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#30 (342) 7 oqtomberi, 2015 weli gamodis oTxSabaTs WWW.SAERTOGAZETI.GE fasi 1 lari

gazeTi moazrovne

mkiTxvelisTvis-

vaxtang xarCilava:diax, Tamamad SeiZleba davaskvnaT,

rom `nacionalebi~ qveyanaSi

didi areulobis mowyobas gegmaven!

aikrZaleba

Tu ara

saqarTveloSi

keTilSobili

ideebiT

`SefuTuli~

qimiur-biolo-

giuri iaraRis

Semotana?

vaSingtoni da moskovi erToblivad

unda moqmedebdnen siriaSi

da ara erTmaneTis winaaRmdeg_ egeni iseTi gaTaxsirebu-

lebi arian, ekuTvniT, `lomi~

(Zalayini) gaacxelo da civi

mxridan gaukeTo ukan saTiTa-

od. _ Tqva erTma.

_ civi mxridan, ratom? _

CaeZia meore.

_ gamoReba rom moundeT, xe-

li ver mokidon, _ dauzusta `i-

deis avtorma~.

gaTaxsirebulebSi vin igulisx-

ma `ideis avtorma~, amis Tqmas nu momTxovT, imedia ise-

dac mixvdebiT...

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moRalate! Tu

raimes miaRwia

politikur

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mxolod RalatiT.

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is profesionali

moRalate iyo...

qarTuli

saxelmwi-

fos momava-

li imazea

dafuZnebu-

li, rodis

gaitanen `grelandias~ anu rodis

gawmenden Zalovan struqturebs

nacmoZraobis mexuTe kolonisgan?

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Tumca gavida sul mcire xa-

ni da batoni sosos mier

gaJRerebuli versiebi `nac-

moZraobis~ mier dagegmili

provokaciebis Sesaxeb kidev

ramdenime adamianma gaimeora.

amasobaSi gaCnda kidev

ufro sagangaSo informacia,

rom mzaddeba teroristu-

li aqti biZina ivaniSvilis

winaaRmdeg.

ar vici, ramdenad Seesa-

bameba sinamdviles es in-

formaciebi, da, saerTod,

arsebobs Tu ara am versie-

bis damamtkicebeli raime

konkretuli masala, Tumca

`nacmoZraobis~ mier bolo

periodSi ganxorcielebul

aqciebs, maT gancxadebebs,

maT agresiul ritorikas

Tu davakvirdebiT, SeiZleba

davaskvnaT, rom `nacmoZrao-

ba~ raRac did ubedurebas

umzadebs qveyanas.

marTalia, am varaudis

damadasturebeli raime kon-

kretuli dokumenti da sam-

xili ar maqvs, samagierod,

maqvs logikuri azrovnebis

unari, rasac TavisTavad

mivyavarT im daskv-

namde, rom `nac-moZraoba~ didiprovokaciisT-vis emzadeba.ufro zustad,unda mas es Tuara, is iZule-bulia iarosprovokaciebisda destabili-zaciis gziT,radgan misi,rogorc poli-tikuri organi-zaciis gadar-Cenis sxva vari-anti ar arse-bobs.

modiT, bolodan,

anu momavali sapar-

lamento arCevnebidan davi-

wyoT.

miuxedavad imisa, rom

`nacmoZraoba~ omaxiani xmiT

gahyviris, rom misi reitin-

gi maRla iwevs da is aris

erTaderTi politikuri Za-

la, romelsac SeuZlia qve-

yana krizisidan gamoiyvanos,

`nacmoZraobam~ SesaniSnavad

icis, rom 2016 wlis sapar-

lamento arCevnebSi is se-

riozul warmatebas ver mi-

aRwevs, ufro metic, saer-

Tod ver miaRwevs veranair

warmatebas.

2016 weli, es iqneba2012 wlis oqtomberSidaumarxavi `nacmoZra-obis~ politikuri da-saflavebis weliwa-di.

Zalian mcire Sansia,

TiTqmis gamoricxulia, rom

es daumarxavi mkvdari, ro-

melsac xrwnis da lpobis

suni asdis, romelime par-

tiam an koaliciam Seiked-

los.

dRes Tu viRacebi ekek-

lucebian da efarisevlebian

`nacmoZraobas~, es sulac

ar niSnavs imas, rom es vi-

Rac-viRacebi politikuri

xarakiris gakeTebas apire-

ben da politikur batali-

ebSi `nacmoZraobasTan~ er-

Tad apireben brZolas.

diax, seriozuli poli-

tikuri partiebidan aravin

ar apirebs `nacmoZraobas-

Tan~ daZmobilebas, rom

amiT maTi codvebis Tanazi-

ari gaxdes.

`nacmoZraoba~ 2016wlis arCevnebSi mar-toobisTvis aris gan-wiruli, marto ki masgamarjvebis aranairiSansi ar aqvs.

mokled rom movWraT,

2016 wlis arCevnebSi `nac-

moZraobas~ sruli fiasko

elodeba, rac, rogorc

vTqviT, SesaniSnavad icis

TviT `nacmoZraobam~.

gamomdinare aqedan, `nac-

moZraobas~ xels aZlevs

movlenaTa ganviTarebis er-

TaderTi varianti _ saqme

ar mivides normalur, ase

Tu ise demokratiul da sa-

marTlian arCevnebamde, amis-

Tvis ki saWiroa qveyanaSi

Seiqmnas qaosi, areuloba,

destabilizacia.

`nacmoZraobisTv-is~ uaRresad xelsay-reli iqneba Tu qveyanasamoqalaqo dapiris-pirebis zRvramde anufro kargi maTTvis_ samoqalaqo dapi-rispirebamde miva.

ai, aq, aseT situaciaSi,

aseT krizisul viTarebaSi

uCndeba Sansi saerTaSoriso

Zalebis erTi nawilisagan

zurggamagrebul `nacmoZra-

obas~ mRvrie wyalSi oqros

Tevzi daiWiros da qveynis

krizisuli mdgomareobidan

gamomyvani erTaderTi poli-

tikuri Zalis roli moir-

gos.

`nacmoZraobas~ rom ase-

Ti gegma aqvs, es Tundac

maT mier gaJRerebul mo-

wodebaSi gamJRavnda _ `na-

cionalebi~ vadamdel sapa-

rlamento arCevnebs iTxo-

ven!

erTi SexedviT, ra lo-

gikaa amaSi?! arCevnebi xval

aris da dRes ra vadamdel

arCevnebs unda iTxovde,

magram swored am alogiku-

robaSia is logika, rac

`nacmoZraobas~ Tavisi bne-

li zraxvebis gansaxorcie-

leblad sWirdeba.

cxadia, vadamdeli arCev-

nebi ar SeiZleba Catardes

ise, umizezod, uargument-

od, umotivaciod.

vadamdeli arCevne-bi rom dainiSnos, ami-sTvis qveyanaSi saga-ngebo viTareba, uki-duresad krizisuli

situacia unda Se-iqmnas.

ai, am krizisu-li situaciis Se-qmnas apireben` n a c i o n a l e b i ~ ,aqeTken mihyavTprocesebi. ai, esaris is provoka-ciuli, qveynisT-vis uaRresad di-di safrTxeebisSemcveli gegma,romelsac `naci-onalebi~ nabij-nabij axorciele-ben.

miuxedavad imisa,

rom ar maqvs konkre-

tuli samxilebi, ar

maqvs konkretuli fa-

qtebi, im logikidan gamom-

dinare, rac qveyanaSi mimdi-

nare politikuri procese-

bidan ikveTeba, mainc mivedi

im daskvnamde, rom `nacio-

nalebi~ qveyanaSi didi are-

ulobis mowyobas gegmaven.

rogor da ranairad api-

reben isini am gegmis sis-

ruleSi moyvanas, amis ga-

sarkvevad da dasadgenad im

struqturebma unda imuSa-

on, romlebsac samsaxureb-

rivad evalebaT prevenciu-

li zomebis miReba qveynis

usafrTxoebis winaaRmdeg

mimarTuli antisaxelmwi-

foebrivi qmedebebis aRsakv-

eTad.

diax, nacionalebi qveya-

naSi didi areulobis

mowyobas apireben, ramac Se-

iZleba samoqalaqo dapiris-

pirebamde migviyvanos _ ase-

Tia Cemi prognozi, Tumca

aqve minda Sesabamisi struq-

turebis warmomadgenlebs

erTi TxovniT mivmarTo _

nu damiZaxebT dakiTxvaze da

nu momTxovT imis damamtki-

cebel sabuTebs, raze dayr-

dnobiT vakeTeb amgvar sagan-

gaSo prognozs.

xom giTxariT, ar maqvs

me aranairi dokumentebi da

faqtebi, maqvs mxolod

logikuri azrovnebis una-

ri.

hoda, Tu Tqvenc mihyve-

biT logikas, zustad iq

mixvalT, sadac me mivedi,

danarCeni ki Tqven iciT da

Tqvenma profesionalizmma.

diax, Tamamad SeiZleba davaskvnaT,

rom `nacionalebi~ qveyanaSi

didi areulobis mowyobas gegmaven!

vaxtang xarCilava

3#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w. saerTo gazeTi

sami weli gavida rac sa-

qarTvelom marTlac rom qe-

didan moixsna saakaSvilis xe-

lisuflebis sisxliani uRe-

li.

samwuxaroa, magram faqtia,

rom xalxs sibrZneze gacile-

biT maRali doziT gulm-

aviwyoba dasCemebia da kidev,

analizis unari metad dahkar-

gvia, vidre hqonda. Tu es ase

ar aris, aba, ras unda niSnav-

des rigiTi adamianebis pre-

tenziebi da guliswyroma, yve-

la maTgani xom `nackoordina-

tori~, `nacmoZraobisgan~ ra-

RaciT davalebuli an ubra-

lod, intrigani ar aris?

martivad vTqvaT _ upirve-

lesad asobiT ukanono patima-

ri gaTavisuflda sasjelaRs-

rulebis adgilebidan (kanoni-

erad dapatimrebulebic ki ga-

mohyvnen am talRas);

oficialuri struqture-

bis warmomadgenlebis mxridan

aTasobiT adamianis wameba, sa-

disturi cema-gvema, gaupatiu-

rebis muqara da gaupatiureba

Sewyda ara mxolod sasje-

laRsrulebis dawesebulebeb-

sa da policiis ganyofilebeb-

Si, modulis Senobasa da sxva

e.w saxelmwifo dawesebule-

bebSi, aramed kerZo sakuTre-

bis sxvadasxva adgilebSi, bu-

nebasa Tu mitovebul Senobeb-

Si;

biznesis `savaldebulo

reketi~, CamorTmeva, mitaceba

da a.S imdenad Sewyda, rom

faqtebi, yovel SemTxvevaSi

aRar xmaurdeba.

yvela media-saSualeba, ro-

melic `nacmoZraobis~ Svilo-

bili iyo Jurnalistebianad,

faqtobrivad, kvlav `naciona-

luri moZraobis~ samsaxurSia,

zogadad ki, yvela maTgani

isea miSvebuli, rasac moisur-

veben im lafs esvrian visac

moisurveben da ra umsgavsobis

propagandasac moisurvebs dam-

kveTi, imas avrceleben _ kaci

araa momkiTxavi da TiTis dam-

qnevi, anu absoluturad Tavi-

sufalia media, TviT Sinagani

cenzurisganac ki. metic, seq-

sualur marazmsa da aRvirax-

snilobaSia gadaSvebuli;

visi televizia visaSia da

visi romelia, sajaro re-

estrs calke aqvs abneuli

tvini, notariusebs calke da

kanonier mflobelebs calke,

anu vin vis àaxia~, TviTonac

ki aeriaT rigiToba da am yve-

laferze TandarTuli, romel

konkretul televizias ram-

deni aTeuli milioni aqvs ga-

danTqmuli saxelmwifo biuje-

tidan gverdiTi gzebiT da vi-

si meSveobiT, aravis aintere-

sebs da agrZeleben Cveul mav-

neblobas;

rigiTi adamianebis Tu po-

litikosebis im gancxadebebsa

da qmedebebze, rasac saakaSvi-

lis reJimis dros, garkveul

mizezTa gamo konkretul gan-

mcaxdeblebs Tu ara maT oja-

xis wevrebs an axlo naTesa-

vebs cixeSi gamoalpobdnen

sxvadasxva braldebiT, an sap-

roceso garigebiT usaxl-ka-

rod datovebdnen.

aqve, ixeira man, vinc igive

Tvisebebi gamoavlina da 2012

wlamde droulad gadmoewera

dRevandeli xelisuflebis ba-

nakSi;

CamonaTvali vrcelia da

moicavs yvela sferos, dawye-

buli jandacviT, damTavrebu-

li soflis meurneobis ganvi-

Tarebis xelSewyobiT, magram

socialuri sferoebi droebiT

ganze gavwioT, radgan xalxis

ukmayofilebis mizezi is ki

ar aris, rac keTdeba, anu rac

ixeira, aramed is, rac ar keT-

deba.

miuxedvad imisa, rom Zal-

ze kmayofilebi unda iyvnen,

ukmayofiloebi arian damnaSave

reJimis Semqnel-Semoqmedebic,

miuxedavad imisa, rom mxolod

sami kinkila Tavkaci hyavT gi-

sosebsmiRma da mxolod ram-

denime sadisti Semsrulebeli,

Tumca, gulSi, albaT, RmerTs

madlobas swiravs TiToeuli

maTgani, rom meoTxe kacad

TviT ar aris miTvlili, rac

absoluturad kanonieri iqne-

boda;

aqve, ukmayofiloebi arian

viTom, magram saxeze etyobaT

ymayofileba axali xelisuf-

lebis im Stos warmomadgen-

lebs, visac kanonis aRsrule-

ba evalebaT, magram aravin ava-

lebs da ar mouwiaT tvinis

Wyleta imaze, rogor aResru-

lebinaT samarTali sisxlis

samarTlis im danmaSaveebis mi-

marT, romelebTanac guSin da

guSinwin erTad texdnen purs;

yovelgvar ukmayofilebas

kmayofilebiT xvdebian, anu ma-

radiul kmayofilebaSi imyo-

febian arcTu gaurkveveli

warmoSobis, daniSnulebisa da

dafinansebis mqone e.w dasav-

luri Rirebulebebis `metre-

bi~, romelTa grantebis rao-

denobac lamis saqarTvelos

biujetze metia _ aranairi

sargeblobis momtani, piriqiT,

saxifaTod `dalatkuli~ me-

xuTe saburavi;

am mcire CamonaTvalidanac

ki aSkarad Cans, vin ra ixeira

da aris Tu ara es marTebuli,

an ubralod, kargi, magram ax-

la erTi umartivesi kiTxva

davsvaT: _ rom ara biZina iva-

niSvilis swori svlebi Sin

Tu gareT, SeZlebda Tu ara

saqarTvelos mosaxleoba sis-

xliT an usisxlod, Tavidan

moeSorebina saakaSvilis sisx-

liani reJimi?

pasuxi calsaxaa: _ ara,

ver SeZlebda!

axla, es vikiTxoT: _ miu-

xedavad imisa, rom `qarTulma

ocnebam~ danapirebi srulyo-

filad ver Seasrula, dRes

rom 2012 wlis 1 oqtomberi

iyos da igive arCevanis wina-

Se idgeT, vis micemdiT xmas?

pasuxi calsaxaa: _ `qar-

Tul ocnebas~!

ai, am SemTxvevaSi ki cota

`viWedebiT~ _ xalxma xma mar-

Tlac misca `qarTul ocne-

bas~, magram es òcneba~ gaigi-

vebuli iyo biZina ivaniSvil-

Tan, mis dapirebebTan da ara

calkeul pirTa, an pirTa

jgufis ocnebis asrulebas-

Tan...

vikiTxoT, ra sarge-beli miiRo biZina iva-niSvilma 1 oqtombriT?_ erTaderTi, Tu manam-de mxolod misi gvar-sa-xeli hqondaT gagoniliaqa-iq, axla yvelam icismisi arsebobis Sesaxebda cnoben saxezec.

aseve, gaigo xalxma,rom mas hyavs Svilebida hyavs meuRle.

ufro saintereso biZina

ivaniSvilis saqarTveloSi ga-

moCena da misi politikaSi

fexisSemodgmis versiebia.

versia I _ aRarsad daed-

gomeboda da fulis saSovne-

lad dabrunda.

kaci, romlis piradi qone-

ba saqarTvelos biujets

utoldeboda, im qveyanaSi

dabrunda fulis saSovnelad,

sadac iqiT arigebda fuls?

miTumetes, sadac sicocxlis

xelyofis safrTxis qveS unda

daeyenebina sakuTari Tavi da

sakuTari ojaxis wevrebi?

kacs, romelsac saSvilTaSvi-

lod uzrunvelad cxovreba

SeeZlo msoflio yvela

kuTxeSi?

versia II _ xelisuflebis

xelSi Cagdeba surda.

xelisuflebac xelSi

hqonda da TviTon afinansebda

garkveuli droiT im xeli-

suflebas, prezidenti saakaS-

vili, romelsac dRemde tyvi-

asaviT eSinia misi gvaris xse-

nebisac ki, uars Sehbedavda

nebismier postze? Tu saku-

Tarsave monapovar xelisuf-

lebaSi ver darCeboda mmarT-

velad?

versia III _ putinis kacia

da ruseTis kacia.

aq cota sainteresodaa

saqme, azrTa sxvadasxvaobas-

Tan gvaqvs saqme, radgan viRa-

cebisTvis putini calke `ka-

cia~ da ruseTi _ calke; vi-

RacebisTvis _ putini da ru-

seTi ganuyofelia; viRacebis-

Tvis _ putini calke dajgu-

febaa, rac did ruseTs warmo-

adgens, xolo ruseTi is ru-

seTia, romelic putins ebrZ-

vis dasavluri Rirebulebebis

dasamkvidreblad.

mokled, romeli putinis

an romeli ruseTis kacia bi-

Zina ivaniSvili TviTonve ga-

ixlarTnen am versiiis avto-

rebi da mowyindaT aRniSnuli

versiiT Cxirkedeloba.

versia IV _ ruseTSi

`moRvawe~ `kanonieri qurde-

bis~ moyvanilia, aba, ratom ar

exebodnen mis bizness maSin,

roca ruseTSi ZaRli patrons

ver cnobda, erTi Tmis Reri

ratom ar Camouvarda.

aRniSnul versias vrceli

gadacemac ki mieZRvna, magram

maleve miinavla.

versia V _ saqarTvelos

gasanadgureblad masonebma ga-

moagzavnes aSS-idan.

verc am versiam moikida

fexi. mesame versiidan, savara-

udod, imitom ver gaamarTla

verc erTma versiam, rom aR-

niSnuli `niSebi~ TviT am

versiebis gavrcelebis damkve-

Tebs hqondaT da aqvT dakave-

buli da ivaniSvilis adgili,

ubralod, aRar iyo darCeni-

li.

axla es vikiTxoT: _ 2012

wlis 1 oqtombridan ra miiRo

TviT biZina ivaniSvilma?

pasuxi calsaxaa: _ bevri

mteri da aranakleb bevri

umaduri da kidev SeZaxili

ùuu~!

giorgi CxeiZe

umadurobis sindromisami 1 oqtomberi _

vin ixeira da vin izarala?

