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1 Rupy Sandhu From: David Mudie <[email protected]> Sent: 15 May 2017 17:16 To: Rob Thain Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine Robert The Lochaline site was about to be mothballed by Tarmac until a resurgence in interest by Pilkington who subsequently bought it. This sand is of extremely high quality and the company is only looking to use it in certain high end applications. The site therefore continues to be worked. We had hoped to have received a new application by now – since as you’ll have seen that permission lapses in mid 2018! As the PoAN has no expiry date it will continue to exist on our records – and would anticipate receiving an application before 2018. We were informed that this would be likely some 18 months ago now. If I can be of any further assistance please let me know. David David Mudie Team Leader Development Management Development and Infrastructure Service, The Highland Council, Kintail House, Beechwood Business Park, Inverness, IV2 3BW (01463) 255205 This advice is given without prejudice to the future consideration of and decision on any application received by The Highland Council. Thathar a’ toirt seachad na comhairle seo gun chlaonbhreith do bheachdachadh air agus codhùnadh a thaobh tagradh sam bith a tha Comhairle na Gàidhealtachd a’ faighinn san àm ri teachd Please take our customer survey Follow up documentation for existing planning applications Follow up documentation should no longer be submitted directly to Planning Officers or to Area Planning Offices. If you would like to submit revised plans or any other follow up/additional documentation in relation to an existing application, please do so by using the Post Submission Additional Document online form available on the ePlanning.scot Portal. Further guidance on how to do this can be found here on our Planning Web Pages. Please remember to quote the correct application reference number on the online form before submitting. Thank you for your cooperation. Register at http://consult.highland.gov.uk to view, comment and be kept up to date on any future Development Plan documents in Highland. From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 May 2017 16:44 To: David Mudie Subject: Loch Aline Sand Mine

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From: David Mudie <[email protected]>Sent: 15 May 2017 17:16To: Rob ThainSubject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine

Robert  The Lochaline site was about to be mothballed by Tarmac until a resurgence in interest by Pilkington who subsequently bought it.  This sand is of extremely high quality and the company is only looking to use it in certain high end applications.  The site therefore continues to be worked.  We had hoped to have received a new application by now – since as you’ll have seen that permission lapses in mid 2018!  As the PoAN has no expiry date it will continue to exist on our records – and would anticipate receiving an application before 2018. We were informed that this would be likely some 18 months ago now.    If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.  David  David Mudie Team Leader ‐ Development Management Development and Infrastructure Service, The Highland Council, Kintail House, Beechwood Business Park, Inverness, IV2 3BW (01463) 255205  This advice is given without prejudice to the future consideration of and decision on any application received by The Highland Council.  Thathar a’ toirt seachad na comhairle seo gun chlaon‐bhreith do bheachdachadh air agus co‐dhùnadh a thaobh tagradh sam bith a tha Comhairle na Gàidhealtachd a’ faighinn san àm ri teachd  Please take our customer survey  

 

  

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From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 May 2017 16:44 To: David Mudie Subject: Loch Aline Sand Mine  

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Dear Mr Mudie  I note from your report (Para. 1.3) to The Highland Council South Planning Applications Committee on 27 September 2016 that the Tarmac Ltd Proposal of Application Notice (PAN) (Ref: 11/03793/PAN), which proposed a change of planning condition to extend expiry date from 2018 to 2036, was outstanding and that as such an application was yet to be submitted – despite it apparently being referenced from 2011.  Please could you confirm that this is still correct?  In addition, if the applicant has however subsequently provided an expected submission date I would be grateful if you could confirm this.  We note that an EIA Screening Opinion (Ref: 15/00081/SCRE) was provided on 16 January 2015.   The reason for our interest in this is that our National Park, the South Downs, is coming under development pressure for mineral extraction of silica sand resources and as such we are seeking to hold the most up to date information from elsewhere in the UK on this mineral resource. I am more than happy to field any questions or query’s you may have.   Kind regards  Robert    Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078  

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From: Rob Thain <[email protected]>Sent: 30 May 2017 15:40To: 'Roy Romans'; '[email protected]'; 'WILLIAMS, Emma (Principal

Planning Officer)'; 'Katelyn Symington EI'; 'Rob Smith'; 'Trevor G Badley'; '[email protected]'; 'Ian Blake'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'

Cc: Alma HowellSubject: RE: Silica Sand Meeting - Revised Details Attachments: Industrial Mineral Supply UK June 2017.xlsx; Notes of meeting of MPA's - Silica

Sand London Updated 30 05 2017.docx; Draft Statement of Common Ground on the UK National Silica Sand Supply 30052017.docx

Follow Up Flag: Follow upFlag Status: Flagged

Dear Colleagues  Further to our recent meeting please find attached a revised Statement of Common Ground and supporting Table of Industrial Mineral Resources.  Please also find attached updated Minutes – thank you Marianne and Richard.   Please could you provide updated details for the table and any comments on the SOCG and Minutes by Tuesday 20 June. I will be away in the interim.  As an aside you may be interested to know that the Joint Draft Minerals Plan the South Downs and West Sussex CC has undertaken was submitted to the Secretary of State on Friday (hence the slight delay in forwarding these details) – an autumn EiP awaits…  Kind regards  Robert    Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078   

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From: Alan Thompson <[email protected]>Sent: 13 September 2017 14:57To: 'Rizza Massimo'Cc: Rob ThainSubject: RE: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline - Urgent

Dear Massimo,  You may recall that we exchanged a few emails last year regarding silica sand production from Lochaline (copied below for ease of reference). You said at the time that you were in the process of renewing your planning permission. Please could you advise where you have got to with this? The issue has now become rather critical for a Local Plan Examination in the South Downs National Park, and it would be most helpful if you could let me have your response by the end of this week.  It would also be extremely helpful if you could let me have your best estimates of any or all of the following: 

a) your current permitted reserves (i.e. the tonnage of reserves which you currently have planning permission to extract); 

b) any additional reserves of similar sand for which you are in the process of applying for planning permission; 

c) any further reserves (i.e. proven, workable deposits of similar sand) for which planning permission is likely to be applied for in future years; and 

d) any further resources (not yet investigated in detail but thought likely to be comparable to the deposits currently being worked) 

