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zezagpolla 19:57

RT @teachersfirst: Featrd sites this wk http://bit.ly/eNZCdu #edtech

#edchat #elemchat #educhat #tlchat #sschat #ntchat #teachers

#midleved #ukedchat

dominiccheng 19:57#ukedchat - staff who don't use technology will soon become liketextbooks - useful at times but ultimately a bit tired and uninteresting

Joga5 19:57

3 minutes to go until #ukedchat - What should we do with teachers

who don't use technology?

BobToms100 19:57

Slowly, slowly catch the monkey... ween colleagues who lack

confidence/technophobe w/just 1 simple tech activity at 1st ... 1/2

#ukedchat

ukedchat 19:58

Please remember to include the #ukedchat hash tag near the start of

your tweets, to ensure they are included within the archive :-)

colport 19:58

It's near 8pm. Please join @Joga5 to discuss, "What should we do with

teachers who don't use technology?" All welcome :-) #ukedchat

ukedchat 19:58

It's near 8pm. Please join @Joga5 to discuss, "What should we do with

teachers who don't use technology?" All welcome :-) #ukedchat

bellaale 19:59

RT @colport: It's near 8pm. Please join @Joga5 to discuss, "What

should we do with teachers who don't use technology?" All welcome :-)

#ukedchat

innovteach2 19:59

So sorry I am going to have to miss #ukedchat tonight as I have to do

Mum's taxi duty - look forward to catching up on archive later

Educationchat 19:59

I rather think, if we're not careful, the topic soon will be "What do we

do with teachers who ONLY use technology?" #ukedchat

veecam 19:59

RT @ukedchat: Its near 8pm. Please join @Joga5 to discuss, "What

should we do with teachers who dont use technology?" #ukedchat

innovteach2 20:00 #ukedchat but I promise to be there next week!

FoxyMusicEd 20:00

#ukedchat Maybe next week have a ukedchat party!? RT @Joga5 hosts

@ukedchat "What should we do with teachers who don't use

technology?"

bucharesttutor 20:00

RT @ukedchat: Please remember to include the #ukedchat hash tag

near the start of your tweets, to ensure they are included within the

archive :-)

BobToms100 20:00

Get Head's backing 2 present 2 all staff @ staff training/INSET & give

out brief printed summary & an idea 4 each subj area 2/3 #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:00

#ukedchatRT @Joga5: OK the qu is What should we do with teachers

who don't use tech?

jackieschneider 20:00@Joga5 #ukedchat - people only change their practise when they seeclear advantage in doing so. Inspire - don't nag :-)

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Hello everyone, this is Vijay here from Bucharest a Math educator, nice

to find you all here #ukedchat

StephanieBaier 20:01 Hi #ukedchat. I'm in NJ, USA. Interested in your chat today.


Show them pros n cons of using technology n compare them without

tech, surely the difference is huge #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:01

@Joga5 From a technical point of view, most are nervous of tech

because they think they might break something. #ukedchat

colport 20:01

@BobToms100 #ukedchat I'd agree, I think the initiative needs to come

from the top. Like @bevevans22 says, slowly and surely.

Joga5 20:01

OK the question is What should we do with teachers who don't use

technology? Can we look initially at those who are nervous of it

#ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:01

RT @Joga5: The topic of conversation for #ukedchat tonight will be:What should we do with teachers who don't use technology? See you

at 8pm

clairegowland 20:02 #ukedchat Is it essential that all teachers use technology do you think?

StephanieBaier 20:02

#ukedchat I think you have to teach them basics of technology before

you can expect teachers to use it in the classroom.

JCBarrington 20:02

#ukedchat Teachers need to want to change. If they aren't comfortable

using something, it is to the detriment of the children's learning.

colport 20:02

@bucharesttutor #ukedchat Some colleagues like the reassurance of a

piece of paper though

tobyholman 20:02

#ukedchat Teachers who don't use tech? Question one's own

approach. If they don't use, either they don't like or are not impressed

BobToms100 20:02

Ask Head if he can ask depts/faculties to carry out activity suggested or

(their own) & give feedback next staff meeting/INSET #ukedchat 3/3

john_at_muuua 20:02 @Joga5 er... why don't they use tech? #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:03

#ukedchat Maybe teachers can put something across better without

using technology?

Joga5 20:03

@tobyholman So does leadership come into it? School vision etc

#ukedchat


. @clairegowland #ukedchat I don't think it's essential for all to use all

the time, but all should use when it will enhance.

BSFDarren 20:03

#ukedchat is the challenge for many unfamiliarity? Do not associate

school tech with the tech that surrounds them in life?

withoutmotive 20:03#ukedchat One approach sometimes used is make the tech way theONLY way to achieve a particular task. Then, they have no choice.

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bellaale 20:03

#ukedchat counterproductive to ram tech down people's throats... Just

model good practice and be open with those who show interest

jackieschneider 20:03

#ukedchat @colport @bobtoms100 @bevevans22 - I think best

innovation is BOTTOM up. Nervous of top down initiatives

john_at_muuua 20:03

been looking into this exact topic. I would suggest it's not the teachers,

but the tech that's to blame#ukedchat

tobyholman 20:03

#ukedchat @clairegowland No, but essential all teachers know the

benefits (and negatives) of using tech

JCBarrington 20:03

#ukedchat I'm currently attending #pelc11. Spending a day at a

conference like this will ensure they find something they feel they must

try!

oldandrewuk 20:03

#ukedchat I find PE teachers don't use enough technology when they

are out on the field. Perhaps we should invest in longer extensionleads?

withoutmotive 20:03

#ukedchat Some don't want to learn about it because their happy with

the old way - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"


Training them n taking it step by step will eventually make them tech

savvy as well #ukedchat

veecam 20:03

@bucharesttutor not enough.... some teachers are scared of using

technology to teach through - they're afraid of losing control #ukedchat

FoxyMusicEd 20:03

#ukedchat showcase some amazing examples that are simple and make

life easier! Showcase technology with a smile and be happy to help!

rbnpepper 20:03

Should your pupils love or fear you? http://t.co/AElxP0k #edreform

#education #ukedchat #teachers #ntchat

BobToms100 20:04

@colport Think tech'll av greater uptake & usage as ynger staff come &

replace retiring, older staff, but 1can onlytry in meantime #ukedchat


@colport we can always site an eg such as saving paper n helping the

environment. The alternative, welcome to tech world #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:04

@Educationchat Maybe so but sometimes they have to face the fact

that that is the direction the world is going. #ukedchat

veecam 20:04

@withoutmotive agreed...technology is pervasive these days...

teachers don't need to be experts - they just need motivation

#ukedchat

colport 20:04

@john_at_muuua #ukedchat Does the tech need to be even more user-

friendly?

clairegowland 20:05 #ukedchat What type of technology are you talking about here.

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JCBarrington 20:05

RT @Educationchat: #ukedchat Play to teacher's strengths - if

technology will make their lessons worse don't insist upon it. CPD -

start simple.

islayian 20:05

#ukedchat Use of tech won't change in secondary schools till the exam

systems demand it They need a driver

BSFDarren 20:05#ukedchat is there a danger that we consider tech only to becomputing related?


@veecam perseverance n encouragement combined with some

interactive training in tech must bring the best in them #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:05

#ukedchat Don't get me wrong, those who don't like tech are (mostly)

more than willing to at least give it a go.

john_at_muuua 20:05

@colport no, more teacher friendly. different thing and the mistake

coders make all the time #ukedchat

tobyholman 20:05@Joga5 School vision should guide but not insist on techimplementation. #ukedchat

colport 20:05

@bellaale We ram tech down pupils throats, as well as maths and

literacy...so why not ram tech down teachers throats? #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:05

#ukedchat Play to teacher's strengths - if technology will make their

lessons worse don't insist upon it. CPD - start simple.

