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8/8/2019 3G Courses Discussion

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Zeeshh says:heh hiyannbrabant says:Hi ZeeshhZeeshh says:how u doing manyannbrabant says:

not bad and yourselfyannbrabant says:you were asking about training sessionsyannbrabant says:do you have experienceZeeshh says:well I have delivered many inhouse presentations on diverse range of topics......Zeeshh says:Also I am a certified Qualcomm 3G engineerZeeshh says:And very soon I will be getting Qualcom Trainer Certification for 3G

Zeeshh says:I think I will be the 2nd person in PK to get that..Zeeshh says:Then I will be conducted 3G courses on behalf of QCyannbrabant says:do you have your own coursesyannbrabant says:our training sessions are 1 or 2 weeks lenghtZeeshh says:Well no...i will be teaching Qualcom coursesyannbrabant says:location is Kuala LumpurZeeshh says:

But if you want...I can develop my own courses....as I have lot ofZeeshh says:material from Ericsson, NOKIAZeeshh says:Huawei and Qualcom on 3Gyannbrabant says:are you availableZeeshh says:hmmm....Zeeshh says:I am looking for some international roleyannbrabant says:

or whenyannbrabant says:where would you like to workZeeshh says:can you please elaborate about your company and this particular roleyannbrabant says:and what passport are you holdingZeeshh says:Well i am from PKyannbrabant says:we have training sessions all over the yeayannbrabant says:in Asia or Middle East

Zeeshh says:okyannbrabant says:



sessions are 1 or 2 weeks lenghtyannbrabant says:abd we require our trainer to provide non only courses but as well interactivitywith the studentsZeeshh says:thats no problem with me.....Zeeshh says:

whats your firm nameZeeshh says:and what are your clients normallyyannbrabant says:zion telecom consultingZeeshh says:based in???yannbrabant says:we also provide to our clients remote workyannbrabant says:we are based in franceyannbrabant says:

french west indiesZeeshh says:ok.....Zeeshh says:so what sort of courses you offer to your clientsZeeshh says:and are your clients mostly operators....yannbrabant says:3G optimisationyannbrabant says:2G planning and optimisationyannbrabant says:EDGE planning and optimisation

yannbrabant says:SS7yannbrabant says:and a lot moreZeeshh says:hmmm......yannbrabant says:technically, our trainer provide their own courses and slidesyannbrabant says:and according to your skills, our client will request your trainingZeeshh says:Well I have experience of CDMA, UMTS and GSMZeeshh says:over 4 years experience...yannbrabant says:some are well famous, some dontyannbrabant says:experience and teaching are slightly differentZeeshh says:I know ....i knowyannbrabant says:maybe we could try one or two sessions and you will see how it goesZeeshh says:but you know....for teaching if you have relevant experience.......than....you will have more confidence in what you are saying

yannbrabant says:if the client satisfied, we can go furtherZeeshh says:



and I know for teaching, be interactiveZeeshh says:is very important.....And I have as such no problem with that.....yannbrabant says:whta is relevent experience ? our trainer have minimum 10 years expertiseyannbrabant says:+ minimum 3 years of teaching

Zeeshh says:Thats why I will be giving teaching test to Qualcom people and hopefully I willbe certified as Qualcom 3G traineryannbrabant says:ok, if by the time you would like to go on a Junior trainer role with us, do nothesitateZeeshh says:Ok what we can do...is I can prepare a small presentation on UMTS RRMZeeshh says:and present to you guys online may be using skypeyannbrabant says:ok, and let me find out if i can get

yannbrabant says:a little session, if you are interestedyannbrabant says:we pay accomodation, transportationyannbrabant says:and a per day fee to our traineryannbrabant says:where are you based ,yannbrabant says:i also have more contracts role, all depend where you would like to workZeeshh says:hmmm...Well i am based in Pakistan....Zeeshh says:

tell me....Zeeshh says:what is the duration of your contract rolesyannbrabant says:would you like to work in Pakistanyannbrabant says:6 monthsZeeshh says:You know what.....Zeeshh says:by the end of this year.....We will be having 3G licence auction here in PKZeeshh says:Thats why I have dont Qualcom trainings coz I know there is lot of demand in themarket about knowing 3GZeeshh says:Recently a training was organized by some firm on 3G andZeeshh says:they got more than 500 responses and they hav to short list the trainees......Zeeshh says:i dont remmebr the name of the company...Zeeshh says:Actually market here in PK is sort of saturated for engineers....Zeeshh says:We have implemented all the GSM/GPRS/EDGE features.....nothing new.....for a plane GSM guy

