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Episode166:UnderstandingAutoimmunityandtheMind/BodyConnectionWithBodyBelief

AuthorAimeeRaupp


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Katie:Hello,andwelcometo,"TheHealthyMomsPodcast."I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com.AndIamheretodaywithAimeeRaupp,whoisarenownedwomen'shealthandwellnessexpert.She'stheauthorofthreebooks,"ChillOutandGetHealthy,""Yes,YouCanGetPregnant,"and"BodyBelief"ishermostrecentbookandwhatIwanttotalkabouttoday.She'salicensedacupuncturistandherbalistinprivatepracticeinNewYork.SheholdsaMasterofSciencedegreeinTraditionalOrientalMedicinefromthePacificCollegeofOrientalMedicine.Andwearegoingtoreallydelveintoautoimmunityanditsroots,andespeciallythemind-bodyconnectiontoday,becauseIfeellikethatisakeythat'ssohardforsomanypeopletoconquer.So,Aimee,welcomeandthanksforbeinghere.Aimee:Thankyousomuch,Katie.I'msohappytobehere.Katie:I'msohappytohaveyouhere.AndIlovetoalwaysstartwiththebasics.Mylistenersarereallyeducated,andtypicallytheyknowalotaboutagiventopic.Butsincewe'regoingtogodeeponafewtopics,Iwanttojuststartwith,canyoudefinewhatautoimmunityisandkindofwhat'sphysiologicallyhappeninginthatprocess?Aimee:Sure.So,autoimmunityiswhenthebodybeginsattackingitsowntissuesforunknownreasons.Acommonexampleisthethyroid.That'soneofthemostcommonautoimmuneconditions,whichiscalledHashimoto's,right?So,somethinglike90%ofhypothyroidcasesareactuallyHashimoto'swherethebodyhas,


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for,"unknownreasons,"hasbegunattackingitsownthyroidandcreatesantibodiestoit,andthenthatcompromisesthefunctionofthatorganoroftissue.So,wecanhaveautoimmunitytoourthyroid,youknow,weseeitsometimesinpolycysticovariansyndrome.Wecanseeautoimmunitytowardsourovaries.Wecanseeittowardsourjointsinrheumatoidarthritis,towardsskininpsoriaticarthritis.So,autoimmunityis...youknow,thewayIseeitisthebody'sonhighalertandattackingitself.So,there'salotofinflammationandhostilityinthebody.Andagain,forunknownreasons,andthenthatsetsoffawholecascadeofjustchaoswithinthebody.Katie:Gotit.So,I'mcuriousbecauseIam...so,youmentionedHashimoto's,whichiswhatI'vestruggledwithformany,manyyears.AndIknowmanyofmylistenershavestruggledwitheitherthatoranotherformofautoimmunedisease.I'mcuriousifthishasbeenapersonalstruggleforyouaswellormorefromthepractitionerside.You'vejustaddressedthisquiteabit.Aimee:Well,both.So,Ihaveeczemaandasthma,whichareboth...youknow,asthmawasn'talwaysconsideredanautoimmunecondition,butnowisconsideredone.There'salotthatareallofasudden,youknow,likeendometriosisisacommononenow,andevenPCOS,peopleareonthefenceabout,butithascharacteristics.So,eczema,though,isatelltalethatthere'ssomeautoimmunitygoingoninthebody.AndI'vebeenalong-timeeczemasufferermywholelife.Now,it'snotthemost,youknow,Ithinkprohibitingautoimmunity,butitwouldsetthecascade.HadInotbeencontrollingit,IthinkwhereIwouldhaveheaded,likemostwomen,isintoHashimoto's.So,youknow,youcanbeonthisspectrumwhereyouhavesomeautoimmunityandthenitcantriggerotherautoimmunity.ButIseeitalotclinically.Iwrotemysecondbook,"Yes,YouCanGetPregnant,"anditwasallaboutfertility.AndwhatIrealizedintheresearchwasthat,youknow,mostofthesewomenwalkingaroundwithunexplainedfertilitychallengesareactuallydealingwithamisdiagnosed,undiagnosed,ormismanaged,oralloftheaboveautoimmunecondition.Andthat'swhatledmetowriting"BodyBelief,"becausewhenyoudotheresearch,andyouknowbecauseyouyourselfareoneofthem,Imean,autoimmunityisaffecting30millionAmericanwomen.Andthat'sjusttheonesthatarediagnosed.So,asaclinicianwith15yearsofpatientcare,Iseeautoimmunityimpactinglivesallthetime.Andthenmyself,ofcourse,I'vereallylearnedhowtomanagemyownandnotallowittoprogressintoanythingworse.Katie:Andthat'ssuchanimportantkeybecauseyouoften,atleastclinically,youdon'tseeautoimmunediseaseinisolation.It'sactuallyagreatthing.Youkeepitinisolationbecause,likeyousaid,it'snotadiseasethat'scausedby,forinstance,likestrepthroat.It'scausedbyaspecificbacteria,there'snotthatconnection.It'sthebodyhavinganinternalreactiontoitself,andtherecanbemanypotentialreasons.So,Idefinitelyhavemytheories,butI'mreallycurious,whatdoyouthinkaresomeofthecontributingfactorstothisriseinautoimmunediseases,that’sevenaffectingchildrenatreallydrasticrates?Aimee:Well,so,fromtheWesternmedicalperspectiveorthecurrentscientificresearch,youknow,autoimmunityisontherise.It'sinthelast30yearshasquadrupledandit'sincidenceaffectingwomen75%morethanmen.Andwomenintheirprime,butyes,it'sallthewaydowntochildrenatthisstage.So,ourgenesdon'tchangethatfast.So,itcannotbeourgenetics.Ithastobeenvironmentalinfluences,mostlikelythefactthatwe'veintroduced80,000to100,000chemicalsintoourenvironmentsincethe1980s.So,that'swheretheWesternviewpointseesit.


