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By Nicole Ball Email the author January 7 2013

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Everything Mike Higgins says now is calculated It has to be In a political environment where gun control has become the main topic of discussion onmost news networks Higgins is feeling the heat for planning to open a sporting goods shop near the Branford Green which happens to sell shootingsports equipment including guns Hersquos also getting support from sporting enthusiasts and small business champions

But his idea to have an outdoor sports business placed on ldquoMain Streetrdquo is not novel or pioneering at all In fact the plans to open this sporting goodsstore now to be called TGS Outdoors ndash it was formerly The Gun Stockndash with Brian Owens is supposed to be like a re-birth of North Cove Outfittersmdashthe outdoors sporting goods shop which operated on Main Street in Old Saybrook for 23 years before closing last March Owens was a manager of thestore for 18 years specializing in the sale of fly fishing equipment optics and shooting sports

The difference between Old Saybrook and Branford said Ownes is the width of Main Street and the fact that there was median divider in the road in OldSaybrook

ldquoPeople would bring their kids in There was no fear It was a sportsman store as this will berdquo Higgins said

Higgins explains that he was a loyal customer of North Cove for years and got to know Owens at the store ldquoIt was a store I loved I learned more aboutoptics and telescopes from Brian than anyone else ever It was so much fun to go in there and see all the new things I was so upset when it closedrdquo

But the closure of North Cove brought Higgins a longtime insurance salesman to consider opening a sportsmans shop of his own featuring the storersquostop-selling items The main departments of TGS Outdoors will be archery shooting sports and optics ndash cutlery and huntingtarget clothing will also besold

TGS Outdoors Sporting Goods Shop Comes to theGreenSome people want it to open others strongly disagree Wherever you stand you should at leastget to know the owners and the business before you decide

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Doing market research Higgins and Owens decided Branford was the perfect location with its proximity to seven shooting clubsranges in a 35-mileradius ndash one of which is in Branford Members of these clubs which cater to as many as 1000 people each are the new shoprsquos target demographicthey said

ldquoThese are guys that Irsquove known all my life They leave town and they go up to Newingtown or they go up to Cabelas and they spend money up thereSo I would rather as a local person see money spent hererdquo said Higgins

Shopping local is something Higgins is very familiar with as his wife Arabella Higgins was the owner of Arabellarsquos ndash a clothing and accessory boutique ndashwhere TGS Outdoors will be For more than a decade Arabella worked to make the business a success in the community She chose to close the shopthis past summer in favor of spending more time with her children You can read more about her journey here

ldquoWe are a small business and we support local small businessrdquo said Higgins ldquoWe hope they support usrdquo

Higgins a native of Madison said hersquos familiar with local downtown shopping and doesnrsquot see anything different about the Branford Green from othertowns ldquoDowntown Branford doesnrsquot have anything that every other downtown ndash Guilford Madison ndash has They all have beauty salons they all have nailsalons they all have ice cream shops they all have little restaurants In order to bring new people in you have to bring something different and NorthCove Outfitters was that different thingrdquo He added ldquoWe will be able to bring in people who would normally never come into downtown Branford nowthey willrdquo

Already Higgins and Owens say theyrsquove had an impact and not the negative one some have alleged regarding their sale of hunting and target rifles aswell as hand guns ldquoHow is this going to affect downtown Wersquove already had an affect Wersquove brought more business to downtown and wersquore not evenopenrdquo said Higgins During one of their recent eight-hour courses more than 20 students some of whom had never been to the Branford Green dinedat Shoreline Cafeacute and shopped at the local clothing boutiques shared Higgins

ldquoWe are going to be a destination store These people are going to come in together one spouse may come here while the other one goes shoppingalong the streetrdquo said Higgins of his hope to add to local commerce

With merchandise for hunting and target shooting ndash rifles handguns and archery ndash therersquos still the elephant in the room will the business providesafeguards against potential crime

Higgins and Owens are quick to respond ldquoYesrdquo

ldquoAn unnamed law enforcement officer said lsquoYou have more security than most of the banks in townrsquordquo Higgins commented

Other safety measures include high-rated glass on the front windows cameras inside and outside bars on the windows on the side of the building anda locked metal gate which will be pulled over the front doors when the business is closed There are many other safety measures that the businessowners do not want to divulge at the moment as well

