borrowed objection of ali mirza against imam ibn taimiah and its refutation

7/25/2019 BORROWED OBJECTION OF ALI MIRZA AGAINST IMAM IBN TAIMIAH AND ITS REFUTATION

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Simple minded Zubair “Ali: Zai made an objection on ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: that

He called Saiyiduna: ‘Ibn “Umar ED: a !id"ati: #Heretic$%

Zubair “Ali Zai &a immediately in'ormed that he miundertood the Te(t o' ‘Imam

‘Ibn Taimiah RD:%

The proper e(planation o' Te(t o' ‘Imam ‘Ibn Taimiah RD: &a preented to Zubair

“Ali Zai%

Initially Zubair “A)I: Zai re'ued to accepted any e(planation or interpretarion o' the

Te(t o' ‘Ima:m ‘ibn TaimiahRH:% !ut in e*eral oral dicuion Zubair &a de'eated

and he &a unable to reply% So Zubair be+an to ma,e e(cue%

He aid that i' uch e(planation and interpretation o' Te(t o' ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah

RD: be accepted then E(planation o' TE-TS o' Shah ‘Ima:"i:l and a number o'

#‘Ahluunnah$ Deoband Scholar mut alo be accepted% He &a in'ormed that

inpite o' le+al debate and dipute etc% ‘Ahlul H:Adi:th: do accepted the

e(planation o' ‘Ahluunnah Deoband Scholar li,e .aulana: ‘Ahra' “Ali: TTha:n*i/

.aula:na: 0a:im 1a:nata*i etc% In the cae o' Shah ‘Ima:"il Shahi:d A)) THE ‘Ahlul

H:adi:th: de'end him throu+hout the Indian Subcontinent%

Thi annoyed Ta,2ri: minded Zubair “Ali: and he declared Sha:h ‘Ima:"i:l Shahi:d a

3a2r on e*eral iue%

Hi main objection &ere :4 5$ Sha:h ‘Ima:"il belie*ed in a 'orm o' 6a:tatul 6uju:d

a E*ident 'rom hi boo, “A!0A:T% 7$ He belie*ed that “A))8H Hath 9mnipotence our

alehood #3idh:b$% 9n the contrary Zubair belie*ed that ‘A))8H Hath no

9mnipotence o*er alehood %

rom ‘Imam ‘Ibn Taimiah to .aula:na: ‘Ahra' “Ali Than*i / Zubair “Ali Zai declared

each one a a 1on .ulim%

Thi caued a +reat problem and due to immene preure he remained ilent on

the iue o' Ta,2:r o' ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah/ Sha:h 6aliyullah/ Sha:h ‘Ima:;i:l Shahi:d

RH: % Ho& e*er he did not remain ilent o*er “ulma:; o' ‘Ahluunnah Deoband% !ut

he ,ne& that i' he declared them a 3a2r/ a lar+e majority o' ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: hall

not accept hi declaration%

Zubair “Ali: Zai &a <uic, il*er in declarin+ any one a 3a:2r &ho diputed 'rom him

or 'rom &hom he diputed/ e*en on the iue o' interpretation o' ‘Ah:adi:th: %

Ho& e*er in cae o' ‘ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: he &a 2nally ilenced and purported

that he ha accepted the E(planation but not in the cae o' Sha:h ‘Ima:"i:l Shahi:d

RH: %

Se*en month latter Zubair “Ali Zai promied that he &ould remain ilence on the

Alle+ed 9bjectionable Te(t o' ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: % It appear that Zubair “Ali:



Zai ome ho& injected hi objection in the mind o' “Ali: .ir=a: 9' >helum &ho ha

no re+ard 'or ‘Ima:m ‘ibn Taimiah RD: etc% but but ha*e tremendou ympathie 'or

Ra*a:2d: #‘Ata+h'arullah$%

Thi ame objection i repeated by the En+ineer o' >helum namely “Ali .ir=a: %

So it i neceary to repond the objection o' Zubair “Ali Zai and the ame i true

a+aint the 9bjection o' “Ali: .ir=a: o' >helum%

The “Arabic &ord !8D8“8 mean to ma,e ome thin+ &ith out any e(ample%

‘A))8H i called !adi:" ince He made hea*en and earth &ith out any e(ample

jut by Hi 9mnicience%

A a Reli+iou Term it mean Herey and Apotate%

‘Ibn Taimiah RH: did not declared Saiyiduna: ‘Ibn “Umar RD: AS !id"ati/ or an an

a+ent o' !id"ah in the meanin+ o' Herey but in the )ITERA) .EA1I1?% The literalmeanin+% ‘Ibn “Umar RD: made an ‘Ijtiha:d &hich &a not 'ound in the time o'