 I look forward to hearing from you.  Kind regards,  Alan   

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

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From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 29 July 2016 10:38 To: 'Rizza Massimo'  Cc: [email protected][email protected] Subject: RE: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline  Dear Massimo,  Many thanks for this additional information  Kind regards,  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

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From: Rizza Massimo [mailto:mrizza@min‐ind.it]  Sent: 29 July 2016 09:48 To: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com Cc: [email protected][email protected] Subject: R: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline  Dear Alan,  let’s say that we export around 80% of our total production in England and the remaining 20% remains in Scotland (a very short quantity goes to Sweden).  Our permission is under renewing in these weeks for the standard period of 5 years (we renew it every 5 years). About reserves, we already inspected a wide underground area and estimated an additional 10 years quantity of sand; furthermore there are several areas which weren’t sampled so this quantity can be double or triple, due to the results of future inspection.  Best regards  Massimo Rizza Sales Manager Mobile: +39 366 6361871 ‐ Email: mrizza@min‐ind.it  

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Da: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Inviato: giovedì 28 luglio 2016 14:34 A: Rizza Massimo Cc: [email protected][email protected] Oggetto: RE: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline  Dear Massimo,  Thank you very much for your extremely helpful email. Could you let me know roughly what proportion of your total output is exported to England?  It would also be helpful to know either the tonnage of reserves remaining with planning permission, or at least the current date of expiry of that permission; and also whether or not there are substantial additional, workable resources beyond those which currently have the benefit of planning permission.  Kindest regards,  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

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Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Rizza Massimo [mailto:mrizza@min‐ind.it]  Sent: 28 July 2016 13:23 To: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com Cc: [email protected][email protected] Subject: R: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline  Dear Mr. Thompson, my name is Massimo Rizza and I am a sales manager of Minerali Industriali Srl – Italy.  In United Kingdom Minerali Industriali has set up a joint venture with NSG (Pilkington Glass) to extract high purity low iron silica sand from the Lochaline Mine in western Scotland. The company is called Lochaline Quartz Sand (LQS). LQS produce the purest silica sand in the UK and it is particularly known for its white colour.   The underground mine, originally managed by Tarmac and closed when they left, was re‐opened in September 2012 and continuously refurbished and developed in the last four years:  

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 At the moment, the total capacity of the mine exceeds 100.000 tonnes/year. I send you, attached herewith, the technical datasheets of the two type of sand we manufacture in Lochaline: LQS 85 and LQS 500. LQS 85 is very low in iron (around 85ppm), which makes it extremely good for the production of high purity and superwhite glass. LQS 500 has a higher content of iron oxide (around 500 ppm) and is used in the production of standard white glass all other applications where high grade of whiteness is required.   Our customers are mainly glass manufacturers but we also supply companies which work in the ceramic and building markets.  Being Lochaline not well connected with the rest of UK in terms of roads, we move the sand by vessels (max 3.000 tonnes) using our local loading structure.  

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  The sands is shipped directly to our customer’s port (for example to Clyde Port, for the supplying of Owens Illinois Alloa, in Scotland) or to our warehouse in Runcorn, from where we supply all our Northern English customers, by tipper trucks. 

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  I remain at your disposal for any additional information you may need.  Best regards  Massimo Rizza Sales Manager Mobile: +39 366 6361871 ‐ Email: mrizza@min‐ind.it  

  

Minerali Industriali S.r.l. Piazza Martiri della Libertà n.4, 28100 NOVARA (NO) ‐ ITALY Phone: +39 0321 377 600 – Fax: +39 0321 391 874 engineering.mineraliindustriali.it 

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Da: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Inviato: martedì 26 luglio 2016 14:59 A: Zurolo Diego Cc: 'Natalie Chillcott'; 'Ian Blake' Oggetto: Silica Sand supplies from Lochaline  Dear Mr. Zurolo,  I am writing on behalf of West Sussex County Council and the South Downs National Park Authority to enquire about silica sand supplies from your operation at Lochaline. This is in connection with some consultancy work which I am currently undertaking on their behalf.  The background to this enquiry is that silica sand resources have recently been identified within the South Downs National Park and that the two mineral planning authorities are preparing a strategy with regard to the potential future supply of silica sand from this area. Some of those deposits are claimed, by a prospective developer, to be suitable for use as a raw material for clear glass manufacturing – for example by producers in the north of England. Given that the resources lie within a National Park, the Authorities need to establish whether or not there are adequate alternative sources of supply for those industries from less‐constrained resource areas elsewhere in the UK.  Through consultation on their draft strategy the Authorities have received comments that high purity silica sand, suitable for glass manufacturing, is supplied to one or more of those areas from Scotland.   Given that your material is clearly of high quality and is used for glass manufacturing, the Authorities are keen to learn whether or not any of it either has been, or could potentially be, supplied for such use in Northern England. If it has, it would be helpful to know whether this has been by road haulage and/or coastal shipping, and to which particular locations.  I would be grateful for any information which you can provide. The timescale for my investigation is very limited, so I’d be particularly grateful if you could reply within the next few days.  I look forward to hearing from you.  Kind regards,  Alan   

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

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Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

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From: Rob Thain <[email protected]>Sent: 11 May 2017 12:23To: '[email protected]'Subject: 00/00074/WFULL - Documents to be Made Publicly Available

Importance: High

Good afternoon  Further to my conversation with Evelyn a moment ago please could the supporting documents for the following application be made publicly available on your website for 4 weeks‐  Kind regards  Robert    

00/00074/WFULL | Partially retrospective application for the extraction of sand and associated minerals with ancillary mining development | Devilla Forest Quarry Bogside Alloa Clackmannanshire FK10 3QD

Reference 00/00074/WFULL

Alternative Reference

Application Received Thu 16 Dec 1999

Application Validated Wed 05 Jan 2000

Address Devilla Forest Quarry Bogside Alloa Clackmannanshire FK10 3QD

Proposal Partially retrospective application for the extraction of sand and associated minerals with ancillary mining development

Status Decided

Decision Application Permitted with Conditions

Decision Issued Date Wed 04 Dec 2002

Appeal Decision

There are 0 documents associated with this application.