The owners said residents should know that guns would never be on display in the storersquos windows Instead the casual passerby will see a scenicdisplay the current one features decoy ducks with spinning arms a deer and trees a 100-year-old trap clay target thrower and a brass spotting scope

In a past article about 2013 Branford Business Development some readers wanted to know how the town would allow a shop that sold guns on theGreen as well if the owners had received background checks The short answer is that the town did approve this business for operation and yes theowners have endured federal background checks and licensing to open Please see more details below

Although they hope to enhance downtown commerce TGS Outdoors might not be staying on the Green for the long haul Higgins and Owens said theyhave hopes to outgrow their space at 1156 Main Street with the goal to move to a place four times the size Until then Higgins and Owns said the goalis provide a small ldquomom and poprdquo shop for the outdoors sports enthusiast

Touting that they are probably one of the only outdoor sports shops with oriental carpets and matching burgundy overhead lighting fixtures Higgins andOwens said they welcome anyone with concerns to stop by and see the business They have plans to open within the month

TGS Outdoors MerchandiseShooting Sports

Shot guns for skeet trap target and huntingComplete line of gun cleaning accessoriesLock boxes for ammunition and gunsLarger lock boxes for riflesScopesTargetsHuntingTarget clothingTraditional and compound archery bows and arrowsArchery equipment accessories and gear

Optics

Binoculars

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Spotting scopesOptics for bird watchersTelescopes

Education amp Service

Books on hunting and shootingFree gun safety classCT Pistol Course (fee)Gun repair

Cutlery

AxesKnivesKnife sharpening serviceKitchen knivesPocket knivesGift knife sets

More on CT Gun LawsNo one ndash with some excpetions for certain officials ndash can carry or purchase a handgun in the state of Connecticut without a permitA rifle can be purchased with a 15-day wait period for background checkIt is mostly illegal for anyone in the state to possess an assault weapon (read more here)

Steps to Open TGS OutdoorsOwners called Branford Police Chief Kevin Halloran and ran business plan and intent by himOne week later they received comment from Branford Police Department that they did not see an issue with owners proceedingOwners approach Town Hall for approval Because business does not require change of use (retail to retail) they do not appear in front of Board

but are able to go through process with the departmentThe owners make an application for a Federal Firearms License (FFL)Owners are fingerprinted have identification checked and submit to FBI background checks by the ATF to obtain FFLATF interviews owners inspects the business and reviews recordsLocal law enforcement visits shop and is required to approve based upon their review of security system (Branford Fire Department is also made

privy to security and given a copy of keys in case of emergency)Owners receive FFL license Prepare for opening

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Stuart Brainerd919 am on Monday January 7 2013

Thank you for the follow up article I hope it has addressed some of the concerns that have been expressed following the previous one

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Robert B919 am on Monday January 7 2013

Why decide to just stop at huntingtarget shooting optics and cutlery Why not include fishing equipment and supplies also to get local fishermenbehind this as well As far as I know theres really nowhere in the center of town that sells rods reels and tackle

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Mary Fitzgerald919 am on Monday January 7 2013

I am sure they are very nice men but I think a store that sells guns in the center of town is terribly wrong This is a walk by area where many familieswith children are seen They say they will bring new people to town Yes gun owners I dont want the center of town to be a destination for huntersI hope one of 2 things happens they go out of business or move to bigger location I hope that happens quickly

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm112 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Why are Hunters any different than anyone else They are not going to hunt on the green They will just make a purchase and go abouttheir business like any other customer in any other type of store

Flag as inappropriateJulia544 pm on Friday January 11 2013

LOL get a grip Mary Take your meds and come back to earth

Flag as inappropriateMike Butler209 am on Saturday March 23 2013

OMG thats ridiculous You are such a hater I hope someday you find peace YOU are whats terribly worng

Flag as inappropriateJenna919 am on Monday January 7 2013

I find it interesting that when this business was first being talked about it was a gun store Its target market was women who wanted to buy guns

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There was nothing about it in the beginning that said Outdoor Sports Now half of Branford makes it clear they dont want a gun store on thegreen and all of a sudden its all about outdoor sports and oh yeah by the way we also sell guns