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Myperspectiveisalittledifferent,youknow,withatrainingintraditionalChinesemedicineandbeinganacupuncturistandanherbalist,I'malsotaughttolookattheemotionalsideofdisease.So,wesaythatanydisease,illness,disharmonyinthebody,there'saphysicalcomponent,butthere'salsoanemotionalcomponent.AndwhatIseeclinicallyisthatmostwomeninoursociety...andautoimmunityisaffectingwomenintheirprime,their20s,30s,and40s.Imean,it'saffectingwomen,obviously,beyond40,butitstartedprobablyintheir20sor30s,andmaybethesymptomsdidn'treallypresentthemselvesloudlyenoughuntiltheyhittheir50s.Butthatwomenarereallyhardonthemselves,womenareattackingthemselves,andthey'renotgoodenough.They'renotachievingenough.Andsoif...youknow,inChinesemedicine,we'llstepbackandsay,"Okay,soifthebody'sattackingitselfonthiscellularlevel,onthisphysicallevel,whereonanemotionallevelareyouattackingyourself?"Andthatlendsitselftothesamelevelofhostilityandinflammation,youknow,it'sjustcomingfromanemotionalspaceversusonlyfromanenvironmental,oranutritional,orphysicalspace.So,tome...andthat'swhyIwrote,"BodyBelief,"youknow,thefirsttwopiecesof,"BodyBelief"arereallyabouttheemotional,spiritualreconnectingtoyourselfandshiftingyourbeliefsaboutyourbody.Andthen,ofcourse,there'sawholedietandlifestyleplanintheretoreallytameinflammation.Butuntilweworkontheemotionalpiece,Idon'tthinkitsetsthestageforradicalhealingthewaywearecapableofwithdealingwithautoimmunity.So,yeah,Ithinkthere'smanylayersandIdon'tthink,iftosay,thatanyone'stoblamethattheirthoughtsarecreatingtheirautoimmunity,butthatIdon'tthinkwe'resupportingourselvesinallthewaysthatwecouldbeonanemotionallevel.Katie:Iwouldagreewithyou.Andthat'sbeen,probablyforme,thehardestpartofmyownjourneytogetto,becauseI'mverytypeA,andmybackgroundisinresearchandjournalism.So,mydefaultistoresearchmywayintofixingaproblem.Andso,IfeellikeIhavedonethat,Ihavegonedeeponeveryphysicalpossibilityofthingsthatcanhelpautoimmunityandreducinginflammationand,ofcourse,thefactorsthatweallknow,likeyouneedtogetenoughsleepandyouneedtogetsunshine,andallthosethings.ButIthinkbecauseemotionsareinvisible,likeit'shardsometimestorealizejusthowprofoundlytheyimpactus.So,canyoulikeexplainsomeoftheexamplesyou'veseenofthisinwomen.AndI'mhappytosharemyexperienceaswell.Ijustknow,like,foryears,Iwouldkindofputonagameface,andbelike,"Icanpushthroughthis,Iwilljustfightharder.Iwilldomorethings."Andit'sbeenalessoninthelastcoupleofyearstorealizeIactuallyhavetoletgoandtogivemyselfthesameloveandforgivenessthatIgivetofriendsandfamilysoeasily.Butthatseemstobesuchthebigstruggle.So,I'mcuriouswhat...specificallywithinthis,themind-bodyconnection,whatkindofthingsareyouseeingwomencometoyouwithandwhataretheystrugglingthrough?Aimee:Well,again,there'ssomanylayerstoit,butIagree.Mostwomendoreallywell.Theywantmetojustgivethem,youknow,whatdiettofollowandwhatsupplementstotake,andchecktheboxes.Andthen,often,it's,"Well,I'mdoingallthosethingsandit'sstillnotworking."Andso,youknow,IthinkIsawthatenoughovertheyearsthatIbegantorealize,"Okay,wehavetounpacktheemotionalspaceaswell."AndwhatIseeandwhatIhearof,youknow,andthrougheverythingthatI'mexposedtoandallthewomenIdealwithis,isthereisnoself-compassion,there'sverylittlekindnesstothemselves.There'sverylittleflexibility.There'sverylittleunderstanding.IsaiditinmyfirstbookwhenIwroteitin2009,andIsaid,"Ifyouwouldn'tsayittoyourbestfriendthatway,youshouldn'tsayittoyourselfthatway."So,it'sjustturningonourfilter,again,andhearingwhatistheconversationthatwe'rehavingintheprivacyofourownminds?And


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areyoucheeringyourselfonorareyoubeatingyourselfup?Because,again,ifwe'resteppingbackandsaying,"Okay,it'senvironmentaltoxins,andit'sinflammation,youknow,inthebody."So,sure,thosearephysicalthings,butthencanemotionsbetoxicandcanemotionsbeinflammatory?Andso,howareyoutalkingtoyourselfonaregularbasis?AndIcanalreadytellwithyouthatthattype-Apersonality,I'mtotallythesameway.Andmystoryalwaysis,"It'snotgoodenough.You'renotdoingit,youknow,you'renotworkinghardenough.You'renottryinghardenough."Andthat'sthetypicalpersonalitythatseemstowindupwithautoimmunity.Now,that's,ofcourse,ageneralization,butwetendtoseethatthesetype-Asthatarereallyhardonthemselvesandnothingreallyisgoodenough.So,theyaretheonesthatsetthestage,youknow,thatconversationthatthey'rehavingintheprivacyoftheirownmindsets,thatstageforthatreally,youknow,intenseinflammatoryreactionthatlendsitselftowardsautoimmunity.So,theworkIdidwriting,"BodyBelief"andwhatIseeintheclinicallthetimeisIjusttrytogetwomenandmen...youknow,Itreatmen,Itreatchildren,Itreatmoms,andItreateveryone,butjustcanyousayitbetter?Howcanyousayitbettertoyourself?Andin,"BodyBelief,"Igooversomereallycommonbeliefsofthingslike,"Oh,I'mtooold,what'sthepoint?"Or,"Oh,it'smygenetics."Iteachyoutoquestionallofthesebeliefsthatwewereeitherborninto,havebecomeingrained.It's,youknow,beliefismyteacher.I'mabigAbraham-Hickspersonandshealwayssays,"Abeliefisjustathoughtyoukeepthinking,"andyoucanthinkthatthoughtintoreality.Andthenthere'sneuroscienceresearchtosupportthat.Butwhatbeliefsareyouwalkingaroundholdingandrepeatingtoyourselfallthetime?AndIbelieve...thisismybelief,butattherootofit,there'sworthinessissues.Youdon'tbelievethatyou'reworthyoftheradicalhealingorthatyoudon'tbelievethatyourbodycanheal.Youdon'tbelieveyouhavethegoods.Youdon'tbelieveyouweregiventherightgenesor,"Oh,it's..."youknow,nobodyreallyfeelsthatgood.It'sthesebasic,limitingbeliefsthatwe'rewalkingaroundwiththatarereallylimitingusbecauseourbeliefsdictateourbehaviors,whichthenultimatelydictatesourhealth.Andso,ifwe'renotinsupportofourbodyorinsupportofourchoices,insupportofourhealth,insupportof,youknow,whenwelookinthemirrorandseewhoweare,arewecheeringourselvesonorsayingsomethingterribletoourselves?That'sabigculprit.Imean,Istruggledwitheatingdisordersinthepastandbodydysmorphicissues,anditreallysetsthestageforsomemajorinflammatoryreactionsthroughoutthebodyonaphysiologicalandcellularlevel.So,inthereis,tome,thecruxofthehealing,iswherewehavetolearntopracticeself-love.AndIknowit'scliché,butitiskey:kindness,compassion,patiencewithourselves,andjusttakeastepback.OnethingthatIsaytomyselfallthetimeandItryisIjustremindmyselfI'mdoingthebestIcando,youknow,andI'mshowingupeverydayandI'mdoingthebestIcando.Andthatsoothesme.So,that'swhatIwouldloveforwomen,istobegintosaykinder,moresoothingthingstothemselvesintheprivacyoftheirownmind.Andthatwouldcalmtheinflammation.Katie:Yeah.It'sbeeninterestingformetosee,inthelastcoupleofyears,bothinmyownlifeandalsojustinreadingandresearchingbecause,likeIsaid,it'seasytodiscountthatmind-bodyconnectionandhowtrulyimportantourthoughtsaretoourwholelife.Butyouseethisinespeciallylikepeoplewithterminaldiseasesorpeoplefacingvery,verytoughthings,whoshifttheirmindsetandhavethisspontaneousremissionwheretheyheal.Andit's,like,thingslikethatshouldalertustothefactthat,yes,obviously,diet'simportant.My