4 saerTo gazeTi #230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

sanam ufro farTod mimovixilav-

deT `naruSilovkis~ warmomavlobas

da daniSnulebas, romelzec axla mTe-

li saqarTvelo msjelobs, mokled

getyviT, rom es Turme gaxlavT spe-

cialuri dokumenti, specsaSvi, rom-

lis mflobelic dazRveuli yofila,

rom darRvevis, Tundac sagzao moZra-

obis wesebis darRvevis SemTxvevaSi ar

dasjian, anu misi mflobeli garkveu-

li privilegiebiT sargeblobs. vin

gasca es saSvi rigiT moqalaqeebze,

rogorc amas yofili patrul-inspeq-

tori giorgi babunaSvili da garkveu-

li mediasaSualebebi gvimtkiceben,

imedia gamoZieba daadgens, magram si-

marTle giTxraT, me is ufro mainte-

resebs vin gasca `naruSilovka~, Tanac

gafarToebuli uflebebiT, ufro zus-

tad, yovelmxriv xelSeuxeblobis uf-

lebiT nacmoZraobaze? sazogadoeba

sul imas amunaTebs dRevandel xeli-

suflebas, rom Zalovani uwyebebis

sxvadasxva samsaxurebi (maT Soris

pressamsaxurebi) isev nacmoZraobis

kadrebiTaa gaZeZgili, Tumca aravin

cdilobs maT `gacxrilvas~. Tu visa-

ubrebT `naruSilovkaze~, rogorc zo-

gad formaze, amiT garkveuli mediasa-

Sualebebic sargebloben (amis yvelaze

aSkara magaliTia telekompania `rus-

Tavi-2~), maT Turme ratomRac yvela-

feri epatiebaT. diax, vfiqrobT, upri-

ani iqneba pirvel rigSi is gavarkvioT

vin gasca `naruSilovka~ nacmoZraoba-

ze, radgan yvela ubedureba aqedan

iwyeba. saxelisuflebo struqturebSi

mexuTe kolonis arseboba imdenad

TvalSisacemia, rom eWvs aRar iwvevs,

gana amaze ar miuTiTebs is garemoeba,

rom saidumlo informaciebi, gasai-

dumloebuli dokumentacia xan presa-

Si ibeWdeba, xan `rusTavi-2~-is eTe-

riT JRerdeba. gavixsenoT e.w. Canergi-

lebTan dakavSirebuli Tema, rodesac

saidumlo masalebi (Tumca maT avTen-

turobaze Tavs ver davdeb) romelzec

xeli mxolod am saqmeze pasuxismge-

bel pirebs miuwvdebodaT, seriulad

ibeWdeboda erT-erT gazeTSi. Zneli

gasarkvevi ar iyo saidan Jonavda Tun-

dac agenturasTan dakavSirebuli in-

formaciebi, daekiTxaT is xalxi vinc

axmaurebda Tu saidan hqondaT, vin mi-

awoda, es xom ar iyo Cveulebrivi in-

formacia. am masalebis gamoqveynebidan

TiTqmis ori weli gavida, magram sa-

zogadoebisTvis dRemde ucnobia gamo-

Ziebam ra gaarkvia. Zalovani struqtu-

ris romeli WkuaTmyofeli TanamSro-

meli gaaxmaurebs agentebis vinaobas,

Tu mas gamiznuli zraxva ar amoZra-

vebs. an vinmes biznesaqmianobasTan da-

kavSirebuli informacia saidan Jo-

navs, es xom ar aris sajaro samsaxu-

ris informacia, rom oficialurad

gawvdidnen. bunebrivad Cndeba kiTxva,

vin awvdis saidumlo informaciebs

`privilegirebul~ mediasaSualebebs,

romlis vfiqrobT, yvelaze logikuri

pasuxia, rom swored is mexuTe kolo-

na awvdis, romelic nacmoZraobam da-

tova Tu Seagzavna igive Zalovan uwye-

bebSi, is aris maTi sayrdeni, romlis

saSualebiTac xdeba saidumlo infor-

maciebis gaxmaureba.

`specoperacia~

specialurad

levan izoriasTvis

da naTia

mezvriSvilisTvis?

vin iyo giorgi babunaSvili, rome-

lic axla sazRvargareTaa gaqceuli

(Tu gaaqcies) - sapatrulo policiis

oficeri, anu Sss-s kadri. mis sate-

levizio Tu sagazeTo interviuebs

rom gaecnobi STabeWdileba dagrCeba,

rom es adamiani Segnebulad, mizanmi-

marTulad dasdevda winaswar SerCeul

`samsxverploebs~, rom-

lebic am SemTxvevaSi

policiis maRaCinosnis

levan izorias Zma, pro-

kurori naTia mezvriSvi-

li da advokati irma

Wkadua aRmoCndnen. mar-

Talia qalbatoni irma

sajaro moxele ar gax-

lavT, magram is advoka-

tia, romelic yovelTvis

ilaSqrebda nacreJimis

winaaRmdeg da albaT ami-

tomac gaxda `skandalu-

ri sapatrulo ekipaJis~

samizne. aba, sxvas ras

mivaweroT, roca am qal-

batons daaxloebiT naxe-

varkilometrian monak-

veTSi samjer aCereben da

mis simTvrale-sifxizle-

ze Semowmebas sami sapat-

rulo ekipaJis alkotes-

tebis maragi èwireba~,

patrulebis mxridan mi-

marTvis formaze rom

aRaraferi vTqvaT. sabo-

lood mainc ver gavige,

ra daadgines patrulebma

mis simTvrale-sifxiz-

lesTan dakavSirebiT, etyoba es arc

ainteresebdaT. naTia mezvriSvili ki

is prokuroria, romelic TiTqmis yve-

la `bobola~ nacionalis ss-is saqme-

ze bralmdebeli Tu zedamxedveli

prokuroris funqcias asrulebda. ro-

gorc iqna gavarkvieT, rom naTia mezv-

riSvils `naruSilovka~ ki ara, avto-

manqanis minebis daburvis nebarTva wa-

rudgenia patrul babunaSvilisTvis.

maSin raSi daWirdaT prokuror mezv-

riSvilis am saqmeze `mikereba~ Tu ra-

ime interesi ar arsebobda mis mimarT?

es qalbatoni samsaxurebrivi avtoman-

qaniT gadaadgildeboda, me rigiTma

Jurnalistma vici Sss-sa da prokura-

turis kuTvnili avtomanqanebis sa-

xelmwifo nomrebi da rogor davije-

ro, rom patrul-inspeqtorma giorgi

babunaSvilma ar icoda da Sesabamisad

ar icoda rom prokuraturis kuTvnil

avtomanqanebs minebis daburvis ufle-

ba miniWebuli hqondaT. ratom iqceo-

da patrul-inspeqtori babunaSvili

ase, exaliseboda? etyoba, mas specda-

valeba hqonda da imas asrulebda, ris

Semdegac sazRvargareT gaaqcies, `da-

valebis mimcemebma~ rogorc Cans, Tavi

daizRvies, eSmaks ar sZinavs, ra viciT

xval-zeg ras ityviso. levan izorias

advokatobas ar vapirebT, magram ma-

vanT isic rom TvalSi eklad esobaT,

giorgi gabunias gadacema àrCevanmac~

damarwmuna, Tumca amaze qvemoT. kidev

ramdeni potenciuri `babunaSvilia~

Sss-sa Tu sxva Zalovan struqtureb-

Si, momavalSi vin ra saidumlo in-

formacias gamoitans, RmerTma uwyis.

sad gaqra sisxliani

reJimis mamxilebeli

dokumentebiT

savse kasrebi?

samegreloSi faruli kadrebiT ga-

ZeZgili aTeulobiT kasri aRmoaCines,

romelic sazogadoebas ar uxilavs

ise dawves da gaanadgures, risi `Tav-

gadakluli~ iniciatori arasamTavro-

bo seqtoris is nawili gaxldaT, ro-

melsac damoukidebloba-obieqturoba-

ze aqvT pretenzia, sinamdvileSi ki

sisxlxorceulad arian dakavSirebu-

li nacmoZraobasTan. es iyo erT-erTi

farTomasStabiani Seteva xelisufle-

baze, swored es samoqalaqo seqtoris

saxeliT Seburvili `damrtymeli Za-

la~ gamouSves asparezze, nacreJimis

makomprometirebeli masalebis gasa-

nadgureblad. Tu faruli kadrebi vin-

mes pirad cxovrebas exeba, ki batono,

gaanadgureT, magram samagrelos sama-

lavebSi aRmoCenil farul CanawerebSi

adamianebis cema-wamebis, Rirsebis Sem-

laxavi mopyrobis kadrebi iyo asaxu-

li. vinmem hkiTxeT im nawameb, gaube-

durebul adamianebs Tu iyvnen Tanaxma,

rom maTi mwameblebis mamxilebeli

mtkicebulebebi ganadgurebuliyo, visi

azria xelisuflebisTvis mniSvnelova-

ni, sazogadoebis Tu erTi muWa gran-

tze gayiduli ènjeoSnikebis~? am fa-

ruli Canawerebis ganadgurebam mavanT

xel-fexi gauxsna, nacreJimis dros

rasac akeTebdnen, dResac imaves cdi-

loben, Tavs uSiSrad grZnoben, radgan

maTi mamxilebeli masalebi aRar arse-

bobs. vinmem gamoikvlia da daadgina

vin aris es xalxi? mediasaSualebebiT

xSirad vrceldeba informacia, rom

saakaSvilis reJimisdroindeli maRal-

Cinosnebi kvlavac agrZeleben muSaobas

Zalovan struqturebSi (prokuratu-

rasa da sasamarTloze aRarafers vam-

bobT), ufro metic, maT awinaureben.

ra logikuri axsna unda mouZebno am

sakadro politikas? Tu vinmes hgonia,

rom xsenebul kadrebs saTavisod ga-

moiyenebs, Zalian Semcdara, isini dRes

SeiZleba formalurad eTanxmebian xe-

lisuflebas, magram TavianT patro-

nebs ver uRalateben, gadamwyvet mo-

mentSi maT survilebs, brZanebebsa da

instruqciebs Seasruleben. vfiqrobT,

amis dasturia patrul-inspeqtor gi-

orgi babunaSvilis SemTxvevac.

`naruSilovka~,

romelic nacebma

axla àRmoaCines~,

TviTon maT

SemoiRes 2005 wels

rac Seexeba uSualod `naruSi-

lovkebs~, isini 2009 wels etyoba

`farTo moxmarebaSi~ Semovida, Torem

gacilebiT adre daunergavT, oRond

isev nacionalebis mmarTvelobisas.

rogorc kargad informirebulma san-

do wyarom gviTxra, 2005-2006 wleb-

Si specsaSvebiT mxolod sodisa da

kudis TanamSromlebi sargeblobdnen,

am uwyebebis operatiul samsaxurebze

oficialurad 2-3 specsaSvi yofila

gamoyofili, Tumca SeiZleba gacile-

biT meti raodenobiT arsebobda. am

dokumentSi arc mosargeblis vinaoba

yofila miTiTebuli da arc avtoman-

qanis marka da saxelmwifo nomeri, mas

specdavalebaze mimaval operTanamS-

romelze gascemdnen da am TanamSro-

mels davalebis Sesrulebis Semdeg,

pasuxismgebeli pirisTvis unda Caeba-

rebina. specsaSvSi miTiTebuli iyo,

rom patruls (sxva policielsac)

ufleba ar hqonda misi warmomdgenis-

Tvis vinaoba ekiTxa, arc is sad midi-

oda da misi avtomanqana gaeCxrika. am

`naruSilovka~ nacmoZraobisTvisqarTuli saxelmwifos momavali imazea dafuZnebuli,

rodis gaitanen `grelandias~ anu rodis gawmenden

Zalovan struqturebs nacmoZraobis mexuTe kolonisgan?

5saerTo gazeTi#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

sabuTs Ss ministris moadgile amiran

mesxeli da konkretuli departamen-

tis xelmZRvaneli (erekle kodua da

daTa axalaia) awerdnen xels. es

specsaSvi Turme im mizniT SemoiRes,

rom operatiul davalebaze mimavali

TanamSromeli ar gaSifruliyo, wya-

ros informaciiT, sinamdvileSi es

sul sxva mizans emsaxureboda. aRara-

visTvis warmoadgens saidumloebas,

rom TviTon sodi da kudi iyvnen aq-

tiurad CarTuli iaraRisa da narko-

tikebis biznesSi, gavixsenoT, rogor

daakaves sodis ufrosis moadgile mi-

sireli narkotikebis realizaciis mi-

zeziT ukrainelma samarTaldamcavebma.

maSindeli prezidentis mixeil saa-

kaSvilis uSualo Careva gaxda saWi-

ro, rom es saqme Cafarcxuliyo. aqe-

dan gamomdinare, xsenebuli uwyebebis

TanamSromlebi Tu maTTan `saqmian~

urTierTobaSi myofi pirebi àram-

kiTxe~ Semmowmeblebisgan daculi un-

da yofiliyvnen. ra Tqma unda, gaumar-

Tlebelia, roca specsaSviT gareSe

piri sargeblobs, magram nacionalebi

da maTi marTuli media, imaze ratom

arafers ambobs, rom specsaSvebiT da

ufro metic, operatiuli sanomre

niSnebiT aramarto maRalCinosnebis

ojaxis wevrebi da naTesavebi, aramed

maTi mTeli saaxloblo sargeblobda.

isini dazRveuli iyvnen, rom sagzao

moZraobis wesebis darRvevis SemTxve-

vaSi, adamianis sicocxlec rom emsx-

verplaT, veravin dasjida, elementa-

rulad verc ipovidnen damnaSave

mZRols. Sss-s operatiul samsaxu-

rebze aTeulobiT amgvari saxelmwifo

nomeri iyo gacemuli da romc daed-

ginaT damnaSave avtomanqanis nomeri,

romeli patruli gabedavda èlitur

kastasTan~ dapirispirebas. garda ami-

sa, es rigiTi moqalaqeebi Zalovan

struqturebSic hyavdaT gaformebuli

da biujetis xarjze xelfasebsac ux-

didnen. rogorc Cans es yvelaferi ma-

Sin ar ukvirda SoTa utiaSvils, ro-

melsac Sss-Si sakmaod maRali Tanam-

deboba ekava, yovel SemTxvevaSi, am

maxinji formis mimarT misi protes-

ti maSin aravis mousmenia. Tu aseTi

simarTlis moyvaruli kacia, xmas ra-

tom ar iRebda, man xom SesaniSnavad

icoda, rac xdeboda? aqaoda mis Zmas

vadagasuli `naruSilovka~ aRmouCi-

nes, levan izoria unda gadadgeso. na-

cionalebi igives da uaressac rom

akeTebdnen, pasuxi ar unda agon, es

yvelaferi xom maTi danergilia? Ri-

milismomgvrelia yofili patrul-in-

speqtoris giorgi babunaSvilis is

gancxadeba, rom Turme ar waukiTxavs

Tu ar daumaxsovrebia, vin awerda

xels levan izorias Zmis `naruSi-

lovkas~, SemTxvvviT specialurad

xom ar moxda àrwakiTxva-damaxsovre-

ba~, vinme iseTi xom ar awerda xels,

romlis vinaobis gamJRavnebac ar

awyobdaT òbieqtur~ Jurnalistebs,

miT umetes, rom es specsaSvi ukve va-

dagasuli yofila? vfiqrobT, arc

imis gamoricxva SeiZleba, rom levan

izorias Zmas specialurad SeaCeCes

xsenebuli specsaSvi, viRac waemliqv-

nela, rom mere misi Zmis winaaRmdeg

`kompromati~ hqonodaT.

partiuli `vendeta~

`gandgomilTa~

winaaRmdeg

simarTle giTxraT, verc imas ga-

movricxav, rom levan izorias winaaR-

mdeg wamowyebul kampaniaSi, Tavisufa-

li demokratebic~ iyvnen CarTulni,

Tea wulukiani da levan izoria am po-

litpartiis wevrebi gaxldnen, maSin,

roca irakli alasaniam da misma gun-

dma `qoSi ukuRma hyares~ da opozici-

aSi gadabargdnen, wulukiani da izo-

ria maT ar gayolian, ris Semdegac

araerTxel gamxdaran `mSobliuri~

partiis warmomadgenelTa kritikis

obieqti. gadacema àrCevanis~ wamyvani

giorgi gabunia etyoba isea daintere-

sebuli levan izorias gadadgomiT,

rom gadacemis stumar aleqsi petri-

aSvils Caacivda, unda gadadges levan

izoria da dadges misi pasuxismgeblo-

bis sakiTxi, konkretul `naruSi-

lovkaze~ misi xelmowera romc ar

iyoso (gabuniam etyoba icis, rom

izoria ar aris xelmomweri), ra-

zec `marTalma~ aleqsim xatovani

pasuxi gasca òbieqtur~ giorgis,

arc erTia muSni zarandia da arc

meore daTa TuTaSxia, wynarad da

mSvidad rom davelodoT gamoZie-

bas, levan izorias moralurad ga-

dawyvetileba ukve miRebuli unda

hqondes, Ss ministrma da sus-is

ufrosma xom Tqves, vinc ar unda

iyos yvela unda dai-

sajoso... aqve wamyvanma

da respodentma eka

yurSitaSvilis gacilebiT

tragikomikuri SemTxvevac

gaixsenes, Tumca ratom-

Rac nawilobrivi amnezia

daemarTaT da sityva ar

dascdeniaT nacdeputat

giorgi baramiZesa da gi-

orgi karbelaSvilze,

romlebic `ZaRlebs~ das-

Zaxodnen da uwmawuri

sityvebiT lanZRavdnen

patrulebs. es ormagi

standarti ras mivaweroT

batono aleqsi? Tqven is

deputati ar brZandebiT,

romelic taSis kvriT mi-

esalma Tavdacvis ministr

xidaSelis gadawyvetilebas e.w. kabe-

lebis saqmeSi braldebulebis Tanam-

debobaze aRdgenas, rodis xarT

gulwrfeli, saqmes rogorc Wirde-

ba?