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm120 pm on Monday January 7 2013

I see it as the owners simply trying to make a effort to explain their store better and appease anyones unfounded fears They changed thename to try better reflect what the store is and what they want the store to grow into once they are established and the business grows Ifyou allready have a negative close minded attitude towards the store then what ever these guys say or do you will see as bad Shame

Flag as inappropriateJulia546 pm on Friday January 11 2013

Yea that darn hardware store has to go to Those mean looking knives and hammers ya know

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Lindsay923 am on Monday January 7 2013

Seems like a solid business Ill be stopping in when they open

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm121 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Me too And many many others

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Robert B931 am on Monday January 7 2013

Mary and Jenna Yes it does seem funny that at a time when the issue of gun control is a big one again a store that looks to open specifically tosell firearms would turn around and say Oh wait we decided to sell more than just guns and changed the name we were originally going to openwith Makes it feel like theyre doing it as an afterthought Not that I have any issue with a supposed outfitter shop coming to town mind you Myissue is the fact there will be guns sold out of it as well as bullets Take into consideration theres events held on the green that draw large crowdsas well as three schools within easy walking distance of TGS Outdoors As weve seen with Adam Lanzas rampage at Sandy Hook no amount ofprotective measures taken can stop a hellbent psychopath Beyond that why are they limiting themselves just to shooting supplies Why notinclude fishing equipment as well as bait and tackle How about camping equipment that you probably cant get at Walmart Speaking as an on and off fisherman the offerings for gear and services for my chosen pastime up at Walmart are lacking Id rather not drive toNorth Haven or Milford to go to Dicks or Sports Authority where its more of the same from Wally Id also not spend half the day driving toCabelas either Itd be nice to have a local shop where I could go there gear up with whatever I may need receive personalized service and bedown at the docks at Branford Point by the time the tide turns

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1213 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Hi Robert B Just wanted to make sure you are not just talking about location now It does appear from your post that you have a problemwith guns and bullets You posted a very similar post on the other Patch story about the store And I replied but perhaps you did not see itor chose to ignore it

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Flag as inappropriateMike Butler216 am on Saturday March 23 2013

You have a problem with guns and bullets And with the Constitution What the HELL does having schools within easy walking distancehave to do with ANYTHING Do you actually believe in your fevered mind that kids will go in there There are liquor storeseven closer (which are nowhere near as regulated as gun stores)whats your point

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J Lacey1028 am on Monday January 7 2013

Renaming and trying to soften the image of this business is wasted on the intelligent people of Branford TGS and or Gun Store does not belong onMain St The owners have aright yo their business I prefer it to be elsewhere

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm125 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Again if all you want to see is something bad thats all you will see It does not bother me and many others with the ability for rationalthought that the store is on Main St

Flag as inappropriateMichael Hoffman1110 am on Friday March 15 2013

Im sure the intelligent people of Branford already own guns

Flag as inappropriateMike Butler222 am on Saturday March 23 2013

We really are not interested in what you prefer their address to be Main Street is EXACTLY where this shop should be their products arecompletely legal (for those customers who pass strict background checks) and their clientele is upscale I prefer their rename to be Riflesand Pistols Etcetera That would get the point across

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Deborah Holston Selden1105 am on Monday January 7 2013

A gun shop is a gun shopnot needed anywhere

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm127 pm on Monday January 7 2013

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion As am I to say we need this store and more like it

Flag as inappropriateJulia547 pm on Friday January 11 2013

Planned Parenthood kills thousands of babies aday with taxpayer money I bet youd have no trouble with them next doot right

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1113 am on Friday March 15 2013

A print shop is a print shopnot needed anywhere A defense attorneys shop is a defense attorneys shopnot needed anywhere Should I continue or let Mary finish

Flag as inappropriateallen petri1055 pm on Friday March 15 2013

YOU ARE AN OPINIONATED LIBERAL FOOL ANYTHING----YOU----DONT LIKE SHOULD BE BANNED IF I FELT THE SAME WAY---I WOULD SAY GOODBYE TO YOU MOVE ELSEWHERE

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Robert B1136 am on Monday January 7 2013