There are 0 cases associated with this application.

There is 1 property associated with this application

    Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst

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West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078  

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From: Alan Thompson <[email protected]>Sent: 13 September 2017 14:33To: Rob ThainSubject: FW: Urgent minerals planning enquiry

This was my attempt to contact Highland Council  

Dr. Alan Thompson,   C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 22 July 2016 11:37 To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Cc: 'Ian Blake' <[email protected]>; 'Natalie Chillcott' <[email protected]> Subject: Urgent minerals planning enquiry  Dear sir/madam,  I am acting as a consultant for the South Downs National Park Authority and West Sussex County Council and have been asked by them to get in touch with Planning Departments in Scotland which have dealings with Silica Sand production.   This is a request under the ‘Duty to Cooperate’ requirements of the planning system in England, and is to enable the two authorities to finalise their own strategy for silica sand provision.  That, in turn, requires checks to be made with other authorities which have silica sand resources.  Having completed those checks with authorities in England, and having prepared a draft strategy, one consultee has noted that supplies of silica sand to customers in the north of England are also obtained (or could be obtained) from sources in Scotland.  The Authorities therefore urgently need to confirm whether or not this is the case.  I  should therefore be grateful if you could confirm whether or not the deposits worked at Lochaline are (or could be) exported by sea to England.    If they are, there are a couple of follow‐up questions, but I’d be extremely grateful if you could reply to this one, or forward this request to a colleague who might be able to do so.  

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I look forward to hearing from you.  Kind regards,   Alan   

Dr. Alan Thompson,   C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

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From: Alan Thompson <[email protected]>Sent: 13 September 2017 15:02To: Rob ThainSubject: FW: Urgent mineral planning enquiry - silica sand

Rob – one more email chain for you from last year, regarding the deposits at Fife in Scotland. – All grist to the mill in terms of demonstrating DtC – albeit not as early in the process as MPG are calling for.  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 19 September 2016 14:02 To: 'Martin Mcgroarty' ; '[email protected]' ; '[email protected]‐i.com'  Subject: RE: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  Thanks Martin,  My report has now been submitted in draft but there will be an opportunity to clarify these points as I finalise it next week.  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

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Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Martin Mcgroarty [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 19 September 2016 12:15 To: [email protected][email protected]‐i.com Cc: 'alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com' <alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com> Subject: FW: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand Importance: High  Dear Gareth/Kemp,  I understand that Alan Thompson is about to finalise his report so last call for any thoughts you wish to add into his review of the silica sand market.  Kind regards, Martin  

From: Martin Mcgroarty  Sent: 31 August 2016 11:21 To: [email protected][email protected]‐i.com Cc: Scott McInroy <[email protected]>; 'alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com' <alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com> Subject: RE: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  Dear Gareth/Kemp,  Wondering if you had any further thoughts on this matter that IO could pass on to Alan Thompson?  Kind regards, Martin  

From: Martin Mcgroarty  Sent: 04 August 2016 09:27 To: [email protected][email protected]‐i.com Cc: Scott McInroy <[email protected]> Subject: FW: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  

Gareth/Kemp,

Please see the email trail below, which follows on from the separate telephone conversations we had yesterday.

Any further information you could provide/thoughts you may have on the content would be gratefully appreciated.

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Happy for you to either respond directly to Alan Thompson or back to me and I'll pass it on if you prefer. (Please cc me into any direct reply to Alan Thompson.)

I'm much obliged for your continuing assistance in this, it's clear that silica sand is a very important resource.

Martin McGroarty,  Lead Professional (Minerals) Economy, Planning & Employability Services, Fife Council, Kingdom House, Kingdom Avenue, GLENROTHES, Fife. KY7 5LY  

03451 55 11 22 [email protected] 

From: Alan Thompson [alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com] Sent: 04 August 2016 09:15 To: Martin Mcgroarty Cc: Scott McInroy; 'Natalie Chillcott'; 'Ian Blake' Subject: RE: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand 

Dear Martin,  Many thanks for getting back to me with these two very helpful replies. I realised that you were away and had therefore tried contacting both Patersons and Fife Silica Sands directly, but so far without any response – so it is good to know that you’ve been able to talk to them.  From what I’ve unearthed from other sources, it seems that the company has a planning consent for a period of 60 years with a maximum output rate of 450,000 tonnes per year, but that its current output is ‘only’ about 250,000 tpa. This suggests to me that it potentially has a ‘spare’ capacity of about 200,000 tpa. Would you concur?  If only 30% of the output is suitable for glass making, that equates to 75,000 tpa of glass sand at present, with an additional spare capacity of 60,000 tpa of glass sand (potentiality). This, of course, begs the question of what happens to the remaining 70% of production and whether or not there would be a market for even more of that lower grade material. If not, I suspect that the company may well be very reluctant to increase its output of glass sand.  Another question is whether any of this output is suitable for float glass manufacturing (which requires a higher specification than for clear glass containers). From the information that you’ve provided, I suspect that it might not be, but if you could find out any more about that, it would be extremely helpful.  All of this has a bearing on the extent to which increased output from Burrowine Moor could potentially be regarded as a realistic substitute to the sites within in Norfolk, Cheshire and Surrey in supplying glass sand to the North of England, if and when the reserves at those sites are depleted. This, in turn, forms a key part of the evidence base for West Sussex County Council and the SDNPA as they finalise their strategy for silica sand. Whether or not they will need to allocate a proposed site within the National Park will depend to a large extent on whether alternative solutions can be found in areas outside National Parks.   So, if you could possibly dig into this a little further, to find out: 

1. Would the operator be able and willing to increase output in order to supply additional glass sand to manufacturers in northern England (if and when a shortage were to develop)? 

2. Is any of the sand from Burrowine Moor suitable for float glass manufacturing (and has any of it been used for that purpose either now or in the past)? 