JCBarrington 20:06

@BSFDarren I think the context of today's #ukedchat, I'd include

anything - phones, ipods/pads, gps tools, social networking, etc

Joga5 20:06

@Educationchat So you are inviting a rollercoaster of experience for

the children. Also how can they teach ICT in primary? #ukedchat

FoxyMusicEd 20:06

#ukedchat give up our own time to help them - some avoidance could

be down to fear of failure.

john_at_muuua 20:06

I firmly believe tech can be fantastic, but I consider what we are given

right now and think god help us! #ukedchat

mandared 20:06

#ukedchat tech still an uphill battle for many - no IT access for KS3 for

me and mobiles completely banned


. @colport #ukedchat I don't think we're ramming it down students'

throats. Its important now... just as english, math, history, science.

colport 20:06

@john_at_muuua #ukedchat Makes teachers sound like a primitive lot

LOL

chris_1974 20:06

RT @Educationchat #ukedchat Play to teacher's strengths, if technology

will make their lessons worse don't insist upon it. CPD, start simple

jameshaslam78 20:07

We should do nothing with teachers who don't engage with

technology, provided their classes are engaged and enjoying learning#ukedchat

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BobToms100 20:07

Innovation can get staff talking & those that want 2 try will. Difficult

2do anythg w/diehards & sceptics, even if 'from the top' #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:07

My technique with 2 in my department is I've made a software package

that allows them access to videos ,ppt at a couple of clicks #ukedchat

cliffmanning 20:07

Problem with terminology- tech or anything like that is seen as for ict

tech people so teachers pass responsibility to them. #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:07

RT @Sundayteatime: #ukedchat in industry you can't refuse to use tech

if it's part of your job.

Educationchat 20:07

@WithoutMotive Agree completely, but can do more harm than good

if taught badly or without enthusiasm... #ukedchat

chris_1974 20:07 Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat.

BSFDarren 20:07 @clairegowland I don't think this is clear yet. #ukedchat

Sundayteatime 20:07

#ukedchat in industry you can't refuse to use tech if it's part of your

job.

colport 20:07

@StephanieBaier #ukedchat The point I am trying to make that schools

are learning places for all inside, including teachers.

withoutmotive 20:08

#ukedchat Once used to a piece of tech, teachers can't live with it, eg

Smartboards. They hated them, no they can't live without them.

colport 20:08 @john_at_muuua no doubt #ukedchat I take your point.

dominiccheng 20:08

#ukedchat - we tried an AR card today at work - I defy anyone to use it

in class and not get a bit of awe and wonder in their lessons

JCBarrington 20:08

RT @chris_1974: Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat. <-- I

agree, but tech leads to new avenues and opportunities otherwise lost

john_at_muuua 20:08

so we are given EVERYTHING when we don't need everything.

#ukedchat just the right thing.

tobyholman 20:08

Am a big, big fan of stealth training.....training and enthusing staff and

them not knowing #ukedchat

bellaale 20:08

RT @chris_1974: Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat. >

agreed. Pedagogy before shiny shiny!

colport 20:08

#ukedchat It is important that colleagues are shown how tech stuff can

inform and support teaching, rather than hinder. Down 2 confidence


@Sundayteatime exactly like they say, "if you can't beat them, you join

them" #ukedchat

morrisseyobe 20:08

RT @john_at_muuua: @colport teachers are smart, and committed to

the job. problem is that tech designers are after a fast buck...#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:08

@colport teachers are smart, and committed to the job. problem is

that tech designers are after a fast buck...#ukedchat

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misshbond 20:08

RT @chris_1974: Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat. <-- Yes

yes yes.

PICTR_Blog 20:09

Surely- key word is 'support', both from internal tech-confident staff

and outside if needed. Also sharing of ideas tech or not. #ukedchat

bellaale 20:09RT @tobyholman: Am a big, big fan of stealth training.....training andenthusing staff and them not knowing #ukedchat > works with kids ;)


@Joga5 #ukedchat Teach primary students the basics, but on a regular

basis... increase each year until they are proficient in secondary.

john_at_muuua 20:09 RT @chris_1974: Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat.

cliffmanning 20:09

â€œ@bevevans22: #ukedchat ... training with hands on experience

works wonders. Photostory & audacity" >> project based learning for

all

Educationchat 20:09

@Joga5 Absolutely! The greater the variety of teachers childrenexperience, the better & more rounded education they will receive!

#ukedchat

Joga5 20:09

RT @clairegowland #ukedchat What type of technology are you talking

about here. {I have been deliberately non specific}

john_at_muuua 20:10

I'm thinking my school's VLE right now. great, with about 99% of

functions that we would never use but just confuse matters. #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:10

RT @Sundayteatime: #ukedchat tech reliability is a big issue. One

failure in front of a class and it puts people off. Teachers aren't keen on

double planning.

aangeli 20:10

RT @withoutmotive: #ukedchat Once used to a piece of tech, teachers

can't live with it, eg Smartboards. They hated them, no they can't live

without them.

withoutmotive 20:10

#ukedchat What do you do with people who can't handle the basics?

I.e. Open Word, write a document, print it. Bog standard essentials.

tobyholman 20:10

eg, get a teacher interested in forums / web searches / maps by

showing how such tech can save money on, say, petrol #ukedchat

Sundayteatime 20:10

#ukedchat tech reliability is a big issue. One failure in front of a class

and it puts people off. Teachers aren't keen on double planning.

GatewaytoSkills 20:10

Grade 8-12 #lessonplan on natural disasters and their impact on

communities & individuals http://ht.ly/4o9hA #sschat #edchat

#ukedchat #k12

FoxyMusicEd 20:10

#ukedchat - use the kids more. theyve got incredible ICT skills & if all

willing what an opportunity to help staff learn (seen this happen)!

JOHNSAYERS 20:10BUT well play on it get the student to demonstrate using ICT to eachother. Just cause a teacher cant doesn't mean they do!? #ukedchat

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Joga5 20:10

@jameshaslam78 There is no assumption that they are unsatisfactory

because of non tech use #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:10

@chris_1974: Tech when best, not for sake of it. #ukedchat. <-- I agree,

tech leads to new avenues and opportunities otherwise lost

MrAColley 20:10#ukedchat Tech has to be appropriate, simple to use and enhancelearning. Teachers have to see what's in it for them.

kekkelkekkel 20:11

teachers not always aware of 'great' sites and 'issue' with signing up -

even if it's free #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:11

RT @john_at_muuua: I'm thinking my school's VLE right now. great,

with about 99% of functions that we would never use but just confuse

matters. #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:11

#ukedchat Have experienced (and probably delivered) many 'death by

PowerPoint' lessons! Be innovative! Excite! Engage!

BSFDarren 20:11

@JCBarrington so burning question could still be, what tech doteachers use outside of school that could be part of school life?

#ukedchat

MrB8rPhysics 20:11

#ukedchat Tech for me needs to be quick, free and easy - that way,

should it fail, its no great loss...

GaryAveryICT 20:11

RT @john_at_muuua: I'm thinking my school's VLE right now. great,

with about 99% of functions that we would never use but just confuse

matters. #ukedchat


From the top initiatives are often fought. You need to have a

motivation to try something new, besides a directive. #ukedchat

kekkelkekkel 20:12

RT @colport: @john_at_muuua #ukedchat This is where I feel many

VLE's failed for teachers and schools. Unnecessarily complicated.

cliffmanning 20:12

Some of our best teachers are rubbish with tech but fully support kids

to use it & play. understand benefits even if they dont use #ukedchat

PICTR_Blog 20:12 Also crucial that we don't always assume 'tech is best'! #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:12

There are far too many great teachers, experienced teachers, who

naturally despise the tech we're given. ask them why. #ukedchat

colport 20:12

@Sundayteatime #ukedchat It's all about having a back-up plan. It's a

painful experience when it does fail though!