Zeeshh says:So any opportunity where he can improve uppon his skill will be welcomed openheartedly...



Zeeshh says:this is my take on the telecom scene in PK and ....potential for 3G services/training/consultancyZeeshh says:is huge.....Zeeshh says:We are expected 4 UMTS licences..

Zeeshh says:u there...yannbrabant says:ok, let me know when you readyyannbrabant says:i have many offersZeeshh says:Well actually I am currently holding a permenant position here with employerZeeshh says:If I get a contract of 6months lets say then how much I be paid. say monthlyyannbrabant says:7000 to 8000 US/month

yannbrabant says:depending on the feedbackyannbrabant says:with Ericsson it is a little bit cheaperZeeshh says:And this amount is exlusive of flights, hotelyannbrabant says:you get the flightyannbrabant says:accomodation needs to be discussedyannbrabant says:usually Ericsson provides accomodationZeeshh says:

Your major client is Ericssonyannbrabant says:yesZeeshh says:What about NOKIA???yannbrabant says:not in Pakistanyannbrabant says:mostly EuropeZeeshh says:You have some rep here in PKyannbrabant says:rep ?Zeeshh says:rep mean representation in PKZeeshh says:Any body working for you in PKyannbrabant says:not right nowyannbrabant says:i have received some job offersyannbrabant says:from clientsZeeshh says:ok.....so you think I be better suited here in PK.....

Zeeshh says:or u suggesting some other marketyannbrabant says:



no matter but Visa for Europe are hard to getZeeshh says:Yeh I know.....yannbrabant says:ASIA might be easier for youyannbrabant says:any country in ASIA you would like to work

Zeeshh says:So which exact locations are like you HOT SPOT Targets as far as 3G is concernedZeeshh says:Well for me working here in PK is bestZeeshh says:because I think this is the right time to cash inyannbrabant says:Malaysia, SingaporeZeeshh says:as there are no places in PK that offer 3 courses..Zeeshh says:3G courses

Zeeshh says:ok man what is your website???Zeeshh says:I couldnot find it in googleyannbrabant says:http://www.geocities.com/yannbrabant99/Zeeshh says:Ok man....so tell me....How to go about things now....Zeeshh says:I mean if I want to join you.....guys....what you expect from me.....Zeeshh says:Will you interview me to get the sense of my 3G knowhowyannbrabant says:

let me find out something for youyannbrabant says:and let me know if you interestedZeeshh says:ok.....yannbrabant says:theb problem is you are in permanent positionyannbrabant says:so you have notice period timeZeeshh says:Well its not a problem here in PK...Zeeshh says:You can do away....with things....Plus I have a cooperative Manager.....Zeeshh says:NOTICE PERIOD is not a worry at all....Zeeshh says:If I get Visa today....I can be with you guys in 2 weeks..yannbrabant says:where would you like to work ?yannbrabant says:do you like Middle eastyannbrabant says:dubaiZeeshh says:YEs......

Zeeshh says:Dubai is good...Zeeshh says:



no problem in Dubai.....yannbrabant says:ok let me find out, i'll tell you wednesdayZeeshh says:Let me make few things clear....Zeeshh says:The contract duration has to be 1year

yannbrabant says:have you worked on GSM ?Zeeshh says:that would be my preference...Zeeshh says:Well I have worked on GSM...but never touched it backZeeshh says:since last 2.5yearsyannbrabant says:i dont have 1 year contractZeeshh says:But GSM/GPRS/EDGE is not a problem for me at all

yannbrabant says:max is 6 months with extensionZeeshh says:but its like I feel more at home in 3G...yannbrabant says:ok have you worked on AMR ?Zeeshh says:no at that time when I left GSM, no operator in PK have implemted AMR..there were not many handsets....Zeeshh says:But teaching AMR is not a problem... I have experience of HRyannbrabant says:and what do you think of HR ?