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 … we’d be extremely grateful!  With many thanks  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 Cuesta Consulting Limited. “The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Martin Mcgroarty [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 03 August 2016 12:15 To: 'alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com' <alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com> Cc: Scott McInroy <[email protected]> Subject: FW: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  Alan,   I have now also heard back from the operator (Patersons of Greenoakhill) at Burrowine Moor.  I am informed that around 30% of the sand production at Burrowine Moor is of high enough quality for use in container glass (whisky bottles, vodka bottles, jam jars etc.). Whilst some of this goes to a glass manufacturer in Irvine, in Ayrshire, the vast majority of product is exported down south to glass manufacturing companies in Yorkshire, North Nottinghamshire and Lancashire.  I trust that this information is helpful.  Kind regards, Martin  Martin McGroarty Lead Professional (Minerals) Development Management Economy, Planning & Employability Services  Fife Council Kingdom House, Kingdom Avenue, GLENROTHES, Fife. KY7 5LY  03451 55 11 22 [email protected] 

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From: Martin Mcgroarty  Sent: 03 August 2016 11:37 To: 'alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com' <alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com> Cc: Scott McInroy <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  Alan,  Apologies for the delay in replying to you, I’m just catching up on e‐mails following two weeks leave.  In response to your question, I have this morning spoken with the operator at Devilla Quarry regarding the operations there. My understanding is that Devilla Quarry exists almost solely to supply the parent company’s (O‐I Manufacturing – formerly United Glass) needs for glass making at its Alloa factory, with the vast majority of its silica sand product supplying that source. O‐I Manufacturing also has a smaller glass‐making facility at Harlow in Essex (1 furnace at Harlow, 4 furnaces at Alloa) but the silica sand for the Harlow plant is sourced from silica sand quarries at Redhill in Surrey and Kings Lynn in Norfolk. Nothing from Devilla currently goes to the Harlow plant.   I understand that some sand from Devilla has gone south in the past for use on golf course bunkers but this is very much in the minority. In theory, the product at Devilla is of a quality suitable for export down south, but this would require a parent company business decision to go into that market and is not envisaged at this time.  In relation to Burrowine Moor, I’m awaiting a call back from the operator there and will revert to you with any information I can glean as soon a s I have it, which I hope will be later today.  Kind regards, Martin  Martin McGroarty Lead Professional (Minerals) Development Management Economy, Planning & Employability Services  Fife Council Kingdom House, Kingdom Avenue, GLENROTHES, Fife. KY7 5LY  03451 55 11 22 [email protected]  LISTEN | CONSIDER | RESPOND  

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 26 July 2016 15:13 To: Martin Mcgroarty <[email protected]> Cc: 'Natalie Chillcott' <[email protected]>; 'Ian Blake' <[email protected]>; Kevin Treadwell <[email protected]> Subject: Urgent mineral planning enquiry ‐ silica sand  Dear Martin, 

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 Kevin Treadwell at Fife Council has advised that you are the best person to contact with regard to this enquiry, but that you are away until 1st August. I would be extremely grateful if you could find a moment to respond soon after you get back.  I am acting as a consultant for the South Downs National Park Authority and West Sussex County Council and have been asked by them to get in touch with Planning Departments in Scotland which have dealings with Silica Sand production.   This is a request under the ‘Duty to Cooperate’ requirements of the planning system in England, and is to enable the two authorities to finalise their own strategy for silica sand provision. That, in turn, requires checks to be made with other authorities which have silica sand resources.  Having completed those checks with authorities in England, and having prepared a draft strategy, one consultee has noted that supplies of silica sand to customers in the north of England are also obtained (or could be obtained) from sources in Scotland. The Authorities therefore urgently need to confirm whether or not this is the case.  I should therefore be grateful if you could confirm whether or not the deposits worked at Burrowine Moor and/or Devilla Forest are (or could be) exported to England, especially for use in glass manufacturing.   I understand from a predecessor of yours (Chris Norman, now at West Lothian Council) that both deposits are used for clear glass manufacturing, specifically at the bottle manufacturing plant in Alloa, and that both permissions have substantial remaining reserves. He did not know, however, whether or not the material from these sites was exported to England, so I would be especially grateful for any further insight on this which you may be able to provide.  I look forward to hearing from you.  Kind regards,   Alan   

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

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Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

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From: Gareth Jones <[email protected]>Sent: 11 May 2017 11:38To: Rob ThainSubject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Devilla Quarry - Permitted Reserves

Rob  At current production & sales levels our estimated reserves are approx. 5‐10 years.  We are currently working within our Western Reserve, but have full permission to move into the Bath Quarry area of the site in the future.  Best regards  Gareth  

From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 11 May 2017 11:32 To: Gareth Jones <[email protected]‐i.com> Cc: Barbara Carroll <[email protected]‐i.com> Subject: FW: [EXTERNAL] Devilla Quarry ‐ Permitted Reserves Importance: High  Good morning Mr Jones  Your colleague Barbara Carroll has kindly given me your details as I had a query with regard to Devilla Quarry  Our question is – what are the estimated stock of Permitted Reserves of Silica Sand only at Devilla Quarry as of Spring 2017?  I look forward to hearing from you soon. Please feel free to contact me if you need any clarification.   Kind regards  Robert     Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078  

From: Barbara Carroll [mailto:[email protected]‐i.com]  Sent: 11 May 2017 11:29 

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To: Rob Thain <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Devilla Quarry ‐ Permitted Reserves  Hi Rob,  Since our phone call, I have spoken with the Quarry Manager.  He is better placed than me to answer your questions.  His e‐mail is   [email protected]‐i.com  If you don’t mind, maybe it would serve you better to send Gareth an e‐mail and   hopefully you’d get more specific answers than what I gave you.  Regards  

Barbara  

From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 11 May 2017 10:44 To: Barbara Carroll <[email protected]‐i.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Devilla Quarry ‐ Permitted Reserves Importance: High  Hi Barbara  Thank you very much for taking my telephone call just now.  Our question is – what are the estimated stock of Permitted Reserves of Silica Sand at Devilla Quarry as of Spring 2017?  I look forward to hearing from you soon. Please feel free to contact me if you need any clarification.   Kind regards  Robert     Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078  

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Sent: 11 May 2017 15:51To: Rob ThainSubject: RE: 00/00074/WFULL - Documents to be Made Publicly Available