vin gaitans

`grelandias?~

vfiqrobT, sworia is mosazreba,

giorgi babunaSvili mixvda, rom sa-

xelmwifo ar idga mis ukano, mar-

Talia, aSkarad sxvebi idgnen, mag-

ram erTguli, wesieri adamianebis

ukan unda idges saxelmwifo da es

Tanadgoma imaSi unda gamoixatebo-

des, rom is policielebi, romleb-

mac guSin danaSauli Caidines, dRes

samarTaldamcav sistemaSi aRar un-

da muSaobdnen. aseTi kadrebi ki,

rogorc Cans bevria. Tu erTbaSad

uWirT am kadrebis gaSveba, isini ma-

inc moiSoron, romlebsac wina xe-

lisuflebis dros maRali Tanamdebo-

bebi ekavaT da romlebic yvela sibin-

ZureSi arian gareuli. `gacxrilon~

sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis samsa-

xurebi, pressamsaxurebi, ar unda da-

interesdnen vin aris iq momuSave

kadrebi? is Jurnalistebi, romlebic

mixeil saakaSvilisa da vano merabiS-

vilis `jibis Jurnalistebad~ iTvle-

bodnen, ratom ganageben sazogadoe-

basTan urTierTobis umniSvnelovanes

sferos, mere rom gikvirT saidan ga-

Jona informaciamo? xom ar gonia vin-

mes, rom sazogadoebasTan urTierTo-

bis umniSvnelo samsaxuri umniSvne-

lo struqturuli rgolia, piriqiT

Zalian mniSvnelovania, radgan xeli-

suflebasa da mosaxleobas Soris is

aris damakavSirebeli rgoli. gvin-da Ss axal ministrs movuwo-doT, batono giorgi, Tqvenswesierebasa da patiosnebaSieWvi ar gvepareba, magram Tu

Tqvens uwyebas ar gawmendTsaeWvo kadrebisgan, eskadrebi ukan moutrialdebamTel sistemas. xom xedavT,`maRal doneze~ informirebu-li Jurnalistebi Semodgoma-ze meore `vardebis revoluci-as~ aanonseben, misi informa-tori `Citic~ kargad daZebneTTqvens uwyebaSi, marTalia,didi eWvi gvaqvs, rom `mTavariCiti~ sazRvargareTaa gadax-vewili Zebnilis statusiT,magram `bartyebi~ datovebu-li eyoleba. ar wamoegoT imversias (raSic Zalian cdilo-ben rom dagvajeron), rom es`Citi~ pingvinia.

qarTuli saxelmwifos momavali

imazea dafuZnebuli, rodis gaitanen

`grelandias~ anu rodis gawmenden Za-

lovan struqturebs nacmoZraobis me-

xuTe kolonisgan?

Tu droze ar moxdeba es, SeiZle-

ba am mexuTe kolonam TviTOn moindo-

mos `qarTuli ocnebis~ erTguli

kadrebisgan Zalovani struqturebis

gawmenda da vai Tu maSin gvian iyos

TiTze kbenani.

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nika gvaramiaze, rogorc

naczonder adamianze, Cveuleb-

riv nacprokurorze Tu finan-

sur maqinaciaSi eWvmitanil

pirze, bevri ramis Tqma SeiZle-

ba, magram amisTvis sqeltaniani

tomebia dasaweri da ara

SezRuduli sagazeTo formati.

mxolod is vikiTxoT, sad iyo

da ras saqmianobda nika gvaramia

(da viTom Tavisufali mediis

Tavgadakluli damcveli, rea-

lurad sindis-namusgarecxili

banda `saias-a~ da misi nabar-

tyis CaTvliT), axla rom Wyi-

vis (sxva sityva ar esadageba

mis intonacias) samgle goWi-

viT, roca erTi meoris miyole-

biT quCaSi gamoayares gamomcem-

loba `samSobloSi~ dabinavebu-

li yvela media-saSualeba? ga-

moyracaa da gamoyrac _ xvali-

dan dacaleTo aravis uTqvams,

Sevardnidan imwamsve fanjrebi-

dan gadmouyares mTeli materi-

aluri qoneba da mosaxmarad

uvargisi gaxades yvela saxis,

daniSnulebisa da formis nivTi;

sad iyo da ras saqmianobda

nika gvaramia (da misi ideuri

banda), roca telekompania ìbe-

rias~ arbevdnen? roca ìmedSi~

specnazi Sevarda da sadamdec

brZanebaSi iyo `gawerili~ iqam-

de miangr-moangria, Jurnalis-

tebs ki baWiebiviT dasdevdnen?

roca erTmaneTis miyolebiT ga-

moketes `mze~ da `mecxre arxi~

da a.S

da sulac, sainteresoa, nika

gvaramias rodis unda moe-

kiTxos prokurorobisdroinde-

li `codvebi~?

mxolod nika gvaramiaze ra-

tom vikiTxoT, sad iyvnen `rus-

Tavi-2-is~ Jurnalistebi da ze-

moT ukve naxsenebi sindis-namus-

garecxili banda, roca marTla

Tavisufali mediis aseTi dawi-

okeba xdeboda?

zogierTis utifrobas xom

sazRvari ar aqvs!...

zogjer, ar ginda konkre-

tul adamians Seexo, miTumetes,

qals, magram TviTon rom gaiZu-

lebs? rogor unda `Caataro~

mSvidad eka xoferias sityvebi,

romelic sakuTari xeliT dawe-

ra (ucvlelad gTavazobT):

_ `bevris dawera SeiZleba.

ar aris CemTvis ase calsaxad

yvelaferi, rac wlebis manZil-

ze rusTavi oris irgvliv xde-

boda, miT ufro, rom bevris

mowme mec viyavi da vici, rom

ramdenime adamians usamarTlod

moeqcnen. ar aris es Cemi gasar-

Cevi. miukerZoebelma da damou-

kidebelma sasamarTlom unda im-

sjelos am Temebze. vnanob bevr

rames. vnanob Tavis droze ìbe-

rias~ rom gverdSi ar davude-

qiT Jurnalistebi, `maestros~

afeTqebebs gulgrilad rom va-

tarebdiT (dRemde ar aris ga-

moZiebuli) dasanania, rom ì-

medsac~ Tavis droze bevri ar

daudga gverdSi da wlebis man-

Zilze patarkaciSvilebis

ojaxs is CamorTmeuli hqonda

da viTomc araferi, grZeldebo-

da cxovreba...

amitom mTavari: yovelTvis

vecadoT davudgeT gverdSi

Jurnalistebs, maT unda hqon-

deT Tavisuflad da damouki-

deblad muSaobis pirobebi, imis

miuxedavad, mowons vinmes maTi

reportaJebi Tu ara. swored

amitom dRes Cemi rogorc Jur-

nalistis mxardaWera kolegebs

rusTavi oridan~.

ai, aseT SemTxvevaze SeiZle-

ba pirdapir cnobili

naTqvamis perifrazi: èka

xoferia SeiZleba wavi-

des `rusTavi 2-idan~,

magram `rusTavi 2~ ver

wava eka xoferiadan~...

erT dros da karga-

xans `rusTavi-2-is~ sain-

formacio samsaxuris

(kidev sxva ramis) gamge-

beli qalbatoni, anu

sicruis, ciliswamebisa

da adamianebis saxelisa,

Rirsebisa da pativis am-

yrel-Semryvneli, po-

lit-propagandistuli manqanis

erT-erTi mTavari Semoqmedi da

monawile qalbatoni, rac Ca-

moTvala, Turme èxa imaebs~ na-

nobs. ekranidan ra `niWiereba-

sac~ afrqvevs xelebis qneviTa

da araadeqvaturi metyveleba-

intonacia-mimikebiT, saxezea da

azris werilobiT Camoyalibebac

rom ar SeZlebia? _ magram, gu-

li ar uSvebs da ra qnas, guli

xom `rusTavi-2-Sive~ darCa...

xalxi Tvlis, rom _ nika

gvaramia iqneba, eka xoferia Tu

sxva da sxva, vinc sityvas da-

asvelebs `rusTavi-2-is~ ramena-

iri formiT mxardaWeraze, pir-

dapir niSnavs imas, rom mxars

uWer gaxmaurebuli Tu gauxma-

urebeli mkvlelobebis gamarT-

lebas; udanaSaulo adamianebis

damnaSaveebad gamocxadebas, ci-

liswamebebis kaskadis samarT-

lianad aRiarebas, saxelmwifo

da sisxlis samarTlis mravali

muxliT eWvmitanili pirebis an-

gelozebad warmoCenas da a.S

yvela umsgavsobas, ris propa-

gandasac aRniSnuli televizia

eweoda da eweva dRemde.

rogorc `rusTavi-2-is~ yo-

fili TanamSromeli ambobs, `qi-

bar xalvaSis mflobelobis

dros hgavda televizia yelevi-

zias, Torem, davaraSvilis, Ci-

qovanis, gegeSiZis da miTumetes

policmeisteri gvaramias dros

sakoncentracio banakad gadaiq-

ca. kezeraSvili demokratiis

Suquraa da qibar xalvaSi pino-

Cetio? xom ar dagaviwydaT,

axalaiebTan, kabinetSi rom

wydeboda, vis ramdeni unda hqo-

noda xelfasi? an sulac, xom

ar dagaviwydaT, eg Senoba Sss-

s aralegaruli fondebidan rom

dafinansdao?~ _ kiTxulobs

igi.

xalxi ras Tvlis marTebu-

lad, srulebiT ar ainteresebT

imave xalxis wlobiT abuCad am-

gdeb, mwamebel da mraval sisx-

lismier codvaSi eWvmitanil

subieqtebs, Tavisas mierekebian

da kidev imave xalxs amunaTe-

ben, gviSveleT, raTa sakuTar

Tavs uSveloT, Torem sibnele-

Si aRmoCndebiTo.

rasac xalxi hqvia, ras moi-

moqmedebs, davinaxavT, radgan

2000 wlidan dRemde adamiane-

bis goneba erTgvarad mainc ga-

naTda, aRar sjera yvela im

zRapris, rasac teleeTeridan

uamboben. xalxma zustad icis,

rom `rusTavi-2~ igive `nacmoZ-

raobaa~ da mxolod imitom,

rom iseTi gasarTobi gadacemebi

aqvT, rac maT amxiarulebs, ar

niSnavs, rom is adamianebi `nac-

moZraobis~ aqtivistebad moiaz-

rebian.

miSas matarebels gahyva is

dro, roca vinme akaki gogiCaiS-

vilis gadacemis daxurvis sa-

SiSroebis gamo xalxi erTma-

neTs aswrebda saxlidan mTav-

robis kancelariasTan mivard-

nas, an `rusTavi-2-is~ yovel

daZaxilze televiziis ezoSi

mirboda, ariqa, marTal sityvas

Cagraveno.

ki, fafxurobs raRacas,

cdilobs destabilizaciis ago-

rebas `rusTavi-2~, magram te-

levizia, romlis mTavari saxec

mravalTaTvis saZulveli, cini-

kosi nika gvaramiaa, ragind fi-

nansebi gamoyos `nacbandis mo-

lare~ da ara mxolod molare

kezeraSvilma, verafers miaRwe-

ven garda imisa, rom imave `nac-

moZraobasTan~ saeWvod mikrul-

mixutebuli dasavleTeli po-

litikosebi aboJirde-

bian...

adamianTa jgufi,

romelic Cveulebriv

iyideba, rogorc suli-

eri nivTi, yovelTvis

arsebobda da iarsebebs,

magram maT mimarT kano-

ni ratom aris mudmivad

Casvrilis mdgomareoba-

Si, Tu is jgufi e.w

opoziciur frTas war-

moadgens? parlamentis

Senobis blokireba da

parlamentarebisTvis

muSaobaSi xelis SeSla, an maT-

ze fizikuri Zaladoba dasjadi

Tu ar aris, dokumenturad da

sajarod gacxaddes!!!!

`telekompania `rusTavi-2-

is~ mxardasaWerad mravalaTasi-

ani aqciebi gaimarTeba! vidre

daixureba `rusTavi-2~ daixu-

rebiT Tqven! sul tyuilad

hgoniaT, rom mosamarTleze da

sasamarTloze zewola ar iqne-

ba!~ _ xmamaRal Setyobinebebs

Setyobinebebze da muqarebs mu-

qarebze uSvebs xelisuflebis

misamarTiT nika gvaramia da

iseT frazebs isvris, sakvirve-

lia, saflavidan rogor ar dge-

bian saakaSvilis sisxliani re-

Jimis dros daxocili adamiane-

bi...

_ Cven im mTavrobas ar vga-

varT, rodesac mosamarTleebs

saxlebSi uvardebian da maT bav-

Svebs Seuracxyofeno... modi da

nu gaepasuxebi _ is mTavroba

xom xarT, mSoblebs Svilebis

gaupatiurebiT rom aSantaJeb-

diT; Svilebs rom mSoblebis

Tvalwin cemdiT; Svilebs rom

mSoblebis Tvalwin xocavdiT...

daumorCilebel mosamarTleebs

da prokurorebs ukeTes SemTx-

vevaSi samsaxurebidan aZevebdiT,

SualedurSi _ cixeebSi amwyv-

devdiT sqesis ganurCevlad.

e.w sazogadoebrivi moZrao-

ba ìveria~, anu igive `nika ru-

rua da kampania~ Tavis mxriv

mkacrad afrTxilebs `xeli-

suflebas da mis araformalur

mmarTvels, biZina ivaniSvils,

rom xeli aiRon Tavisufali

sityvis mogudvis suicidialur

survilze, radgan, naTqvamia:

vinc dasTess qars, moimkis qa-

riSxals.~ ra Tqma unda, norma-

lurTan odnav miaxloebuli

marTlmsajuleba rom iyos sa-

qarTveloSi, maT mier daTesil

qariSxals namdvilad unda moh-

yoloda samarTlebrivi cunami...

iqiT, Salva naTelaSvilma

isrola ìstoriuli~ fraza`

_ `dRes `rusTavi-2~, misi si-

marTle, misi mTavrobisadmi

daumorCilebloba ise Wirdeba

saqarTvelos, rogorc daWri-

li irmebis gunds wyaro anka-

ra-o...

amas raRa unda gaepasuxo,

roca, gagikvirdebaT da imave

kacis sityvebia: _ `rusTavi-2~

imden tyuils afrqvevs, hit-

lers rom `rusTavi-2~ hqono-

da, germanelebs dResac ar

ecodinebodaT, rom omi waages-

o~...

giorgi CxeiZe

`hitlers rom

`rusTavi-2~ hqonoda...~

ex, `rusTavi-22~ rom mqonoda...

_ egeni iseTi gaTaxsirebulebi arian, ekuTvniT, `lomi~ (Zalayini) gaacxe-

lo da civi mxridan gaukeTo ukan saTiTaod. _ Tqva erTma.

_ civi mxridan, ratom? _ CaeZia meore.

_ gamoReba rom moundeT, xeli ver mokidon, _ dauzusta ìdeis avtorma~.

gaTaxsirebulebSi vin igulisxma ìdeis avtorma~, amis Tqmas nu momTxovT,

imedia isedac mixvdebiT...

7saerTo gazeTi#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

iinntteerrvviiuu aannaalliittiikkooss

valeri kvaracxeliasTan

__ bbaattoonnoo vvaalleerrii,, TTqqvveennss

ssaatteelleevviizziioo ggaaddaacceemmeebbss aauuddii-

ttoorriiaa ssaakkmmaaoodd ggaauuffaarrTToovvddaa..

ggaaddaacceemmeebbSSii TTqqvveenn ssaauubbrroobbTT iimm

TTeemmeebbzzee,, rroommlleebbzzeecc wwlleebbiiss

wwiinnaacc llaappaarraakkoobbddiiTT,, mmaaggrraamm

ccoottaa vviinnmmee TTuu ggiissmmeennddaaTT.. ppoo-

lliittiikkuurrii ggeemmoovvnneebbaa SSeeeeccvvaallaa

CCvveennss ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaass TTuu rraa

xxddeebbaa??

_ ar viqnebi mokrZalebuli

da getyviT: rasac vambobdi 15

wlis winaT, igives vambob ax-

lac, oRond, rogorc Tqven

TqviT, adre naklebad mismend-

nen, axla meti msmeneli gamoC-

nda.

saTqmeli ar Secvlila,

magram, rogorc Cans, realo-

bam, drom, situaciam moitana

am saTqmelis gagebis aucileb-

loba. sazogadoebaSi Cndeba im

simarTlis moTxovnileba, ro-

melic maSin Zneli dasanaxi

iyo da dRes SedarebiT naT-

lad gamoikveTa.

__ kkeerrZZoodd,, rraa iiyyoo ddaa rraa

aarriiss eess ssiimmaarrTTllee??

_ politika ar aris ro-

mantikis sfero. politika

aris realuri viTarebis gaa-

nalizebis adgili da ara maq-

simaluri, aramed optimaluri

Sedegis miRebis sfero.

saqarTvelo gancalkevebu-

li subieqti ar aris msofli-

oSi. is msoflios nawilia.

rodesac qveyana mxolod Tavi-

si `samreklodan~ rekavs da

ar an ver iTvaliswinebs gare

faqtorebs da interesebs, is

yovelTvis wagebuli rCeba.

meoTxedi saukunis ganmav-

lobaSi Cven azrovneba ar Seg-

vicvlia. vambobT, rom varT

damoukidebeli saxelmwifo,

rasac gvinda, imas gavakeTebT

da arasdros dagvisvams kiTx-

va: Cveni interesebi Tanxved-

rilia Tu ara sxvis intere-

sebTan, igive qveynis SigniT?!

amis gauTvaliswineblobam Za-

lian bevri usiamovneba mogvi-

tana.

igive natoSi aliansze rom

vilaparakoT.

