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JOSHUA FREEDMAN & ALAN DEUTSCHMAN A HOPE FOR CHANGE Page 1 A Hope for Change Alan Deutschman on Change or Die By Joshua Freedman When the stakes are high, life and death for the people or the company, change will happen – right? Fast Company senior writer Alan Deutschman was surprised that the answer is “no.” He was attending a conference on the future of healthcare where the dean of Johns Hopkins talked about what happens to cardiac patients when they’re told to “change or die.” The incident led to an in-depth analysis of individual and organizational change with a startling conclusion: While change is possible, the usual approach doesn’t work. Change Works… Sometimes. The difference is people – and how they are led.

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  • JOSHUA FREEDMAN & ALAN DEUTSCHMAN A HOPE FOR CHANGE

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    A Hope for Change

    Alan Deutschman on Change or Die By Joshua Freedman

    When the stakes are high, life and death for the people

    or the company, change will happen – right? Fast Company senior writer Alan Deutschman was surprised that the answer is “no.” He was attending

    a conference on the future of healthcare where the dean of Johns Hopkins talked about

    what happens to cardiac patients when they’re told to “change or die.” The incident led

    to an in-depth analysis of individual and organizational change with a startling

    conclusion: While change is possible, the usual approach doesn’t work.

    Change

    Works…

    Sometimes.

    The difference is

    people – and how

    they are led.

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    How often have you heard an executive

    pull out the “change or die” rhetoric,

    attempting to rally the forces by

    enjoining them to take up a last-ditch

    effort to save the company? The

    “common sense” notion is that a forceful

    presentation of facts will instill fear

    causing employees to take the

    transformation seriously. Confronted

    with this hard-edged urgency, there will

    be no room for dissent. The trouble is

    that even in real “change or die”

    situations, people don’t change. Real

    change requires a much more subtle,

    relationship-driven approach.

    Take the case of a cardiac patient just

    after a bypass: “You’re in a change or

    die situation,” Deutschman explains,

    “You have to switch to a much healthier

    lifestyle or you’re going to be killed by

    this terrible disease that you have. And

    even when doctors tell these patients

    you have to change or die, study after

    study has shown that two years later,

    nine out of ten of the heart patients

    have not changed. We like to think that

    crisis and fear motivate people to

    change. And yet the studies have

    shown that even in the change or die

    situation most people can't change.

    That just really blew me away and made

    me want to understand the psychology.”

    Deutschman first wrote about “Change

    or Die” in a 2005 Fast Company article

    that leads, “All leadership comes down

    to this: changing people's behavior. Why

    is that so damn hard? Science offers

    some surprising new answers -- and

    ways to do better.” His new book takes

    the concept further, explaining how the

    traditional corporate view of change just

    doesn’t work.

    While the notion that people won’t even

    change in a “Change or Die” situation

    sounds bleak, Deutschman isn’t: “We’re

    change machines. We improvise, we

    adapt, we overcome. And normally we

    do very well with change. It’s just an

    issue when people or organizations get

    stuck. When we’ve tried the solutions

    that we know, the supposed solutions

    again and again, they keep failing. At

    these times, we can change but we need

    to learn from other people.”

    “Facts, fear and force

    don’t actually

    motivate change.”

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    The real challenge

    isn’t change, but the

    “conventional wisdom”

    that change requires

    the Three Fs: Force,

    Facts, and Fear. He

    points back to the

    heart patients – where

    even a doctor’s

    expertise, extensive

    medical information,

    and the fear of death

    are not motivating.

    “You can't just tell

    people that they need

    to change. You can’t

    try to just scare them. And you can't try

    to force them by relying on the moral

    authority of your position or expertise.”

    One reason the FFF driven change fails

    is the inattention to a basic principle of

    emotional intelligence: When people

    are pushed, they resist. When facts and

    fear are used to try and force change,

    people may comply in the short term,

    but they don’t have a real ownership of

    the change. It’s obedience, not

    motivation. In the Six Seconds’ Model

    of emotional intelligence, this concept is

    captured in the competency of Intrinsic

    Motivation. Without Intrinsic Motivation,

    people will not persevere, even if

    something is “good for them.” So an

    effective change leader will go beyond

    logic to engage people at a heart level.

    “We tend to think that people are

    rational. Especially in the business world

    where leaders usually come from

    engineering or scientific or financial

    backgrounds. These are very

    intellectually accomplished people. And

    they’re doing

    things that are

    technically

    sophisticated. So

    they tend to have

    a very rational

    mindset. And

    they like to think

    that other people

    are rational too.

