fernando okumura - lunch & learn august 11th, 2017
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Building a SaaS BusinessUCI – August 11th, 2017
Fernando Okumura
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There are 3 stages in a young SaaS business life- Know where the company is and focus 100% on its milestone -
Conserve Cash Invest Aggressively
Search for Scalable Sales Model
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Scaling the Business
13• Common mistake: hiring a lot of sales people or a very experienced VP of Sales too early > compromise the founder’s ability to fine tune the product/model.
• Sell directly to the customer. Then hire 2 reps (or test self-service). Do the math, make sure you can be profitable, and then, only then, scale.
Common mistake: can’t shift the mindset to aggressive investing. Specially critical in a land grab situation. Hire proven VP of sales here.
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Search for Product-Market fit
Common mistake:Getting investors who do not understand this can take 1 month or 4+ years
3 tips that can help you in the Product-Market Fit stage- This is easiest stage to get wrong -
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“When a great team meets a lousy market, market wins. When a lousy team meets a great market, market wins…” (Andy Rachleff)
Tip 1: if you want to swing for the fence, pick a great market (and timing)
Tip 2: work through the customer development process
• “Myth #1: Product market fit is always a discrete, big bang event
• Myth #2: It’s patently obvious when you have product/market fit …”
(Ben Horowitz)
“Serendipity plays a role in finding product/market fit but the process to get to serendipity is incredibly consistent…” (Andy Rachleff)
Use Steve Blank’s (or similar) process: start with a hypothesis, test it in the real world, prove it, move on or iterate
Tip 3: remember Product-Market fit is not enough
Message Audience
PricingDistribution
Channels
Product
Revenue per client determines the channel you can afford- If you cannot afford the channel you need, you are in trouble -
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Sales complexity
Self-service Inside sales External sales
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What channel will you needed and how much will it cost?
Internal sales force illustrative example
• 3 demos/day = 60 demos/month = 720 demos/year
100 new clients / year
14% closing rate
• Sales Rep compensation = $100k / year
$300k / year
3x to make ends meet
• $3k/year = $250/month > churn > $300/month
Scaling the Business
Sales leadership is key to scale the business- Wrong sales director can set you back a year or more -
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When to hire a sales director?
• Until $1-2M, it must be you. Start selling yourself, then hire 2-5 reps. Look for passion for sales, curiosity and entrepreneurial spirit.
• The main point here is accelerate you to Product-Market fit and create a repeatable process (more so than simply sell)
• Before $1-2M: hard to afford good sales director
What is the sales director’s job at this stage? 1. Recruit. You need 8-12 great reps to triple your
revenues in the next 12 months2. Improve team’s performance (deal size, closing
rates and so on)3. Sell him/herself (note this is the last one)
How to select a sales director? Do not hire if: • Has not successfully hired and ramped reps selling an
average contract value (ACV) similar to yours • Cannot immediately bring 2-4 great sales reps in first 2
weeks (ask who he/she would bring in the interview). Great VPs always have hardcore followers.
If you hire the wrong sales director, fix it FAST:• A VPS costs ~$300k. If he/she is good, increases
revenue/lead by 20% in first 3 months, and you are at $1-2M, he/she pays for himself quickly. $300k is a lot.
• Costs key team morale and future upgrades and referrals• Red flags when new VPS:
does not hire, fire and promote in first few days does not increase revenue/lead in 1st sales cycles “we need to build pipeline”, “sales cycles getting
longer”, “leads are bad”. Do not believe in excuses, do not wait 6 months to fix it!
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SaaS does not become cash flow positive at moment of sale, which extends financing requirements
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Cash flow from a single client
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Customer acquisition cost• Lead generation costs (e.g. SEM, content generation, other
marketing)• Sales force costs (e.g. recruiting, training, payroll)• Technology costs (e.g. CRM, telco)
Recurring revenue
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Entrepreneurs and investors need to understand SaaS economics to be able to scale the business with confidence
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Cumulative Net Profit of a SaaS Co. with sales force
Months
• What do you do when the product shows market traction?
• You increase investment and accelerate growth. What happens to profitability and cash flow?
• In SaaS with a sales force, the more you invest on growth, the more negative your profits and cash flow become in the short-mid-term.
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Understanding client/revenue loss (churn) is a key success factor in SaaS
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At some point your sales force may be only replacing churned clients, not growing your company. In addition, your cost/lead will tend to increase as the low hanging fruits become scarcer
You must be able to increase average revenue per client to compensate client churn and keep growing in the longer run
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Client B: $2.5k/month
Client A: $500/month
If we loose Client A, we have 50% client churn, but 17% revenue churn
If we loose Client B, we have 50% client churn, but 83% revenue churn
There is a difference between Client Churn and Revenue Churn. At the end of the day revenue is what really matters.
Client B: $2.5k/month
Client A: $500/month
Client B: $3,5k/month
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Up/Cross selling can more than compensate for client churn
Happy clients buy more (up/cross sell), refer you to their colleagues, and take you with them when they move to another company (lower CAC)
You must have a great Client Success Team to sustain growth, but client success is everyone’s job
- CEO must instill client success throughout the company -
Client Success
Client Success Team•- Onboarding
•- Proactive Customer Service
•- Monitoring Red Flags
•- Up/Cross sell
Sales Team-Do not oversell
-Do not sell to wrong customers
-Make good first impression
Product Team- Product Reliability (bugs, downtime)
- Product Design/UX
- Response time
Marketing Team-Marketing to clients (retention marketing), not just prospects
-Client nurturing (e.g. best practice newsletters, client events, webinars, case studies, email tracks, product communications)
Client Happiness
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> 3xLTV CAC
< 12 monthsMonths to recover CAC
Life Time Value (LTV) vs. Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) gauges profitability and Months to Recover CAC, capital requirements
Reference Metrics
• LTV = Average revenue per client x gross margin % x average client lifetime (1/churn)• CAC = Total Sales & Marketing Expenses / # of new customers
• Months to recover CAC = CAC / Gross Margin of a single monthly fee• Gross Margin = Revenues – Costs to create revenue (e.g. hosting, licensing, support & maintenance)
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One of the key metrics you want to follow is Net Monthly Recurring Revenue (Net MRR) over time
MRR from new clients
Net MRR
Expansion MRR
Churned MRR
MRR Bookings
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MRR from new clients: self explanatory
Net New MRR: New MRR + Expansion MRR – Churned MRR
Expansion MRR: New MRR from existing clients (up/cross sell)
Churned MRR: MRR lost due to churn and downgrades
• MRR alone does not show the complete picture
• Break down of Net MRR shows• If bookings are growing• If we are being able to increase
revenue per client• How bad churn is
• If you want to know where you are heading, use this graph