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Is there a market for
ideas?
Joshua Gans and Scott SternCITE Workshop on Innovation and Information
25th March, 2009
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Outline
Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideas
Application to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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A Puzzling Absence
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A Puzzling Absence
Large returns to ideas trading
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A Puzzling Absence
Large returns to ideas trading
Match with appropriate complementary assets
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A Puzzling Absence
Large returns to ideas trading
Match with appropriate complementary assets
Facilitate widespread dissemination
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A Puzzling Absence
Large returns to ideas trading
Match with appropriate complementary assets
Facilitate widespread dissemination
Provide (price) signals for future returns
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A Puzzling Absence
Large returns to ideas trading
Match with appropriate complementary assets
Facilitate widespread dissemination
Provide (price) signals for future returns
but rare to see ideas exchanged in an organizedmarket where the price is shaped by outside
options.
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
max{v1 c1, 0}
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
max{v1 c1, 0} max{v2 c2, 0}
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Benefits of multi-lateral trademax{v1 c1, 0} max{v2 c2, 0}
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Benefits of multi-lateral tradeSurplus from Bilateral Trade = max{v1 c1, 0} + max{v2 c2, 0}max{v1 c1, 0} max{v2 c2, 0}
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
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Benefits of multi-lateral trade
max{v1 c2, 0}+
max{v2 c1, 0}
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Outline
Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideas
Application to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
Roths conditions:
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
Roths conditions:
Thickness
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
Roths conditions:
Thickness
Non-congestion
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
Roths conditions:
Thickness
Non-congestion
Safety
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What does economics say abouteffective market design?
Roths conditions:
Thickness
Non-congestion
Safety
Repugnance
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Melbourne housing market
Thickness
Dichotomy between volume oftransactions and ability of
buyers and sellers to useendogenous outside options.
Non-congestion
Issues associated with auction
timing
Market safety
Risks associated with dummybidding and buyer opportunism.
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Kidney exchanges
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Outline
Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideas
Application to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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Nature of ideas
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Nature of ideas
We focus on three properties of ideas which impact the challenge ofmarket design in the market for ideas
Refines Romer (1990) on appropriability and non-rivalry
Idea Complementarity: the degree to which the value of an idea ishigher when others have access to other ideas
Value Rivalry: Whether the value of an idea declines when othershave access to the idea
High Value Rivalry: Financial Engineering Algorithm, Process Innovation
Low Value Rivalry: Music, Medical Knowledge
User Reproducibility: The cost to users of reproducing the idea forother potential users
High User Reproducibility: Digital Music (and other digital goods)
Low User Reproducibility: Tacit process innovation
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Outline
Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideas
Application to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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Thickness in Ideas Markets
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Thickness in Ideas Markets
A generic issue with markets madedifficult by idea complementarity
demand for the package can causehold-up
creation impacted by uncertainty
Strategies
Standard setting organisations Trade conferences
Patent pools
Platform creation (iTunes Apps store)
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Congestion in Ideas Markets
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Congestion in Ideas Markets
Need time to evaluate options
Value rivalry causes incentives to pre-empt
market Strategies
Prizes/Advance Purchase Commitments/Problem
Posting Publication of license terms
Price commitments (iTunes music store)
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Imagine a stock market in which buyers and sellers couldnt find
out the prices at which anyone else sold a share of stock. If youwanted to buy (or sell) a share of stock, you would have to guesswhat it was worth. Willing buyers and sellers would often misseach other. The price at which a sale did close would vary widelyfrom sale to sale. And those who had a source of private or inside
information would be able to exploit others. Surely no one wouldintentionally design a system in which trades had to be blind inthis way.
Patents, however, exist in just such a blind market. Want to know ifyou are getting a good deal on a patent license or technologyacquisition? Too bad. Lemley and Myrhvold, 2008
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S f i Id M k
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Safety in Ideas Markets
User-reproducibility means userscan:
Become competitors
Avoid payment (Arrowsdisclosure problem)
Strategies
Bundling Blackmail
Reputation
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Outline
Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideasApplication to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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Are Ideas a Repugnant Good?
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Are Ideas a Repugnant Good?
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Are Ideas a Repugnant Good?
Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
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Are Ideas a Repugnant Good?
Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
discovered with public funds?
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
discovered with public funds?
The right for a record label to prohibit an artist from playing their own music, withheavy penalties for infringement?
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
discovered with public funds?
The right for a record label to prohibit an artist from playing their own music, withheavy penalties for infringement?
An auction between you and your health insurance company to exclusively accessyour genetic profile?
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
discovered with public funds?
The right for a record label to prohibit an artist from playing their own music, withheavy penalties for infringement?
An auction between you and your health insurance company to exclusively accessyour genetic profile?
Secret payments by the government to journalists and bloggers to expressparticular opinions as their own?
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Repugnant goods are those for which there are strong social norms (oreven legal constraints) on exchange at a positive price (or at all)
Should the following be permitted.
Steve Jobs charging a price >> MC for the iPhone?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for baldness treatment?
A pharmaceutical firm charging a price >> MC for a malaria treatment
discovered with public funds?
The right for a record label to prohibit an artist from playing their own music, withheavy penalties for infringement?
An auction between you and your health insurance company to exclusively accessyour genetic profile?
Secret payments by the government to journalists and bloggers to expressparticular opinions as their own?
The sale of credit for a discovery by a student to a faculty member?
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Information Wants to be Free (Brand, 1984)
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Information Wants to be Free (Brand, 1984)
In many settings, strong moral and values-based argumentsregarding the fact that the price of an idea should be identical toits marginal cost zero
From the consumers perspective, though, there is a huge difference
between cheap and free. Give a product away and it can go viral. Charge asingle cent for it and youre in an entirely different business, one of clawingand scratching for every customer. The psychology of free is powerfulindeed, as any marketer will tell you.. the truth is that zero is onemarket and any other price is another. In many cases, that's the differencebetween a great market and none at all. (Chris Anderson)
While consumers are certainly interested in ideas at the lowest price,some of the strongest voices against prices for ideas are those whoproduce and supply ideas
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Dealing with repugnance
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Dealing with repugnance
Accept it as a constraint What are its implications?
Sources in the ideas context Users do not want to pay
Providers do not want to be paid(preference for dissemination)
Intrinsic motivation and social norms
Extreme control rights
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Consequences of repugnance
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Psychology of free pricing
Reaction to reach-througharrangements
Metering & usage payments Digital rights management
Consequences
Easier to recover payments fromnon-users (e.g., advertising)
Trade control rights (fixed fee oracquisition) rather than usagepayments (subscriptions orroyalties)
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Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideasApplication to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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Markets with a zero price
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Most robust and active markets for formal ideas exchange areprecisely those where the price of the ideas is equal to zero
Scientific norms in which the price of an idea is the thin property rightof scientific credit is taken for granted, and seems like a naturalapproach
No room for micro-payments, persistent failures of DRM & SW
subscription models; no pushback against advertising-supported models
Ideas trading appears to be most efficient when there are free norms
Wikipedia
Open source software (creative commons license)
Science (recognition and citation)
Zero price encourages Thickness: quid pro quo exchange
Non-congestion: no strategic behavior to manipulate prices
Safety: if price is zero, nothing left to lose
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The Desire to Publish?
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Video 1
Video 2
The Desire to Publish?
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Motivation and goals
Principles of market design
Nature of ideasApplication to markets for ideas
Repugnance in market for ideas
Here they are!
Conclusion
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