    So if you just give

    people accurate

    information

    they’ll make the

    right choice. But

    in the case of

    heart patients, the doctors who come

    from this rational background have told

    their patients you have a very bad

    disease, it’s going to kill you unless you

    make these changes in how you choose

    to live. And they give people the

    accurate information and people still

    don’t change.”

    What’s the alternative? “You have to

    make an emotional connection with

    them that inspires a new sense of

    hope.”

    Deutschman says extensive research

    has shown that the most successful

    change actually begins with an

    emotionally significant relationship

    followed by repetition and reframing. In

    the 1950s psychologists at Johns

    Hopkins University began to study what

    forms of psychotherapy worked, and

    hundreds of studies have followed up

    on this work. “The key factor is the

    emotional connection that’s made

    between the patients and the therapist.

    Its not so much the specifics of the

    Deutschman’s new book, Change or Die,

    provides a compelling roadmap for

    successfully leading change.

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    method of therapy. It’s

    whether you connect as human

    beings. It’s whether you’re

    with someone who has this

    sincere belief that together

    you can learn to change.”

    The feeling of hope is

    essential, and it comes partly

    from the logical side – seeing

    results – and largely from

    something less tangible.

    “We’ve tried what we know

    again and again and it’s failed.

    So people and organizations

    become demoralized, and we

    basically give up hope.” This

    pessimism is a natural consequence of

    the ongoing churn in corporate life –

    the annual (or sometimes quarterly)

    “transformational strategy” unleashed

    by some well-meaning and well-paid

    consulting firm. You can just hear the

    middle managers’ “here we go again”

    refrain as the latest in an incessant

    string of changes come rolling over

    them, doomed before it starts by a lack

    of buy-in.

    The antidote isn’t a more logical plan,

    Deutschman says, it’s a compelling

    relationship. “What we need is someone

    who can give us the belief and the

    expectation that we can change. It’s

    kind of a leap of faith. It comes from

    having a personal relationship and

    being inspired by their belief in us.

    That’s something that gets

    communicated in an emotional way.”

    This emotional need goes far beyond a

    paycheck. Yes, people need to pay the

    bills, but they also need something

    deeper, and some leaders have

    committed to provide that. In the book,

    Deutschman uses an example from the

    1990s when General Motors closed a

    plant because the workers were

    “unmanageable.” The old paradigm was

    “telling people to do something and

    relying on the force of threatening to

    fire them if they didn’t.” When Toyota

    Hope is the antidote, the missing catalyst, that will

    enable a demoralized team to successfully change.

    “How do you

    overcome that

    demoralization?

    What you really need

    is an emotional

    inspiration, a human

    connection.”

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    took over the plant, they tried a

    different set of motivators.

    “They took these American

    workers to Japan and showed

    them how this actually worked

    on the assembly lines in Japan.

    You can’t just tell people

    something. You have to prove

    it to them through experience.

    They set up a situation

    appealing to people’s desire to

    be competent, to be creative, to

    be successful, and to be

    admired and respected for

    those skills by the people they

    work with.”

    In Change or Die, Deutschman

    describes the milestones of

    successful change outlining a

    process parallel to the Six

    Seconds’ EQ Change MAP. In

    the Six Seconds’ model, change

    is successful when it proceeds

    through three continuously

    cycling phases: Engage,

    Practice, and Reflect. The phases each

    have specific objectives. There are both

    tactical and emotional dimensions to

    making the model function:

    • Engage: create an initial plan with buy-in and metrics. This

    requires a trusting emotional

    connection with the change

    leader(s) who encourages hope

    and builds confidence.

    • Activate: implement new approaches to test efficacy. This

    requires encouragement and

    coaching to learn, practice and

    master new patterns and skills

    needed to facilitate change and

    growth.

    • Reflect: identify changes and cement the wins. Here change

    leaders must articulate and

    celebrate successes – and foster

    curiosity and dialogue to assess

    the change effort and refocus

    the plan for optimal efficacy.

    This cyclical approach to change allows

    for a much more rapid cycle time

    creating short-term wins that

    demonstrate the efficacy. Often change

    efforts fail because they attempt to skip

    over or short change one phase – most

    frequently making a plan in isolation

    The Six Seconds’ EQ Change MAP guides the process of

    effective change. The model shows how to engage the

    emotional drivers to sustain a continuous

    transformational process.

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    and failing to successfully engage

    people.

    Part of the problem with conventional

    change efforts is that they come on the

    heels of many other similar efforts – all

    tied to facts, force, and fear. People

    “know” this new change won’t work.