JCBarrington 20:13

@BSFDarren #ukedchat Very much so! Using technology that teachers

are familiar and comfortable with. eg Wii for Games-based-learning

makesmeexcited 20:13

#ukedchat support & support & support - eg team teach, recognise

how much fear there is around technology

GaryAveryICT 20:13

Tech is fantastic but it has to come from a whole school approach,

people will duck out if they others doing so #ukedchat

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RT @tobyholman: Am a big, big fan of stealth training.....training and

enthusing staff and them not knowing #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:13 @tonycassidy ahhh I do like #ukedchat

islayian 20:14

#ukedchat Iech is seen as an additional thing to learn rather than

something to aid

JOHNSAYERS 20:14

@bevevans22 yep I've made plenty of guides like how to use, Prezi,

google earth, google more search tools. It does work #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:14 @MrB8rPhysics gonna get a tattoo of that! #ukedchat

aangeli 20:14

@WithoutMotive how can anybody be that non tech savvy? Surely

there should be some responsability with the school 2 #ukedchat

drtimony 20:14

@john_at_muuua Tacit knowledge: prejudices occur before cognition.

http://drtimony.com/?p=215 #ukedchat

clairegowland 20:14#ukedchat Too many teachers assume that it is the job of the ICTdepartment to do the 'tech' bit.

JCBarrington 20:14

RT @cliffmanning: Some of our best teachers are rubbish with tech but

fully support kids to use it & play. understand benefits even if they dont

use #ukedchat

chris_1974 20:15

Agreed. RT @PICTR_Blog Also crucial that we don't always assume 'tech

is best'! #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:27

Twitter has gone amazingly slow for me. Struggling to keep up with

#ukedchat.

ICTmagic 20:28

At primary no one is allow to refuse to use/teach Eng, Maths, Sci or

other subject. Why ICT? Because it seems like magic to some.

#ukedchat

Radd1970 20:28

#ukedchat if we use tech day to day, much is intuitive. For those who

don't at home or at work, it is like learning Russian.

bellaale 20:28

RT @makesmeexcited: #ukedchat support & support & support - eg

team teach, recognise how much fear there is around technology

clairegowland 20:28

RT @bellaale: My #ukedchat column is stuck! Whassup? >> Mine too!

Twitter having problems.

bellaale 20:28 My #ukedchat column is stuck! Whassup?

bellaale 20:29 @withoutmotive me too! Frustrating and ironic! #ukedchat

Joga5 20:29 @withoutmotive Having problems as well #ukedchat

colport 20:29

@bucharesttutor Things coming back for me. OK, will try to continue

with #ukedchat

cliffmanning 20:29

Show what other similar teachers do to build confidence but don't

show really fancy stuff or the gap seems too big #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:29

@clairegowland #ukedchat Ict should be cross curricular + not a

dedicated lesson. Skills built on in every lesson follow line of progression

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JCBarrington 20:29

RT @Radd1970: #ukedchat if we use tech day to day, much is intuitive.

For those who don't at home or at work, it is like learning Russian.

AtkiTeach 20:29

â€œ@withoutmotive: Twitter has gone amazingly slow for me.

Struggling to keep up with #ukedchat.â€ me too. Lost 15 mins of tweets

john_at_muuua 20:29@chris_1974 you'll be amazed how many people have said that#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:30

@islayian @Joga5 none of the above. They say 'time consuming, over

complicated and proprietary' #ukedchat

GaryAveryICT 20:30

@clairegowland #ukedchat Ict should be cross curricular + not a

dedicated lesson. Skills built on in every lesson: Totally agree

mandared 20:30

#ukedchat maybe we should be asking how tech can be made available

in scls where mgmt don't see value?

ianaddison 20:30

@JOHNSAYERS @bellaale @cherrylkd I have 3children running student

newspaper, 5running blogs, 6running ICT clubs. In primary #ukedchat

kenradical 20:30

Teachers, like all people, mostly hate change. You need people to

demonstrate the benefits and introduce with word of mouth #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:30

Agreed RT @Radd1970 #ukedchat if we use tech day to day, much is

intuitive. For those who don't at home/work, it is like learning Russian.

clairegowland 20:30 R@cherrylkd: #ukedchat Agree. ICT should be in all subjects.

JCBarrington 20:30

@bellaale Yeah, I do love the irony of #ukedchat about tech being held

up... by tech!

Sundayteatime 20:30 #ukedchat talking about technology failure...

withoutmotive 20:30

#ukedchat We've also recently introduced remote access from home.

Massive amount of tech for some teachers but they're taking to it

nicely.

MrAColley 20:31

#ukedchat Keep the focus on learning, not on tech. That helps to

alleviate some FUD (thanks @islayian)

JOHNSAYERS 20:31

@ianaddison kudos points to you skipper! I'm getting there it is a great

concept and my recruit loves helping:) #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:31

#ukedchat and twitter problems coincidental, considering the title of

the session this evening. Hopefully, service is resuming

happy_chap 20:32

@Educationchat Hi, what's a visualiser? (It's not a term I'm familiar

with) #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:32

RT @mandared: #ukedchat maybe we should be asking how tech can

be made available in scls where mgmt don't see value?

bellaale 20:32#ukedchat Would it help if #Gove stuck ICT in the #EBacc? *chokes onhashtags*

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JOHNSAYERS 20:32

RT @bellaale: RT @Joga5: I remember reading a blog from an Aussie

tweep who holds techie brekkie's in her school to move staff on in tech

use #ukedchat


RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat and twitter problems coincidental,

considering the title of the session this evening. Hopefully, service is

resuming

Joga5 20:32@john_at_muuua @islayian Do they recognise that there are somebenefits? #ukedchat

republicofmath 20:32

Agree, colleague NigelsSmith used to do this at Twyford HANTS

FoxyMusicEd #ukedchat - use kids more. they've got incredible ICT

skills

mandared 20:32

#ukedchat or only see value in VLE as 'keep kids working if it snows,

here's a training session, all lesson materials should now be on VLE'!


Wow seems like technology took the better of us tonite, most of us

were locked in @twitter #ukedchat, what a relief to be back

sarahjnl 20:32

#UKEdChat gotta b daily & gotta totally involve kids, handhelds are the

future.. Networking, research, presentation of info. It's up to us!

dicox 20:32

@BobToms100 there will be a Reading teachmeet in June so keep an

eye out for details #ukedchat

stuayres 20:33

http://t.co/Y9SZ0mw - everyone can have an interactive whiteboard,

wherever they are, for a fraction of the cost of a 'real' one #ukedchat

colport 20:33

Please read this notice from Twitter http://bit.ly/fryXaO It's not you!

#ukedchat

ukedchat 20:33

Please read this notice from Twitter http://bit.ly/fryXaO It's not you!

#ukedchat

Educationchat 20:33

As my last tweet seems be stuck in Twitter black hole: anyone think of

a better piece of tech recently than the visualiser? #ukedchat

Arakwai 20:33

#ukedchat Technology covers a pretty broad range! ;-) So what

technology 'should' teachers be using and why? :-)

john_at_muuua 20:33

@aangeli agree. Tech people can't bridge the knowledge gap and

convey passion to teachers #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:33

#ukedchat It's scary going from font of knowledge to new user & less

knowledge than ur kids. Be understanding with no tech teachers.

ukedchat 20:33 Please read this notice from Twitter http://bit.ly/fryXaO It's not you!