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background'salsoinnutrition.Iwillneverdiscounttheroleofdiet.But,certainlyourmindis,Iwouldsay,equallypowerful.Andthatwasaverytoughplaceformetoget,butalso,evenmoreso,especiallyfortype-Aslikeyoumentioned,webothare.Ithinkit'seasytofallinthetrapof,like,"Oh,darn.Okay.So,mymindiscausingalltheseproblemsandnowit'sonemorethingonmyto-dolistthatIhavetofix,"andtogetintothatviciouscycle.AndIfeellikethat'soneofthefewareaswhereit'ssohard.Liketype-Awomencanbelike,"Okay,nosugar?Done."Or,"I'mgoingtoexercise.Done."Butlearningthatseemstobeoneofthetougheststeps.So,doyouhaveanylikepracticaltacticsortipsthatyouworkthroughwithwomentokindofgeteventothatstartingpoint?Aimee:Yes.So,it'smappedoutinthebooktoo.Ibrokeitupintopillars.So,pillarnumberone,andthemostimportantpillar,isreconnectingtoyourself.Andso,youknow,Ithinkwetypicallyhearaboutthatasmeditationorjournaling.Andintoday'sworld,everybody'stellingustomeditate,butIthinkitcanbe...Imean,IthinkmeditationisextremelypowerfulandItrytodoiteveryday.ButIthinkitcanbesimplerthanthat.Canwejustbeginto,likeIwassayingearlier,filter.Canwebegintoheartheconversationthatwe'rehavingintheprivacyofourownmind?Canwelive,notjustinourmind,butinourbodyaswell?Canwebegintosay,youknow,"Oh,IdonoticethatwhenIdo,youknow,X,likemaybeskipbreakfast,"right,ifwegotothenutritionsideandI,youknow,"Ifeellikecrapat3:00intheafternoon."Andthen,"I'mhardonmyselfbecausethenImakebadchoiceswithmyfoodandthenIbeatmyselfupbecauseIatethatsugarysnackandIknowIshouldn'thaveeatenit."Andit'sthis,like,cascades.Butwearereallygoodatcompartmentalizingandseparating.So,we'redisconnectedfromourselves.Andso,thefirststepisjustbeginningtoliveinyourbodyandhearthatconversation,buthearalsowhatyourbodyistellingyoueveryday.Becauseyourbody'sgivingyoucuesalldaylongaboutthingsthatworkforitanddon'tworkforit.Andwe'reprettygoodatignoringthosecues.So,oneofmyfavorite,Icallitinstantreconnect,oneofmyfavoritetoolsiswhenI'minmyheadracing,youknow,doingamillionthings,notdoingthemgoodenoughbecauseI'mbeinghardonmyself,youknow,andI'mthinkingaboutdinnerwhenit's8:00inthemorning,or,youknowwhatImean.OrI'mplanningthesummervacationandit'sFebruary,Iwill,youknow,catchmyselfbecauseI'mtryingtobereconnected,andI'lljustsay,"Aimee,whereareyou?Areyourighthere?Areyouin...like,whereareyou?Areyouinyourbody?"Andjustthatsimplequestion,"Whereareyou,"bringsmebacktomybody.Itslowsdownmymind.Itremindsme,"Okay,youknow,I'mrighthererightnowtalkingwithKatieaboutX.AndhereIam,hereIam."Anditallowsustojustbecomepresentagaininourbody,whichisthefirstandmostimportantstuffbecauseuntilwereconnect,wedon'tevenknowwhatourbodyissayingtousorspeakingbacktousaboutthechoiceswe'vemade,whetheritwas,youknow,notsleepingenoughthenightbeforeorskippingbreakfastor,youknow,havingcoffeeonanemptystomach,oranyofthesethings.Oreven,arewestillholdingalotoftensioninourbodyfromtheconversationwehadwithourpartnerthenightbefore,ortheinteractionwehadwithourbossearlierthatweek.Arewestillbeatingourselvesupforsomethingwedid10yearsagothatwehaven'trecoveredfrom,orwhateveritis.Butuntilyoureconnect,youcan'tquiteunderstandwheretheattacksarecomingfrom,whatthey'rerootedin,andthenhowtobegintoshiftthem.Katie:Yeah,exactly.And,likeyousaid,Ithinkthatitis.It'sdefinitelyaslowprocess.Wehavetolearntotrustourselvesandtomovethroughthat.AndIknowformebecause...likemydefaultinstinctwasjusttotryto...so,likeIsaid,topushthroughandtoignoreit.Andforme,itwasaprocessof,likeyousaid,like,