`SevdivarT~ natoSi. nato

ki samxedro blokia da raki

samxedro samxedro bloki, is

dapirispirebulia viRacasTan.

ase rom, Cven vupirispirdebiT,

Zalauneburad, im `viRacas~.

infantiluria gancxadeba

_ aravis sazianod ar vmuSa-

obT. natos bazebi Tu gaixsne-

ba Cvens teritoriaze da gan-

Tavsdeba mZime da strategiu-

li SeiaraReba, am SeiaraRebas

eqneba garkveuli mimarTuleba,

maSin sapirispiro mxridanac

iqneba momarTuli Cvenze igive

tipis an ufro mZlavri Seia-

raReba, anu rusuli Zalebi.

gamodis, rom is mowinaaR-

mdege mxare, ruseTi, gerideba

da xels giSlis, rom ar Sex-

vide im samxedro blokSi. am

dros Cven vambobT, rom aravis

aqvs ufleba, xeli SegviSa-

los natosken swrafvaSi.

__ ggaassuullmmaa wwlleebbmmaa ddaa

mmssoofflliiooSSii mmiimmddiinnaarree pprrooccee-

sseebbmmaa vveerraaffeerrii ggvvaasswwaavvllaa??

_ gamokiTxvebma aCvena, rom

saqarTvelos mosaxleobis

31% evraziul kavSirSi gaer-

Tianebis momxrea. es niSnavs,

rom sazogadoeba politiku-

rad gaizarda, magram Tavad

politikosebs araferi eSve-

laT.

amas Tavisi mizezebi aqvs.

politikosebad gvevlinebi-

an is adamianebi, romlebsac

25-30 wlis winandeli leqsi-

kiT alaparakeben. dasavleTis,

aSS-is xelSia yvela berketi

da gansxvavebuli Sexedulebis

mqonesTvis TiTqmis SeuZlebe-

lia politikaSi mosvla.

__ ggaassaaggeebbiiaa,, mmaaggrraamm TTuu,, mmaa-

ggaalliiTTaadd,, rruusseeTTii mmttrruullaadd

mmooddiiss,, rrooggoorr `̀vviimmeeggoobbrrooTT~~

mmaassTTaann??

_ ruseTTan megobrobis

kuTxiT saerTod ar gvilapa-

rakia. ar gviTqvams maTTvis,

ra aris CvenTvis principuli

sakiTxebi. es sakitxebia: ver

davTmobT politikur suvere-

nitets, ver davTmobT teri-

toriebs, sxva yvelaferze Se-

iZleba dalaparakeba. Tumca

arc am sakiTxebze ar gvisaub-

ria ruseTTan. 25 wlis ganmav-

lobaSi saqarTveloSi ar yo-

fila xelisufleba, romelic

amisTvis mzad iqneboda. yvela

xelisufali iyo daniSnuli.

ki, gasagebia, rom yvela mmar-

Tveli arCevnebis Sedegad qar-

Tvelma xalxma airCia, magram

erTia arCeva da meorea gare-

moebani, ris gamoc airCies esa

Tu is xelisufali.

SevardnaZe xom Cems Camoy-

vanilad iTvleba. im Sevardna-

Zesac yovelTvis veubnebodi

imas, rac aucileblad saWi-

rod mimaCnda Cveni qveynisTvis.

ar veTanxmebodi Zalian bevr

rameSi. ar migdebda maSin yurs

aravin, magram simarTle erTia

da xom iciT, ras hgavs?! _

mwvane balaxs, romelic as-

faltsac ki amoxeTqavs xolme.

__ ssiimmaarrTTllee rraa aarriiss??

_ simarTle isaa, rom da-

savleTi im maRali Rirebule-

bebis, demokratiis da a.S. ni-

RabqveS Tavis namdvil intere-

sebs malavda. ganvlilma peri-

odma gaacnobierebina qarTvel

xalxs, ra aris sinamdvileSi

dasavleTi da evropa.

damoukideblobis mo-

povebidan dRemde ganad-

gurda ekonomika, davkar-

geT teritoriebi, garda

amisa, ganvicdiT srul

sulier dekadanssa da

degradacias, gairyvna

ena, mosaxleobis erTi

mesamedi monuri Sromis

anazRaurebisTvis gaqceu-

lia qveynidan.

samwuxaroa, rom am

ambebis momswre da mona-

wile varT yvela. piradad me

viyavi SevardnaZis prescent-

ris xelmZRvaneli. sadac is

mogzaurobda, me mis gverdiT

viyavi. vici, ra xdeboda da

yovelTvis vlaparakobdi, rom

es iqneboda damRupveli CvenT-

vis. SevardnaZe axali Camosu-

li iyo, me ukve davupirispir-

di mas. im xanebSi vkiTxe: ro-

gor warmogidgeniaT, Tu sa-

qarTvelo am gziT wava, rogo-

ri reaqcia iqneba ruseTisgan?

man mipasuxa: amerikam CauSva

Ruza kavkasiaSi da minimum 50

weliwadi is aqedan wamsvle-

li ar ariso.

is, rom aSS-i Semovida,

ssrk daiSala, es misi monawi-

leobis gareSe ar momxdara.

man Caidina udidesi Ralati.

uRalata sabWoTa kavSirs, ko-

munistur partias, socia-

lizms, saqarTvelos.

Tu raimes miaRwia poli-

tikur karieraSi, miaRwia Ra-

latiT da mxolod RalatiT.

SeiZleba iTqvas, is profesio-

nali moRalate iyo...

__ SSeevvaarrddnnaaZZee mmooRRaallaattee

iiyyoooo,, bbrrZZaanneebbTT,, mmaaggrraamm uuWWkkuuoo

kkaacciicc iiyyoo??

_ Wkua is aris, Seni naaz-

revi saukuneebs rom gascdeba,

Torem aT weliwadSi rom ga-

movlindeba Cadenili qmedebis

Sedegi, es ar aris Wkua da

goneba. magram raime sikeTe

moitana SevardnaZis qmedebebma

aqamde?!

__ bbaattoonnoo vvaalleerrii,, rraa rroo-

llii aaqqvvss rruusseeTTiiss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss

ddRReess mmssoofflliiooSSii??

_ 1991 wlidan moyolebu-

li, ruseTma ori etapi gamoi-

ara: elcinis mmarTvelobis da

putinis epoqa. putinma daCoqi-

li ruseTi fexze wamoayena,

magram yovelive es Tanmimdev-

rulad gaakeTa. 2000-dan

2007 wlamde mWidrod iTanam-

Sromla dasavleTTan. 2007

wels miunhenis konferenciaze

man gardamtexi gancxadeba gaa-

keTa da Tqva: rom erTpolaru-

li msoflio miuRebeli iyo

misTvis. iqve dasZina: es arc

demokratiaa da arc zneobao.

2014 wels valdais klub-

Si igive gancxadeba gaimeora

_ aSS-i usindisod moqmedebs

da saerTaSoriso samarTals

arRvevso.

axlaxan gaeros asambleaze

ukve Riad gaakritika aSS-i:

xvdebiT ki ra daatrialeT

msoflioSi? amis moTmena Se-

uZlebeliao. Tqva es, daamTav-

ra verbaluri ritorika da

gadavida sxva tipis moqmede-

bebze. radgan, sadac unda moq-

medebdes aSS-i, yvelgan moqme-

debs ruseTis sawinaaRmdegod.

ra moxda ukrainaSi? _

faqtobrivad, ruseTs aqceven

alyaSi.

obamam uTxra kidevac ax-

laxan putins _ ruseTi regi-

onuli mniSvnelobis `derJava-

a~ da aravin gekiTxebaT ara-

ferso, magram gamoCnda, rom

ruseTi arc ise xelwamosak-

ravia da putinis bolodroin-

deli gancxadebebi aris axali

etapis dasawyisi msoflio po-

litikaSi.

__ ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss aaddggiillii ssaadd

aarriiss aaxxaall mmssoofflliioo wweessrriigg-

SSii??

_ axlaxan gaixsna natos

sawvrTneli centri saqarTve-

loSi, romelsac aq saswav-

los eZaxian. magram rac ginda

daarqva, natos 28 wevri qve-

yana am centrs gamoiyenebso

da ra hqvia amas, TviTon gan-

sajeT.

Zalian bevrs laparakoben,

rusulma propagandam waleka

saqarTveloo, magram sad aris

es rusuli propaganda. me ar

vici da sxvam rogor icis,

xom ver metyvis vinme?!

amerikelebi saqarTveloSi

muSaoben aseTi principiT _

ikaveben yvela niSas, kerZod,

hyavdeT TavianTi xelisufle-

ba, TavianTi opozicia, Tavian-

Ti mediasaSualebebi, TavianTi

arasamTavroboebi, sociolo-

giuri kvlevis samsaxurebi da

specsamsaxurebi. sadac gaCnde-

ba axali niSa, axali Za-

la, iq Casvamen TavianT

xalxs, rom mere arCev-

nebSi xalxma airCios

maT mier Casmuli piri,

TiTqos axali, sinamdvi-

leSi ki damuSavebuli,

romelic Zalauflebis

mopovebis SemTxvevaSi,

kvlav aSS-ze imuSavebs.

roca gamovdivar te-

leekranze, xSirad vam-

bob: me ar velaparakebi

politikosebs, me vela-

parakebi sazogadoebas.

sazogadoebam unda Camo-

ayalibos midgomebi da

gaakeTos is, rac gasake-

Tebelia, magram ra qnas

sazogadoebam, roca yve-

la WuWrutanidan, yvela

mxridan erTi da igive

dezinformacia iRvreba.

ar gavamtyunebdi Cems

xalxs, bolomde rom dabneu-

liyo da sinaTlis sxivi mis

cnobierebas ar mihkareboda,

magram gaacnobiera xalxma da

mixvda, ra gvWirs da ratom.

amis Sedegia amerikeli soci-

ologebis kvlevis rezulta-

ti _ qarTveli xalxis 31%

evraziuli kavSiris momxreao.

am saqmeSi didi `damsaxureba~

miuZRvis TviT aSS-s, maT kar-

gad imuSaves, rom xalxi maT-

ken zurgiT Sebrunebuliyo.

plebisciti an referendumi

unda Catardes, qveynis poli-

tikuri orientacia rom daa-

fiqsiros sazogadoebam, magram

amas ar gaakeTebs saxelmwifo,

arc aSS-is saelCo da viqnebiT

ase, sanam raime gauTvaliswi-

nebeli ar moxdeba.

iranda kalandaZe593 56 11 18

SevardnaZe iyo moRalate! Tu raimes

miaRwia politikur karieraSi, miaRwia

RalatiT da mxolod RalatiT. SeiZleba

iTqvas, is profesionali moRalate iyo...

valeri kvaracxelia:

8 saerTo gazeTi #230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

gvesaubreba uflebadamc-

veli dimitri lorTqi-faniZe:

_ batono dimitri, bolo

dros prorusulad ganwyobi-

li politikuri Zalebi gaaq-

tiurdnen, es ganwyoba sazo-

gadoebaSic Rvivdeba miTume-

tes, rom dasavleTma Cveni

molodinebi ver gaamarTla.

ra cvlilebebs unda velo-

doT qarTul politikur sa-

Wadrako dafaze?

_ dRes, sazogadoeba ora-

daa gayofili, misi erTi na-

wili Tavisi suliskveTebiT

materialistia da sodomiz-

mis apologetobasac ar eri-

deba, meore ki is Zalaa ro-

melic Tavis rols, adgils

da istoriul misias acnobi-

erebs. saqarTvelom unda ga-

acnobieros, rom gadarCenis

erTaderTi gza swored

erovnul Rirebulebebze da-

fuZnebuli politikaa. rac

dro gadis, amas, miT ufro

meti adamiani acnobierebs da

swored esaa dasavluri Za-

lebisTvis SemaSfoTebeli

signali. miuxedavad imisa,

rom èn-di-ai~ da ài-rai~

kvlevis Sedegebs yovelTvis

ayalbebdnen, maT, praqtiku-

lad, aRiares, rom Turme,

mosaxleobis 31% evraziul

kavSirSi gawevrianebas mxars

uWers. damerwmuneT, 31%-dan

SeiZleba, 1%-mac ar icodes

ra aris evraziuli kavSiri.

es ekonomikuri kavSiria,

romlis saxe da forma jer

Camoyalibebuli araa, magram

evraziuls davarqmevT, saba-

Jos Tu Sanxais kavSirs,

mniSvneloba ar aqvs, aq, la-

parakia ualternativos al-

ternativze, rasac dasavleTi

ase mistiris. saqarTvelos

romelic didi xnis manZilze

ruseTis imperiis Semadgene-

li nawili iyo da bevri qar-

texili gamoiara, bunebrivia,

dRes, seriozuli arCevanis

gakeTeba uwevs Tu romeli

gza aris misTvis ganviTare-

bis uzrunvelmyofi. am fon-

ze, roca aseT gzajvaredinze

vimyofebiT, magondeba zRapa-

ri roca marcxniv, marjvniv

da win wasvlis SemTxvevaSic

gamosavali letaluria. miu-

xedavad amisa, saqarTvelos

arCevanis gakeTeba mainc mou-

wevs. diax, qarTulma sazoga-

doebam arCevani erTian evro-

pul ojaxSi Sesvlaze gaake-

Ta. udaoa, Tuki sadme vinme

evropuli RirebulebebiT

amayobs saqarTvelos amis sa-

fuZvelijer kidev mravali

saukunis win hqonda, Tundac,

aviRoT, Tamar mefis epoqa da

imdroindeli adamianis uf-

lebebis dacva, roca sikvdi-

liT dasja gauqmda da mTeli

rigi socialuri pre-

ferenciebi dawesda.

dRes, Cveni axal-

gazrdobis didi

nawili dasavlur

universitetebSi

naTldeba da mniS-

vnelovan codnas,

gamocdilebas

i R e b s ,

rac

saxelmwifos unda moxmar-

des. magram meore mxriv, mo-

diT SevxedoT, rogoria da-

savleTis midgoma saqarTve-

losadmi, ra gakeTda bolo

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ekonomikuri eqspansiis gaaq-

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erTi xeliT lanZRav, xolo

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xidaSels Tina xidaSeli day-

veba, aseve, sxva ministrebic.

es imaze metyvelebs, rom maT

am adgilis dakargva ar surT

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bis~ politikuri gundi ek-

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ideis garSemo darazmuli ada-

mianebi da maT politikuri

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sapnis buStiviT gaskdebian da

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ar ibrZvian partiuli struq-

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bevr warmomadgenels eridebaT

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ra miviReT mmarTvelobis sami

wlis Tavze.

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`nacmoZraoba~ dapirispirebebs

aqtiurad inscenirebs. quTais-

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Tan ganviTarebuli movlenebi

amis naTeli dadasturebaa.

`qarTuli ocnebis~ deputat-

ze daviT lorTqifaniZeze fi-

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ba Tundac sakuTari gundis

wevrebis mimarT, roca umrav-

lesobis deputatas Tavs esx-

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xuris daskvnasTan dakavSirebiT gan-

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ris daskvnasTan dakavSirebiT, rome-

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xurebis Sesyidvis mizniT Catarebul

tenderebs da amave wlebSi gacemul premi-

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tro acxadebs, rom rogorc imdroindeli dokumentaciiT ir-

kveva, kvebiTi momsaxurebis Sesyidvis mizniT 2013-22014 wleb-

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eZlo da am kuTxiT raime saxis SezRudva ar yofila.

amave dokumentebis Tanaxmad, drois uqonlobis gamo Seiq-

mna eqstremaluri viTareba da satendero komisiam miiRo ga-

dawyvetileba, romliTac Tavidan aicila msjavrdebul-

Ta/braldebulTa kvebis organizebis CaSla.

rac Seexeba 2013-22014 wels gacemuli premiebis sakiTxs,

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xlis samarTlis danaSaulis niSnebi, mimarTos mTavar proku-

raturas kanoniT dadgenili wesiT gamoZiebis dawyebis mizniT.

10 saerTo gazeTi #230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

gaxSirebuli ekologiuri ka-

tastrofebi, klimatis globa-

luri cvlilebebi da sruliad

axali, saSiSi daavadebebis gamo-

Cena msoflios gamoCenil mecni-

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re safrTxeebsa da fraqcia „qar-

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romelic saqarTvelos genmodi-

ficirebuli cocxali organiz-

mebis gavrcelebisgan Tavisufal

zonad gamocxadebas exeba. vagr-

ZelebT Temas da mimovixilavT,

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ria misgan miRebuli ekonomiku-

ri sargebeli da zarali, rome-

lic bunebas da qveynis ekonomi-

kas misi warmoebiT adgeba.