ICTmagic 20:33

Remember that for most teachers, ICT barely or didn't exist when they

were at school. Most other subjects did. So no frame of ref. #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:34@Joga5 totally! That's the problem. They see the benefits, feel likefailures... bad for morale #ukedchat

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RT @colport: Please read this notice from Twitter http://bit.ly/fryXaO

It's not you! #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:34 Tweetgrid seems to be working fine for me and iPhone:) #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:34

@clairegowland Sorry to be devil's advocate, but I just feel that

#ukedchat will be slightly one sided given the tech using to converse!

Joga5 20:34

#ukedchat Can I shift the emphasis now? Should teachers who are no

better than satisfactory be guided to use technology?

FoxyMusicEd 20:34

@McDroll ace its great to see other peoples examples!!!!! #ukedchat is

working for me! :-)

bucharesttutor 20:34 Still unable to see my tweets in the #ukedchat boo hoo

GaryAveryICT 20:35

RT @AtkiTeach: #ukedchat Probs with Twitter? What would u do if it

happened in middle of a lesson? Keep calm, smile and carry on..

MrAColley 20:35

@mandared #ukedchat Too many schools see VLE as a filing cabinet

which totally ignores potential.

FoxyMusicEd 20:35

There's irony for you... RT @colport Please read this notice from

Twitter http://bit.ly/fryXaO It's not you! #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:35

#ukedchat Teachers no better than satisfactory will surely only use ICT

in a way no better than satisfactory?

reflectivemaths 20:35

i try to use tech where appropriate but find it can be really hard in

maths. So much stuff is text based #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:35

@Joga5 At least they should be shown the benefits so that they can

make the choice themselves. #ukedchat

sarahjnl 20:35

#UKEdChat to offer the provision we need confident/ brave staff AND

kit that children can use/ access at home

AtkiTeach 20:35

#ukedchat Probs with Twitter? This is why some teachers don't use

tech. What would u do if it happened in middle of a lesson?

islayian 20:36

@Joga5: @john_at_muuua @islayian Do they recognise that there are

some benefits? #ukedchat yes they do but not for assessments

chris_1974 20:36

None of my team "poor" users of tech. 2 more reluctant, but

outstanding lessons and good results despite. Is this a problem? no.

#ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:36

@reflectivemaths #ukedchat I beg to differ - numbers are everywhere

in the tech world. Take averages of Mario Kart time trials for example

Joga5 20:36@john_at_muuua At Primary we used pupil mentors to supportteachers like that - highly effective #ukedchat

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tobyholman 20:36

Remember too, those hesitant about tech: gains are little, fails are huge

#ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:36

@Joga5 I think so as the variety of tech and sites out there they'll find if

guided to something that they can use well to push on #ukedchat

harrisonmike 20:36

@Joga5 Are you saying teachers need to use tech to be deemed 'good'?

#ukedchat Hmmmmmmm?

bellaale 20:36

@JCBarrington @clairegowland expecting responses from the Luddites

by post next week... ;) #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:36

@happy_chap A camera which allows you to put children's work, text,

book etc under it and it shows it on big screen. Awesome! #ukedchat

colport 20:37

RT @cherrylkd: CPD. Its their job to professionally develop themselves.

Kids need ict for future so should be taught it #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:37@JCBarrington Agreed. It is one sided. But the 'expects' gathered therecan drive CPD forward in our schools with ideas from here. #ukedchat

chris_1974 20:37

@cherrylkd but there's a difference b/n teaching ict, and using ict to

teach maths? #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:37 @AtkiTeach totally agree. #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:37

#ukedchat Visualiser = awesome. Talked soon-to-be my school into

buying one half way thru interview. Hoping they've got one for Sept!

AtkiTeach 20:38

@clairegowland #ukedchat It is preaching to the choir... but we do

need a well-versed choir to convert the others.

withoutmotive 20:38

@AtkiTeach They would use their magnificently prepared backup plan...

obviously ;-P #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:38

the risk with tech is that it is used by the staff and not the students so if

staff use great but drive has to be students #ukedchat

cmac_uk 20:38 @colport @Joga5 #ukedchat - http://bbc.in/ghbMPV - trick them!

clairegowland 20:38

RT @chris_1974: @cherrylkd but there's a difference b/n teaching ict,

and using ict to teach maths? #ukedchat: YES! A big one.

bellaale 20:38

RT @tobyholman: Remember too, those hesitant about tech: gains are

little, fails are huge #ukedchat > no, gains can be unlimited, fails too

happy_chap 20:38

@Educationchat Aha. Actually I do know exactly what you mean - but

didn't know that's what they were called. Thank-you! #ukedchat

ciaje74 20:39

#ukedchat its v difficult if staff don't want to learn, achieving

'outstanding' without use of ICT. I would like to change this in my

school

mandared 20:39

RT @JCBarrington: @ICTmagic I just think for a more lively debate,

there needs to be two sides ! #ukedchat <didn't realise we werearguing!

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DIJASoftware 20:39

I don't have one yet, but think iPads could be amazing in teaching.

#ukedchat

bucharesttutor 20:39 What is CPD anyone #ukedchat @colport @cherrylkd

Joga5 20:39

RT @AtkiTeach: #ukedchat Probs with Twitter? This is why some

teachers don't use tech. What would u do if it happened in middle of a

lesson?

republicofmath 20:39@JCBarrington #ukedchat "Numbers in tech world" does not equatewith maths Ref: @reflectivemaths


@JCBarrington #ukedchat sure. But at secondary, averages is not very

complex.

clairegowland 20:39

#ukedchat so how do we encourage more use of technology across

departments?

Joga5 20:39

RT @AtkiTeach: #ukedchat It's scary going from font of knowledge to

new user & less knowledge than ur kids. Be understanding with no tech

teachers.

JCBarrington 20:39

@ICTmagic I just think for a more lively debate, there needs to be two

sides to an argument! #ukedchat

colmmu 20:39

RT @colport: RT @cherrylkd: CPD. Its their job to professionally

develop themselves. Kids need ict for future so should be taught it

#ukedchat

chris_1974 20:40

@ciaje74 why? If progress, attainement, engagment high, why change?

#devilsadvocate #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:40

@harrisonmike @Joga5 These days I wouldn't like to see a whole

lesson without any tech. It has to have some to get 'good' I think

#ukedchat

clairegowland 20:40

RT @DIJASoftware: I don't have one yet, but think iPads could be

amazing in teaching. #ukedchat: Mobile Technology is the future for

edu

colport 20:40 @bucharesttutor Continuing Professional Development #ukedchat

islayian 20:40

RT @JOHNSAYERS: the risk with tech is that it is used by the staff and

not the students so if staff use great but drive has to be students

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:40

@cherrylkd I agree. But teachers at primary teach MFL which they have

an idea about but are not fluent. But they give it a go. #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:40 @mandared Debate then! #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:41

RT @ICTmagic At primary no one is allow to refuse to use/teach

Eng/Maths/Sci. Why ICT? Because it seems like magic to some.

#ukedchat

chris_1974 20:41

@JOHNSAYERS we have elarning group. 1 rep from each dept. Cascade

ideas. #ukedchat

Joga5 20:41

@bucharesttutor Hi Vijay CPD is Continuing Professional Development

(training for teachers) #ukedchat

colport 20:41

@JCBarrington You make it sound like primary teachers are a lesser

species of teacher! #ukedchat

mandared 20:41

RT @JOHNSAYERS: How many schools have the co-ordinator of ICTdoing regular visits to demonstrate new ICT / resources? #ukedchat

Ha!!

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withoutmotive 20:41

@jackieschneider And, if technology worked all the time, I wouldn't

have a job. Haha. #ukedchat

ElKel99 20:41

#ukedchat best cpd I've had in years was joining twitter - so much

inspiration out there. Teachers should be made to join up

GaryAveryICT 20:41

@clairegowland Agreed.. Until the next best thing comes along..

#ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:41

RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - forgive me if this has been said but I

agree with Douglas Adams - it's only technology if it doesn't work all

the time

JCBarrington 20:41

@reflectivemaths Sorry, I'm a primary trainee - these simpler things are

ideal for me! #ukedchat


#ukedchat - forgive me if this has been said but I agree with Douglas

Adams - it's only technology if it doesn't work all the time

john_at_muuua 20:41

@JCBarrington @ICTmagic totally agree. we're preaching to the choir

here guys! #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:41

How many schools have the co-ordinator of ICT doing regular visits to

demonstrate new ICT / resources? Or a lead in dept doing it?

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:41 @cherrylkd I thin the same for ICT in some cases. #ukedchat

Janshs 20:41

RT @AtkiTeach: #ukedchat It's scary going from font of knowledge to

new user & less knowledge than ur kids. Be understanding with no tech

teachers.

ICTmagic 20:42

@john_at_muuua @JCBarrington So what do we do as savvy IT uses to

help less confident teachers use it were appropriate? #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:42

#ukedchat WIIFM - what's in it for me. Staff need to be shown how

tech can engage, enhance & extend learning.

isleofmandan 20:42

RT @ElKel99 #ukedchat best cpd I've had in years was joining twitter -

so much inspiration out there. Teachers should be made to join up

JCBarrington 20:42

@cherrylkd #ukedchat Is it not dangerous to be so reliant on tech that

a lesson is 'bad' with it? It's the teacher, not the resources

clairegowland 20:42

RT @GaryAveryICT: @clairegowland Agreed.. Until the next best thing

comes along.. #ukedchat: and thats what makes tech so exciting!!

kekkelkekkel 20:42

Teachers are positive once you ShoW them, they don't want to figure it

out themselves #ukedchat

kekkelkekkel 20:43

chn need to be 'trusted' and left to try things out too [first] #ukedchat -

my y5's figured out how to use audacity before I showed them

harrisonmike 20:43

@cherrylkd @Joga5 That seems totally wrong. IMO there'll be a focus

on tech rather than learning #ukedchat

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aangeli 20:43

RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat WIIFM - what's in it for me. Staff need to be

shown how tech can engage, enhance & extend learning.

ianaddison 20:43

Here's a useful help site I made to share tech with teachers

www.undertenminutes.com #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:43

RT @chris_1974:we have elarning group. 1 rep from each dept.

Cascade ideas. LOVE IT #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:43



ciaje74 20:43

#ukedchat @chris_1974 I wouldnt expect staff to use it all the time,

but ways of presenting instead of death by Powerpoint has to be good?

john_at_muuua 20:43

@mandared @JOHNSAYERS we do. we have a 'champion' (no really!)

and he is absolutely useless at convincing the tech shy. #ukedchat

GaryAveryICT 20:43

@clairegowland which is way CPD is always hard. It moves in faster

than some teachers can cope with #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:43

RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - forgive me if this has been said but I

agree with Douglas Adams - it's only technology if it doesn't work all

the time

ianaddison 20:44

I'm providing help guides and videos for everything in my school,

webtools and software. All will be shared online too #ukedchat

harrisonmike 20:44

#ukedchat RT @mike08: RT @kalinagoenglish: Excellent - R wikis a

waste of time? by @michelleworgan #edtech #ELtech #tefl

http://ow.ly/4vvUV


#ukedchat - once something is accepted it is no longer seen as

technology eg printing press & phones. Technology is a tool. A

remarkable one

chris_1974 20:44 @ciaje74 I stopped at slide 3 and we started playing... #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:44

@ianaddison @ICTmagic tech of sufficient complexity is magic, no ?

#ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:44

RT @ianaddison: Here's a useful help site I made to share tech with

teachers www.undertenminutes.com #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:44

#ukedchat ICT IS taught in Primary schools I'll have you know. It amazes

me what our youngest children can do...

chris_1974 20:44

@ciaje74 yes. I did IWB training with PGCE's today. Had ppt that said

"slide 1 of 2681". #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:44

@colport Oh by no means was that my suggestion. I jst think its harder

to find tech that challenges older students in the same way #ukedchat

Joga5 20:44#ukedchat Are there any minimum expectations we should have of teachers in terms of tech use?

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MrAColley 20:45

#ukedchat â€œAny teacher that can be replaced by a computer,

deserves to be.â€ It's about how well tech is used.

cherrylkd 20:45

@JCBarrington #ukedchat I didn't say bad. I'd give it satisfactory. Surely

everyone can use an IWB. Its only an overgrown pc screen.

mandared 20:45

RT @clairegowland: #ukedchat We need to differentiate between the

teaching of ICT and using ICT to help children learn.<Is there a diff?

Janshs 20:45

#ukedchat my idea for nxt yr not totally mine!): "leaders of innovation"

etc

dicox 20:45


teachers www.undertenminutes.com #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:45

how did I get 100% of tech shy using tech? personal, 1:1, making them

feel needed not part of the herd. #ukedchat

Joga5 20:45

@harrisonmike No - I am moving it from the original discussion which

was of all teachers - also a provocation piece #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:45

@islayian It's typical that teachers are expected to teach students but

don't teach each other?! #ukedchat

GaryAveryICT 20:45

RT @Educationchat: #ukedchat ICT IS taught in Primary schools I'll have

you know. It amazes me what our youngest children can do...

clairegowland 20:45

#ukedchat We need to differentiate between the teaching of ICT and

using ICT to help children learn.

AtkiTeach 20:45

#ukedchat Show & tell. Show them how to use it then tell them how it

will improve lives. And be gentle!

colport 20:45

@JCBarrington I think it just needs delivery at a different level

#ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:46

RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat â€œAny teacher that can be replaced by a

computer, deserves to be.â€ It's about how well tech is used.

MrAColley 20:46

RT @clairegowland: #ukedchat We need to differentiate between the

teaching of ICT and using ICT to help children learn.



computer, deserves to be.â€ It's about how well tech is used.

AtkiTeach 20:46

RT @john_at_muuua: how did I get 100% of tech shy using tech?

personal, 1:1, making them feel needed not part of the herd.

#ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:46

RT @kenradical: isn't one of the problems of the perception of ICT that

it is just using PowerPoint, which is one tiny, limited aspect! #ukedchat

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Joga5 20:46

@harrisonmike @cherrylkd My view on it is that good teaching is good

teaching (with or without tech) #ukedchat

chris_1974 20:46

@cherrylkd you'd be surprised. Some can't / don't. Glorified screen. Hit

"next" on ppt. #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:46@ICTmagic @JCBarrington don't stick people in a hall. don't treat themas idiots. don't make tech a race. appreciate our time. #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:46

@cherrylkd @JCBarrington You'd be surprised. I have had many a time

"teaching" someone how to use an IWB. #ukedchat

kenradical 20:46

isn't one of the problems of the perception of ICT that it is just using

PowerPoint, which is one tiny, limited aspect! #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:46

RT @ianaddison: I'm providing help guides and videos for everything in

my school, webtools and software. All will be shared online too

#ukedchat

cornish_james 20:46

#ukedchat I can't use ict in geography at my school due to lack of

facilities for humanities! Only so far a IWB can go in lessons!

ICTmagic 20:46

@ianaddison Thanks for the RT. Need to demystify & show the benefits

& make it easy. Then everyone will use IT when appropriate. #ukedchat

AlanElkins 20:47

RT @isleofmandan: Don't underestimate time reqd to try something

new. Many teachers want to use tech but can't find gap between

marking & meetings! #ukedchat

Joga5 20:47

RT @john_at_muuua: how did I get 100% of tech shy using tech?

personal, 1:1, making them feel needed not part of the herd.