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connectingwithwhereIwaspresently,andalsoacknowledgingandrealizingthingsinthepast,they...yourmindistheretoprotectyou.Andso,thesethingsthatwebuildupinourhead,they'rethereforareasonandtheyservedaveryimportantpurposeatsomepointinourlivesthatletusgettowhereweare.Andso,Ihadtogothroughthislongprocessoflikeseeingthosethingsthatcamefromdifferentpointsinchildhood,ortrauma,or,like,Iwassickalotasachild,whichisalsoprobablythroughmyautoimmunedisease,Ihadantibioticslike40-somethingtimes.AndIhaveliketraumaticmemoriesinvolvingthehospitalandthemedicalsystem.Andtolookbackatthosethingsandtorealizelikethatfearinmyheadandthatprotectiveness,andtothankitbecauseitservedapurpose.Itwasthereforareasonatthattime,butIdon'tneeditanymore.Andthatwaslikeabreakthroughmomentforme,wastorealizeyoudon'thavetopushthroughit.Youdon'thavetoconquerit.Sometimes,youjusthavetoacknowledgeitandtogiveititsplace,andthenletitgo.Becauselikewedotendtocarryallofthosethings.And,likeyousaid,aswomen,it'ssoeasyIfeellike,tonurtureotherpeopleandtoloveotherpeople,andourchildren,especially.Butthen,toturnthatonourselvesismaybeperhapsourgreateststruggleforalotofus.So,Ilovethatyoureallyworkthroughthatwithpeople.AndI'mcuriousifyouhaveanyexamplesthatyou'rewillingtoshareofbeliefsthatyou'vepersonallyhadtoletgooverdetoxovertheyears,aboutyourownhealthandbody,ifyou'rewillingtogetthatpersonal,justtokindofmaybeconnectwithsomelistenersonwheretheyare.Aimee:Oh,absolutely.Ilovetogetpersonal.Ithinkyousaidsomethingreallyimportant,though,thatIjustwanttohighlight,andit'spartofthepersonalstorytooof,youknow,Ihave...inthesecondpillarinthebookisallaboutrenewingourbeliefs,andIhavethistoolthatIcalltheartofshiftingourbeliefs.Andit'sacknowledge,renew,transform,ART.Butthatfirststepisthewitnessing.It'stheacknowledgementthatlike,"Oh,there'sthatthoughtagain.""Oh,there's..."Youknow,forme,it'salways...IguessIhadthisthingasakidwhereIwasreallyverydeterminedandI...youknow,mydadwouldalwayssay,itwaslike,"Aimee'swayorthehighway."Youknow,itwaslikeIwasright,nooneelsewasreallyasrightasme.Andithadtobethiswayornoway.AndIwouldbefilledwithrageifitdidn'treallygomyway.AndIhadthislikeangry,younggirlthatwouldcomeoutofme.Andinworkingwithmycoachovertheyears,shewouldsaytome,"Now,who'sreactinginthissituation?Isthattheangry,younggirloristhatthegrown,professionalwoman,who'samom,andawife,and,youknow,runningthesebusinesses?"AndIwould,"Oh,you'reright.I'mreacting."Andit'ssame,it'sthedefaultposition.Andtostarttoacknowledgethatandthentostarttohavealotofcompassionforthatyounggirl,andevenforyourselfofwhatyouwentthrough.Therewastraumasthathappened,andtherewerejolts,youknow,orcracksinourfoundationtypesofthingsthathappenedthatleftusfeelingonthedefensemostofthetime,sowewouldreactratherthan,youknow,calmlycometoasituation.Andso,I'vehadtoretrainmyselfovertheyears,youknow,someofmyspacesare,forcertain...youknow,someofmybodyimagestuffwhereI...youknow,forme,whenIbegantoseefoodasmedicine,whichwasthankful...youknow,Idealtwithaneatingdisorderbasicallythroughcollegeandintomyearlygraduateschoolyears.Anditwasrootedinnotfeelinggoodenoughandcontrol,asmosteatingdisordersare,andIwantedtocontroleverythingaroundme,includinghowIlookedandmybodyweight.AndasIbegantoloveandrespectmybody,andseefoodasnourishmentandasfuelandasawaythatIcould,youknow,bettermyhealthandfeelbetter...becauseIfeltlikecrapthewholetimeIhadtheeatingdisorder.AndIlookedlike...youknow,Ididn'tlooksogreateither.Myskinwasdry,myhairwasfallingout,mynailsweren'tgrowing,Iwasn't


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gettingaperiod.TherewassomanythingsthatwerewrongwithmyhealthandIwasmanagingmyemotionswithalcoholandexercise,youknow,justtypicalcollegeyears,Isuppose,formanywomen.AndwhenIbegantoreconnecttomyself...so,whenIstartedstudyingChinesemedicine,youknow,IwasenroutetogotomedicalschoolandIwasoutina,youknow,agreatinstitutionworkingmytailoff.Andthendecideditwasn'tforme,decidedtostudyChinesemedicineinstead.Andtheyspentthefirstyearofthattrack,youknow,you'redoingyoursciencescoursesbutyou'redoingapsychologytracktoo,andthefirstyearisallaboutpractitionerhealingthyself.Becauseuntilyouhealyourselfyoucan'thealothers.Oruntilyoureallyunderstand,youknow,therootof...howtohealyourself,howtobeintouchwithyourself.Anditwasatthatpointintimethatreallyshiftedforme,whereIbegantoreconnectandIbegantosay,"How'sthiseatingdisorderworkingoutforyou,Aim?"Imean,"How'sallthatexerciseanddrinkingworkingforyou?"Youknow,youkindoffeellikecrap.AndItellsomeofthestoriesin,"BodyBelief"aswelland,youknow,thatreconnectionwaswhathelpedmebegintoseefooddifferently,begintoseemybodydifferently.Now,Iseemybodyasthisbeautiful,incredibleMachine.Imean,it'sjust...it's,youknow,itmakesbabies.It'sphenomenal.AndIwasabletomakeababyat40and,youknow,IthinkagainstalotofwhatWesternmedicinebelieves.And,youknow,Ithink...Ialwayssay,IthinkI'mhealthiernowat43thanIwasat23,forcertain.ButthatwasthroughthereconnectingandthatwasthroughbeginningtoshiftmybeliefsandseeingthatmybodydoesworkwhenIproperlysupportit,whenIcheeriton,youknow,whenI'monthesameteamasmybody.WhenIlookinthemirrorandlikenotjustwhatIsee,butwhoIsee.And,youknow,postpartum,I,youknow,IgainedweightinpregnancyandIdidn'tloseallofmybabyweight,youknow,forawhile.Andsomeofthoselittledemoncamebackofjust,"Oh,Idon'tlikewhatIsee,"or,"You'renotgoodenough,"or,"Soandso'sskinnierthanyou,"youknow,thelittledemoncancomeback.AndthenIjusthavetogobackandremindmyself,"It'sabouthowIfeel,though,andit'sabouthowwellmybodyisfunctioning,andthatI'mdoingthebestIcando.AndI'msupportingmyself,andlovingmyself,andcheeringmyselfon."Butit's...youknow,unfortunately,it'snotaflipwecan...youknow,aswitchwecanflipinaninstant."It'swork"everydayofstayingconnectedandhearingthatconversation.Andweallfallintothenotsoeasytogetoutofrabbitholesofnegativity,buthowlongdoyoustaythereandhowquicklycanyoubegintoremindyourself,"Oh,Iwashereoncebefore,andIgotout.So,IknowIcandothatagain."Or,youknow,"Thishashappenedinmylifeandthatchanged."Or,"Isawsoandsogothroughitandshegotthroughit,soIcan,too."So,youjusttrytosoftenthosethoughtsandcheeryourselfonmorethanyou'renot.Andthat,Ithink,iswinning.Evenifwe'reinamorepositivesupportivestate60%ofthetimethanwe'renot,wherewe'redoingreallygoodforourbody,andwe'recalmingthatinflammationandcalmingthatemotionaltoxicity.Katie:Yeah,thatmakessomuchsense.

