit to it right now, but how do we get to feel in our bones and use that 4 percent, maybe, as an experiment to understand that we’re all one and that, when we judge another, that we’re judging ourselves?

We learned some new things about genes that you talked about in that book that were

astonishing, that kind of agree with the spirituality. How do we play with that notion of we’re all one, as we’re playing with this 4 percent, as we’re saying that beautiful statement to another?

Neale: Well, I don't know if I’m going to talk into the answer that you’re expecting to hear from me. I

can only be in the present moment. I’m not even sure what book you’re talking about, but it doesn’t matter, because I’m not even who I was ten minutes ago. I’m so in this exact moment now, and what I would say in this exact moment right now to you is first, I do whatever I possibly can to personally identify with what I’m seeing, experiencing and feeling coming to me from another, and I want to say even from another person, place or thing. It could be a tree. It could be an animal. It could be a beautiful, apparently inert rock, or it could, of course, be another human being. So the first thing I do, as a practice for me, to answer your question in this moment now, how do I play with that, I imagine that I were that person, place or thing. It works, of course, extremely well with people, because they are most like me right now. So when I encounter other human beings, I identify — I do whatever I can to identify myself with them, because past the question of what hurts you so much, it goes to the question of, if I really were one with them, what would I want now? What would I want now from me? What would I want to hear? What would I want to feel? What would I want to receive from me?

This has just changed everything in moments of my life. I can’t even begin to tell you. To use

just one example, I can think of situations where I’ve been with a person — the person is close to me — who was behaving, by my old measures, badly. Maybe they’re in a bad mood, got up on the wrong side of the bed, whatever, not the best day and being short and curt. My old way of reacting would be, “Gosh, I didn’t do anything to deserve that. Worse yet, I don’t need this.” So I would say to that person, “I’m sorry that you’re not in the best mood right now, but I’m out of here. When you want to straighten yourself out, let me know, and I’ll see you. I’m not going to stand here and take this,” kind of a position. In other words, my posture was defensive, very defensive, not attacking but defensive. Just get out of the space.

When I decide I am that — and do what I can to identify, to use your words, when I’m playing

with this business of we’re all one, I think, “If I really was one with that person, if that person was just another aspect, an extension of my very self, what would I want to hear or receive from this extension of myself that I currently call me?” I search very quickly. The questioned mind is brilliant. The mind will give you the answer in about 1/100th of a second. It won’t take very long for you to figure that one out. Then the only question is will you actually reach out and give that. In that space, I then have the presence of mind to reach out to that other person, to touch them, I mean, physically touch them, touch them on the arm, maybe touch them on the head or the forehead or the back of the head, give a little pat and say, “I’m really sorry that this morning is not turning out as well as you might have wanted it to for you. I’m sorry if anything I have thought, said or done might have inadvertently assisted in your not such a good mood, but if there’s anything at all, anything that I could think, say or do right now that could make it a little bit easier, better moment for you, tell me, please, what it might be. Know this, whatever else you think, I love you, and I love you not only when you show up great


— because you know what? The room will fill up when you’re showing up great. The room fills up when you’re at your best, but who will be here on St. Crispin’s Day? Who will be here when you’re not at your best? I will. I love you just like this.” That person will start to cry, and they’ll look at you and say, “Oh, my God. What planet did you arrive here from?”

Jennifer: I have a friend who had a very challenging relationship with her son, who was very radical. He

was into drugs and alcohol at a very young age. I witnessed something that you’re talking about kind of firsthand through her experience. She just did that for her son. She just held him in a space of love, and she said he would rage against her. She would just say, “I love you, and I’ll always love you. I understand you’re upset, and I love you.” I think he became a remarkable young man, I think in large measure because she didn’t chastise him or punish him. There were aspects of that that were there, but she did what you’re talking about here, just held him in love and just shared with him that no matter what — and it’s not about abuse, is it, Neale? It’s not about not holding your boundaries. You’re talking about something different here, right? It’s not about taking it and being loving anyway. This is different, isn’t it?