Saiyiduna “Abu !a,r etc%

So in the literal meanin+ it i an Inno*ation ince it &a nor 'ound pre*iouly in the

‘Ila:mic @orld%

Ho& e*er it i a Sunni A(iom that no ‘ijtiha:d o' any S:ah:bi: RD: can be termed a

Herey #!id"ati .ubtadi" I1 THE TER.919)9?IBA) .EA1I1?$/ yet the &ord can be

ued in the literal meanin+%$

“An other example is that Saiyiduna: “Umar RD: usred the

word B-D”A-H for the ama:”ah of Tra:!i:h:” "

So this is an example that the word Bid”ah is sometime used in the #iteral

$eanin% &A thin% not found 'efore ()nno!ation *and not in the

Terminolo%i+al $eanin% &Heresy(Unorhtodoxy,Heterodoxy*"

@hen thi an&er &a preented to Simple and Ta,2:ri: minded Zubair “Ali :Zai HE

RESC91DED AS 9))9@:4

I accept thi in principle / but my #1e&$ objection i that &hy ‘Ima:m ‘ibn Taimiah

RD: ued thi &ord / &hy he did notchoe any other &ord 'ro,m “Arabic )an+ua+e

'or the intended meanin+% He &a reponded that it i beyond the cope o' the

domain o' any dicuion about any author &ho o e*er he may be /&hy he did

choe a particular &ord/ the iue i that &hat i the literal meanin+ 9R THE

I1TE1DED meanin+ o' the choen &ord%

‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RD: could poible alternati*e and ‘Ima:m could choe any one

o' them #'rom “Arabic )an+ua+e$ /yet the <uetion i not that &hat ‘Ima :m B9U)D



do / the <uetion i @hat Imam Did do/ and &hat i the correct e(planation o' hi

&ord ued in the entence%

Thi an&er ilenced Zubair “Ali: Zai once 'or all% Zubair “Ali Zai &a hyper Seniti*e

&ith the 'ear that he mi+ht be e(pelled 'rom the domain o' ‘Ahlul H:adi:th:% He &a

al&ay a'raid o' .uh:a<<i< ‘irha:d ‘Al H:a<< ‘Athari/ that he may re'ute hi *ie&and it i <uite ob*iou that .uh:a<<i< ‘Irha:d “Al Ha<< i the one o' the cholar o'

Hi+het Eminent in the ‘Ila:mic @orld /!ut “Ali: .i=a ha no repect o' any one%

He continue to accue ?reat Scholar o' Sunnim in particular ‘Ima:m ‘ibn Taimiah

RD:%

!ut “Ali .ir=a i ilent a church; mice a+aint the enemie o' S:ah:abah RD:/ @H9

!E)IE6E that S:ah:bah RD: li,e “Abu !a,r/ “Umar% “Uth:ma:n Radiyallahu “Anhu/

“A:;ihah Rd:iyallahu “Anha:/ a .ulim !ila: ‘Ima:n #Ata+h'arullah$%/ and it i li,ely

that he i not +oin+ to brea, the ice%

An other answer which may be included in this article is that to claim an act as Innovation is one thing

and to declare the Agent of the act as Heretic is an other thing.

Similarly the difference between Innovator and Heretic are two different things.

Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RD: only meant that This ‘I!tiha:d "# ‘Ibn $mar RD: was not found %rior to his act of

‘I!tiha:d. &ut it is not an heresy even if it may not be %referred. Since This ‘I!tiha:d was not found in the

times of 'oble (ali%hate.

)ulti*Standard "f +ngineer Ali )ir,a

.aulana .aududi: DEB)ARED ome act o' Saiyiduna: .u:"a*iah RD:a !id"ah

#‘Ata+h'arullah$ :not in the )iteral .eanin+ but in the Reli+iou .eanin+ % !ut “Ali:

.ir=a remained ilenced a i' he ha not read it% #3hi:la'at 6a .8lu:,iat ! . A%A

.audu:di:$

Thi implie that “Ali: .ir=a: ha enmity o' ‘Ima:m ‘ibn Taimiah becaue he de'ended

Saiyiduna: .u:"a*iah RD:

Thi i a .ulti8Standard o' “Ali .ir=a:%

borrowed objection of ali mirza against imam ibn taimiah and its refutation

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