Dear Robert, As per your request, I have made the documentation for the planning applications which you have referred to available online for viewing. In line with Fife Council’s current procedures the files will be made available for 28 days from today and will be closed on 08/06/17. I have provided links to the application files below; 00/00074/WFULL http://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=0000074WFULL Kind regards Colin Cowper Admin Assistant Business Support Service (Information Management) Shared Support Services Fife Council Kingdom House Kingdom Avenue Glenrothes KY7 5LY 03451 55 11 22 [email protected] LISTEN | CONSIDER | RESPOND  

From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 11 May 2017 12:23 To: Development Central <[email protected]> Subject: 00/00074/WFULL ‐ Documents to be Made Publicly Available Importance: High  Good afternoon  Further to my conversation with Evelyn a moment ago please could the supporting documents for the following application be made publicly available on your website for 4 weeks‐  Kind regards  Robert    

00/00074/WFULL | Partially retrospective application for the extraction of sand and associated minerals with ancillary mining development | Devilla Forest Quarry Bogside Alloa Clackmannanshire FK10 3QD

Reference 00/00074/WFULL

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Alternative Reference

Application Received Thu 16 Dec 1999

Application Validated Wed 05 Jan 2000

Address Devilla Forest Quarry Bogside Alloa Clackmannanshire FK10 3QD

Proposal Partially retrospective application for the extraction of sand and associated minerals with ancillary mining development

Status Decided

Decision Application Permitted with Conditions

Decision Issued Date Wed 04 Dec 2002

Appeal Decision

There are 0 documents associated with this application.

There are 0 cases associated with this application.

There is 1 property associated with this application

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From: Rob Thain <[email protected]>Sent: 19 September 2017 13:56To: 'Chris Banks'Cc: Rupy SandhuSubject: FW: Loch Aline Sand MineAttachments: img-914142701-0001.pdf; img-914142734-0001.pdf

(2 of 2)   Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078    

From: David Mudie [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 14 September 2017 15:58 To: Rob Thain <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine  Rob – I would need to get the case file out to be slightly more informed as there is no mention within the decision notice of extraction rates or total reserves.  However, in our last audit the applicant estimated that there is 1M Tonnes of unworked sand within the site.  Extraction has been c60,000 Tonnes per annum.  Permission lapses on 01 April 2018 but if renewed then at least 16 years supply would be available form this reserve alone. Attached is a copy of the permission and site plan.  My understanding is that Lochaline Quartz Sand Ltd is still working within the green line area.  The permission however extends to the red line.  I should think that the 1M Tonnes relates to the green line area but don’t know for certain.  To be more helpful and be able to determine the total reserve I would need to get the file which may take some time…but bear with me.  David  David Mudie Team Leader ‐ Development Management Development and Infrastructure Service, The Highland Council, Kintail House, Beechwood Business Park, Inverness, IV2 3BW (01463) 255205  This advice is given without prejudice to the future consideration of and decision on any application received by The Highland Council.  Thathar a’ toirt seachad na comhairle seo gun chlaon‐bhreith do bheachdachadh air agus co‐dhùnadh a thaobh tagradh sam bith a tha Comhairle na Gàidhealtachd a’ faighinn san àm ri teachd  Please take our customer survey  

 

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From: Rob Thain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 September 2017 14:36 To: David Mudie Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine Importance: High  Good afternoon David  Further to our exchange of emails in May I understand that you have been approached recently by the agent (Mineral Planning Group “MPG”) for a site that has been promoted, but not allocated, in the West Sussex Joint Minerals Plan. The Plan will be subject to an EiP next week.  The agent has set out the following purported emails in their latest representation:‐  On behalf of The Barlavington Estate, MPG contacted known Silica Sand producing MPAs with the following request on the 1st of August 2017:  We are seeking to establish the current permitted reserves of silica sand within your Authority’s boundary as of today’s date / the latest figures. In addition to this, we hope to establish what, if any, of these permitted reserves are of clear‐glass quality silica sand. Please note that we are limited by time, so your earliest response would be greatly appreciated.” 

 The Highland Council (whom WSCC consider to hold in excess of 39 million tonnes of silica sand7) replied with the two following emails:  15th of August 2017 ‐ Peter Wheelan ‐ Highland Council – Planner “Further to your query we are only aware of one silica sand supply in Highland ‐ Lochaline Mine, Morvern, Oban, PA80 5LQ. As discussed, at the recent Industrial Minerals (Silica Sand) May 2017 meeting in London, it was reported that the permitted reserves at 10 July 2017 for Lochaline stood at 39,930,000 tonnes with an annual tonnage of 110,000.  From examining the Highland Council’s Mineral Audit 2015/16 we can however advise that the quoted permitted reserves in the audit response stated 1,000,000 tonnes with a 2015/16 production rate of 60,000 tonnes, of which 40,000 was distributed out with Scotland. Almost 100% of material is transported by sea to either Runcorn, Garston or Clydebank.  From a quick review of the extant planning permission, reference LO/1993/590 which was granted on 1 April 1998, Condition 1 stipulates that the permission runs for 20 years unless with the express approval of the Planning Authority. 

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 I understand that my colleague David Mudie visited the site recently and maybe able to provide a further update should you require any further information….”  17th of August 2017 ‐ David Mudie ‐ Highland Council ‐ Development Management Team Leader (Our Bolding)  “…the 1M Tonnes is the estimated unworked minerals and stockpiles with permission that the company stated on their recent return to us. Not sure where the near 39M Tonne disparity comes from. However it is possible given the size of the site that this scale of resource is theoretically available. Has it perhaps comes from BGS data? The planning permission as currently written (not very well I have to say) dates from 1993 [clarified as 1998 in later correspondence] and effectively repeats what was consented by a previous permission in 1976. A new application to extend the period of extraction will be submitted in the near future and we can clarify the reserves etc at that stage but I would suggest that the 1M Tonnes is what MPAs south of the border should go on.”  With one email, we have been able to ascertain an almost 39 million tonne disparity between what WSCC consider The Highlands Council MPA to hold in permitted silica sand tonnage and what The Highlands Council themselves consider to be a useable / workable up‐to‐date figure. 