ThispodcastisbroughttoyoubyFourSigmatic.Mykitchenisalwaysstockedwiththeircoffeemushroomblends,theirMatchamix,andtheirstraightmushroomdrinks.FourSigmatichasfiguredouthowtogetthebenefitsofmushroomslikechaga,lionsmane,cordycepsandreishiintodeliciousinstantdrinks.Mycurrentfavoriteistheiradaptogencoffeeblendthathastolsiandastragalus.ButIlovealloftheirproducts.Theyhaveoptionswithorwithoutcaffeinesoifyou’renotacaffeinepersonyoucanfindproductsthatyouwilllove.AndIfindthateventheircoffeeblendsthatdocontaincaffeinehavelessthananormalcupofcoffee.


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Butdon’tletthisfoolyou.IhavefoundthatIgetsomuchmorefocusandmentalclarityfromthesemushroomblendsthanIdofromregularcoffee,andwithoutthejitters.Theadditionofthemushrooms,whichareconsiderednootropics,meaningthattheyaregoodforthebrainmakesthesesuperfoodblendsmoreeffectiveandmuchhealthierthanjustregularoldcoffee.Ilovethemwithadashofmacadamiamilkpersonally.Ialsolovethatmanyoftheirdrinkmixesareinstantandpackagedintoindividualservingssotheyareperfectfortraveloronthego.Ifyou’relisteningtothis,thenyoucangetaspecialofferjustforlistenersofthispodcastbygoingtowellnessmama.com/go/four-sigmatic.

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Katie:AndI'mcuriousifyoualsohaveanylikecommonkindofrenewedbeliefsorlikeaffirmations,orwhateveryou'dcallthem,thatseemtolikebekindofwildlyapplicablethatwomencanbenefitfrom.Aimee:So,Ihave,youknow,inthebook,Ihavesome...youknow,I'llreadsomeofthemorecommonlimitingbeliefsandthenwecan...I'llreadsomeoftherenewedbeliefs.Thingslike,"I'mtoooldtochange.I'msetinmyways.There'snohope,sowhybother.Ihavebadgenes.I'mafraidtofeelbetter.Idon'tknowwhoIamwithoutmyillness.I'mnotsureIbelievethatmybodycanhealitself.Mydoctorssaidthere'snothingtheycandotohelp."So,thosearesomerealcommononesthatIsee.AndthenIhavethisexerciseinthebookandIhadtosoftenthat,soyougotothenextsectionwhereyourenewthosethoughts.Andthingslike,"IdofeelbetterwhenItakebettercareofmyself."Ithinkmostofuscangetonthatside.Andyouknow,sothisisn't...it'snotgoingfrom,"IalwaysknewIwouldgetsick,"to,"Ohmygosh,Inevergetsickanymore."We'renotgoingfrom,youknow,blacktowhite,we'rejustgoingfromblacktoalittlegraytoalittlelessgraytoalittlelessgraytoalittlewhite.That'skindofthewayIthinkitworkswhenwe'retryingtoretrainandrewireourbrainfromtheserealabusivebeliefstothesesofter,slightlykinderbeliefs.So,"IwanttobelieveIcanbehealed.Iamreadytofeelbetter.Iknowstressaffectsmysleep,soIguessitcouldaffectmyoverallhealth.Therearealotofpeoplegoingthroughhealthchallengeslikemine.IfIreallythinkaboutit,I'mnotaloneinthisprocess.Isupposethere'snoharminmakingthedietarychangesorbeginningtotuneintomybeliefs,"right?"Doingtheemotionalworkcan'thurt."OhIlovethisone,"Iknowinmyheart,IammeanttofeelbetterthanIdonow."Andthat'sonething,youknow,IaskeverysinglenewclientIworkwith,youknow,whetherit'scoachingorintheclinic,isjust,doyoubelievethatyoucanfeelbetter?Becausetome,ifyoumadeyourwaytomeortoreadingthisbookortothispodcast,youhadhope,it'sintheresomewhere.Andso,it'saboutus,allowing...youknow,aboutyouallowingyourselftoactivatethatagainbecausemaybe