    That perception is about emotion, not

    logic, so change leaders need to use

    emotional intelligence to connect at a

    heart-level. “An organization that’s

    struggling and failing has tried various

    efforts and strategies that have all failed

    in the past. You need to give people

    hope. You need to make them believe

    that this time with this leader and this

    new strategy, that there really is hope

    for things to turn around. And that’s

    something that can only be done

    emotionally.”

    “Again and again leaders have told the

    people ‘we have a plan, we have a

    solution, follow me,’ and it’s failed. So

    the people in the organization are

    demoralized; they have given up hope.

    So how do you overcome that

    demoralization?

    Engage

    What you really need is an emotional

    inspiration, a human connection. To

    people coming from the hardcore,

    quantitative, financial, MBA, Ph.D. kind

    of background, this may just seem kind

    of squishy. But it’s true.”

    “There’s an example in my book of the

    incredible turnaround of IBM beginning

    under Lou Gerstner in the 1990s.

    Gerstner came from that rational,

    technocratic mindset. He had been the

    youngest partner at McKenzie

    Consulting and had an engineering and

    MBA background. When he came in to

    People “know” the change won’t work.

    Change leaders need to move people

    beyond that fear and resistance.

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    take over IBM, people thought it would

    be all spreadsheets and strategic

    planning and cost-cutting.

    Gerstner somehow realized that what he

    needed to do was emotionally inspire

    the belief of the people in IBM. Inspire

    them that they could be a great

    company once again; that they could

    thrive and have a brilliant future. He had

    to go out there and give speeches and

    show by his own conviction, by his own

    passion, by his own belief, that it could

    change. He had to use his emotions to

    inspire the emotions of the people in

    the company.”

    While the old-style charismatic leader

    can give a great locker-room speech and

    fire people up, this relationship-based

    change leadership requires a more

    subtle process. When people are

    coming from hopelessness and distrust,

    their radar is up, actively looking for

    another snow job. Authenticity beats

    slick.

    “It starts with your own belief and your

    own compassion and your own

    conviction. People have to see that

    you’re sincere. Gerstner was not a great

    public speaker. He was not a naturally

    charismatic person – not a Steve Jobs

    kind of inspirational speaker. In fact,

    Gerstner’s a little bit awkward. But

    people saw the speech and they got a

    sense of his sincerity. They felt

    something. And when we look into

    someone’s eyes and we hear the tone of

    their voice and we hear the rhythm of

    their speech, we’ve learned from

    experience when people are sincere and

    that’s important.”

    While sincerity is key, the emotional

    component is not sufficient by itself.

    Change will be derailed by a lack of buy-

    in, but it is equally useless to launch

    change without a good plan.

    Activate

    “In any kind of corporate turnaround,

    you need what John Kotter of Harvard

    Business School calls short-term wins.

    You need to have some success fairly

    quickly that allows people to experience

    the change. This helps them believe in

    it.”

    “In my book, I talk about the Dean

    Ornish program for heart patients. It’s a

    program for people with very bad heart

    disease who have been eating very high-

    fat diets and being sedentary. Ornish

    puts them on a radical vegan diet where

    they get fewer than 5% of their calories

    from fat and they’re taken out every day

    to exercise. It’s a huge lifestyle change.

    But after one month, they see that their

    chest pains have almost entirely gone

    Like roads connecting cities, our brains form

    patterns. These patterns become “the way,”

    simplifying our lives but making change more

    challenging.

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    away and that they’ve lost weight and

    their cholesterol is falling. These rapid

    improvements are also a very strong

    motivator for change.”

    “So you start by communicating your

    belief and your sincerity. But then you

    still need to prove to people through

    their own experience. They need to see

    and feel the benefits of the change if

    you’re going to get them to commit to

    the hard work of making it happen over

    the longer term.”

    The challenges of change are rooted in

    neurobiology – the human brain literally

    wires itself to respond a particular way.

    The patterns of thought, feeling, and

    action quickly form, based on

    experience, and slowly change – it’s our

    brain’s way of making life easy. To

    overcome the brain’s wiring, sometimes

    a company needs a fairly radical culture

    change.

    Since the neurological patterns form

    based on experience, corporate culture

    tends to be self-reinforcing – people

    come to see a particular way of doing

    business as normal, and normal feels

    right. But business-normal is often

    dysfunctional.

    Deutschman illustrates the opportunity

    to break out of “dysfunctional normal”

    with the story of the W.L. Gore company

    – the makers of the waterproof fabric

    GORE-TEX widely used in outdoor gear,

    founded in 1958 by Bill and Vieve Gore.

    “Bill was an engineer, a chemist, at

    Dupont back in the 1950s – a classic,

    old school, military command and

    control, hierarchal industrial company.