Cvens wina werilebSi vwer-

diT, rom axali bioteqnologi-

is ganviTareba, romlis saSua-

lebiT nirSecvlili anu gen-

modificirebuli organizmebis

(gmo) miReba xdeba, wina sauku-

nis 80-iani wlebidan daiwyo.

saqarTvelos unikaluri biomra-

valferovnebisa da isedac mci-

rericxovani genofondis gaTva-

liswinebiT, saqarTvelos mrew-

velTa kavSirma gmo teqnologi-

ebSi imTaviTve safrTxe dainaxa

da sakiTxis safuZvlianad Ses-

wavlis mizniT im mecnierebs da-

ukavSirda, romlebic saqarTve-

loSi gmo-s gavrcelebis winaaR-

mdeg gamodiodnen. 1996 wels

soflis meurneobis imdroinde-

li ministris TaosnobiT, ameri-

kuli genmodificirebuli BTkartofilis Teslis Sesyidvisa

da saqarTveloSi gavrcelebisT-

vis qveyanam 2 milioniani kredi-

ti aiRo. am mzakvrul gegmas da-

upirispirdnen akademikosi givi

TumaniSvili, biomeurneobaTa

asociaciis prezidenti nana nem-

saZe, Tsu biologiis fakulte-

tis genetikis kaTedris gamge

Temur leJava da biologiis mec-

nierebaTa doqtori mzevinar Ro-

RoberiZe. mecnierTa mcdelobam

Sedegi gamoiRo da parlamentis

garemos dacvisa da agrarulo

komitetebis gaerTianebuli

sxdomebis gadawyvetilebiT, gen-

modificirebuli BT kartofi-

lis ganadgureba gadawyda.

gm teqnologiebisgan momdi-

nare safrTxeebi arc eklesiis

yuradRebis miRma darCenila. sa-

qarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarq-

ma 2008 wlis saaRdgomo epis-

toleSi saqarTvelosTvis genmo-

dificirebuli organizmebis gav-

rcelebisa da maTgan damzadebu-

li sakvebis gamoyenebis mizanSe-

uwonlobaze isaubra: „am mimar-

Tulebis momxreebi xSirad amt-

kiceben, rom isini igive saqmia-

nobas ewevian, rasac, magaliTad,

seleqcionerebi, romelTac uke-

Tesi jiSebi gamoyavT.marTalia,

genebis gadacema seleqciis dro-

sac xdeba, magram mxolod erTi

saxeobis an monaTesave saxeobis

individebs Soris. seleqciis

dros brinji SeiZleba Sejvar-

des mxolod brinjis sxva ji-

SebTan, magram ara mag. vaSlTan.

genuri inJineriis SemTxvevaSi ki

es barieri moxsnilia; geni gada-

aqvT mcenaridan mcenareSi, mcena-

ridan cxovelSi, mcenaridan,

cxovelidan an baqteriidan -

adamianSi da a.S. am damaxinje-

bul genebs ki aqvT gamravlebis

unari, rac RvTis mier aTaswle-

ulebis ganmavlobaSi dawesebu-

li saxeobaTSorisi sazRvrebisa

da wesrigis darRvevas iwvevs, es

ki gamousworebel Sedegs mou-

tans garemos da Cvens sulier

samyarosac daazianebs. gamosava-

li erTia, uari unda vTqvaT maT

gamoyenebaze. amasTan, vimedov-

nebT, xelisufleba am sakiTxs

met yuradRebas miaqcevs da gaa-

tarebs qmediT RonisZiebebs, ra-

Ta Cveni soflis meurneoba na-

turaluri produqtebis warmoe-

bis gziT ganviTardes, rac SeiZ-

leba qveynis ekonomikuri ganvi-

Tarebis mZlavr berketadac iq-

ces, radgan msoflioSi ekolo-

giurad sufTa produqtebze

moTxovnileba sul ufro da uf-

ro izrdeba.Tu es ganxorciel-

da, igi did stimuls miscems

rogorc soflis meurneobis

winsvlas, ise am sferoSi gada-

mamuSavebeli biznesis ganviTare-

bas da saerTaSoriso bazarzec

qarTul produqcias Tavis ad-

gils daumkvidrebs.“ _ brZana

ilia meorem.

„Tqva RmerTma aRmoacenos mi-

wam mcenareuli_balaxi, Teslis

mTesveli Tavisi gvaris mixedviT

da xe, Teslovani nayofis momta-

ni Tavisi gvarisda mixedviT. da

iqmna ase.“ swored, saqarTvelos

kaTolikos-patriarqisTvis miZR-

vnil naSromSi „ratomaa genmo-

dificirebuli organizmebi saSi-

Si?“ biologiis mecnierebaTa

doqtori mzevinar RoRoberiZe

gmo teqnologiebsa da maTgan

momdinare safrTxeebze saub-

robs: RvTis es kanoni mcenareeb-

sa da cxovelebSi evoluciura-

daa daculi_sxvadasxva saxeobis

organizmebi erTmaneTs ar ejva-

reba, xolo maTi xelovnuri

Sejvarebisas, STamomavloba una-

yofoa.

gamoCenili mecnieri Tavis

naSromSi yuradRebas gmo teqno-

logiis xarvezebsa da naklova-

nebebze amaxvilebs da ganmar-

tavs, rom kiTxvas, aris Tu ara,

gmo mosalodneli globaluri

SimSilisgan gadarCenis saSua-

leba, 2008 wels gmo teqnolo-

giebis winaaRmdeg gaerosa da

„msoflio bankis“ erToblivma

gamosvlam upasuxa. 400-mde ga-

moCenili mecnieris mier xelmo-

weril moxsenebaSi weria, rom

dReisTvis ganviTarebuli qveyne-

bi iseTi raodenobiT Warb pro-

duqcias awarmoeben, rom Semdeg

fasis stabilizirebis mizniT,

misi ganadgureba uwevT. am

dros, msoflios bevr adgilze

adamianebi SimSiloben. mecniere-

bi ganmartaven, rom moSimSile

adamianebis daxmareba mowinave

qveynebis warmoebuli Warbi pro-

duqciis gadanawilebiT unda

moxdes da ara bolomde Seus-

wavleli da safrTxis Semcveli

teqnologiebiT miRebuli mcena-

reebiT. Sesabamisad, Tanamedrove

sawarmoo da savaWro sistemebi

mogebis gazrdaze fiqris garda

Tu adamianis interesebzec iz-

runeben, gmo teqnologiebiT

Seqmnili saSiSi produqcia sa-

Wiro aRar iqneba.

gmo-m komerciuli gamoyeneba

20 wlis win daiwyo. bunebrivia,

aseT mokle droSi garemoze mi-

si zemoqmedebis xarisxebis zus-

tad dadgena, sakmaod rTulia.

Sesabamisad, mecnierebs jerje-

robiT ar SeuZliaT yvela im Se-

saZlo Sedegis zusti prognozi-

reba gaakeTon, romelic gmo-s

farTo gavrcelebas mohyveba.

amis miuxedavad, yvela Tanxmde-

ba, rom arsebobs saSiSroeba,

adamianis CareviT Seicvalos

cocxali organizmebis memkvid-

reobiTobisa da cvalebadobis

cnobili kanonebi.

2008 wels turinis me-3 sa-

erTaSoriso forumze, romel-

Sic msoflios 160 qveynis

8000-ze metma warmomadgeneli

monawileobda, xeli moewera ma-

nifests klimatis cvlilebebsa

da sakvebis usafrTxoebaze. mani-

festSi aRniSnulia gmo gavrce-

lebis saSiSroeba, garemos mniS-

vnelovani cvlileba da klima-

tis Seuqcevadi gauareseba.

qalaq maincis universitetis

mecnierebis mier Catarebuli sa-

intereso kvlevis Tanaxmad, at-

mosferuli naleqebisa da nis-

lebis gamomwvevi SeiZleba bune-

baSi arsebuli cocxali orga-

nizmebi iyos, vinaidan, haeris na-

wilakebis 80% baqteriebi, vi-

rusebi, wyalmcenareebi, da so-

koebis sporebi, Seadgenen. maga-

liTad, wvimis wveTebisa da Tov-

lis fantelebis SeqmnaSi gansa-

kuTrebul rols TamaSobs yi-

nulwarmomqmneli baqteriebi.

kvlevebiT dadgenilia, rom am

baqteriebis genomis Secvlam se-

riozuli gavlena moaxdina gare-

mo pirobebze. kerZod, bunebaSi

warmoqmnilma baqteriaTa mutan-

tebma daiwyes bunebrivi baqteri-

ebis daTrgunva. savaraudod, amas

ukavSirdeba mTel rig regioneb-

Si dabal temperaturebze uTov-

loba.

zusti pasuxi imaze, ukavSir-

deba Tu ara gmo warmoebas bu-

nebrivi kataklizmebis gaxSireba,

wyaldidobebi, Rvarcofebi, mew-

yerebi da a.S. mecnierTa kvlevis

sagania, Tumca am mimarTulebiT

mecnierTa garkveuli miniSnebebi

ukve arsebobs. 2004 wels, bel-

giis qalaq lieJSi, natos erT-

erTi komitetis sxdomaze gakeT-

da gancxadeba, rom teroriste-

bis xelSi gmo SeiZleba gamoye-

nebul iqnas, rogorc biologiu-

ri iaraRi. metic, arsebobs mo-

sazreba, rom gmo SesaZloa qimi-

ur iaraRadac iqnas gamoyenebu-

li, vinaidan pesticidebisa da

sxva Sxamqimikatebisadmi mdgradi

gm mcenareebi am naerTebis Semg-

roveblebad Tavad gvevlinebian.

Tavis naSromSi mzevinar Ro-

RoberiZe amerikeli avtoris

frederik uiliam engdalis

wigns „gankiTxvis dRis sacav-

sac“ axsenebs. saubaria 2008

wlis 26 Tebervals norvegiaSi

kunZul svalbardze oficialu-

rad gaxsnil gigantur sacavze

„svalbord global seed vault“, ro-melsac 6 milioni saxeobis Tes-

lis dateva SeuZlia. sacavis

Seqmnis oficialurad deklari-

rebuli mizani globaluri ka-

tastrofebis SemTxvevaSi (birT-

vuli omebi, globaluri daTbo-

ba an steroidTan Sejaxeba) mce-

nareTa Teslebis garemo zemoqme-

debisgan dacvaa. mTis siRrmeSi

ganTavsebul sacavamde misasvle-

lad, gayvanilia specialuri

tixrebiTa da hermetuli kare-

biT aRWurvili 120 metriani

gvirabi. yvelaze sainteresoa,

rom am grandiozuli proeqtis

sponsorebi gmo-s Semqmnelebi

„monsanto“, „diu ponti“, „sing-

neta“ da „dou qemikali“ arian.

sacavis Seqmnis realuri mizne-

bis Sesaxeb uamravi versia da

mosazreba arsebobs. erT-erTis

Tanaxmad, „gankiTxvis dRis saca-

vis“ proeqtis sponsorebi gmo-s

gavrcelebisgan gamowveul ka-

tastrofas elodebian, rom im

droisTvis bunebrivi Teslebis

erTaderTi mepatroneebi gaxdnen.

sadamde miva uzarmazari mogebis

msurvelTa dauZleveli fanta-

ziebi, ucnobia, Tumca norvegiis

mTavrobis samecniero mrCeveli,

profesori trevie traaviki, ro-

melic 20 welze metia muSaobs

genuri inJineriis sferoSi dar-

wmunebulia, rom garemosTvis

ucnobi genmodificirebuli kon-

struqciebidan ufro didi saf-

rTxe momdinareobs, vidre qimiu-

ri naerTebidan.

Cvens wina werilebSi

vrclad visaubreT im gamanadgu-

rebel zemoqmedebaze, romelsac

gmo adamianis organizmze axdens,

amitom amjerad mkiTxvelis yu-

radRebas mxolod ramdenime, yve-

laze gaxSirebul gamovlinebaze

SevaCerebT. rogorc cnobilia,

kvebiT alergias safuZvlad or-

ganizmis imunuri meqanizmebis

moSla udevs. alergiebis yvela-

ze mZime gamovlinebad ki sakve-

genmodificirebuli genocidiaikrZaleba Tu ara saqarTveloSi

keTilSobili ideebiT `SefuTuli~

qimiur-biologiuri iaraRis Semotana?

11saerTo gazeTi#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

bis alergiis sistemuri reaq-

cia- anafilaqsia iTvleba. sta-

tistikiT, aSS-Si yovelwliu-

rad, sakvebi produqtebiT gamow-

veuli anafilaqsiuri SokiT 100

adamiani iRupeba. sakvebi cile-

biT gamowveuli alergiulobis

meqanizmi aseTia: cilebis daSla

adamianis kuWsa da nawlavebSi

mimdinareobs da am procesSi

sxvadasxva fermentebis didi ra-

odenoba monawileobs. miuxeda-

vad amisa, yvela cilis aminom-

Javebamde daSla, uzrunvelyofi-

li araa. swored cilam SeiZle-

ba gamoiwvios nebismier orga-

nizmSi sicocxlisTvis saSiSi

garTulebebi. mcenaris ganviTa-

rebis ama Tu im fazaSi gamoyo-

fili cilis Seswavla ver gvi-

pasuxebs, Tu rogori iqneba sa-

qarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeSi

gazrdili transgenuri mcenaris

Semadgeneli naerTebis zegavlena

adamianze.

uzarmazari fuladi resur-

sis mqone gmo-s mwarmoeblebi

msoflioSi udidesi gavleniT

sargebloben da maTi biznesisT-

vis wamgebiani samecniero kvle-

vebis dablokvas yvelanairad

cdiloben, Tumca maTi mcdelo-

bebi yovelTvis Sedegiani araa.

2006 wlis martSi „biousafr-

Txoebis konferenciaze“ moxsene-

ba gaakeTa biologiur mecniere-

baTa doqtorma irina ermakovam.

mecnieris TqmiT, gmo-m SeiZleba

gamoiwvios onkologiuri daava-

debebi, uSviloba, alergiebi,

axalSobilTa paTologiebi da

sikvdilianoba. mcenareTa da

cxovelTa ricxobriobis gaqro-

ba.

2012 wels evropa Sokirebu-

li iyo frangi mecnierebis mier

Catarebuli cdebis SedegebiT.

kanis universitetis mkvlevarebi

2 wlis ganmavlobaSi kvebavdnen

virTxebs monsantos warmoebis

NK 603 simindiT. Sedegad, mdedr

virTxebs sarZeve jirkvlebze

daaxloebiT magidis CogburTis

zomis simsivneebi ganuviTardaT.

kvlevis Sedegebis gamJRavnebas

evropis qveynebSi saprotesto

gamosvlebi mohyva.

sainteresoa, rogoria gmo

kulturebis moyvaniT miRebul

ekonomikuri sargebeli, razec

gmo teqnologiebis damcvelebi

apelireben. rogorc gairkva,

sul ufro meti fermeri rwmun-

deba, rom genmodificirebuli

kulturebis moyvana mxolod

Teslis mwarmoeblebisTvis aris

momgebiani. gmo sasoflo-sameur-

neo produqciis komerciuli

warmoeba aSS-Si1996 wels da-

iwyo da aqedan moyolebuli,

gmo-s mier dakavebuli terito-

riebis farTi da produqciis

realizaciiT miRebuli Semosava-

li sul ufro izrdeba. mogebas

iRebs gm Teslebis mwarmoebeli

ramdenime kompania „MONSAN-TO“, “OVARTIS”, “AVENTIS”,“DIU PONT” da sxvebi. rac Se-exeba fermerebis mogebas, 2004

wels amerikelma fermerebma gm

TeslebSi 2,2 miliardi dolari

gadaixades, rac 2001 welTan

SedarebiT, 1 miliardiT metia,

Tumca hibriduli simindiT „aSe-

nebis“ momlodine qarTveli

glexebis msgavsad, amerikelebic

imedgacruebulni darCnen. aRmoC-

nda, rom giganturi Semosavali,

romelsac fermerebs pirdebod-

nen, bunebaSi ar arsebobs. vfiq-

robT, zogierTi qarTveli eko-

nomistisTvis, romelic gmo

cocxali organizmebis Semota-

nas ekonomikuri faqtoriT amar-

Tlebs, saintereso iqneba aSS

soflis meurneobis departamen-

tis mier gamoqveynebuli monace-

mebi. Tvalis erTi gadavlebiTac

Cans, rom 2000 wels Statebis

teritoriaze moyvanili Cveu-

lebrivi da gm soios mosavlia-

nobaSi umniSvnelo gansxvavebaa.

ilinoisi_Cveulebrivi soio

3,9 (t/ha) . gm soio 4,04 (t/ha)

aiova_Cveulebrivi soio

4,10(t/ha). gm soio 3.83(t/ha)

miCigani_Cveulebrivi soio

4,44(t/ha). gm soio 4.30(t/ha)

minnesota_Cveulebrivi soi-

o(t/ha) 4.44. gm.soio 4.10(t/ha)

nebraska_Cveulebrivi soi-

o(t/ha) 3, 90. gm.soio 3.