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it'sbeenbeatendownorthere'ssomuchproofthat,youknow,andagain,that,"thereshouldn'tbehope."Andyouknow,"Oh,it'sinyourgenesandeverybodyelseissickinyourfamily.So,thisisjustyourdestiny,dealwithit."That'snottrue.There'sjustsomuchwecandoto...youknow,andI'msureyou'vetalkedaboutthisonyourpodcastbefore,butthere'ssomuchwecandotoshiftourgeneticpresentation,epigeneticsis,youknow,aboomingscience,obviously.Butthere'ssomuchwecandotobringbackhopeandjuststepbystep.I'mdoingthiscourserightnowonmyBodyBeliefprogramandit'saboutrewiringthebrain.AndwhatI'mteachingisjust,"HowcanIsayitbetter?"So,say,yousaytoyourselfeveryday,"There'snohope.Whybother?"Or,"Itriedeverythingandnothingworks."That'sarealcommononeIsee.Whynotsoftenthatalittlebitandsay,"Well,haveIreallydugdeepontheemotionalpiece?No,Ihaven't.IguessIcouldtrythat."Andlike,Katie,likeyousaidearlier,therehavebeenpeoplethathadthesereallypoorprognosesandreally,reallyterriblediseasesandtheycompletelyshiftedtheirmindsetanditallturnedaround.So,thatcouldbeme.Or,"Meditationseemstoworkforalotofpeople,maybeIshouldtryit."Butjuststayinginthisspaceof,"There'snohope.Whybother?"Thenthatbeliefperpetuatessomuch.Anditshiftsyourperceptionofyourworldandthenyoujustbegintosee,"See,there'snohope,there'snohope,there'snohope."Butifyouslightlyshiftedto,"There'salittlebitofhope.Therearesomepeoplethathavemadeitthroughthisandgottentotheotherside.Therearesomepeoplethathaveimprovedandfeltbetter,"orwhateveritis,whateveryou'retryingtoachieve.So,"Icouldbeoneofthem,"right?Andthengettothisplacewhereyouthinkbacktotimesinyourlifethatthingsdidworkoutforyouandremindyourselfofthat.Andit'salmostawayofcoachingyourselfbackoutofthatdeep,darkrabbitholeandjustsaying,"Okay,Ithink,actually,thereisroomforsomehope."Andthenmaybeeachday,there'salittlemorereasonforhopeandalittlemorereasonforhope,andyoustarttoseeinyourdailylife,youknow,youcouldjustpayattentionto,"Okay,whatwaysishopebeingshowntometoday,"right?Youknow,"DidIreadordidIcomeuponthispodcastandnowI'mfeelingmoreinspired,"or,"DidIreadanarticleaboutsomeonehealingfromthisdiseaseorthisillness?"Or,youknow,"TherearepeoplethathealfromHashimoto's,andsoIcouldtoo."Andyouknow,it'sjustthatslightshift.Andeveryday,youcontinuetoworkonit,andeveryday,youcontinuetostayconnectedinyourbodyandbegin...youknow,communicatewithitandcheeryourbodyon.Andyouknow,itmightsoundreally,reallyoutthere,butyourcells,youknow,everysingleoneofthe37trillioncellsinyourbodyhearseverysinglethingyourbrainsays.Andthere'sresearchtosupportthatstressfultoxicthoughtskillcells,theycannotsurvivethatenvironment,andloving,kindthoughtscausecellstothriveandgrowandreleaseallthesehealthyhormonesandneurotransmitters.So,tobegintoembracethatandseethatyoucancauseashift,it'sjustmoregradualmaybethanyouwantittobe,butthentherearecasesthatit'snotsogradual.So,it'sjustaboutussofteningandusfindingthatcompassionforourselves,andthatkindness,andslowlybeginningtoshiftthosethoughtsandtoathoughtthatfeelsbelievabletoyou.So,youcouldgofrom,"There'snohope.Whybother?"To,"There'ssomehope.I'llgiveyouthat.Allright,there's20%hope."Andthenmaybein2weeks,you'llbeat40%,butyoudon'thavetogofrom,"There'snohope,"to,"Ohmygoodness,there'shopeeverywhere,"youknow,that'salittleunrealisticaswell.Butjustthisslight,gradualshift.Andthenyou'llseethat,thentherewillbemorehope,andthenyouwillcheeryourselfonmore.Andthen


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youwill...youknow,yourbeliefs,again,likeIsaidearlier,yourbeliefsdictateyourbehaviorandyourbehaviordictatesyourhealthandyourlifeandeverythingyouperceiveinyourlifeand...butitallstartswiththosebeliefs.Katie:Yeah,exactly.Andjustlikewedon'tgotothegymandgainallthestrengthinonesession,wedon'tfixourbraininonetimeofthinkingpositively.Likeyousaid,it'saprocessthatwehavetopracticeandexercise,justlikeanythingelse.Alittlebitofatangent,butI'mreallycuriousasamomyourselfandhavingnowworkedwithsomanypeopleonthis,arethereanythingsthatyouarecognizantofdoingwithyourownchildrentohelpthem?Because,obviously,nomatterhowhardwetry,ourchildrenalwaysaregoingtogothroughdifficultthingsasmuchaswewishwecouldstopthatfromthem.Butaretherewaysthatwecanhelpchildrenkindofdeveloptheseskillsatanearlierage,somaybetheydon'thavetogettothepointthatmanyofushave?Aimee:Yeah,I'mreallycognizantofit,Ithink,allmyyearsofmyownspiritualandemotionalwork.Andso,Ialwaystryto...youknow,somysonistwo,abouttobethreeinSeptember,andhe'saboy,andhe'swild,andcrazy,andsomuchfun.IknowItrytoleadbyexample.So,wedothisthingeveninthemirrorinthemorning,noteveryday,butwelookinthemirrorandwepointoutthingsthatwelikeabouteachotherandaboutourselves,andwegiggle,likewe'llpushournosesin.And,youknow,justtrytogetthisexerciseoflookinginthemirroranditactuallybeingfun,andseeingourselvesandseeingeachother.Itryto...youknow,ofcourse,Imean,Ithinkweallhearthisfromparentingpeople,butwhenhe'sinanemotionalstate,IlethimexpressitandwetrytotalkaboutitandIalwayssay,"Iunderstandyou'refrustrated,let'stalkitthrough."AndIremindhim,though,thatit'sgoingtopass,youknow,andthisisjustamomentandthat,youknow,hecanfeelbetter.Andyouknow,Ithink,like,oneofmyfavoritethingsandIreallytrytobetherewithhimis,youknow,lethimseethathecanmakemistakesandthattheworld'snotgoingtoend.Imean,obviously,theirworldisvery...isgrowingbyleapsandboundsbytheday,butit'sstillverysmall.Andtosay,"It'sokay,youknow,mommakesmistakesallthetime,"andwejust,wefigureitoutandthenwecandoitagain.Andthat'sit.AndIjusttrytokeeponencouraginghim.Andsometimeshe'llsay,"Oh,Ican'tdoit."AndIsay,"No.Youcan,youcan."Butyourwaymightbedifferentthanmyway,andso,Ialwaysjusttrytocreatethatflexibilityinthere.Andthenalso,ifI'mfeelingfrustratedorhecatchesmeinabadmood,whichhappensbecausewe'reallhuman,Iexplainittohim.Isay,"Mommy'sfeelingfrustratedrightnow,"youknow,andIobviouslydon'tgointomanydetailsifit's,youknow,longwindedorsomethinghedoesn'tneedtoknowabout,but,"Momisfeelingfrustratedrightnow,butIknowIcanworkthroughit.IknowI'mgoingtofeelbetter."And,youknow,wetakedeepbreathsandwetrytofocusandseehowwefeel.Andsometimes,ifhe'shavingatantrum,I'lljustsay,"Didyoueatallyourlunchatschooltoday,"orwhatever,youknow,andhedidn't.AndIsay,"Okay,now,wedon'talwaysfeelourbestifwe'renotnourishingandsupportingourbody,"andhe'llsay,"Okay,you'reright."And,youknow,withfood,wereallytrytobeconsciousandpracticegratitudewhenwe'reeating.So,Imean,Itrytodosomuchofitwithhim.OneofthepiecesofadviceIalwaysgivetowomenis,youknow,insteadinthemorning,youknow,howwemaketheirbreakfastandthenwegoandwestartdoingallthedishes,orwestraightenupthekitchen,orwe'relookingatouremail.Instead,Imakemyownbreakfast,it'susuallythesamethingashim,andIsitwithhimandIeatit.AndI'mshowinghimthatthisisimportanttometoo.ThisisimportantthatIsitandInourishmybody.AndwhenIgotoexerciseandhedoesn'twantmeto