    And he was frustrated by it. He realized

    that there were only two places where

    people really talked to each other and

    worked together in creative ways.

    “One was on a taskforce. When the

    company really had a problem, they put

    together a taskforce and they threw out

    the rules. People didn’t have to only

    report to their boss; they just put a

    group of people together and they

    actually found creative solutions and got

    things done and worked with each

    other.

    “The other time was in the carpool on

    For change to occur, people need to hold

    a new kind of conversation. Given that

    any honest dialogue is rare, it takes an

    exceptional workplace context for people

    to openly talk through change.

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    the way to work where people in the car

    actually talked to each other without

    regard to the hierarchy and the chain of

    command. Then when they got to the

    office at 9:00, it would fall into the

    military paradigm.”

    So Gore decided to start a company that

    would follow the rules of the taskforce

    and the carpool – a company where

    people would focus on working together

    to solve problems. Now almost 50

    years old with over $1.8b in sales, 45

    plants, and nine years near the top of

    Fortune’s 100 Best Places to Work, the

    experiment seems to be a success.

    In terms of change, what’s interesting

    about the Gore case is what happens

    when a new Associate (not “employee”)

    comes into the company. “Someone

    from the outside who’s worked in

    traditional hierarchal companies comes

    in and they’re told, ‘We have no bosses

    here.’ At first the new people think that

    that’s just corporate talk and

    euphemism. The Gore people say,

    ‘Really – you don’t have a boss. Your

    job is to go and meet all the people in

    the group and get to know them and let

    them get to know you. And then once

    you know each other and have a feeling

    for each other then they’ll start to ask

    you to take part in things.’”

    “The newcomers typically respond:

    ‘Let’s get over all the PR and the

    corporate euphemism. Really, who’s my

    boss? Who’s gonna tell me what to do?

    What’s my job?’ It takes a while for them

    to realize you have to create your job.

    You have to connect with other people

    there and get them to invite you to join

    their teams and their efforts. But it

    doesn’t make any sense to people

    because it’s totally outside their

    experience, it’s outside their belief

    system or conceptual framework.”

    This experience illustrates the power of

    patterns. The conceptual framework

    starts at a neurological level with brain

    cells connecting to form interlocking

    systems. Those new Gore employees

    have the system of “boss” and

    “hierarchy” strongly connected with the

    notion of “work.” The patterns become

    a kind of frame though which they see

    At first people just reject facts that don’t

    fit their preconceptions. Then, with time

    and experience in a new context, the

    preconceptions get washed away.

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    the world, and their brains literally

    restructure so that frame makes sense.

    “We all have these belief systems or

    conceptual frameworks or patterns.

    We’ve had them for a long time, and

    they influence our gut feelings about

    things. They shape how we view the

    world. And when you present people

    with facts that don’t fit into their

    conceptual frameworks, they tend to

    just reject the facts.”

    Reflect

    The capacity to recognize these patterns

    is one of the core competencies of

    emotional intelligence, and it’s one of

    the eight competencies measured by the

    Six Seconds’ Emotional Intelligence

    Assessment (SEI). Understanding this

    link between thoughts, feelings, and

    actions, seeing these unconscious filters

    and response mechanisms, is a key first

    step to responding intentionally rather

    than reacting on autopilot.

    The W.L. Gore case also illustrates what

    neuroscientists call “plasticity” – they

    brain is changeable, and first-hand

    experience over a period of time is a

    powerful way to rewire the synapses.

    This reality has important implications

    for education as well – including MBA

    education. “I’ve been writing about MBA

    business education over the past 20 or

    25 years, and every few years the top

    schools will call on journalists to say

    ‘we’re changing the program. It’s not

    just about analysis, it’s not just

    quantitative – we’re doing the soft skills,

    we’re doing leadership, we’re doing

    communications and that’s what’s

    important now.’ But I’m still not sure

    that people fully grasp the importance

    of the human elements. And maybe the

    The first step to changing

    patterns is recognizing

    them. This requires self-

    reflection – or “zooming

    back” to see a larger

    picture.

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    best place to teach that isn’t in a

    university classroom.”

    “You could teach people in the

    classroom about the W.L. Gore culture,

    but until they’ve actually worked in it

    and lived in it for a year, are they really

    going to understand it at a gut level? It’s

    hard because being told something

    doesn’t change our belief systems, our

    conceptual frameworks. It’s actually

    experiencing it repeatedly that drives

    the shift in our beliefs.”

    In other words, the explicit content of a

    class becomes less important than the

    tacit experience of the learning process.

