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The evolution of adviser charging models in practice. Dennis Hall – Yellowtail Financial Planning Adam Young – Dragonfly Planning. Objectives for the Business. To develop a valuable client centric proposition To provide services that a client wants and needs at a commercially viable price. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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The evolution of adviser charging models in practiceDennis Hall – Yellowtail Financial PlanningAdam Young – Dragonfly Planning

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Objectives for the Business

To develop a valuable client centric proposition

To provide services that a client wants and needs at a commercially viable price

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Understanding your target market

Positioning your suite of services (and skills) around opportunities and threats that your target market are facing

Becoming the “go to” specialist in that sector/market

Building a trusted relationship and community to enhance your services

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The Solutions ......

Avoiding product noise.......

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Dragonfly Evolution

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Attributes for Success

VALUE

Source: JP Morgan

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Dragonfly’s Journey & Perspective

The world is changing, and we must adapt to survive

Working on a pure fee basis has removed perceived conflict of interest

Our primary operational model is based on flat fees renewed annually

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Yellowtail story – fees version 1.0Single (value based) fee - our wish list• Easy to understand• Rewarded us for advice on other assets• Removed any product biases• Alignment of interests• Attractive to long term client relationships• Sustainable • RDR ready• Market advantage• Removed from commission model

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Yellowtail story – fees version 1.0Single (value based) fee - results• Lasted less than a year• Existing clients initially accepted it• Prospective clients sceptical• Nobody liked it (including us)• Raised more questions than it answered• ‘Horse’ trading over value of other assets

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Yellowtail story – fees version 2.0Range of tiered fixed fees• Sign on fee• Negotiate from £5,000• Annual fees based on AUM• Broadly 0.5% or less• Focus on Financial Planning• Annual or more frequent reviews• Capped• Calculated on an underlying hourly rate

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Yellowtail story – fees version 2.0Range of tiered fixed fees – the results• Easier to explain• Too much negotiating on the initial fee• Too much emphasis on Financial Planning• Sold lots of financial plans• Didn’t build AUM quickly• Difficult cash-flow position• Trouble with value proposition during credit crunch• Doing more work than we were being paid for

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Yellowtail story – fees version 3.0Fixed, Hourly and Value Based Fees.• Financial Planning Fee 50% up front - 50% on completion• £2,500+VAT initial • Implementation fee based on hours spent (VAT exempt)• Value based fee 0.5% AUM (+VAT)• Introduced Satisfaction Guarantee• Created value proposition for financial planning• Sample menu of charges for implementation

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Yellowtail story – fees version 3.0Fixed, Hourly and Value Based fees – Results• Attracted financial planning work • A barrier to people wanting long term relationship• Better cash-flow but long time before AUM increased• Clients nervous about hourly fees• Happy to pay fees for each stage • Still not making decent profit

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Yellowtail story – fees version 4.0Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees • Kept the initial fee the same• Changed to value based fees for implementation• Increased the ongoing AUM from 0.5% to 1% on first £1m• 0.35% funds in excess of £1m• Additional project fees for planning

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Yellowtail story – fees version 4.0Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees – Results• Increased revenue – best ever half year results• Lost some clients who wanted cheap work• Appeals to our HNW clients• Better client engagement• Moved everybody across

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Yellowtail story – fees version 4.1Fixed, Value and Value Based Fees – next• Reduce the costs of entry• Speed up the pace of engagement• Refine the menu of additional services• Sell higher value planning

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Professional Partnering

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Freedom....

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