Neale: Yes. That’s very important to bring up. Thank you for saying that. If a person is physically or

verbally abusive to me, I will simply say to them, “I experience what you are now doing as being physically or verbally abusive, and I love you. I understand that all attack is a call for help. I understand that, and this is your way of calling for help, because all attack is a call for help. But the best way I can help you right now is to disabuse you of the notion that your behavior is acceptable and that you can get away with this with me. This is my help to you. You need to understand that this particular behavior is sufficiently verbally or physically abusive that I’m now, in fact, going to leave this space, and hopefully you will learn from that and receive from that and understand from that what you came to this moment to learn to receive and to understand, what you came to this moment in time, indeed, to remember. When you feel you have fully remembered, if in fact you ever do, know that I will always be here. You will owe me no apology, certainly not an abject apology. Recognition of what went down, what happened, fair enough, but I’m not going to make you grovel and try to fight your way back into my good graces. Know that you are always in my good graces, and when you are in your own good graces, you’ll pick up the phone, and you’ll call me.”

Jennifer: It sounds like you’ve had some experience with that, Neale. Neale: Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Yes, I have. Jennifer: What happened when you held that space? It’s almost like what you’re doing is not only

holding the space and boundaries for you, but you’re holding a tremendous space and boundaries for them.

Neale: Yes. People have come to understand, who interact with me regularly, that there’s nothing

they can do to stop me from loving them, nothing. There’s never a point of no return. I will never ever no longer have anything to do with them, but they also have learned that I have certain boundaries, not that I hold for my own protection or my own defense but for theirs, just as you quite correctly have observed. I’m not worried about my own protection. Honestly, I’m not even sure I’m afraid of death anymore. Probably should be, but I’m not sure that I am. So I don’t think of myself as someone who needs a particularly high level of protection, but I will protect the other person from hurting themselves by continuing to act as


they’re acting. I know if I allow them to continue to act as they’re acting, they’re only going to ultimately hurt themselves. So for that reason, I will, in fact, say what I said a minute ago. “I’m going to leave now, and if there’s a time when you feel you will choose a different behavior with regard to me, a different tone of voice, a different way of speaking, if that time comes, when you remember who you really are, reconnect with me. I hope you will. I will always be here. I will never desert you. I will never abandon you. I will never say no to you, but I am saying no to this part of you, because I don’t want you to demonstrate this anymore. You’re hurting yourself, and I can’t stand by and watch you do this. I can’t watch you do this to yourself, nor can I allow you to feel that you can get away with it with impunity.” So this is the teachable moment.

Jennifer: Indeed. That’s part of the 4 percent. Neale: Yes. Jennifer: Do you think, Neale, this person and these examples that have shown up for you, do you kind

of see them as gifts, as opportunities? Neale: Of course they are. There’s no question. I want to say something else here very quickly. I am

more often on the other end of these kinds of exchanges. I’m acutely aware here that I’m starting to sound like Saint Neale the Divine. I don’t want anyone to even begin to think that that’s how my life is. I am —

Jennifer: You’re a living demonstration of this. Neale: I am the one who causes more trouble than I solve. Jennifer: Well, I love that beautiful video of you on Eckhart Tolle’s show. In fact, I shared it with my list

today in anticipation of our call. It’s such a clear example of what you’re talking about. I mean, you used your 4 percent with him, asking him about these questions that I’m asking you, and I love the fact that you are — again, you’re modeling for us. I know for myself, too, I teach what I most need to learn and that the time for being on a pedestal is over and that we get to share. Thank you for sharing this. I still think you’re a saint, and I think you’re a saint in part because you share your humanity and your humility.

Neale: Oh, yeah, right, Jen. To say that, and I’m not going to comment on it other than to say I don’t

see myself in that way. But I am willing to notice that I’m trying very hard. I want to say to you that the biggest disappointment of my life is that I do not live into what I speak as much as what I would like. That is the biggest disappointment of my life, and every night of my life — and my darling wife will tell you this — I go to bed most nights, agonizing over that, I mean, not in a big drama way, but I get very quiet. She says, “Oh, are you there again?” I go, “Yeah, I’m afraid I am, because one more day has gone by in which I was less than I teach into, less than I say. I need to live into more profoundly, more consistently what it is I’m sharing.” However, I think I’ve reached a 4 percent level. I think I’ve managed to do better than I did before, and someone very wise once said, “You know what? All life really asks is are you doing better?” Are you doing better? I’ll give myself that. I think I’m doing better, and I’m grateful for that.


Jennifer: Wow. Beautiful. Are you doing better? I was going to have another phrase that pays, but I think that is the phrase that pays for tonight’s show. Are you doing better? So that’s our phrase that pays tonight. Last year, Neale, we started this. We do a phrase that pays, that kind of sums up the call a little bit, that hopefully people will remember. We pay them $250 if they enter the contest. So are you doing better? I like that. It just opens up the space of compassion for ourselves. I mean, that’s part of it, isn’t it, that we are not only finding that space of compassion for another but, in the process, are finding that space of compassion for ourselves and our own divinity?

