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Game of Sales Or how to deal with estimates and not get pissed off in the process Slava Merezhko CTO, Propeople Ukraine

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Game of Sales session at DrupalCamp Kyiv 2013, session about the world between Sales and Production, estimates in software development and importance of good communication and what we can do better.

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Game of Sales

Or how to deal with estimates and not get pissed off in the

processSlava MerezhkoCTO, Propeople Ukraine

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Introduction

• Name: Slava• Company: Propeople• Background: Developer and PM in the

past; CTO and smartass right now; Sales and double smartass in future.

• What I’m doing: Technical presale, Business processes, Development workflow, Make people want more & better.

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Plan

1. Why you can’t get rid of estimates.2. Typical problems in communication between Sales

and Production3. How Production can do it’s job better.4. How to make precise estimate without actually

having one.5. How Sales can do it’s job better, for God’s sake.6. What does all of this this has to do with Game of

Thrones?7. Conclusions we can make.8. Your questions, my answers.9. Bonus part. Some of the links I recommend to read.

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Why you can’t get rid of estimates

• Each project has life cycle.• It starts with the sale.• Estimate is the part of the sale.• Proper estimations helps you to make

yourself comfortable during the process.

• So what’s the problem?

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What’s the problem with estimates?

• Sales can’t say no.• Developers can’t say no.• Everyone can’t say no to stupid

requests.• Not enough time for proper

estimation.• Not enough info for the same thing.• Not enough communication between

Developers and Sales.

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I’m developer, omg, what to do?

• Learn to say No to bullshit.• You have technical knowledge, use it.• You do estimate for yourself, not for

sales.• Give alternative options.• Share the info!

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How to make precise estimate without actually having one

• Give ranged estimate (Min – Max).• Make assumptions.• Write down uncertainty factors.• Make estimate process iterative.

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Why should I do that?

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Because

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With estimate

Without estimate

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How to make precise estimate without actually having one

• Give range estimate (Min – Max).• Make assumptions.• Write down uncertainty factors.• Make estimate process iterative.

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Holy cow! I’m Sales, what to do?

• Learn to say No to bullshit.• Every time you ask Devs to make

estimate. lower, God kills a kitten.• Fact of the sale isn’t enough

anymore.• Talk to developers, give them more

quality information. Use their knowledge for benefits.

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What does this have to do with Game of Thrones?

• “Brace yourself, estimate is coming.”• “When you play a game of sales you

estimate or you die.”• “Little birdies told me.”• “Hodor Hodor Hodor HODOR!”

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Conclusion

• Good estimate is a benefit for everyone.

• Information is money.• Good communication – that what is

needed for both good estimations and information flow.

• Sales and Devs are in the same boat.• If they think otherwise –they’d better

stop.

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Questions?

[email protected] slavka.merezhko

Slava MerezhkoCTO, Propeople Ukraine

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Bonus articles• The Art of Estimation - http://www.lullabot.com/blog/art-estimation • Lullabot’s Hierarchy of Qualification -

http://www.lullabot.com/blog/articles/lullabots-hierarchy-qualification • Why developers should start choosing conscience over profit http

://venturebeat.com/2013/02/18/developers-choosing-conscience-over-profit/

• RFP Advice From The Front Lines http://cognition.happycog.com/article/rfp-advice-from-the-front-lines

• Stop Writing Project Proposals http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/02/17/stop-writing-project-proposals/

• Искусство переговоров — это просто бизнес, ничего личного http://habrahabr.ru/post/141702/

• Про Элопа, Нокию и горящую платформу http://habrahabr.ru/post/171325/

• 4 ошибки, которые я допустил как технический директор http://habrahabr.ru/post/177063/