#ukedchat


@MrAColley #ukedchat agree. A poor lesson is a poor lesson with or

without technology

JCBarrington 20:47

RT @john_at_muuua: @ICTmagic @JCBarrington don't stick people in a

hall. don't treat them as idiots. don't make tech a race. appreciate our

time. #ukedchat

bellaale 20:47


teachers www.undertenminutes.com #ukedchat > can vouch for this

ianaddison 20:47

Oh, my new ICT curriculum will also take shape over next few weeks.

Again...I'll share it all #ukedchat

GaryAveryICT 20:47

When I get reluctant readers, desperate to make a story podcast of

their own work..Thats where I know ICT works in my school #ukedchat

clairegowland 20:47

@mandared #ukedchat. diff between using tech as teachers to

support learning in the classroom. and teaching them how to build

website

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harrisonmike 20:48

@Joga5 Okey kokey. I was a little wary of the term 'guided'. IMO more

or better use of tech won't necessarily improve teaching #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:48

RT @bucharesttutor: @bucharesttutor: I believe that technology must

definitely be taught but taken in a gentle n systematic manner

#ukedchat


RT @isleofmandan: Don't underestimate time reqd to try something

new. Many teachers want to use tech but can't find gap between

marking & meetings! #ukedchat


More evidence that "schooling" becoming increasingly irrelevant to

societal practices? http://bit.ly/fs0hYq #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:48

@cornish_james in mine the restrictions means no controlled

assessments can be done with ICT. not enough machines, #ukedchat

TeacherToolkit 20:48

#ukedchat I rarely see an IWB being used interactively! Next gimmick

will be touch tables & 3D touch walls with 30 kids all out of seats!

Janshs 20:48

<sigh> RT @ JOHNSAYERS @ @islayian It's typical that teachers are

expected to teach students but don't teach each other?! #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:48

@harrisonmike @Joga5 adults have to use it everywhere. Cash

machines, car parks, self serve tills. Need basics to survive #ukedchat


@bucharesttutor: I believe that technology must definitely be taught

but taken in a gentle n systematic manner #ukedchat

isleofmandan 20:49

Some tchrs tentatively try a web resource, only to find it blocked in

school! Time to ditch filtering and give teachers all tools. #ukedchat

colport 20:49 @JOHNSAYERS Someone keeps forgetting the #ukedchat hash tag ;-)

ianaddison 20:49

Whose fault is it if teachers can't keep up with a subject? ICT moves so

quickly and I understand it is hard for some to keep up #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:49

@john_at_muuua Tech or no tech. We are all doing want we do to

make our children achieve. If that means no tech, I'm all for it.

#ukedchat


@withoutmotive @cherrylkd #ukedchat @jcbarrington - I can't use an

IWB but I blog tweet and use video

clairegowland 20:50

#ukedchat Forget IWB's what about using mobile phones, ipads etc in

class!

Joga5 20:50

@harrisonmike Part of the question was also should we steer clear of

tech whilst improving their other areas #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:50

cards on the table. I LOVE tech. But my best lesson was teaching

'Hamlet' in a school in Sri Lanka. No tech at all. #ukedchat

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AtkiTeach 20:52

@clairegowland #ukedchat Mobile phones? Don't let Mr Gove hear u

suggest that!

bellaale 20:52

RT @isleofmandan: Some tchrs tentatively try a web resource, only to

find it blocked in school! Time to ditch filtering and give teachers all

tools. #ukedchat

clairegowland 20:52RT @mrcICT: @clairegowland #ukedchat Not if Gove has anything to dowith it! >> True! How short sighed of him

JCBarrington 20:52

@reflectivemaths #ukedchat It shouldn't be used as just projection. I

love making starter activities that involve the chn with the IWB

KristianStill 20:52 @harrisonmike @Joga5 but what about improving learning? #ukedchat


#ukedchat - not only can I not use IWB I also hate MLE which are so

private. But I'm no Luddite - honest!


@JOHNSAYERS unfortunately zero! But our team of 4 IT support

technicians work really well with feeder primary schools. #ukedchat#TTkit

harrisonmike 20:52

@Joga5 I think basics should be emphasised. Tech often complicates

the matter, if ya ask me #ukedchat

bellaale 20:52

#ukedchat tech helps us move focus away from teaching and onto

learning... "teach less so they learn more" (@johndavitt, #pelc11)

AtkiTeach 20:53

@mrcICT #ukedchat AUP - that's why people afraid of tech: it's a new

language too dense to get unless ur in the know.

ciaje74 20:53

I love the interesting ways created by @tombarrett they're so helpful

and great resources to introduce staff to use ICT creatively #ukedchat

tonycassidy 20:53

Did anyone show a 'tech-challenged' colleague twitter and invite them

to follow #ukedchat tonight? Just thinking outloud

harrisonmike 20:53

@KristianStill @Joga5 'Forget teaching, focus on learning' ~ @willycard

#ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:53

RT @bellaale: #ukedchat "teach less so they learn more" (@johndavitt,

#pelc11) Was a great quote I saw today


@reflectivemaths @bucharesttutor #ukedchat To teach Twitter, teach

blogging first. Get the students used to reading/writing online.

JOHNSAYERS 20:53

RT @jackieschneider: RT @MrAColley: @isleofmandan They trust us

with the kids but not the Internet! #ukedchat #ukedchat

colport 20:53

@mrcICT I think pupils should be aware of what twitter is. It's always in

the news etc. #ukedchat

dicox 20:53

#ukedchat reluctant teachers need time, support, patience and to see

successful use by peers. Even then sometimes it doesn't work :(

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ianaddison 20:54

There are some teachers who make great use of tech. The TES is

highlighting their work each week, contact @todayilike to nominate

#ukedchat

colport 20:54

@tonycassidy It's easy to do http://bit.ly/cqDeUJ No twitter account

needed to watch! #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:54@harrisonmike #ukedchat Agreed. But wouldn't you use IWB to at leastput a pic of book on to interest and excite children? I would.

cornish_james 20:54

@tonycassidy if they did then they might be a little bit scared after

reading some of these tweets #ukedchat

jodieworld 20:54

Rewriting the ICT Curriculum to avoid daunting "full-on" ICT lessons,

teaching TAs and plenty of Staff Meeting time have worked #ukedchat


RT @StephanieBaier: @reflectivemaths @bucharesttutor #ukedchat

To teach Twitter, teach blogging first. Get the students used toreading/writing online.

JamiePortman 20:54


computer, deserves to be.â€ It's about how well tech is used. >>>

AGREED!

Arakwai 20:54

#ukedchat So what would be your favourite use of technology you

would encourage colleagues to try? ;-)

Educationchat 20:54

RT @JCBarrington: RT @bellaale: #ukedchat "teach less so they learn

more" (@johndavitt, #pelc11) Was a great quote I saw today

JOHNSAYERS 20:54

My friend @njpiercy will tell you about his school. Hreat trips to

Iceland, South Africa. But no blogging. internet risk. Pfft #ukedchat

clairegowland 20:54

#ukedchat some interesting highlights from Plymouth eLEarning Conf

http://bit.ly/fVx5Ub worth a look #pelc11


@tonycassidy #ukedchat I did a little PD session on Twitter last week.

11 teachers showed up. 2 have tweeted back since. :-)


@TeacherToolkit I think one of the best features of an IWB is it's

interactive & you can save your work to continue next lesson.