    What’s internalized isn’t so much what’s

    said, isn’t so much the powerpoint, but

    is more what happens at a gut level.

    “It’s not enough to just take the two-

    week long trip to Asia to meet people or

    to have the six-week project in Europe

    or in Silicon Valley. In order to change

    people’s deeply rooted belief systems,

    you’re talking at least a year or two

    immersed in a different culture on a

    daily basis. With that amount of time it’s

    amazing what people can learn. In my

    book I talk about the Delancey Street

    program in San Francisco, which takes

    criminals, drug-addicted felons, coming

    out of the state prisons, and in three to

    four years transforms them into sober,

    peaceful, enterprising workers. It works

    by immersing them in a culture, but

    that’s not something you can do in a

    one-semester course that meets three

    times a week."

    Deutschman’s research also applies at a

    very personal level. He’s faced the

    challenge of being stuck and then

    finding a way to change. “I struggled

    for a decade, from my 20s to 30s, with

    being very overweight. I’m not quite

    5’9” and at my peak I weighed 228

    pounds, so I was technically an obese

    person. I really had this bad health

    problem and I knew that I had to do

    something about it. I struggled and

    failed for a decade.

    “I had been successful at all the other

    things I had done in my life. I’d done

    well in school and had a thriving career

    in a very competitive field. I felt like an

    accomplished, successful person, yet I

    had this one area where it was clear that

    I needed to change. I just continually

    struggled and failed to change; I came

    “In order to change

    people’s deeply

    rooted belief

    systems, you’re

    talking at least a year

    or two immersed in a

    different culture on a

    daily basis. With that

    amount of time it’s

    amazing what people

    can learn.”

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    close to believing that’s just the way

    that I was.

    “When I lived in New York I was writing a

    column for GQ magazine and they paid

    for me to work with one of the most

    expensive, prestigious personal trainers

    in New York at the Equinox chain of

    gyms, which was the very hot chain of

    gyms at the time. I was supposed to

    work out everyday with the top trainer

    and I wound up gaining weight from the

    experience.

    “When I moved to San Francisco I

    accidentally found a trainer who I

    formed a strong relationship with. She

    communicated a strong conviction that I

    could change and I would change. This

    emotional link to her gave me hope and

    she was able to help me learn a whole

    different way of approaching my

    lifestyle. So it was a matter of really

    finding the right person who could help

    me learn. I wound up losing 40 pounds

    from the experience and keeping it off.”

    Deutschman’s personal experience

    frames change in a new way: Rather

    than seeking a solution, change is about

    learning. Who do you trust to teach

    you? What is it about these trustworthy

    teachers that you can emulate? Perhaps

    the whole notion of “leading change”

    should be reformatted to “teaching

    change.” If you are a leader and you

    want people to change, are you an

    effective teacher? Are you building a

    relationship where learning can occur?

    Change is about

    learning and trust.

    Who do you trust

    to teach you?

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    Given the challenges of change, and

    how easily it seems individuals and

    organizations get stuck, Deutschman

    offers this hope: “I though that if I can

    do this then there’s hope for everyone

    to change. So in the book I talk about

    the hardest cases. Heroin-addicted

    criminals. People whose arteries are

    almost completely clogged from heart

    disease. The auto plants that GM

    considered the worst plants with the

    most unmanageable workers. Even in

    these toughest cases where some might

    dismiss the possibility, profound change

    is possible.”

    We’re made to change, Deutschman

    says, because humans are great at

    learning. It starts with a relationship:

    “We can change but we need to learn

    from other people. We need first to

    start with their belief and conviction in

    us. We start with an emotional bond

    knowing they believe in us. Then we

    need to learn from them.” In addition to

    the right relationship, learning takes a

    kind of humility and the emotional

    safety to fail and start again. “We have

    to keep becoming beginners and going

    through the process of learning again.

    Yes it’s frustrating, but it’s worth it.”

    In an 18-year career as a writer, Alan Deutschman has been the Silicon Valley

    correspondent for Fortune and a contributing editor at Vanity Fair, GQ, and New

    York Magazine. He is currently a senior writer for Fast Company. His web site is

    http://www.alandeutschman.com/ His new book is Change or Die: The Three

    Keys to Change at Work and in Life (Regan Books, 2007).

    Joshua Freedman is the author of INSIDE CHANGE: Transforming Your

    Organization With Emotional Intelligence (www.insidechange.net). He is Chief

    Operating Officer of Six Seconds, The Emotional Intelligence Network

    (www.6seconds.org), world leaders in developing emotional intelligence to

    improve performance. His website is www.jmfreedman.com