Neale: That is such a vital part of that whole process, and I’m blessed to be partnered with a life

companion, my wife, who understands that perfectly. She will, in fact, pat my head, put her hand in my hand and give me a little, gentle kiss on the cheek and say, “Sweetheart, you’re doing better. Relax. Sleep well. You’re loved.” It’s so wonderful to have that kind of companionship of the soul, someone who can confirm for you your own best hope for yourself and so, when you do fall asleep and say, “Well, I am doing a little better,” you have an outside source that can confirm for you that you’re not kidding yourself. I hope that we can do that for each other as well. That is, I see that as one of my duties and one of my jobs, if you please, to turn a phrase, in the world, that I need, as well, to be that observant of others, all those around me, not just my spouse and my children and my family but all people that I interact with. When I see something that’s worthy of a verbal or a physical pat on the head and a gentle squeeze on the arm, to say, “Wow, I see you,” like that wonderful movie Avatar. “I see you. I see you.” To be able to announce that, to be able to say it and to be willing to say it, put that into the space so that we can be, all, the blessed companion of each other.

Jennifer: Indeed. It’s a gift we can give each other, isn’t it? Neale: It’s an extraordinary gift that we can give each other. There was a wonderful movie, a few

years ago, about a guy who took dancing lessons to surprise his wife on their anniversary. I believe it was called Shall We Dance, I think. In any event, one person was asking another in that movie, “Why do you think people get married or partner together and choose to live together as companions and partners? Why do you think people do that?” And the other person answered very wisely. She said, “Well, it’s not lust. I can tell you that, because that goes out the window after about 18 months.” It’s not the excitement of it. It’s not this, and it’s not that. She gave all the reasons why it’s not, and then the guy said, “Then why is it? Why do people join together in partnership and marriage?” She looked at him, and she said, “To have a witness to their lives, that I might know I was here. I was here, and I did this. And you were there during my ups and my downs, my failures and my successes, and you saw that little inch forward. Somebody saw it.” We get together to be a witness to each other’s lives.

Jennifer: Beautiful. As always, I am brought to tears, again. Thank you, Neale, for a really magnificent

show and for your generosity of insight and passion and compassion. Thank you so much. We are at the top of the hour. I do want to share a little bit about Neale’s special offer tonight. I’m actually, once again, tearful, remembering our time together on this remarkable series we created this past spring. This is Neale Donald Walsch’s offer tonight. It is probably one of the most life‐changing programs I’ve experienced, and I was in communication with Neale during the course of this series that we created.


I have gifted this to many people, because I knew it would change their lives. They indeed have not only listened to it once but dozens of times. They moved each time into a new place. The level of content, the words that Neale shares, like what hurt you so bad that you have to hurt me to heal it, those phrases are so valuable and give us the vocabulary to communicate with each other.

There’s a show about parenting that gives you the vocabulary to actually communicate with

your children in this new paradigm that Neale is talking about, in the new 4 percent. There is an experience with Neale about the illusion of lack. He unravels the most difficult challenges that we have from his very unique perspective, one that isn’t really out there in any other way, talking about it in this way. He shares about releasing old habits, patterns and stories and takes you to a realm of self‐discovery that is really astonishing. I’m being a little hyperbolic, but it’s such a beautiful, beautiful series that I enjoyed it so much.

There’s another show that we did on negative energy and walking your talk, and then there’s a

really powerful show about staying centered when your life is extreme, when your life goes wild. Then finally, one of my favorites, which is Connecting the Mind and the Soul. It’s so cool, because I speak about this a lot, connecting the mind and the soul, and Neale brought a whole new level of understanding that just solidified it even further for me and allowed me to find a space of compassion for myself. Then we also have a special Q & A that went with that, and there’s one in particular on there that Neale talks about the Holocaust in the most powerful way that allowed me such deep forgiveness that I didn’t even know I needed to experience.