#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:54 @dicox teachers are people. tech forgets that too often, #ukedchat

b3ndavi3s 20:55

@ianaddison #ukedchat can pupils blog what they want? Do they ask

permission first? Like the page. Would love advice on setting one up

stevebunce 20:55

Apologies to regular #ukedchat attendees, the NE #ukedchatters may

be eating curry next Thurs 8pm #curryNE3 http://t.co/8n4hEF1

JOHNSAYERS 20:55 I invited a few teachers but going to show them the archive:) #ukedchat

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AtkiTeach 20:55

#ukedchat I work in 1 scholl where most stuff blocked and kids don't

get an email address unless they're doing GCSE IT & have passed a test.

gregkulowiec 20:55

RT @JamiePortman: RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat â€œAny teacher that

can be replaced by a computer, deserves to be.â€ It's about how well

tech is used. >>> AGREED!

jodieworld 20:55

#ukedchat there is still a long road ahead to get everyone tech

confident but getting there! Mountains are there to be climbed!

ICTEvangelist 20:55

RT @ianaddison: There are some teachers who make great use of tech.

The TES is highlighting their work each week, contact @todayilike to

nominate #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:55

Sometimes you wonder how we were ever educated without this

technology... #ukedchat

reflectivemaths 20:55@mrcICT @bucharesttutor Yep. Loads of my students don't use it at all.#ukedchat

isleofmandan 20:55

Daft, isn't it? RT @MrAColley @isleofmandan They trust us with the

kids but not the Internet! #ukedchat


@StephanieBaier @reflectivemaths maybe a little bit of html n access

as well #ukedchat

MrAColley 20:55

@mrcICT @reflectivemaths @bucharesttutor #ukedchat I think most

kids could 'use' a razor, but I wouldn't let them shave untrained!

he4therw4t5on 20:55

#UKEdChat #edchat EYFS teachers - what are your thoughts on

deconstructed play? Is there any research i can read on it??

withoutmotive 20:55 How soon after tonight's #ukedchat will it appear in the archive?


#ukedchat Anyone think they can convince #Gove & @DfEfeed to put

#ICT on the #EngBacc #EBacc ?


@AtkiTeach @mrcICT #ukedchat ... less AUP and more digital

citizenship training.


@reflectivermaths "How would you teach students Twitter?" I

wouldn't, I'd ask them to learn it, if there were a reason to. #ukedchat

colport 20:56

Last few minutes of this #ukedchat session hosted by @Joga5 Before

you go, vote for @janwebb21 's session next week http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

ukedchat 20:56

Last few minutes of this #ukedchat session hosted by @Joga5 Before

you go, vote for @janwebb21 's session next week http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

dicox 20:56

RT @ciaje74: I love the interesting ways created by @tombarrett

they're so helpful and great resources to introduce staff to use ICT

creatively #ukedchat


@JCBarrington That's cool. Any reason why you can't do that as part of

the main? #ukedchat

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john_at_muuua 20:56

bad tech experience for me was a 2 hour fantastic demo of a voting

device, only to find it cost 3 times my dept's capitation #ukedchat

JamiePortman 20:56

RT @MrAColley #ukedchat WIIFM - what's in it for me. Staff need to be

shown how tech can engage, enhance & extend learning >>> AGREED

AGAIN!

AtkiTeach 20:57

RT @withoutmotive: I need to point out tomorrow that we havethousands of pounds worth of IWBs being used as just projection

screens #ukedchat


@StephanieBaier @bucharesttutor Good point. Blogging should be

commonly done by students (I believe) #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:57

I think that using tech to teach savvy kids makes some teachers self

conscious. Like teaching MFL in front of a native speaker. #ukedchat


#ukedchat - give every teacher an iPad or iPhone and let them play.

That would be my ICT strategy :-)

stuayres 20:57

RT @isleofmandan: Some tchrs tentatively try a web resource, only to

find it blocked in school! Time to ditch filtering and give teachers all

tools. #ukedchat


@MrAColley @mrcICT @reflectivemaths best way of teaching get your

act done in 160 characters #ukedchat

cmac_uk 20:57

What about SEN and accessibility - there is a moral imperative for

teachers to become savvy #ukedchat

StephanieBaier 20:57 @bucharesttutor #ukedchat Access? As in MS Access?

Joga5 20:57

@john_at_muuua Likewise IWB demos by reps and some consultants

were killers for staff #ukedchat

mrcICT 20:57

#ukedchat Way to teach ICT? Don't teach ICT lessons! Why not use ICT

as a tool to teach other subjects? That way might be a bit interesting!

cherrylkd 20:57

@reflectivemaths @JCBarrington #ukedchat No I agree. just mean as a

little bit for frightened teachers. They might like it + be encouraged

JOHNSAYERS 20:57

@stevebunce:Apologies to regular attendees, the NE #ukedchatters

may be eating curry next Thurs 8pm #curryNE3 http://t.co/8n4hEF1

#ukedchat


RT @JOHNSAYERS: RT @jackieschneider: RT @MrAColley:

@isleofmandan They trust us with the kids but not the Internet!

#ukedchat #ukedchat

withoutmotive 20:57

I need to point out tomorrow that we have thousands of pounds worth

of IWBs being used as just projection screens #ukedchat


True, but kids are using it to learn @harrisonmike @cherrylkd Tech

isn't needed to teach #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:58RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - give every teacher an iPad or iPhoneand let them play. That would be my ICT strategy :-)

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tonycassidy 20:58

best lesson I've ever observed was a teacher with a piece of coal, tried

to replicate it with the coal on PPT- didn't work ;) #ukedchat

cornish_james 20:58

What I hear from kids is ICT lessons are boring,It needs to be stretch

kids, alot of it they can do this when they r 5 #ukedchat

JCBarrington 20:58

@reflectivemaths #ukedchat. Trying to allow 30 children in one session

to use the IWB is hard without failing at empowering the students

john_at_muuua 20:58

it's official. time has flow! gotta go put my daughter to bed! thanks

guys. great chat. shame about the tech! ;-) #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:59

#ukedchat - we need smoother systems so we can rely on the tech

more!

AtkiTeach 20:59 #ukedchat Enjoyed it. Thanks.

kekkelkekkel 20:59@ICTmagic If you have savvy kids, you need to leave them to get on[and explore more] and teacher fills the gaps - if any #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:59

@jackieschneider The confidence to play & the know that they can't

break a device is very important to learn how to use it. #ukedchat

bellaale 20:59

RT @Educationchat: Sometimes you wonder how we were ever

educated without this technology... #ukedchat > lol

JOHNSAYERS 20:59

@cornish_james agreed My little Oracle keeps saying I wish ICT will let

me show what I can do! He's made a sketch up F1 track:) #ukedchat

TimothyRaybould 20:59

Just got in. Students been geocaching in school today, bluetooth on

mobiles yesterday #UKEdChat

xPunzx 20:59

#ukedchat - my problem with using tech (which I do alot) is the

unpredictability of it-so often it doesnt work, and u have 2 have a bck

up!

ianpocock 20:59

@TeacherToolkit #ukedchat technology put men on moon, split the

atom & unleashed the internet. Education absolutely but with

technology


I think too many teachers believe that their students know more about

tech than we do... it's just not true. #ukedchat

AtkiTeach 20:59

RT @ICTmagic: I think that using tech to teach savvy kids makes some

teachers self conscious. Like teaching MFL in front of a native speaker.

#ukedchat

ukedchat 20:59

It's 9pm. Many thanks to @Joga5 for hosting this #ukedchat session,

under tough twitter circumstances.

AtkiTeach 20:59

@jackieschneider #ukedchat Agrred: let teachers have a play and let

them come up with the ways they'll use it.

stuayres 20:59

â€œ@JCBarrington: @TeacherToolkit #ukedchat IWBs are best used

effectively in inputs and plenaries.â€ and with http://t.co/9zjlMlr !

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dicox 20:59

@john_at_muuua #ukedchat funny that applies both ways I am afraid!