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leave,Iremindhim,"Thisissomethingthatmommydoestomakeherselffeelgood.Thisissomethingthat'sveryimportanttomeandhowInourishandsupportmybody."Andso,hegetsit.AndIthinkthat'sthebiggest,isIreallytrytoleadbyexample.ButIalsoreallytrytoletmyselfhonormyfeelings,letthemcomeup,likewitnessthemandacknowledgethem.AndIlethimdothesame.So,evenattwoandahalf,wehaveourmomentswherewetalkaboutouremotionsandwewitnessthem,andwealsoprocessitandthere's,youknow,Itrynottolettherebeshameaboutanything.Katie:Yeah.Ithinkthat'ssomegreattips.AndIwouldremissbecausemybackgroundisinnutrition.Idon'twanttoendtheinterviewwithouttalkingalittlebitaboutthenutritionandtheenvironmentsidebecauseyouaddressthosebothreallywellin,"BodyBelief"aswell.AndIfeellikeyouaresoamazingatthemind-bodypart.Idefinitelywantedthattobethefocus,butI'dloveifyoucouldalsoshare,forallthepeoplelisteningwhodohaveautoimmunedisease,someofthethingsthatyouhavefoundinyourpracticeandinyourclinicalwork,thatseemtobethemosteffectivefromthedietarynutritionsideaswellastheenvironmentside.Aimee:Well,it'salot.It'snotaneasytask,butaworthwhileone.AsIsaidearlier,youknow,we'veintroducedover80,000chemicalsintoourenvironment,andmainlyintheformofthingsthatareinourbathandbeautyproductstothingsthatareinourfood,andinthesoilwhereourfoodgrowsin.So,forsomepeople,it'saprettyradicalchange.Forothers,youknow,alotofHashimotopeople,ifyouwill,theyallseemtoknowthatthey...youknow,glutenanddairyarenogoodforHashimoto's,butanyautoimmunedisease,youknow,some...thescienceshowsusthatthere'snotasinglecaseofautoimmunitythatdoesn'thaveleakygut.AndIknowyou'vegoneintoleakygutbeforeonyourpodcast,butleakygutisbasicallywhenyourintestinesareleaking.Theybecomemorepermeable,andproteinsandsubstancesthataren'tsupposedtogetintothebloodstreamgetintoyourbloodstreamandthatcausesmoreinflammationinyourbody.Anditreallyjustfeedstheautoimmunity.So,thekeytohealing,notcuring,autoimmunityiswegottahealthatgut.So,thatmeanswehavetocleanupthediet,wehavetogetridofanypotentialinflammatoryfoodsthataregoingtoaggravatethegutlining,aggravateinflammationinthebody,anythingthat'shardtodigest.So,in,"BodyBelief,"Ipresentaneliminationdietandwe'reeliminatingeverythingfromgluten,anddairy,andsoytothingslikenutsandbeans,nightshadevegetables.It'sdefinitelyautoimmunepaleoistheapproachthatI'mfollowingin,"BodyBelief"withsomeChinesemedicinetweaksbecausewe'remoreintocookedfoodthanrawfoods,andwelove,youknow,westilllovesweetpotatoesandbutternutsquashes.Andso,there'ssomevariations.It'snotstrictorabsoluteautoimmunepaleo.Andthere'slotsofbonebrothbecausebrothisthebestwaytohealourgut.So,it'sbasically...whatI'veseenclinicallyisthatsomeofmyautoimmunepatientscantoleratenutsreallywell.Andthensomeofthem,likemyself,Ican'thavemorethantwohandfulsofalmondsinaweek.Otherwise,myskinflaresrightbackupandmydigestionisamess.Thenotherpeople...Ican'ttouchbeans,andsomepeoplecan.Andnightshade'sforsome.So,theonlytruewayisnotthroughfoodallergytestingorfoodsensitivitytesting,ithastobethroughaneliminationdiet.Andyouhavetostrictlyavoideverypotentialtoxicsubstance.Andthenafteraperiodoftime,Ithink,youknow,aboutfourtosixweeks,youslowly,onebyone,addthosefoodsbackin,whileoverthosefourtosixweeks,you'vebeendoinglotsofbonebroth,eatingverysimple,verycleanandallowingtheguttoheal.Andthenyoureintroducefoodsandyoukeep...youknow,Igiveafooddiarytemplateintheresourcespagethatgoeswiththebook.Andyoukeepareallydetaileddiaryof,"Okay,IhadXandthenthisishowIfeltright