  However, what the latest MPG Representation does not acknowledge is that the Regulation 19 Representation they submitted to us in March 2017 clearly stated that the stock of Permitted Reserves at Loch Aline was in fact 363 (Three Hundred and Sixty Three) years (see the last page of the attached Rep), with an annual output of circa 110,000 tonnes.   Clearly, there is some confusion here.  Please could you confirm, to the best of your knowledge, the following at the Loch Aline site:‐  

1. The current Permitted Reserves; and  

2. The remaining identified resources without current consents.  Please feel free to contact me if you have any queries. I would be very grateful if you could get back to me by Friday afternoon.  Many thanks  Robert  

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From: David Mudie [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 15 May 2017 17:16 To: Rob Thain <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine  Robert  The Lochaline site was about to be mothballed by Tarmac until a resurgence in interest by Pilkington who subsequently bought it.  This sand is of extremely high quality and the company is only looking to use it in certain high end applications.  The site therefore continues to be worked.  We had hoped to have received a new application by now – since as you’ll have seen that permission lapses in mid 2018!  As the PoAN has no expiry date it will continue to exist on our records – and would anticipate receiving an application before 2018. We were informed that this would be likely some 18 months ago now.    If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.  David  David Mudie Team Leader ‐ Development Management Development and Infrastructure Service, The Highland Council, Kintail House, Beechwood Business Park, Inverness, IV2 3BW (01463) 255205  This advice is given without prejudice to the future consideration of and decision on any application received by The Highland Council.  Thathar a’ toirt seachad na comhairle seo gun chlaon‐bhreith do bheachdachadh air agus co‐dhùnadh a thaobh tagradh sam bith a tha Comhairle na Gàidhealtachd a’ faighinn san àm ri teachd  Please take our customer survey  

 

  

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From: Rob Thain <[email protected]>Sent: 19 September 2017 13:56To: 'Chris Banks'Cc: Rupy SandhuSubject: FW: Loch Aline Sand MineAttachments: 2501 - Honrcroft March 2017 MLP Reps - R1.0.pdf

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Chris – this is a more recent email (1 of 2)    Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078    

From: Rob Thain  Sent: 13 September 2017 14:36 To: 'David Mudie' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine Importance: High  Good afternoon David  Further to our exchange of emails in May I understand that you have been approached recently by the agent (Mineral Planning Group “MPG”) for a site that has been promoted, but not allocated, in the West Sussex Joint Minerals Plan. The Plan will be subject to an EiP next week.  The agent has set out the following purported emails in their latest representation:‐  On behalf of The Barlavington Estate, MPG contacted known Silica Sand producing MPAs with the following request on the 1st of August 2017:  We are seeking to establish the current permitted reserves of silica sand within your Authority’s boundary as of today’s date / the latest figures. In addition to this, we hope to establish what, if any, of these permitted reserves are of clear‐glass quality silica sand. Please note that we are limited by time, so your earliest response would be greatly appreciated.” 

 The Highland Council (whom WSCC consider to hold in excess of 39 million tonnes of silica sand7) replied with the two following emails:  

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15th of August 2017 ‐ Peter Wheelan ‐ Highland Council – Planner “Further to your query we are only aware of one silica sand supply in Highland ‐ Lochaline Mine, Morvern, Oban, PA80 5LQ. As discussed, at the recent Industrial Minerals (Silica Sand) May 2017 meeting in London, it was reported that the permitted reserves at 10 July 2017 for Lochaline stood at 39,930,000 tonnes with an annual tonnage of 110,000.  From examining the Highland Council’s Mineral Audit 2015/16 we can however advise that the quoted permitted reserves in the audit response stated 1,000,000 tonnes with a 2015/16 production rate of 60,000 tonnes, of which 40,000 was distributed out with Scotland. Almost 100% of material is transported by sea to either Runcorn, Garston or Clydebank.  From a quick review of the extant planning permission, reference LO/1993/590 which was granted on 1 April 1998, Condition 1 stipulates that the permission runs for 20 years unless with the express approval of the Planning Authority.  I understand that my colleague David Mudie visited the site recently and maybe able to provide a further update should you require any further information….”  17th of August 2017 ‐ David Mudie ‐ Highland Council ‐ Development Management Team Leader (Our Bolding)  “…the 1M Tonnes is the estimated unworked minerals and stockpiles with permission that the company stated on their recent return to us. Not sure where the near 39M Tonne disparity comes from. However it is possible given the size of the site that this scale of resource is theoretically available. Has it perhaps comes from BGS data? The planning permission as currently written (not very well I have to say) dates from 1993 [clarified as 1998 in later correspondence] and effectively repeats what was consented by a previous permission in 1976. A new application to extend the period of extraction will be submitted in the near future and we can clarify the reserves etc at that stage but I would suggest that the 1M Tonnes is what MPAs south of the border should go on.”  With one email, we have been able to ascertain an almost 39 million tonne disparity between what WSCC consider The Highlands Council MPA to hold in permitted silica sand tonnage and what The Highlands Council themselves consider to be a useable / workable up‐to‐date figure. 

  However, what the latest MPG Representation does not acknowledge is that the Regulation 19 Representation they submitted to us in March 2017 clearly stated that the stock of Permitted Reserves at Loch Aline was in fact 363 (Three Hundred and Sixty Three) years (see the last page of the attached Rep), with an annual output of circa 110,000 tonnes.   Clearly, there is some confusion here.  Please could you confirm, to the best of your knowledge, the following at the Loch Aline site:‐  

1. The current Permitted Reserves; and  

2. The remaining identified resources without current consents.  Please feel free to contact me if you have any queries. I would be very grateful if you could get back to me by Friday afternoon.  Many thanks  Robert  

  Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority

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From: David Mudie [mailto:[email protected]]  Sent: 15 May 2017 17:16 To: Rob Thain <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Loch Aline Sand Mine  Robert  The Lochaline site was about to be mothballed by Tarmac until a resurgence in interest by Pilkington who subsequently bought it.  This sand is of extremely high quality and the company is only looking to use it in certain high end applications.  The site therefore continues to be worked.  We had hoped to have received a new application by now – since as you’ll have seen that permission lapses in mid 2018!  As the PoAN has no expiry date it will continue to exist on our records – and would anticipate receiving an application before 2018. We were informed that this would be likely some 18 months ago now.    If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.  David  David Mudie Team Leader ‐ Development Management Development and Infrastructure Service, The Highland Council, Kintail House, Beechwood Business Park, Inverness, IV2 3BW (01463) 255205  This advice is given without prejudice to the future consideration of and decision on any application received by The Highland Council.  Thathar a’ toirt seachad na comhairle seo gun chlaon‐bhreith do bheachdachadh air agus co‐dhùnadh a thaobh tagradh sam bith a tha Comhairle na Gàidhealtachd a’ faighinn san àm ri teachd  Please take our customer survey  

 

  

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Portal.  Further guidance on how to do this can be found here on our Planning Web Pages. Please remember to quote the correct application reference number on the online form before submitting.  Thank you for your co‐operation.  Register at http://consult.highland.gov.uk to view, comment and be kept up to date on any future Development Plan documents in Highland. 