You get transcripts with all that, and then there’s several bonus downloads: Staying Centered

in a Crisis, Happier than God and True Love. Then we’re going to take all of the calls that Neale’s been on so far, five shows — this is his sixth appearance — and they are available to you. These powerful Healing with the Masters calls are also available to you. So that’s Neale’s special offer:

specials.healingwiththemasters.com/neale. Anything to add about that series, Neale? Neale: Well, it’s going to sound gratuitous and planned, but I would say, if there’s anything of value

on those programs, and I believe there is, it is not in small measure because of your energy and your ability to bring it out. I’ve been interviewed by a lot of people through the years, I mean, a lot of people, hundreds of people, everybody from The Today Show and ABC’s Good Morning America to the smallest, little Internet radio program. Very few people pull and draw out from me and from Wayne Dyer, for that matter, what you are able to draw out, and so I’m glad that we have this partnership. I’m glad we have this opportunity to co‐create, again, together, and I thank you for it.

Jennifer: Thank you, Neale. It was a really special time, and it was a very special series. I think that, if

you’re resonating at all with this, please do check it out. Of course we have a payment plan as well, and it’s a great life‐changing series. Thank you, again, Neale, for joining us, and thanks, everyone, for hanging out with us. I just want to thank everyone for participating so strongly. It seems that we come together as individuals, and in the end, we wind up a united community


and united in our intention. You matter. We matter. I love you all so very much, and until next time, good night. Good night, Neale.

Neale: Good night. [End of Discussion]


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Neale Donald Walsch is a modern day spiritual messenger whose words continue to touch the world in profound ways. With an early interest in religion and a deeply felt connection to spirituality, Neale spent the majority of his life thriving professionally, yet searching for spiritual meaning before beginning his now famous conversation with God. His With God series of books has been translated into 37 languages, touching millions of lives and inspiring important changes in their day‐to‐day lives. In addition to authoring the renowned With God series, Neale has published 16 other works, as well as a number of video and audio programs. Available throughout the world, each of the CwG dialogue books has made The New York Times Bestseller list, Conversations with God‐Book 1 occupying that list for over two‐and‐a‐half years. The With God Series has redefined God and shifted spiritual paradigms around the globe. In order to deal with the enormous response to his writings, Neale created the Conversations with God Foundation, a non‐profit educational organization dedicated to inspiring the world to help itself move from violence to peace, from confusion to clarity, and from anger to love. Neale's work has taken him from the steps of Machu Picchu in Peru to the steps of the Shinto shrines of Japan, from Red Square in Moscow to St. Peters Square in Vatican City to Tiananmen Square in China. And everywhere he has gone‐from South Africa to Norway, Croatia to The Netherlands, the streets of Zurich to the streets of Seoul, Neale has found a hunger among the people to find a new way to live, at last, in peace and harmony, and he has sought to bring people a new understanding of life and of God which would allow them to experience that.

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Guest Speakers | Further Information

August 25, 2011

Jennifer McLean

Host of Healing With The Masters Launching Her New Book Body Dialoging: 7 Steps to Coping & Thriving in Extreme Times HealingWithTheMasters.com

September 6, 2011

James Van Praagh

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Jacqueline Joy

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September 15, 2011

Eric Pearl

Internationally recognized Healer Creator of Reconnective Healing TheReconnection.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) September 20, 2011

Patricia Cota‐Robles

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Marlise Karlin

Internationally renowned Author, Recording Artist, Educator, Humanitarian “Igniting The Power Of Peace In People Around The World” MarliseKarlin.com

September 27, 2011

Jennifer McLean

Host of Healing With The Masters Launching Her New Book Body Dialoging: 7 Steps to Coping & Thriving in Extreme Times HealingWithTheMasters.com

September 28, 2011

Cynthia Kersey

Best‐Selling Author Motivational Speaker Founder of the UNSTOPPABLE Foundation www.unstoppable.net

September 29, 2011

Sherry Gaba

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Rikka Zimmerman

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Barbara Marx Hubbard

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Elizabeth Jones

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Don Miguel Ruiz

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Neale Donald Walsch

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Maureen Moss

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Kaitlyn Keyt

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November 3, 2011

Lindsay Wagner

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November 8, 2011

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November 10, 2011

Morty & Shelly Lefkoe

Founders of The Lefkoe Institute Morty is the Creator of The Lefkoe Method series Shelly is the Founder and President of the Possibilities of Parenting Center LefkoeInstitute.com

November 15, 2011

Geneen Roth

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) November 17, 2011

Jean Houston

Scholar, Philosopher and Researcher in human capacities Foremost Visionary Thinker Principal Founder of the Human Potential Movement JeanHouston.org

November 22, 2011

Colette Baron‐Reid

Internationally renowned Intuitive Counselor, Educator and Motivational Speaker Best Selling Hay House Author ColetteBaronReid.com

November 29, 2011

John Gray

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December 1, 2011

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