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after.ThisishowIfelttwohourslater.Thisiswhatmybowelmovementislike,anyothernotes."So,youcanstarttopaintaclearpicture,"Oh,that'sinteresting.EverytimeIhavebellpeppers,guesswhat?X,Y,andZhappenstome."That'swhatI'velearnedclinicallyis,youknow,I'vehadplentyofpatientsdoanyofthosefoodsensitivitytestsandthey'rejustnotaccurate,theypaint...itisasnapshot,basically,it'snotanoverallpictureofwhat'sgoingoninthebody.Andyouhavetocompletelyremoveeverypotentiallytoxicfoodgroup.Andtheninaddition,youhavetooverhaulyourlifestyleandyourdietand,youknow,theysaytheaveragewomanisexposedto500chemicalsbeforesheleavesthehouseinthemorning.Andthosechemicalsareendocrine-disruptingchemicals.So,especially,ifyouhaveHashimoto's,it'sdefinitelyplayingarolethere.Butthosechemicalsarelinkedtoautoimmunity.So,wehaveto...youknow,Ihavearuleofthumb,Ifyoucan'teatit,youshouldn'tputitonyourskin.AndIdoalotofDIYthingsathomewhenwemakeourowncleaningproducts.IcreatedmyownorganicskincarelinebecauseIcouldn'tfindanythingouttherethatIthoughtwascleanenoughtoeat,butthat'swhatwehaveto...wehavetoreframeourentirelifeandlimitthosechemicalexposures.Andatfirst,ifthisisallbrandnewtoyou,that'sdefinitelyoverwhelming.AndI'mallabout,youknow,IrespectyourdollarandIrespectyourtime,soyoucandoitslowandsteady.Youjust,asyourunoutofproducts,replaceitwithsomethinglesstoxic.There'sbrilliantwebsitesouttherenowlikeEWG,there'sSkinDeep,andwhat'stheotherone?IthinkDirty,youknow,whereyoucanreally...youcanseethetoxicitylevelsofdifferentproducts.AndIalwayssaytostayonthelowend,belowtwoismyruleofthumbonthosescales.Butoverhaulingtheentirelifeisimportant,andreducingyourchemicalexposuresasmuchasyoupossiblycanwillhelpyounotjustfeelbetterinthemoment,butit'slongevity,it'shealing.Andearlier,youmentionedthatautoimmunityisevenaffectingchildren.Andtheresearchisshowingusthatit'saffectingchildrenbecauseoftheexposuresthemomsarehavingintheirpregnancies.Andagain,Idon'twantanyonetofeelbad.Andwe'veallhadourexposuresandourmomshadexposures,andthat'sprobablywhywewoundupwithsomeautoimmunity.Plasticswerereallypopularinthe'70sand'80s,andtheyweremicrowavingourplasticbottleswithformulainthemicrowaveandthengivingittous,andweweregettingBPAexposure,andthatprobablytriggeredsomeautoimmunityinalotofus.Butwedidn'tknowanybetter.So,it'saboutdoingthebestwecando,butlimitingthoseexposuresforcertain,inyourhomeandinyourfamily,isreallyimportant.Andifyouhavechildren,butespeciallyifyou'repregnanttoobecauseitcansetthecascadethatifyourautoimmunitykicksin,whichisverycommonforautoimmunitytokickinduringpregnancyorpostpartum.Andifthatkicksinonyou,itcanaffectthebaby.Andsoitis,it'ssteppingbackandreframing.Imean,we'veintroducedallthesechemicalsandmaybeit'smadelifeeasier,butdiseaseshavegonethroughtheroof.Andso,youknow,wehavetogobacktothewaysofourgreatgrandparentsandhowtheylivedandhowtheyateand,youknow,maybeweshouldallstarthavingsomechickensandafarm,but,youknow,I'mbeingfunny.Butalso,it'sathought,anditisaboutallofremovingthosetoxins,youknow,obviously,emotionally,butnutritionallyandenvironmentallytotrulyhealandfeelourbest.AndIseeitallthetime,especiallywomentryingtoconceive,Imean,thatwas...tome,itwasblackandwhite.Iwouldchangetheirdiet.Iwouldchangeovertheirlifestyle,andthenboom.Andthesearegirlsthatare,youknow,tryingtogetpregnantforeightyears,allthefertilitytreatmentsintheworld.AndIseeitin...youknow,Hashimoto'sisprobablyoneofthemostcommonthingsIseebecauseit'sthemostcommonautoimmunecondition,butyouseetheantibodyloaddropinamonth.Imean,theycanbeinthethousandsandthenyou


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takealltheselifestylechangesandtheantibodiesjustdropdowntoacouple100,100.Andthere's,youknow,symptomatically,right?So,Chinesemedicine,allIreallycareaboutishowyoufeel,whatyou'representingwith.Symptomatically,theirliveschange.Andso,it'sworthit,it'saninvestmentinyourself.AndIthink,too,thefirstrealstepinstandingupforyourself,andsaying,"IdeservetofeelbetterandIdeservetonourishandsupportmyself.AndI'mgoingtomakethesechangesbecauseIknowit'sgoingtohelpme."Andso,there'salotofthingstoshift,butyeah,whatyouputinyourmouthandwhatyouputonyourbodyaretwothingsyoucancontrolandyoureallyshouldpayattentiontothemandbeconsciousofeverysinglethingthatyoucomeintocontactwith,andhowit'seithergoingtosupportyouornot.Katie:Yeah,Idefinitely,definitelyagree.I'vewrittenaboutthisaswell.Andyouhavesomeamazingresourcesin,"BodyBelief."We'llmakesuretolinktothatintheshownotesatwellnessmamma.fmforanyonelistening,aswellaslinkstoyourpreviousbooks.And,ofcourse,they'realsoallavailableonAmazon,peoplecanfindthemthere.Andalso,we'llhavelinkstoyourwebsiteandallofyourresourcesbecauseyouhavealotofthem.AndIthinkthat,likeIsaidatthebeginning,Ithinkthisissoimportantthatyou'rereallytacklingthemind-bodypart,too,becausetherearetonsofresourcesoutthereaboutthedietarysideandtheenvironmentalside.Ithinkthemind-bodyoneisthetoughone.Andthere'snotasmuchinformation.Ithinkthereismoreawareness,it'sstartingtocomearound,butI'mgladthatyou'retacklingthisheadon,andIappreciateyouandyourworkandyoubeingherewithustoday,andsharingthis,andjustforyourtime.So,thankyousomuch,Aimee.Aimee:Oh,Thankyousomuch,Katie.Ireallyappreciateyourworkaswell.So,thankyousomuchforhavingmeon.Katie:Ofcourse.Andthankstoallofyouforlistening.AndIhopetoseeyounexttimeon,"TheHealthyMomsPodcast."

Ifyou'reenjoyingtheseinterviews,wouldyoupleasetaketwominutestoleavearatingorreviewoniTunesforme?Doingthishelpsmorepeopletofindthepodcast,whichmeansevenmoremomsandfamiliescouldbenefitfromtheinformation.Ireallyappreciateyourtime,andthanksasalwaysforlistening.

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