 

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From: Rob Thain <[email protected]>Sent: 19 September 2017 13:52To: 'Chris Banks'Cc: Rupy SandhuSubject: FW: consultation with mpas

Chris  This one as well.   Robert Thain MA MRTPI Planning Policy Lead South Downs National Park Authority South Downs Centre North Street Midhurst West Sussex GU29 9DH Tel: 01730 819263 www.southdowns.gov.uk Mbl 07791049078    

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 19 September 2017 13:16 To: 'Ian Blake' <[email protected]>; Rob Thain <[email protected]>; 'Rupy Sandhu' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: consultation with mpas  PS to last.  I also contacted Surrey and Kent on 1st may 2015 but have no record of any email replies. Most  info was gathered from the web or in some cases by phone  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson,   C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

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Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 19 September 2017 13:08 To: 'Ian Blake' <[email protected]>; 'Robert Thain' <[email protected]>; 'Rupy Sandhu' <[email protected]> Subject: consultation with mpas  Ian,  For the update study, the only MPAs which I contacted were those in Scotland.  Below is an email chain from the original study detailing contacts with Norfolk. Will keep looking for others.  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson,   C.Geol., FGS., MRTPI. 

Director,  

 

 

Cuesta Consulting Limited. 

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, England. TA13 5HF. 

Tel: +44 (0)1460 929 905 

Mob: +44 (0)7952 170 180 

Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

Website: www.cuesta‐consulting.com  

 

From: Alan Thompson [mailto:alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com]  Sent: 14 May 2015 17:24 To: 'Drake, Richard' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Silica Sand  Many thanks Richard  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol, FGS, MRTPI Director,  

Cuesta Consulting Limited.  

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, TA13 5HF Tel: 01460 929 905 Mobile: 07952 170 180 Web: www.cuesta‐consulting.com Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com 

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From: Drake, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 May 2015 17:21 To: 'Alan Thompson' Subject: RE: Silica Sand  

Hi Alan It is operated by Middleton Aggregates and is located south of the East Winch Road and north of the Blackborough End landfill, just south of the A47. This area is shown on the map for MIN 06 which is an allocated extension for carstone extraction immediately west of the existing site (Page 47 of the Minerals SSA). The existing silica sand extraction site operated by Sibelco is located just north of the A47. Best regards Richard Richard Drake Senior Planner Minerals and Waste Policy (Planning Services) Environment and Planning Community and Environmental Services 01603 222349 E-mail: [email protected] Norfolk County Council General enquiries: 0344 800 8020 or [email protected] www.norfolk.gov.uk   From: Alan Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 May 2015 16:40 To: Drake, Richard Subject: RE: Silica Sand  Dear Richard,   Many thanks indeed for this information.  I’ve already seen the LAA but the other material is very helpful.  And yes, please do keep me informed of developments.  Although my study for SDNPA/WSCC is almost finished, I think it is likely that I will be involved in the EIP of their emerging joint MLP, in due course, so it would be good to keep up to date with the wider picture.  My only other question for now is: which is the Carstone site which also supplies silica sand?  Kindest regards,  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol, FGS, MRTPI Director,  

Cuesta Consulting Limited.  

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, TA13 5HF 

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Tel: 01460 929 905 Mobile: 07952 170 180 Web: www.cuesta‐consulting.com Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

From: Drake, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 May 2015 16:30 To: 'Alan Thompson' Subject: RE: Silica Sand  

Hi Alan I have attached below a link to our latest Local Aggregates and Silica Sand Assessment. We include a short summary on silica sand at the end of the LAA, as otherwise silica sand wouldn’t be covered as none in Norfolk is used for general construction aggregate. We have one allocated site MIN 40 which is in our adopted site specific allocations document, this is allocated for three million tonnes of silica sand (Leziate sands) which will feed the glass sand processing plant. We are expecting a planning application for this site in 2015. We have an active extraction site (Leziate sands) which is currently feeding the glass sand processing plant, and a mothballed site which contains deposits previously used for foundry sand (Mintlyn sands). We also have a carstone extraction site which supplies Leziate sand to the glass sand processing plant which is found below the carstone. The processing site previously also contained plant for producing resin coated sands, however this plant has been decommissioned and the majority of the related buildings demolished. The Mintlyn sands have been highlighted in a BGS report as a potential source of ‘frac sand’ but no proposals have been put forward. The vast majority of sand from the processing plant leaves by rail going to glassworks in the North of England, there being a railhead at the processing plant. Recent three year production averages are slightly above the amount planned for. All sand extracted is sold for specialist uses, so sub-grade material is still of sufficient quality for uses such as equestrian and horticultural although we have no detailed breakdown of what uses such sand is sold for. We are currently carrying out a single issue review of Silica Sand as the allocated site leaves us with a shortfall based on the Core Strategy target. None of the other sites submitted were appropriate for allocation. I have included a link to the initial consultation document on the Single Issue review which gives some more information, but we are at an early stage and haven’t yet gone out for a ‘call for sites’. We are currently awaiting a response from Sibelco regarding landbank and production, do you want me to forward an updated summary when it is published? Please find below links to our LAA & SS Assessment, http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/view/NCC159976 our adopted Minerals SSA Plan, and http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/view/ncc126927 the Single Issue Review. http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/Environment/Planning/Minerals_and_Waste_planning_policy/Current_Planning_Policy_Consultations/index.htm

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Any further queries, please let me know. Best regards Richard Richard Drake Senior Planner Minerals and Waste Policy (Planning Services) Environment and Planning Community and Environmental Services 01603 222349 E-mail: [email protected] Norfolk County Council General enquiries: 0344 800 8020 or [email protected] www.norfolk.gov.uk   From: Alan Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 May 2015 14:45 To: Drake, Richard Subject: RE: Silica Sand  Hi Richard,  Many thanks for your reply.  I’m afraid I received no further information from your colleagues, so any responses that you can provide now would be greatly appreciated.  My final draft report is now with the SDNPA but I will have a chance to make a few tweaks or additions if you can get something back to me today or tomorrow.  Kind regards,  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol, FGS, MRTPI Director,  

Cuesta Consulting Limited.  