Zeeshh says:Well double the connections, half the interference generated, fixed coding unlike AMR, Phase 2MS only support it, due to bad voice quality not used in assignment but as congestion relief alternative for FR to HR reconfigZeeshh says:But HR has more penetration as compared to AMRZeeshh says:due to early introduction into the standardZeeshh says:In std its called GSM Half Rate (22064)Zeeshh says:But we can enable both of them....at same timeyannbrabant says:what parameters have you used for AMRyannbrabant says:or HRZeeshh says:You know the selection of AMR or GSM will be dependent upon the MSC preferences(indicated in the Channel Type element of the Assignment Request or Handover Request messages) and the capabilities of the chosen CICZeeshh says:hmm parameters....yannbrabant says:on Radio side not MSCZeeshh says:

for HR we have Congestion threshold for hr usage, Force hr usage , Reserved TS,then some para related to intracell FR to HR call reconfig....Zeeshh says:



Regarding AMR the most obvious para areyannbrabant says:no matter, have you worked with E// 3G products ?Zeeshh says:Codec mode, ACS, Diff threshold and Hysterisis etcZeeshh says:Well no But i have ALEX libraries for 3G R6

Zeeshh says:I actually have very sound knowledge of MOTO/HUAWEI 3G.....but if asked....I canread about Ericsson 3G as wellyannbrabant says:what RAN versionyannbrabant says:ok so Motorola and Huaweiiyannbrabant says:in 3GZeeshh says:Ericsson WCDMA RAN (CXS 101 06/4 R6B)yannbrabant says:

we are now in P5Zeeshh says:ok......Zeeshh says:But do you offer UTRAN HW courses...Zeeshh says:or general RF optimization Courses...yannbrabant says:everything the client interested inZeeshh says:Because if you are asking for former courses then I think I have to be trained in that vendor eqpt...Zeeshh says:

Later courses is not a problem....yannbrabant says:thats why our consultant generates their own courses and we propose them to clientsyannbrabant says:you can offer your own courseZeeshh says:3G network designing, RF optimization practices, Drive Testing and analysis....KPI defination/validationZeeshh says:hmmmm.........Zeeshh says:I wont mind that......Zeeshh says:But now what you expect from me....Should I be working on producing...some PLNG/OPT courses...yannbrabant says:send me soe offers with courses on 5 daysyannbrabant says:that will be advertised and sent to our clientZeeshh says:Ok....No problem .....bro...Zeeshh says:I am with you on that.....But whatabout...the copy right...issues...yannbrabant says:

maybe you can focus on 3Gyannbrabant says:how much you would charge per day ?



Zeeshh says:I mean how can I know that....the courses that I have prepared will not be reproduced by any oneyannbrabant says:no, for triningyannbrabant says:training

yannbrabant says:it is your coursesyannbrabant says:and remain yoursZeeshh says:ok......So Yann...you expect me to come up with some UMTS Planning/Optimizationcourses...that I can deliver for 5 days.....Zeeshh says:Once I have prepared them, I will send it to you...right...and then you will send it to your clients for review....Zeeshh says:If they like then I get the Contract....if not....then what will happen to the c

ourses that I have worked so hard for..Zeeshh says:Will I be compensated in any way...Zeeshh says:.....Zeeshh says:u there YANNyannbrabant says:busy nowyannbrabant says:let me find some trining for youyannbrabant says:wednesday we can talk

Zeeshh says:ok man....you can call me up on my Cell #....and we can talk abt your proposalZeeshh says:Ok man....See you then...Zeeshh says:Take CareZeeshh says:BYE....yannbrabant says:yes send me just the scopeyannbrabant says:the main lines of your coursesZeeshh says:Well I actually have toyannbrabant says:dont make all the coursesZeeshh says:prepare the courses.....Zeeshh says:from scratch...yannbrabant says:yes but i only need the main scopeZeeshh says:ok no problem.....SCOPE is fine....Zeeshh says:

Also can you share some 3G reference doc ......Zeeshh says:Do u already hav some UMTS material edocs



Zeeshh says:Heh man you look really busy.....no prob....TALK to you then on WED

yannbrabant says:u nhave skype ?