43(t/ha)

ohaio_ Cveulebrivi soio

4.04. (t/ha) gm.soio 3.90 (t/ha)

samxreT dakota _ Cveuleb-

rivi soio 3.30. (t/ha) gm.soio

2,96(t/ha)

viskonsini_ Cveulebrivi

soio (t/ha) 4.77. gm soio 4.64

(t/ha)

analigiuri Sedegebi iqna mi-

Rebuli, genmodificirebuli si-

mindis da rafsis mosavlianobi-

sa da xarjebis gansazRvrisas.

ramdenime wlis win evrokav-

SirSi gamoqveynda moxseneba

(who benefits from GM crops? Ananalisis of the global performanceof genetically modified (GM)GROPS 1996-2006), romelSic

mkafiod iyo miniSnebuli, rom

ganvlil aTwleulSi transge-

nurma kulturebma veraviTari

sargebeli ver moitana: ferme-

rebma verc mogeba miiRes, verc

produqciis samomxmareblo Tvi-

sebebi gaaumjobeses da verc ada-

mianebi ixsnes SimSilisgan. sama-

gierod, gm kulturebis warmoe-

biT miiRes ukiduresad uaryofi-

Ti gavlena bunebaze da gamoiw-

vies misi biomravalferovnebis

Semcireba. moaxdines uaryofiTi

zemoqmedeba adamianTa da cxo-

velTa janmrTelobaze.

sul axlaxan, rusuli gamo-

cema „argumenti i faqti“ ru-

suli miwebis ucxoelebisTvis

ijariT gadacemis negatiur Se-

degebze werda da magaliTad, 2

wlis win Cinuri kompaniebis mi-

er erT-erT olqSi 100 000 heq-

tari saxnav-saTesi miwis ijariT

aRebas asaxelebda. gamocemis

informaciiT, Cinelebi miwas 3-5

wliani ijariT iRebdnen, Tumca

ratomRac erTi an ori wlis

Semdeg tovebdnen. rogorc gair-

kva, Cinelebs SemohqondaT genmo-

dificirebuli soios Tesli da

Sxamqimikatebi. erT heqtar miwis

farTobze daaxloebiT, 25 cent-

ner genmodificirebul soios

iwevdnen, adgilze yiddnen da mi-

Rebuli fuliT SeZenili natu-

raluri soio sakuTar qveyanaSi

mihqondaT. gamocema gansakuTre-

biT amaxvilebs yuradRebas, rom

ZviradRirebuli samuSaoebis Ca-

tarebis gareSe (danaxarji1 heq-

tarze 1000 dolars Seadgens),

im miwis saxnav-saTesad gamoyene-

ba, romelzec ori wlis ganmav-

lobaSi gm kulturebi mohyav-

daT, SeuZlebelia. am gamofi-

tul miwaze aRaraferi xarobs,

is CvenTvis sruliad gamoudega-

ria. gamodis, rom Cvens miwaze

ucxoelebis SemoSvebiT qveyana

gavaRatakeT_wers rusuli gamo-

cema.

saqarTvelom, romelic Ta-

visi gamorCeuli biomravalfe-

rovnebiT msoflios gamorCeul

20 qveyanaSi Sedis, gansakuTre-

bulad unda ifiqros am saSiS-

roebaze da daicvas Tavisi sagan-

Zuri, miT umetes, rom evropis

sul ufro meti qveyana uerTde-

ba genmodificirebuli cocxali

organizmebis kultivireba-moy-

vanis akrZalvis mizniT dawye-

bul „mwvane talRas“. bevrma ev-

ropulma saxelmwifom ukve

isargebla axali regulaciebiT

da srulad akrZala Tavis teri-

toriaze gm cocxali organizme-

bis (saTesle masala) introduq-

cia. magaliTisTvis getyviT, rom

dania, luqsemburgi da malta

SeuerTdnen evropis im qveynebis

mzard sias, romlebmac zurgi

Seaqcies gmo marcvlovan kul-

turebs. gmo kulturebisgan Ta-

visufal zonad gamocxadda avs-

tria, bulgareTi, xorvatia

kviprosi, saberZneTi, bulgare-

Ti, ungreTi, italia, latvia,

litva, niderlandebi, poloneTi,

slovenia, uelsi, Sotlandia da

Crd irlnaldia. am qveynebma ka-

tegoriuli uari uTxres gmo-

os yvela kulturas, rac kidev

erTxel adasturebs, rom qvey-

nebma romlebsac gmo produqci-

is warmoebaSi mravalwliani ga-

mocdileba aqvT, ver aRmoaCines

misi upiratesoba. gmo kultiva-

ciis xarjze, maTi ekonomika ar

gazrdila da SedegiT kmayofi-

lebi ar arian, amitom misi qvey-

nis masStabiT akrZalva msof-

lio tendenciad iqca. am pro-

cesis paralelurad, biologiur

da ekologiurad sufTa produq-

ciaze moTxovna yoveldRiurad

izrdeba.

werilis bolos gTavazobT

ekologiuri organizacia „grin-

fisis“ mier Sedgenil sias, ro-

melSic genmodificirebuli

produqciis arakeTilsindisieri

mwarmoeblebi arian Seyvanili.

gansakuTrebiT sayuradReboa,

rom maT Soris bevria im sabavS-

vo kvebis produqtebis mwarmoe-

beli, romlebic saqarTvelos

supermarketebSi Tavisuflad

iyideba da aranairiminiSneba,

rom maT SemadgenlobaSi genmo-

dificirebuli ingredientebia,

ar aqvs.

1. Hershey’s Cadbury Fruit&Nut-isSokoladis nawarmi

2. Mars M&M3. Snickers4. Twix5. Milky Way6. Cadbury (qedberi) Sokoladi, ka-

kao

7. Ferrero-s nawarmi8. Nestle nestles produqcua, Soko-

ladebi Nestle, Ðîññèÿ9. Sokoladis sasmeli Nestle Nesquik10. gamagrilebeli sasmeli Coca-cola11. spraiti , fanta, toniki kinli,

furqtaimi

12. kompania pepsikos – Pepsi13. 7-Up, fiesta, mounTin diu14. Kellogg’s – is mSrali sakvebi

15. Campbell – is supebi

16. Uncle Bens Mars – is brinji

17. Knorr–is sousebi18. Lipton–is Cai19. Parmalat–is namcxvrebi20. Hellman’s –is maionezebi da sou-

sebi

21. Heinz - is maionezebi da sousebi

22. Nestle–s sabavSvo kveba23. Hipp

24. Abbot Labs Similac25. Denon-is iogurtebi, kefiri, yve-

li da sabavSvo kveba.

26. McDonald’s-is swrefi kvebis

restronebi mTlianad

27. Kraft-is Sokoladebi, Cipsebi, ya-

va da sabavSvo kveba

28. Heinz Foods - sousebi da ketCu-pebi

29. ««Äåëìè»» Unilever – sabavSvo

sakvebi produqcia

TTaannaammeeggoobbrroobbiiss qqvveeyynneebbSSii wwaarrmmooeebbuullii

pprroodduuqqcciiaa

• ÀÎÎÒ «Íèæåãîðîäñêèé ìàñëîæè-ðîâîé êîìáèíàò» (maionezi «Ðÿáà»,«Âïðîê» da sxva)

• ÇÀÎ «Áàëòèìîð-Íåâà» - ketCupe-bi

• ÇÀÎ «Ìèêîÿíîâñêèé ìÿñîêî-ìáèíàò» — paSteti, farSi

• ÇÀÎ ÞÐÎÏ ÔÓÄÑ ÃÁ» — supebi

«Ãàëèíà Áëàíêà»• koncerni «Áåëûé îêåàí» — Cipsebi

«Ðóññêàÿ êàðòîøêà»• ÎÀÎ «Ëèàíîçîâñêèé ìîëî÷íûé

êîìáèíàò» — iogurtebi «×óäî-ìîëîêî»,«×óäî-øîêîëàä».

• ÎÀÎ «×åðêèçîâñêèé ÌÏÇ» — ga-

yinuli xorcis farSi

• ÎÎÎ «Êàìïèíà» — iogurtebi, sa-

bavSvo kveba

• ÎÎÎ «ÌÊ Ãóðìàí» — paSteti

• ÎÎÎ «Ôðèòî» — Cipsebi «leis»

• ÎÎÎ «Ýðìàíí» — iogurtebi

• ÎÎÎ «Þíèëåâåð ÑÍÃ» — maione-

zi «Calve»• Ôàáðèêà «Áîëüøåâèê» — namcxvari

«Þáèëåéíîå»““ggrriinnffiissiiss”” SSaavv ssiiaaSSiiaa SSeessuullii SSeemm-

ddeeggii kkoommppaanniieebbii

«Äàðüÿ — naxevradfabrikatebi»,

ÎÎÎ "Ìÿñîêîìáèíàò Êëèíñêèé", ÌÏÇ"Òàãàíñêèé", ÌÏÇ "ÊàìïîÌîñ", ÇÀÎ"Âè÷þíàé", ÎÎÎ "ÌËÌ-ÐÀ",ÎÎÎ"Òàëîñòî-ïðîäóêòû", ÎÎÎ"Êîëáàñíûé êîìáèíàò "Áîãàòûðü", ÎÎÎ"ÐÎÑ Ìàðè Ëòô".

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa:: Unilever: Lipton(Cai), Brooke Bond (Cai), «Áåñåäà» (Cai),Calve (maionezi, ketCupi), Rama (karaqi),

«piSka» (margarini), «delmi» (maionezi,

iogurti, margarini), «algida» (nayini),

Knorr (sakvebi danamatebi da maionezi);

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Nestle: Nescafe(yava da rZe), Maggi (supi, bulioni, mai-

onezi, Nestle (Sokoladi), Nestea (civi

Cai), Neseqiuk (kakao);

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Kellog’s (CornFlakes , Frosted Flakes , Rice Krispies , CornPops, Smacks , Froot Loops, Apple Jacks , Afl-bran Apple Cinnamon/ Blueberry , ChocolateChip , Pop Tarts , Nulri grain , Crispix , All-Bran , Just Right Fruit & Nut , Honey CrunchCorn Flakes , Raisin Bran Crunch , Crack-lin’Oat Bran)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Hershey’s (Tob-lerone (yvelas saxis Sokoladi), Mini Kisses,Kit-Kat , Kisses , Semi-Sweet Baking Chips,Milk Chocolate Chips , Reese’s Peanut ButterCups, Special Dark , Milk Chocolate , Choco-late Syrup , Special Dark Chocolate Syrup ,Strawberry Syrup)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Mars (M&M’S,Snickers, Milky Way, Twix, Nestle, Crunch,Milk Chocolate Nestle , Nesquik (Sokoladissasmeli), Cadbury (Cadbury/Hershey’s), Fruit& Nut)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Heinz (Ketchup(regular & no salt) , Chili Sauce, Heinz 57 Ste-ak Sauce )

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Coca-Cola (Co-ca Cola, Sprite, Charry Cola, Minute MaidOrange, Minute Maid Grape)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa PepsiCo (Pepsi,Pepsi Cherry, Mountain Dew)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Frito — Lay /PepsiCo (Lays Potato Chips, Cheetos)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa Cadbury /Schweppes (7-Up, Dr. Pepper)

mmwwaarrmmooeebbeellii kkoommppaanniiaa PringlesProcter&Gamble (Pringles – Original,LowFat, Pizzalicious, Sour Cream & Onion,

Salt & Vinegar, Cheezeums).da bolos, Cven vdgavarT di-

di arCevanis winaSe. unda mivi-

RoT gadawyvetileba, Tu ra sa-

xis produqtiT gvinda gavaZlie-

roT qveynis ekonomika da gav-

zardoT Cveni Svilebi, ekologi-

urad sufTa da bunebrivi qarTu-

li kulturebiT Tu xelovnu-

rad Seqmnili hibridebiT, rome-

lic dRes evropaSi ase mkacrad

ikrZaleba? Cvens qveyanaSi ukve

wlebis ganmavlobaSi mimdinare-

obs brZola imisTvis, rom aikr-

Zalos cocxali genmodificire-

buli organizmebis introduqcia

da moxdes genmodificirebuli

ingredientebis Semcveli pro-

duqciis TvalsaCino da mkafiod

gamoxatuli markireba. am moZra-

obas saTaveSi udgas saparlamen-

to fraqcia „qarTuli ocneba“

gamoCenil samecniero wreebTan

erTad. vfiqrobT, rom am brola-

Si sazogadoeba Soridan mayu-

reblis pozicias ar unda das-

jerdes, radgan saboloo arCeva-

ni mxolod Cveni misaRebia.

magaliTad: transgenuri mcena-

ris regulatorul meqanizms aqvs

moqmedebis nakli, rac bunebriv pi-

robebSi ar xdeba. mcenareebSi ge-

notipis 50 000-ze meti genidan

dReisTvis ,zogierT saxeobaSi

Seswavlilia 200-300 geni. genu-

ri inJineriiT mxolod erTi genis

gadanergva xdeba, rac poligeniu-

ri nizSanTvisebis Camoyalibebas

xels ver Seuwyobs. araa Seswav-

lili genmodificirebul orga-

nizmSi CeSenebuli genis mravlo-

biTi moqmedeba da genTa urTierT-

moqmedeba. ar aris gaTvlili or-

ganizmSi antibiotikebisadmi gamZ-

le markeruli genebis CaSenebas-

Tan dakavSirebuli riskebi da a.S.

neli Tordia571 35 36 88

„gmo kulturebis moyvanam SeiZleba mig-

viyvanos garemo pirobebis mkveTr gauare-

sebamde, klimaturi pirobebis cvlilebam-

de da biosferos Seuqcevel ngrevamde.“

12 saerTo gazeTi #230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

interviu istorikosTan,

`rusTavi-22~-iis yofil

TanamSromelTan

daTo gogiSvilTan

_ daTo, bolo xanebSi so-

cialur qselSi xSirad aqvey-

nebT Tqvens mosazrebebs tele-

kompania `rusTavi-22~-iis garSe-

mo Seqmnil movlenebTan dakav-

SirebiT.

_ am dReebSi nika gvaramiam

ganacxada: `rusTavi-2~-i xeli-

suflebam, faqtobrivad, daxu-

rao, es aris viTarebis xelov-

nurad daZabvis mcdeloba, rad-

gan, sinamdvileSi, daxurvaze

saubari araa. mimdinareobs mar-

Tlmsajulebis aRsrulebis

procesi da kanonieri mflobe-

lis garkvevis mcdeloba.

roca saubaria Tavisufali

mediis SezRudvaze, CemTvis ga-

urkvevelia aseTi pretenziebi,

radgan mimdinareobs Cveuleb-

rivi samarTalwarmoeba da imis

garkveva, Tu vin aris telekom-

paniis kanonieri mflobeli.

Jurnalistebis garkveulma

jgufma ukve sajarod moaxdina

sakuTari Tavis lustrireba,

warmoaCina Tavi, rogorc mxa-

rem da ara, rogorc miukerZo-

ebelma pirma. Cemi azriT, maT

moraluri ufleba aRar eqne-

baT deokupirebul `rusTavi-

2~-Si imuSaon. ai, aq ikveTeba

ZiriTadi kvanZi, ris gamoc

arian ase aRSfoTebulni.

`rusTavi-2~-is gakeTilSo-

bileba, misi dabruneba satele-

vizio konkurenciis pirobebSi

da Cveulebriv Jurnalistur

sivrceSi, gamoiwvevs e. w. naci-

onali Jurnalistebis gamargi-

nalebas, maT wasvlas Jurna-

listikidan. es aris maTi gaRi-

zianebis mizezi. am telekompa-

niis bevr TanamSromels aravi-

Tari cvlileba ar Seexeba, mag-

ram zogierTebs SecdomaSi Seh-

yavT isini, aSineben _ televi-

zia ixureba da aTasi ubedure-

ba moxdebao.

_ Tqven romel wlebSi mu-

SaobdiT am telekompaniaSi?

_ 2005-2012 wlebSi.

rodesac iq mivedi samuSa-

od, qibar xalvaSi iyo te-

lekompaniis xelmZRvaneli da

unda aRvniSno, Zalian kargi

samuSao situacia damxvda yve-

la TvalsazrisiT.

im xanebSi, rogorc Cans,

saakaSvili mixvda, rom es te-

levizia, SesaZlo iyo, ar da-

morCileboda da daiwyo misi

ganeitraleba. maSin ukve naTe-

li gaxda, adamianebi, romlebic

SevardnaZes ebrZodnen, TviTon

dainteresdnen SevardnaZis ko-

rufciuli sqemebiT, moewonaT

kidevac imdroindeli maqinaci-

ebi da mere TviTonve gaxdnen

iseTebi, ris winaaRmdegac,

TiTqosda, Tavidan ibrZodnen.

TviTonve gaxdnen Cinovnikebi.

Cinovnikad Jurnalisti arasd-

ros unda iqcees _ sityvis Ta-

visuflebis da obieqturobisT-

vis unda ibrZolos, ar unda

iyos romelime politikuri an

saxelisuflo reJimis mxardam-

Weri da mexotbe.

roca muSaob damoukidebel

televiziaSi, gqvia Jurnalis-

ti da erT dRes Sss-s prescen-

trSi an sxva saxelmwifo

struqturaSi aRmoCndebi, es

niSnavs, rom Jurnalisturi

saqmianobis periodSic alians-

Si iyavi ama Tu im saxelisuf-

lebo struqturasTan, iyavi

nomenklaturis nawili.

vinc ver gauZlo im wnexs

da sistemis nawili ar gaxda,

wavida telekompaniidan.

2007 wlis 7 noembris Sem-

deg saakaSvilma biznesis masi-

uri terori daiwyo. es pirda-

pirproporciulia sareklamo

bazris.

miT ufro, rom TviT qi-bar xalvaSsac ramdenime

milionis qoneba gaunadgures,

mospes oquaSvili da tele-

kompania ìberia~, daangries

badri patarkaciSvilisbiznesebi da a.S. televiziebs

Semosavlebi moaklda da iZu-

lebulni gaxdnen an daxuru-

liyvnen, an xelisuflebas Se-

kedlebodnen. es Sansi ìynosa~

saakaSvilma maSin da daiqvemde-

bara damoukidebeli media. do-

taciaze mediis ayvana ki mis

Tavisuflebas klavs. es Cveu-

lebrivi ambavia.

ase Seiqmna Sss-s, Tavdacvis

saministros, Tbilisis meriis

aralegaluri fondebi, rom-

lebic `rusTavi-2~-s da

sxvadasxva sainformacio saSu-

alebebs afinansebdnen.

is adamianebi, romlebic sa-

redaqcio wnexis qveS muSaobd-

nen saakaSvilis dros, bunebri-

via, davalebulni arian im re-

Jimisgan da TviTon saakaSvili-

sac. isini Seezardnen reJims

ise, rom verc warmoudgeniaT,

rogori SeiZleba iyos alter-

natiuli, namdvili Jurnalis-

turi xedvis mqone mediasaSua-

leba. amitom Zalian Ria teqs-

tebiT gamodian. Tu adre `naci-

onali Jurnalistebi~ TavianT

damokidebulebas raRac-

nairad mainc fuTavdnen,

axla naxeT nanuka Jor-

Jolianis statusebi,

sxva `nacionali Jurna-

listebis~ gamonaTqvamebi

da mosazrebani, eseni

arian Cveulebrivi Cinov-

nikebi da partiuli aq-

tivistebi.

amas bolo unda moe-

Ros.

_ anu veRar SeZleben

profesiuli saqmianobis

gagrZelebas?

_ rogorc Jurnalis-

tebi, ise arian diskreditire-

bulni, ise Seircxvines Tavi

sazogadoebis winaSe, rom, ami-

eridan, rogorc Jurnalistebs,

maT sazogadoeba aRar miiRebs.

roca wminda Cinovnikur, naci-

onalur sibinZureSi aqvT mona-

wileoba miRebuli, rogor un-

da darwmunon sazogadoeba Ta-

vianT sikargeSi da savle gax-

des pavle. ar gamova es ambavi.

_ Tqven zemoT fondebi ax-

seneT. ra fondebze saubrob-

diT?