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, TA13 5HF Tel: 01460 929 905 Mobile: 07952 170 180 Web: www.cuesta‐consulting.com Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

From: Drake, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 May 2015 14:40 To: 'Alan Thompson' Subject: RE: Silica Sand  

Dear Dr Thompson

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Did you get a response back from Norfolk County Council while I was on leave? If so, did this answer all your queries, or is there anything else I might be able to help you with? Best regards Richard Richard Drake Senior Planner Minerals and Waste Policy (Planning Services) Environment and Planning Community and Environmental Services 01603 222349 E-mail: [email protected] Norfolk County Council General enquiries: 0344 800 8020 or [email protected] www.norfolk.gov.uk   From: Alan Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 May 2015 15:24 To: Johnson, Nick Cc: Drake, Richard Subject: RE: Silica Sand  Hi Nick  Many thanks for the reply.  A response before Richard gets back would be greatly appreciated, as I’m hoping to get my report to SDNPA by early next week. I know that they are keen to get involved with a ‘duty to co‐operate’ group, so there will undoubtedly be further exchanges of information, but my report is needed to provide a starting point on this issue, so any info that you can provide at this stage on the couple of items I mentioned would be greatly appreciated.  Kindest regards,  Alan  

Dr. Alan Thompson, C.Geol, FGS, MRTPI Director   

Cuesta Consulting Limited.  

“The Elms”, Scotts Lane, East Lambrook, South Petherton, Somerset, TA13 5HF Tel: 01460 929 905 Mobile: 07952 170 180 Web: www.cuesta‐consulting.com Email: alan.thompson@cuesta‐consulting.com  

From: Johnson, Nick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 May 2015 13:23 To: 'Alan Thompson'

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Cc: Drake, Richard Subject: RE: Silica Sand  

Alan, The best contact would be Richard Drake who is heading up out single issue review on silica sand. He also has a good handle on the national picture Unfortunately Richard is on leave until 11 May 2015. If you need a response before then I am sure we can get something back to you. Richard was in the process of trying to set up a duty to cooperate group of all MPA’s who have silica sand reserves/resources. Kind regards Nick From: Alan Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 May 2015 10:50 To: Johnson, Nick Subject: Silica Sand  Dear Nick,    I have been given your name by Claire Potts, Minerals and waste manager at the South Downs National Park Authority.  I am currently engaged by SDNPA to carry out a study of silica sand and soft sand within the National Park and adjoining areas, but also to provide up‐to‐date information on similar resources in other parts of the country.  I am aware of the resources to the east of Kings Lynn and have seen both the cores strategy and related documents on the Norfolk CC website.  These provide me with most of the information that I need but I wondered if you could spare a moment to provide me with the latest available update in terms of the silica sand landbank within Norfolk and, in particular, whether any new applications for silica sand production have been received in the last few years or are expected in the near future, to increase the landbank.  I look forward to hearing from you.  Kind regards,  Alan   

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Cuesta Consulting Limited.  

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From: Chris Banks <[email protected]>Sent: 19 September 2017 14:53To: Rupy SandhuSubject: Fwd: FW: Industrial Minerals (Silica Sand) Meeting May 2017 LondonAttachments: Draft SoCG Industrial Minerals July 2017 RT.docx; Notes of meeting of MPA's -

Silica Sand London Updated July 2017.docx; UK Industrial MIneral Silica Sand Supply July 2017.xlsx

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rob Thain <[email protected]> Date: 19 September 2017 at 14:11 Subject: FW: Industrial Minerals (Silica Sand) Meeting May 2017 London To: Chris Banks <[email protected]> Cc: Rupy Sandhu <[email protected]>

Chris

Sorry – one more email

Robert Thain MA MRTPI

Planning Policy Lead

South Downs National Park Authority

South Downs Centre

North Street

Midhurst

West Sussex

GU29 9DH

Tel: 01730 819263

www.southdowns.gov.uk

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From: Rob Thain Sent: 10 July 2017 13:28 To: 'Spriggs, Melissa' <[email protected]>; 'Trevor G Badley' <[email protected]>; 'WILLIAMS, Emma (Principal Planning Officer)' <[email protected]>; 'Roy Romans' <[email protected]>; 'Ian Blake' <[email protected]>; 'Drake, Richard' <[email protected]>; Katelyn Symington EI <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; 'Steven Osborne-James' <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Cc: Alma Howell <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; Rupy Sandhu <[email protected]>; Lucy Howard <[email protected]> Subject: Industrial Minerals (Silica Sand) Meeting May 2017 London Importance: High

Dear All

Further to our recent meeting in London, and the proposed meeting in September in Bedford that Roy Romans has kindly organised, please find attached a revised Statement of Common Ground, Meeting Minutes and excel spreadsheet with UK Silica Sand resources as of July 2017.

Thank you to all those who provided updated information since the end of May.

It would appear that the total permitted reserves of silica sand in England is approximately 45m tonnes, although of course there may be some other sites not yet accounted for. When the Scottish sites are added, this rises to a UK figure of 94m tonnes, although approximately 40m tonnes of this is one mined site (Lochaline) in the Highlands. UK annual production would appear to be approximately 4m tonnes.

David – please feel free to pass onto your MPA colleagues in Scotland who you consider may be interested in our work.

Kind regards

Robert

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Robert Thain MA MRTPI

Planning Policy Lead

South Downs National Park Authority

South Downs Centre

North Street

Midhurst

West Sussex

GU29 9DH

Tel: 01730 819263

www.southdowns.gov.uk

Mbl 07791049078

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