Zeeshh says:yesyannbrabant says:today i busy but we can try it tomorrowZeeshh says:whats ur IDyannbrabant says:for the file, you can send it to [email protected] says:skype is "ziontelecom"Zeeshh says:I have sent it to your hotmail address

yannbrabant says:thnaks manZeeshh says:Also man can you send me Training material by your company so that I know whichpattern to followyannbrabant says:okyannbrabant says:best thing to do, send me scope of courses firstyannbrabant says:we advertise it on internetyannbrabant says:and see if people are registering

Zeeshh says:but you website is very limited..Zeeshh says:You should hav some .com website....Zeeshh says:And how would people know that you have somehting to offeryannbrabant says:not my websiteyannbrabant says:my client's websiteZeeshh says:Man how long you have been running this companyZeeshh says:And how many employees you haveZeeshh says:worldwide(permenant+contract)yannbrabant says:i dont have employees, i have contractorsyannbrabant says:around 20yannbrabant says:only expertZeeshh says:Do they work full time or part timeyannbrabant says:

only part timeyannbrabant says:contract after contract



yannbrabant says:if they want to stop no problemZeeshh says:Let me make this think clear.....Zeeshh says:If I were to be selected by you people to conduct courses anywhere in the world....lets say 3G courses..

Zeeshh says:Then.....it will not be full time job.....Zeeshh says:I can still continue with other company and when requirement arrisesZeeshh says:I will move and deliver training.....yannbrabant says:of courseyannbrabant says:my company does not act like other companiesyannbrabant says:our employee are free to work for other clients

Zeeshh says:And you will pay me monthly....even if during that month I have no training to offeryannbrabant says:ONLY ONE THING, you can not work directly for my client, i need that clear as well on my sideyannbrabant says:i pay only in dutyyannbrabant says:per training dayyannbrabant says:thats why you can work for other companies as wellZeeshh says:

But yesterday you were telling me about paying monthy 7000~8000 USDyannbrabant says:on a contractyannbrabant says:man, what you would like to do ?yannbrabant says:6 months on a contract on a projectyannbrabant says:or training time to time, 5 daysyannbrabant says:you cant do bothyannbrabant says:i can find a project full time for 6 monthsyannbrabant says:or training but right now, i need scope from youZeeshh says:I got you man.....Zeeshh says:I was lil confused ......yannbrabant says:okZeeshh says:No problem......Scope I will forward it to you may be by the end of this week.....I will try my best....yannbrabant says:

best thing to do is that everything clearyannbrabant says:ok, and if you want to work on contracts, i can let you know some offers tomorro



wZeeshh says:Ok....I will welcom that .....as well....Zeeshh says:If you can work out few options for Training and few options for Contract.....itwill help me in making up my mind.........yannbrabant says:

do you have experience in leading teams ,Zeeshh says:I am RF specialist here with 10 engineers working directly under meZeeshh says:and few other workign indirectlZeeshh says:E may, vao day coi co con nho nay ngon lam http://nhattruongquang.0catch.comZeeshh says: Zeeshh says:ignore last msgyannbrabant says:

meaningZeeshh says:no actally it was a spam..Zeeshh says:Dont click on this link......Zeeshh says:I also did it....And i got infected...Zeeshh says:Wait let me run my SPAM DOCTERZeeshh says:no need to worry nowZeeshh says:Yeh coming back to what yo asked...

Zeeshh says:I have been managing few engineersZeeshh says:u thereyannbrabant says:yepZeeshh says:so you also provide Technical consultancy to your clientZeeshh says:heh man....hav u recievedZeeshh says:the doc

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