_ magaliTad, xSirad axse-

nebdnen, rom `rusTavi-2~ Sen-

deboda Sss-s aqtiuri mxarda-

WeriT. axali ofisi rom aSen-

da, iq vano merabiSvilicvnaxe ramdenimejer. mSeneblo-

bas aTvalierebda.

xelisuflebas ar aqvs uf-

leba kerZo mediasaSualebas

Tanxebi uxados, an sxva kuT-

xiT daexmaros.

iyo saubrebi, rom Tbilisis

meriac ixdida garkveul Tan-

xebs am telekompaniiisTvis.

nacionalebis `lubimCik~

e.w. Jurnalistebs, Souebis

wamyvanebs da sxvebs, saakaSvi-

lisdroindeli Zalovani st-

ruqturebi xels uwyobdnen,

sasaTbure pirobebSi yofiliy-

vnen da kargi finansuri ana-

zRaureba hqonodaT.

maRal xelfasebs ki `rus-

Tavi-2~ sareklamo Semosavle-

bidan ver uzrunvelyofda, ami-

tomac, dotaciis Tvalsazri-

siT, aqtiuri Careva mimdinare-

obda saakaSvilis xelisufle-

bis mxridan.

_ angariSi gaxsnes `rusTa-

vi-22~-iis dasaxmareblad. es

normalurad migaCniaT?

_ saubaria imaze, rom te-

lekompaniis Semosavlebis yve-

la wyaro, fulad-sakredito

operaciebi, komerciuli Ses-

yidvebisa da sxva legaluri

SemosavlebisTvis telekompani-

as gaZnelebuli aqvs, radgan

saqme ZiebaSia. es Cveulebrivi

sakanonmdeblo normaa. yvela

sabanko operacia izRudeba, sa-

nam ar gairkveva kanonieri

mflobelis sakiTxi.

`qarTuli ocnebis~ xeli-

suflebam arakanonieri, moqmed

kanonmdeblobasTan Seusabamoba-

Si myofi arxebi gadauketa

`rusTavi-2~-s da amiT arian

isini ukmayofilo.

rogorc wesi, `rusTavi-2~

da xelisufleba iyvnen, ormagi

standartis matarebelni. ì-

medSi~ rom SeiWra specrazmi

da kerZo piris _ badri patar-

kaciSvilis qoneba mospo, is

iyo demokratia da axla, roca

kanonmdeblobis dacviT, marT-

la Tmis Reri ar Camovardnia

aravis `rusTavi-2~-Si, es aris

kanondarRveva da mediis ufle-

bebis Selaxva?!

sxvaTa Soris, samarTalma

rom izeimos, TviT nika gvara-

miac cixeSi unda ijdes mis mi-

er Cadenili qmedebebis gamo.

aqve unda aRvniSno, Cven

`rusTavi-2~-s, rogorc perso-

nalias ki ar unda vebrZoloT,

unda vebrZoloT `rusTavi-2~-

izms, rogorc movlenas, To-

rem SeiZleba dadges safrTxe,

rom axali `rusTavi-2~ mivi-

RoT da nacionalebis qurqga-

mocvlili adamianebi gadmo-

bargdnen axali xelisuflebis

struqturebSi, axali margina-

luri telekompaniis dasakom-

pleqteblad. kriteriumebi un-

da vamxiloT da davamsxvrioT,

rac `rusTavi-2~-ma daamkvidra

am qveyanaSi. es tendenciebi

gansakuTrebiT mediaSi SeiniS-

neba.

yvela vTanxmdebiT, rac iq

xdeba, es ar aris Jurnalisti-

ka da rac maT daamkvidres

Jurnalistur standartebSi,

aris negativi.

maxsovs, `nacionalurma~

xelisuflebam dotaciaze aiy-

vana `rusTavi-2~ da moiTxova

am meqanizmis kontroli. maSin

ukve Ria teqstebiT midioda

saubrebi. sxvadasxva msxvil ga-

damxdelebs kezeraSviliTviTon ugegmavda, romel te-

leviziaSi ra doziT unda mie-

tanaT reklama, ramdeni wuTiT

ra unda Casmuliyo da a.S. aqe-

dan gamomdinare, wamyvanebis

xelfasebis momatebaSic ere-

odnen Sesabamisi struqturebi

da iwyeboda CarTvebi Tavdac-

vis saministros Sesabamis sam-

saxurebSi, magaliTad, kalaT-

burTis da fexburTis gundebis

TanamSromlebad da a.S. mere,

roca miiRes informacia, rom

2012 wels antisaakaSviliseu-

li muxti momwifebuli iyo

`rusTavi-2~-Si, daiwyo zewo-

lebi TanamSromlebze. gansa-

kuTrebiT axalaiaebi aqtiu-

robdnen. im xanebSi Zalian di-

di jgufi vapirebdiT wamosv-

las `rusTavi-2~-dan, magram

axalaiebis CareviT SeCerda es

procesi.

erT ramesac vityvi im Jur-

nalistebze da e. w. saxeebze,

dRemde saflavSi rom miyvebian

`nacmoZraobas~, rogor ggoni-

aT, ar ician, ras warmoadgenda

saakaSvili? magram kezeraS-vilebi, axalaiebi, ugu-lavebi da sxvebi ar Semoi-

farglebodnen mxolod imiT,

rom karg xelfasebs urigebd-

nen da privilegiebs aniWebdnen

Jurnalistebs. isini komproma-

tebsac agrovebdnen am `cnobad

saxeebze~ da dRemde floben

maTze mniSvnelovan informaci-

ebs.

vimedovneb, `rusTavi-2~-is

axali mflobelis vinaoba male

gairkveva. maSin nika gvaramia

kargavs funqcias, is xdeba Cve-

ulebrivi moqalaqe. ai, es aris

misTvis yvelaze Zneli warmo-

sadgeni.


samarTalma rom izeimos, nika

gvaramia cixeSi unda ijdes!

daTo gogiSvili:

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vesaubrebiT fizika-mmaTema-

tikur mecnierebaTa doq-

tors, profesor jemal me-bonias.

_ batono jemal, minda

gkiTxoT Tqveni azri dRes

arsebul saganmanaTleblo

sferoze. faqtia, rom dRemde

verc erTma reformam mas ver

uSvela. piriqiT, situacia

ufro gamwvavda da ukupro-

cesi ganicada, Tu ganaTlebis

donis amaRleba qveynis upir-

velesi prioriteti ar gaxda,

saqarTvelos, rogorc qveynis

arseboba, SeiZleba seriozu-

li eWvis qveS dadges, ra un-

da gavakeToT dRes, rom xval

es problema gadaiWras?

_ daviwyoT iqidan, Tu ra

xdeba dRes skolebSi, faq-

tobrivad, iq Catarda anti-reforma, romelmac mTli-

anad gaauaresa mdgomareoba.

es iyo mizanmimarTuli Sec-

doma, Tu danaSauli ara. Tum-

ca dRemde gaugebaria, ra

hqondaT Cafiqrebuli mis av-

torebs. is standartebi, ro-

melic dRes skolebSi arse-

bobs, uvargisia. aseTivea Se-

sabamisi programebi da sa-

xelmZRvaneloebis umetesoba,

gamonaklisebis garda.

Cemi specialobidan gamom-

dinare, vityvi, rom, rodesac

fizikis saxelmZRvaneloebis

avtorebs vekiTxebi, Tu ra-

tom daweres es wignebi ase-

Ti saxiT, mpasuxoben, rom es

wignebi maT moarges dawese-

bul standartebs. mimaCnia,

rom es ar aris Tavis gamar-

Tleba, me, piradad, amas ar

vizamdi!

Tavad maswavlebelTa ga-

naTlebis done skolebSi sa-

survelze dabalia. Tumca, ma-

le albaT, isinic ar gveyo-

leba, radganac deda-univer-

siteti aRar uSvebs am dar-

gis specialistebs. cota

xnis win viRacam gamoTvala,

rom Tu ase gagrZelda, moma-

vali 4 wlis mere fizikis

maswavleblebi aRar gveyole-

ba!

_ batono jemal, ganaTle-

bis saministros xom aqvs

proeqti, romelic samTviani

kursis gavlis Semdeg sxva-

dasxva specialobis adamia-

nebs nebismieri sagnis maswav-

leblis kvalifikacias ani-

Webs, magaliTad, dRes sko-

lebSi maTematikas bevrgan as-

wavlian ekonomistebi, bio-

logebi da a.S. amaze ras ity-

viT?

_ es Zalian cudia, magram

faqtia, rom marto ekono-

mists ki ara, veteqimsac aqvs

amis ufleba, es sruli gau-

gebroba veraviTar kritikas

ver uZlebs. is faqti, rom

studentebis gamocda xdeba

testurad da ara uSualod

profesorebis mier, studen-

tisa da profesoris Sexved-

ra gamocdaze iyo ara mxo-

lod codnis Semowmeba, ara-

med codnis gadacemis gagrZe-

leba; amrigad, skolebSi ar-

sebuli problema avtomatu-

rad gadadis umaRles saswav-

leblebSi, iq, sadac aseve ga-

umarTavi programebia, aqedan

gamomdinare, problemas prob-

lema emateba.

Tsu-Si ganaTlebis doneze

aSkara uaryofiTi gavlena

moaxdina im faqtma, rom 2005

wels daaweses SezRudva, ro-

desac daadgines wesi 20-saa-

Tiani saleqcio datvirTvis

Sesaxeb. maSinac vikiTxe me,

ratom akeTebdnen amas, pasuxi

iyo aseTi, saxelmwifos ara

aqvs fuli, amitom xelovnu-

rad moxda saaTebis Semcire-

bao. anomaliaa isic, rom, ma-

galiTad, qimikosi da biolo-

gi swavlobs erTsemes-

trian fizikas. me, pi-

radad, 10 weli viyavi

universitetis fizikis

fakultetze zogadi

fizikis kaTedris gam-

ge, magram ar mesmis,

ras niSnavs erTsemest-

riani zogadi fizikis

swavleba _ es CemT-vis, rogorc spe-cialistisTvis,sruliad gaugeba-ria. zogadi fizika

ikiTxeboda 8 fakul-

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_ erT-erTSesaZlo gamo-savlad, Tumcaara erTader-Tad, mimaCniais, rom iv. java-xiSvilis saxe-lobis Tbili-sis saxelmwi-fo universi-tets, rogorcqveynis mTavarumaRles sas-wavlebels, un-da mieniWosgansakuTrebu-

li statusi, dRes es si-tuacia qveyanaSi ukvemomwifda, es siaxle ar

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is unda daubrundes norma-

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umaRlesi saswavlebelic, iseve,

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Ralkvalificiuri maswavleblebi

eyolebaT. im sxva universitetebSi

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uri specialistis aRzrda yvela-

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erTi gamosavali imisa, rom qveya-

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xi yvela safexurze da deda-universitetma unda aiRoses tvirTi da valdebuleba.logikurad, am iniciativasmxari unda dauWiro ganaTle-

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gas saxelmwifom am mimarTulebiT

nabiji?

me msurs am sakiTxebze ga-imarTos diskusia, WeSmari-ti msjeloba, romelicswor gamosavals gvapovni-nebs da qveyanas eSveleba. sa-

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werili momitana: _ gadaxede, iqneb sainteresod mo-

geCvenoso. mas Semdeg kvireebi gavida da batoni zura-

bis naTqvami gonebidan gadamcilda da axlaxan wavawy-

di Cems magidaze batoni zurab ratianis motanil saga-

zeTo publikacias saTauriT `ruseTis moqalaqeebs~.

vladimer staroselski, romlis werilic aris ga-

moqveynebuli batoni zurab ratianis mier motanil

rusul gamocemaSi, zogadsakacobrio movlenad ar iT-

vleba msoflio azrovnebaSi, magram misi werili mTli-

anad arRvevs yovelgvar kuTxurobas, gmobs Zaladobas

da oms.

staroselskim es werili 1905 wels, revoluciuri

qariSxlebis mZvinvarebis dros dawera. maSin is quTai-

sis gubernatori gaxldaT da qarTvelebi ase moixseni-

ebdnen: `Cveni lado!~

es `Cveni lado~ male ajanyebuli qarTvelebis arao-

ficialur prezidentad iqca.

reaqcia mZvinvarebda.

ixoceboda xalxi, asaxlebdnen cimbirSi, xvretdnen.

staroselski ki mimarTavs rus xalxs.

Zveli quTaisi

vvllaaddiimmeerr ssttaarroosseellsskkii

16 saerTo gazeTi #230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

lenini erT-eerT saidumlo

werilSi, romelic politbi-

uros wevrebisTvis iyo gan-

kuTvnili, naTlad werda: `ax-

la, rodesac mosaxleoba Sim-

Silobs, aris kanibalobis

SemTxvevebi, adamianebs aRar

edardebaT eklesiis saqmeebi,

oRond ki cocxlebi darCnen.

yvelani dakavebulebi arian

TavianTi saqmeebiT, gadarCenis

problemiT. dadga xelsayre-

li dro, raTa gamoviyenoT es

situacia. gavuswordeT mTel

reaqciul burJuazias da re-

aqciul sasuliero wodebas

da rac met mters davxocavT,

miT ufro ukeTesi, magram

amis gakeTeba saWiroa Zalze

swrafad, radgan xalxi Za-

ladobis atanas didxans ver

SeZlebs. gavwyvitoT rac Se-

iZleba meti sasuliero piri.

axla zogierT qalaqSi sasu-

liero pirebma moaxdines

morwmuneTa mitingebis da de-

monstraciebis organizeba ek-

lesiis dasacavad da winaaRm-

degobasac ki uweven xelisu-

falT, romelTac surT saek-

lesio faseulobebis wamoRe-

ba imisTvis, raTa viyidoT pu-

ri damSeulebisTvis, Cven un-

da gamoviyenoT es garemoeba

da yvela, vinc winaaRmdegobas

gviwevs, cixeSi CavsvaT. mo-

vaxdinoT saCvenebeli proce-

sebis organizeba da a.S. maT

ricxvSi saWiroa patriarqic

gadavceT sasamarTlos. gaJ-

liton, rac SeiZleba meti,

rac SeiZleba, ufro swra-

fad.“ beladi aRniSnul we-

rilSi citirebs makiavelis

sityvebs da aSkarad cdi-

lobs, mibaZos... rogorc we-

rilidan Cans, lenini sakuTar

xalxs rogorc damorCile-

buls, ruseTs rogorc dapy-

robil qveyanas, ise aRiqvamda.

ai, cinizmi da misi damokide-

buleba ruseTisadmi,amaod ar

ambobda igi gulidan amosul

sityvebs: `mimifurTxebia ru-

seTisTvis! me msoflio revo-

lucia unda gadavarCino“-oo.

cnobili faqtia, rom lenins

materialurad uzrunvelyof-

dnen germaniis genStabidan.

trocki ki aSS-SSi gemze daa-

kaves da Semdeg „samuSaod“

ruseTSi didi finansebiT ga-

mouSves. aSS-ii materialurad

leninsac exmareboda. nawi-

lobriv es valebi dafaruli

iqna xelisuflebaSi mosvlis

Semdgom.lenini Tvlida,rom

yvela saSualeba unda gamoe-

yenebia proletariatis diq-

taturis dasamyareblad.

leninis sadamsjelo sis-

temis saTaveSi, daxvretebiT,

mZevlebiT, qonebrivi ZarcviT,

binebidan gamosaxlebiT idga

kontrrevoluciasTan brZo-

lis vCk-ss (sagangebo komisi-

is) Tavmjdomare feliqs ed-

mundis Ze ZerJinski. igi iyo

poloneli socialisti. Sem-

deg gadavida rkpb-iis Tavmj-

domared. leninis erT-eerTi

uaxloesi megobari da Tana-

mebrZolic gaxldaT... andrei

kokoSini ironiiT aRniSnavs,

rom dasavleli biografebi

da istorikosebi ZerJinks

specsamsaxuris damaarseblad,

profesional revolucione-

rad, keTilSobil raindad

moixsenieben. sinamdvileSi

feliqsi tragikuli pirovneba

iyo. is mravalSvilian, sakma-

od SeZlebul ojaxSi daiba-

da. dedamisi morwmune kaTo-

like iyo da yvelanairad cdi-

lobda, Svilebs umamoba ar

egrZnoT. Tumca feliqsi uc-

nauri da jiuti bavSvic yo-

fila. mas sanadiro TofiT da

Semoakvda. ojaxma gadawyvita,

es faqti daemalaT. feliqsi

cdilobda, RmerTis winaSe

rogorme gamoesyida es dana-

Sauli, romelmac mosveneba

daukarga, monasterSic wavi-

da, aRsarebac Caabara, magram

Sveba ver igrZno. 16 wlis

asakSi gadawyvita, mRvdeli

gamxdariyo, razec moZRvari

kategoriulad ar daeTanxma

ficxi xasiaTis da sxva saxa-

siaTo Strixebis gamo. feliq-

si Tvlida, rom eklesiis ka-

rebi miuxures. skolidanac

garicxes da maSin gamoCnda

revoluciuri moZraobac, mar-

qsis ideebi, romelic momen-

talurad gaiTavisa da aitaca.