Patience a virtue for both teachers and techs


@StephanieBaier yes MS Access n maybe also the basics of MS Word,

Excel n PowerPoint not necessarily in that order #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:59

@chris_1974 #ukedchat Its a small start though. Better than nothing.

And better than tech for tech's sake.

cornish_james 21:00

My form just complain that all they do is powerpoints! Is that schools

facilities, curriculum or teachers fault. Or all 3? #ukedchat

Joga5 21:00

#ukedchat After an hour of technical problems thanks for all of your

tweets


@reflectivemaths @StephanieBaier also exposing them to a certain

electronic whiteboard would be a good step ahead #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 21:00

@tonycassidy what was the focus of the lesson with the coal?

#ukedchat

JCBarrington 21:00

Really enjoyed tonight's #ukedchat. Thank you for some great

conversation

cmac_uk 21:00

A leader is like a shepherd...stays behind the flock, letting the most

nimble go ahead...the others follow, directed from behind,#ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 21:00

RT @JamiePortman: RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat â€œAny teacher that

can be replaced by a computer, deserves to be.â€ It's about how well

tech is used. >>> AGREED!


@bucharesttutor I think basic file manipulation needs to come first. We

don't teach them to read before they learn the alphabet. #ukedchat

colport 21:00

Poll for next Thursday #ukedchat session, hosted by @Janwebb21 now

live at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

ukedchat 21:00

Poll for next Thursday #ukedchat session, hosted by @Janwebb21 now

live at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

stuayres 21:00

@john_at_muuua speaking of cheap teaching tech, seen this:

http://t.co/Y9SZ0mw #ukedchat

withoutmotive 21:00

@ukedchat How long after tonight's discussion will #ukedchat be in the

archive?

ianaddison 21:00

I have a couple of staff on Twitter but don't think they'd ever join in

#ukedchat, it is intense! I'm proud to help and support it though!

ukedchat 21:00

Poll for next Thursday session, hosted by @Janwebb21 now live at

http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

chris_1974 21:01

RT Wow. Fab night. Thankyou @Joga5. Now need to start school work

for tomorrow.#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 21:01 @cornish_james yes it was! #ukedchat

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mrcICT 21:01

RT @cmac_uk: "A leader is like a shepherd...stays behind the flock,

letting the most nimble go ahead...the others follow, directed from

behind,"#ukedchat

colport 21:01

@ianaddison You could always share the #ukedchat summaries

http://bit.ly/drEXGy

stevebunce 21:01

RT @ukedchat: Last few minutes of this #ukedchat session hosted by

@Joga5 Before you go, vote for @janwebb21 's session next week

http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

harrisonmike 21:02

@cherrylkd Honestly, no point using tech if u r merely substituting

something. It should be abt transforming practice at its best #ukedchat

cornish_james 21:02

@john_at_muuua 1500quid arnt they. The quizzes take ages to make.

Tend not to work or fail 2 collect scores! Useless #ukedchat

cherrylkd 21:02

@Joga5 #ukedchat Thanks for another good debate. I've learned that

not everyone's as tech savvy as I thought. Thanks


@StephanieBaier we can atleast try taking all of them step by step

#ukedchat

stuayres 21:02

#ukedchat is wonderful. Thanks all. I keep trying to get all those tech-

resistant colleagues to try it!

ukedchat 21:02

@WithoutMotive The #ukedchat archive will be pulled in approx 15

mins, and are always available from http://bit.ly/dAczkX

JOHNSAYERS 21:02

Thank you again everyone:) You've given me more ideas to take back to

school to turbo boost ideas for:) #ukedchat

JCBarrington 21:02

@cornish_james #ukedchat Powerpoints are too easy to use poorly.

They can be a powerful tool when you see some of the plugins

however.

ICTmagic 21:02

@kekkelkekkel True. The teacher should worry about the task and let

the children to strive for solutions, with or without tech. #ukedchat

stuayres 21:03 Thanks also @Joga5 #ukedchat

withoutmotive 21:03

@ukedchat Brilliant. Thanks. I'll be showing it to various members of

staff tomorrow. #ukedchat

BobToms100 21:03




#ukedchat - I ve never confessed this before but I hate IWBs. Kids all

facing front gawping at board & fidgeting fills me with horror

ianaddison 21:03

@colport I know...small steps though. It's a complete culture shift,

most teachers want wine in the evening, not cpd #ukedchat

dominiccheng 21:03took part in #ukedchat for the first time tonight - will be doing more soin the future!

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RT @bellaale: RT @Educationchat: Sometimes you wonder how we

were ever educated without this technology... #ukedchat > lol

ICTmagic 21:04

Agreed RT @harrisonmike No point using tech if u r merely substituting.

It should be abt transforming practice at its best. #ukedchat


@StephanieBaier Absolutely agree. Lots of my kids have either neverheard of Podcasts, Blogging, etc or don't know what they are.

#ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 21:04

RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat Anyone think they can convinceJust

can't understand why it is not on! My students don't understand it

either!


@cherrylkd @Joga5 slow n steady, we all will be there n yes if in need

of any help, me always there #ukedchat

dicox 21:05

@joga5 Thanks for #ukedchat tonight - first time I have taken part fully

- was fun. Happy holidays all :)


Thanks a lot @Joga5 for a wonderful #ukedchat. Have a wonderful

evening all, follow me if you need regular Math, ICT stories from all

globe


#ukedchat the best #CPD for teachers is not fancy #ICT tools, but to get

all staff to "re-train & change bad habits" @dylanwiliam #IoE

JOHNSAYERS 21:06

Thank you for @aknill for pointing out my typo:) SCORM not SCORN:)

#ukedchat


My 9 year old is taking my laptop to complete a homework assignment.

I must log off. :-) #ukedchat

ukedchat 21:06

@WithoutMotive The #ukedchat summaries are more digestible

though...http://bit.ly/drEXGy

ICTmagic 21:07

@kekkelkekkel I agree. But teachers may not want to lose face. They

should for the sake of the children. But it's human nature. #ukedchat

cornish_james 21:07

Great #ukedchat even if I did miss the first 30mins! Now back to Amen

Corner #Masters2011

Joga5 21:07 @dicox I am glad you enjoyed it - welcome to #ukedchat!

chrisrat 21:08

RT @JOHNSAYERS Thank you for @aknill for pointing out my typo:)

SCORM not SCORN:) #ukedchat <-- like the idea of SCORN compatible

resources!


@TeacherToolkit #ukedchat I think the best CPD is actually just getting

teachers to talk to each other about teaching.

ICTmagic 21:08

One of my kids just posted a blog. That warms the heart strings after

this debate. #ukedchat

TeacherToolkit 21:09 Oh & everybody taking part in #ukedchat pls follow @TheHeadsOffice

JCBarrington 21:09RT @clairegowland: #ukedchat some interesting highlights fromPlymouth eLEarning Conf http://bit.ly/fVx5Ub worth a look #pelc11

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PhilWheeler1 21:09

@TeacherToolkit @DfEfeed #ukedchat. Do you want young people

with the up to date skills to drag the UK back near (cont)

http://tl.gd/9nfuf5

harrisonmike 21:10 @Joga5 agreed, both positively and negatively. #ukedchat

fboss 21:10

RT @colport: @ianaddison You could always share the #ukedchat

summaries http://bit.ly/drEXGy

Joga5 21:10

RT @bucharesttutor: Thanks a lot @Joga5 for a wonderful #ukedchat.

Have a wonderful evening all, follow me if you need regular Math, ICT

stories from all globe

PhilWheeler1 21:10

RT @TeacherToolkit: #ukedchat the best #CPD for teachers is not fancy

#ICT tools, but to get all staff to (cont) http://tl.gd/9nfumk

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