Semdeg iyo araerTxel Rala-

ti revolcioneri megobrebis-

gan da 20 wlis asakSi dapa-

timrebac. istorikosebi ambo-

ben _ dapatimrebuli feliqsi

ver gatexes, sastikad gaus-

wordnen fizikurad Tumca

Rirebuli informacia misgan

ver miiRes. Semdeg iyo gada-

saxlebebi, cixe, ramodenime

„lagerni“ siyvaruli isev re-

volcioneri qalbatonebis.

momavali meuRlec gadasaxle-

baSi gaicno da fexmZime daa-

patimres... bolos 17 wlis

revoluciam isev Tavisufle-

bis aRkveTis adgilze miusw-

ro da sanatreli sityva _

`Tavisufali xar“, revolu-

cionerma amxanagma axara. Sem-

deg iwyeba saxelmwifos Sene-

ba. teroristobidan Cekisto-

bamde mxolod erTi nabijia.

mTavari ki is aris, pirvels

romels gadadgam. faqtobri-

vad, idea, Seqmniliyo kontr-

revolucionerebis winaaRmdeg

spec.ganyofileba, rogorc

sarwmuno wyaroebidan xdeba

cnobili, leninisTvis Zer-

Jinsks miuwodebia, saintere-

soa da pirveli xelmZRvane-

lic gamxdara. Tavic ar dau-

zogavs, dakaveba, dakiTxva,

gadmobireba, cema, daxvreta,

yvelaferSi piradad iRebda

monawileobas. xruSovis dro-

indeli biografebi feliqsze

werdnen, rom arasdros isve-

nebda, 18 saaTi muSaobda, Zve-

li tansacmliT dadioda da

Wamac ar axsovdao _ sinamd-

vileSi sam agaraks, sam

sacxovrebel saxls flobda

da Svebulebas yirimSi, afxa-

zeTSi, odesaSi atarebda. ar-

qivSi inaxeba dieta, romelic

eqimma dauniSna avadmyofobis

gamo, dokumenti 1922 wliT

TariRdeba, roca xalxi uki-

duresad gaWirvebulia da pu-

ris lukma enatreba. feliqss

mxolod TeTr xorcs, sauke-

Teso bostneuls, Tevzs sTa-

vazoben ,mTeli kviris meniu-

Si sauzmidan vaxSmamdea gawe-

rili... 1921 wels patriarqma

tixonma, morwmuneebi akur-

Txa, damSeulTa dasaxmareb-

lad SeegrovebinaT Zvirfasi

nivTebi, romelTac saeklesio

daniSnuleba ar gaaCndaT. am

mowodebis pasuxad sabWoTa

xelisuflebam 1922 wels Te-

bervalSi daadgina taZrebidan

yovelgvari saeklesio faseu-

loba gaetanaT. netarma ti-

xonma xma aimaRla amgvari Za-

ladobis winaaRmdeg. rac sa-

botaJad Sefasda da mwyemsm-

Tavari daapatimres. erTi

wlis Semdeg gaaTavisufles,

Tumca or weliwadSi mou-

lodnelad, gaurkvevel viTa-

rebaSi gardaicvala. patriar-

qma tixonma jer kidev 1918

wels gaugzavna werili sa-

xalxo komisariats: `sanam xe-

lisuflebas xelSi Caigdeb-

diT, xalxs rasac hpirdebo-

diT gaixseneT, pirdebodiT

purs da mieciT qva, Tevzis

magivrad ki gveli“-oo. calke

Temaa ZerJinskis moadgileebi

da maTi biografiebi. „samTav-

robo karuseli“ im droSic

aprobirebuli yofila, pirve-

li Cekisti ekonomikur gund-

sac xelmZRvanelobda, gund-

Si ki ebraeli menSevikebis

simravlis gamo gamoTqmul

ukmayofilebas pasuxobda:

isini „profesionalebi arian“

oTxi klasis ganaTlebiT. ro-

gorc Cans, kohabitaciis

moTxovna maSinac modioda da-

savleTidan. ganaTlebas ki ra

mniSvneloba hqonda, mTavari

iyo, erTguli da upirobod

davalebis Semsrulebeli, da-

kompleqsebuli garewari yo-

filiyo... meeqvse ganyofile-

bas xelmZRvanelobda evgeni

tuCkovi. is sofel teliako-

vaSi daibada da oblobaSi ga-

zarda ufrosma dam.masac ek-

lesiasTan arsebuli 4-wwliani

skola hqonda gavlili. misi

damsaxurebiT uamravi sasuli-

ero piri daixvrita, gaiZarc-

va da ganadgurda eklesia-mmo-

nastrebi. igi piradad xelm-

ZRvanelobda sasuliero pire-

bis provocirebas. aRsaniSna-

via is faqti, rom tuCkovi

fsevdonimiT `teliakova“

presaSi aqveynebda marTlmadi-

deblobis da eklesiis damak-

ninebel statiebs. aSS-ss Jur-

nalists ki siamovnebiT ga-

uZRva da daaTvalierebina,

fotoc gadaaRebina dangreu-

li eklesiis win. man gauvrce-

la dezinformacia patriarqs.

imedgacruebuli darCa, rode-

sac 1943 wels stalini sam

patriarqTan erTad naxa, rad-

gan ver warmoedgina beladis

Tbili damokidebuleba sasu-

liero pirebis mimarT. sikv-

dilis win ki, 1957 wels,

codvebiT damZimebulma, tki-

vilebiT gawamebulma, patri-

arqTan Sexvedra moiTxova da

yvela sibinZure mouyva, rac

maT winaaRmdeg hqonda Cadeni-

li. sainteresoa, dRes pat-

riarqis da marTlmadideblo-

bis mlanZRavebi Tu moindome-

ben, moinanion sikvdilis win.

feliqsis axlo megobari da

Tanamoazre iyo aleqsandre

beloborodovi, kaci, romel-

mac leninis brZanebiT roma-

novebi daxoca. isic oTxi

klasis ganaTlebiT, Tumca ci-

xis akademia hqonda friadze

gavlili da Tavbrudamxvevi

karieriT. igi Sss ministric

iyo da, rasakvirvelia, ekle-

sia monastrebis gamnadgurebe-

lic. igi 1937 wels stali-

nis brZanebiT, rogorc troc-

kisti daxvrites. aseve fe-

liqsis Tanamoazreebic ver

gadaurCnen stalinis did

`wmendas“. vfiqrob, damsaxu-

rebulad. RmerTo, rogor

hgavs es gasuli saukunis is-

toria saqarTveloSi 10 wlis

winaT ganviTarebul istori-

as, revoluciis dafinansebi-

dan dawyebuli, ideologiiT

damTavrebuli. mxolod sta-

linis saxiT moTamaSis gamo-

Cena ver gaTvales, maSindel

dasavleTSi da gegmebic CaeSa-

laT, kosmossac moswons da-

savleTTan TamaSi da siurp-

rizebi, davelodoT kulisebi-

dan axali stalinis gamosv-

las. `Zlevai sakvirveli“

marTlmadidebel samyaros!

qeTevan zarnaZe599 52 60 30

`rkinis~ feliqsi

saerTo gazeTi#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w. 17

amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi da mokavSireebi api-

reben winaaRmdegoba gauwion

ruseTisa da misi sahaero Za-

lebis mier 30 seqtembers

siriaSi dawyebul operaci-

ebs teroristuli dajgufe-

bis _ ìslamuri saxelmwi-

fos~ winaaRmdeg. amgvarad

problemis mogvarebis ofi-

cialuri mizezi siriis pre-

zident baSar asadis ofici-

aluri gancxadebaa, romli-

Tac man vladimir putins

samxedro daxmareba sTxova

(siria ukve 40-welze metia

ruseTis mokavSirea. baSaris

mamam, hafez asadma, aseve

sTxova sabWoTa kavSirs sam-

xedro daxmareba da sabWoTa

sahaero-sazRvao Zalebs ga-

dasca baza tartusSi, xmel-

TaSua zRvis sanapiroze 1971

wels, roca baSari 6 wlisa

iyo). ruseTis mfrinavebma

ukve gaanadgures `boevikTa~

50-ze meti strategiuli

obieqti da mniSvnelovani

ziani miayenes maTs materia-

lur-teqnikur bazas.

vidre samxedro moqmede-

bas daiwyebdnen, ruseTisa da

amerikis samxedroebma video-

konferencia gamarTes, raTa

Tavidan aicilon siriis sa-

haero sivrceSi SesaZlo Se-

takebebi.

prezidenti obama siriaSi

ruseTis politikas `katast-

rofis recepts~ uwodebs.

`Cven ver viTanamSromlebT

ruseTis samxedro kampaniaSi:

`CvenTvis miuRebelia mosko-

vis Teoria, romlis Tanaxma-

dac teroristia yvela, vinc

asadis winaaRmdegia. putini,

savaraudod, ar asxvavebs eg-

reT wodebul zomier opozi-

ciasa da islamistebs da isi-

ni teroristebad miiCnia. ru-

seTis aviadartymebma SesaZ-

loa gaaZlieros ìslamuri

saxelmwifo~. garedan da sam-

xedro CareviT es problema

ver mogvardeba. unda SevZ-

loT da xeli SevuwyoT imas,

rom qveynis SigniT arsebul-

ma Zalebma moaxerxon Tanaar-

seboba. amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebis CareviT problema

ver mogvardeba. amas gvkarna-

xobs bolo 10, 12, 13 wlis

gamocdileba. rom ara ruse-

Tisa da iranis mxardaWera,

baSar asadi xelisuflebas

ver SeinarCunebda~.

`ruseTis moqmedebam si-

riaSi omis eskalacia gamo-

iwvia. amerika yvelafers gaa-

keTebs imisTvis, raTa aRkve-

Tos ruseTis samxedro-sahae-

ro Zalebis operaciebi. imav-

droulad, mzad varT am sa-

kiTxSi ruseTTan Ria TanamS-

romlobisTvis~, _ aseTi gan-

cxadeba gaakeTa pentagonis

xelmZRvanelma eSton kar-

terma orSabaTs, moskovis

mxridan samxedro Zalis ga-

moyenebis meeqvse dRes.

moskovis gadawyvetile-

bas, samxedro ZaliT moagva-

ros siriis problema, Tanac

amerikasTan TanamSromlobis

gareSe, politologebi afa-

seben ruseTis xelisufle-

bisgan arakompetenturobis

gamovlenad da imis aSkara

mcdelobad, msoflios daa-

naxvon amerikis politikuri

uZlureba.

amerikis administraciaSi

prezident jimi karteris

TanaSemwe erovnuli usafr-

Txoebis sakiTxebSi zbignev

bJezinski sTavazobs amerikis

SeerTebul Statebs aRkve-

Tos ruseTis `provokaciebi~

siriaSi. imavdroulad, fiq-

robs, rom ruseTsa da CineT-

Tan TanamSromlobasac SeuZ-

lia sargeblis motana:

`viciT, Tu rogor daiwyo

pirveli msoflio omi. Zala-

dobis calkeulma SemTxve-

vebma Seuqcevadi gaxada sam-

xedro operaciebi, romleb-

sac aklda saerTo strategi-

uli xelmZRvaneloba. garda

amisa, saerTo amocanebic ar

iyo mkafiod gamokveTili...

jer kidev SeiZleba, ar gavi-

meoroT da Tavidan avici-

loT mtkivneuli movlenebi,

amjerad axlo aRmosavleTSi,

romlis danawevrebis safr-

Txe arsebobs, gansa-

kuTrebiT ki siriaSi.

axla sasworze

devs regionis momava-

lica da axlo aRmo-

savleTis qveynebis

mxridan amerikisadmi

ndobis sakiTxic. Tu

amerikas surs daicvas

Tavisi regionuli in-

teresebi, realistu-

ri nabiji erTader-

Tia: ruseTs unda

mosTxovos Sewyvitos

samxedro moqmedebebi,

romlebic amerikul

aqtivebs exeba da maT-

ze uari Tqvas moma-

valSic. ruseTs aqvs

ufleba, mxari dauWiros

asads, magram Tuki msgavsi

ram ganmeordeba, mas aSS-is

SurisZieba unda mohyves... sa-

ukeTeso gzaa daarwmunon

ruseTi, iTanamSromlos ame-

rikasTan da erToblivad mo-

agvaron regionuli proble-

ma, romelic romelime erTi

saxelmwifos in-

teresebs gascda~.

moskovisa da

vaSingtonis po-

ziciebis Sejere-

ba CineTTan `kon-

struqciuli Ta-

namSromlobis~

imeds gaaCens, ro-

melic axloaRmo-

savluri konf-

liqtis lokali-

zaciiTa da Tavi-

si gavlenis gazr-

diT erTdrou-

lad aris dainte-

resebuli _ axlo

aRmosavleTis regi-

onSi qaosi SesaZloa

gavrceldes Crdilo-

aRmosavleTis mimar-

TulebiT, daazara-

los ruseTi da mas-

Tan erTad CineTic.

movlenebis aseTi

scenariT ganviTareba

zians miayenebs ameri-

kas, mis megobrebs,

rom araferi vTqvaT

regionul stabilu-

robaze. swored ami-

tom strategiuli

gambedaobis gamoCenaa saWiro.

ruseTis sahaero darty-

mebis Sedegad samoqalaqo pi-

rebic daiRupnen, miuxedavad

amisa, putini Tavisi miznis-

ken miiwevs, obamas politi-

kas bevri politikosi da po-

litologi maRali moralu-

ri principebis erTgulebad

da keTilgonierebad afaseben,

magram efeqtiani ar aris.

amerikam mware gakveTili iw-

vnia eraySi aTwliani omiT,

amitomac siriis teritoria-

ze jarebis gadasxmas Tavs

aridebs. arada, putinis da-

Jinebuloba da obamas merye-

oba SesaZloa siriaSi xangr-

Zlivi omis saTave gaxdes.

dResdReobiT ki, daRupu-

lia 250 aTasi sirieli, oTx

milionze metma sakuTari

saxlebi miatova da devni-

lad iqca. viTarebas kidev

ufro arTulebs arastabi-

luroba mezobeli erayisa,

saidanac siriaSi agresiulma

ideologiam da samxedro

TvalsazrisiT mZlavrma daj-

gufebam èrayisa da levanTis

islamurma saxelmwifom~ Se-

aRwia. axla iseTi viTarebaa

Seqmnili, roca samTavrobo

Zalebi da zomieri opozicia

omma metismetad daasusta,

xolo ìslamuri saxelmwi-

fo~ afarToebs Tavis teri-

torias: CrdiloeTiT qur-

Tebs eomeba TurqeTis sazRv-

ris siaxloves, samxreTiT

ukve miadga damaskos. dedaqa-

laqis garda, asadis xeli-

suflebisTvis kritikul

safrTxes warmoadgens sam-

xedro moqmedebebis gavrce-

leba xmelTaSua zRvis sana-

piroze, mis sakvanZo port

laTakiasTan. swored mis da-

sacavad irjebian ruseTis

aviacia da samxedro kontin-

genti.

politologTa wreSi ar-

sebobs mosazreba, rom mimdi-

nareobs ruseTis armiis ga-

daiaraRebis axali etapi, iq-

mneba axali sabrZolo teqni-

ka da axali sistemebi, rada-

rebi, kontrolis gaumjobe-

sebuli saxeobebi. ruseTi

bevr swavlebebs atarebs,

magram siriis poligoni _

bombdamSenebisa da sxva Tao-

bis mowyobilobebis gamosac-

delad da gamosayeneblad,

gansakuTrebulia.

rogori procesebis map-

rovocirebeli SeiZleba aR-

moCndes siriaSi axla mimdi-

nare movlenebi saerTaSori-

so politikaSi? rogor na-

wildeba ZalTa balansi wam-

yvan saxelmwifoebs Soris?

xom ar gadainacvlebs axlo-

aRmosavluri krizisi aziis-

ken? ra gavlenas moaxdens

putinis `saSinao reitingze~

axlandeli sagareo-politi-

kuri moqmedebebi? rogor

aisaxeba es ruseTis mezobe-

li saxelmwifoebis saSinao

politikaze?..

axlo aRmosavleTi kvla-

vac dasavleTisa da aRmosav-

leTis gzagasayari da sa-

jildao moedania.

mimoxilva moamzada

giorgi WavWavaZem.

mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT

`katastrofis recepti~ ruseTisgan

vaSingtoni da moskovi erToblivad

unda moqmedebdnen siriaSi

da ara erTmaneTis winaaRmdeg

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19saerTo gazeTi#230 (342), 7.X, 2015 w.

qalbatoni irma sixaru-

liZe samedicino dargis mu-

Sakia, magram avadmyofebs

saukuneebiT gamocdili

sagvareulo wamal-malamo-

Ti mkurnalobs. igi warma-

tebiT kurnavs: osteoqond-

rozs, poliarTrits, mwvave

radikulits, kisris, mxris

da menj-barZayis muxl-sax-

srebis arTrits; qveda ki-

durebis sisxlZarRvTa Seviwroebas, e.w. marile-

bis dagrovebas quslisa da terfis areSi, dis-

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Tu cofianma cxovelma dakbina

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ans cofiani cxovelis dakbenis

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aris daavadebuli, araadekvaturi

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inarCunebs, azrovnebas ar

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bis 70 procenti mainc rom aic-

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_ pirvel rigSi, aseT SemTx-

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li unda daibanos sarecxis sap-

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ukuneebSi sofel Se-

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sofelSi mcxovrebi erT-er-

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kunidan ukve monastris ezo-

Sia.

monastris ezoSia berTa

saZvalec. yvelas ar SeuZlia

ixilos adamianis Tavis qa-

lebiTa da ZvlebiT savse se-

naki (saZvale). marTlac

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akuratulad dawyobili ada-

mianis kidurebiT savse oTa-

xi... rogorc ber-

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es adgili miwiT yo-

fila amovsebuli da

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mogvianebiT. bunebri-

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jvris formis nakeri

aqvT da feric gans-

xvavebuli aqvT. ro-

gorc davTvaleT, iq-

neboda 5-7 aseTi Ta-

vis qala, Tumca es

mxolod nawilia

Zvlebisa, radgan ko-

munistebis periodSi

Zvlebis nawili gatanilia,

mdinares gaatanes...

monasterSia ucnobi beris

uxrwneli sxeuli, romelic

IX-X saukuniT TariRdeba. is

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uflisgan dawyevlil adami-

ans miwa ar Rebulobs. zarz-

maSi dasvenebuli uxrwneli

sxeuli dadasturebulad be-

risaa...

Tavdapirvelad is muzeum-

Si yofila dabrZanebuli,

Semdeg ki mama giorgis inici-

ativiT uwmindesTan CaubrZa-

nebiaT. uwmindesis locva-

kurTxeva yofila rom sxeu-

li ar daekrZalaT, amgvarad

arsebulisTvis miegoT pati-

vi, amitom 2000 wlidan

zarzmis monasterSia dabrZa-

nebuli...

im senakis maRla, sadac

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mis taZaria romlis kedel-

Sic gvirabi gadis da mdina-

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mdinarebam gamoangria da Ses-

vla ver xerxdeba... (gana, ra

Tanxaa misi gawmenda-restav-

raciisTvis saWiro?)

zarzmis monastris sam-

reklo erT-erTi udidesia

saqarTveloSi da am tipis

qarTul nagebobaTa saukeTe-

so nimuSia.

aRsaniSnavia, rom 2008

wels daiwyo zarzmis feris-

cvalebis xatis aslis Seqmna

da xatis asli 2009 wlis

10 oqtombers zarzmis monas-

terSi dabrZanda...

zarzmis feriscvalebis

RvTismSoblis eklesiaSi iyo

dabrZanebuli RvTismSoblis

Zvirfasi xati, romelic

axalcixidan xarze daukravT

da iq unda davrZanebuliyo,

sadac xari gaCerdeboda. ai,

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