J Lacey and Deborah Couldnt agree more based solely on the services they intend to offer as outlined above I quote Shotguns bowscrossbows bullets arrows crossbow bolts In short even though theyve changed the name it is still a gun store and still should be forced out ofthe center of Branford We dont need it as it currently stands in terms of their selection of offered goods I can agree with that sentiment However the pro second amendment nutcases will more than likely show up and tear us to shreds for our views as theyve done before Im notsaying I dont want to see it opening but it should not have been in the center and should not be near schools and where children have beenknown to play As to the location it was stupid of them to not put it before the representative town meeting beforehand Im guessing they knew if they had theywould not have had a chance to open in the old Arabellas location

Flag as inappropriateckb227 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

pro second amendment nutcases If you are against the constitution its your right to leave the country just as it is the right of thebusiness owners to open a store of their choosing Funny how you can assert that you may be torn to shreds yet you sit there and namecall behind a computer and see nothing wrong with the hypocrisy Ill give you an A+ for your dramatics though-where children have beenknown to playwhere the parking lot I never saw a playground on that site I think you probably need to untwist those knickers a bit

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Robert B1141 am on Monday January 7 2013

Also consider the following Not even a minute away by foot from TGS Outdoors there is a candy shop Would any parent in their right minds allowtheir child to go to a candy store that sits practically right next to a gun store Would any family in their right minds want to come to the Branford festival knowing that within a 2 minute walk from the green theres a pile ofweapons and ammunition As Ive said previously nothing in terms of security can stop one hellbent psychopath Weve seen that before JamesHolmes Jared Lee Loughner Adam Lanza Cho Seung-Hui Dillon and Klebold the list goes on One person with the right tools to break a fewlocks could break into this location steal a gun steal a magazine load up in a couple minutes time and then thered be bodies lying all over thegreen

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm108 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Well I know I was able to understand the part of the story when the Police Officer stated the store had better security than some of thebanks in town Oh and as far a pile of weapons What do you think is down the road at the National Guard armory Not to mention anythat might be privately owned in homes surrounding the green I rest easy knowing TGS has better security measures than those You seethese things as supplies for some hellbent psychopath bent on doing us harm And I see them as supplies for us to be able protectourselves from hellbent psychopath that want to do us harm I honestly think most families would not give the store a second thought before they went into the candy store

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Those mass shootings were horrible events and no one disputes it But in all fairness if you are going to list them you should at least list thenumbers of times people have used firearms to defend themselves and others I believe that those people opposed to TGS or any gunstore are letting their emotions get in the way of rational thought

Flag as inappropriateJim338 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Its so great to have local hometown sporting goods store feels like the good old days when I was able to go to my favorite place and talkabout fishing and camping stories Thanks fellas

Flag as inappropriateckb228 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

wow get a grip Do you really believe that a criminal is going to walk into a store and go through the process

Flag as inappropriateEd B658 pm on Wednesday January 9 2013

I would I have even brought my children into a gun store But we left cause they were smoking in there

Flag as inappropriateBruce Pantani955 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Would any family in their right minds want to come to the Branford festival knowing that within a 2 minute walk from the green theres a pileof weapons and ammunition I guess well find out next summer If were the only family that shows up for the fest I guess youre right On the other hand if anyone else shows up to enjoy their day as they have in the past Ill have to assume theyre all out of their minds Might even need a gun or two to defend myself from all of those mentally unstable folks

Flag as inappropriateMichael Hoffman1117 am on Friday March 15 2013

As a parent and being aware of matters concerning health and mortality I would be more inclined to keep my kids out of the candy storethen the sporting goods store

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Vanessa Conlin1200 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Branford has a nice Baitamp Tackle shop its called Fishermens Paradise 197 So Montowese st nice guys good service

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1227 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Thanks Vanessa Anybody think that perhaps that is the reason that TGS did not want to carry the same type of thing in their limited space They probably wont carry the same type of things TrailBlazer carries either It only makes good business sense to carry somethingdifferent

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LittleB1205 pm on Monday January 7 2013

You all are the problem with our world listen to the hate and intolerance you people have you dont want hunters in your town LoL people you soundjust like a bunch of bigots

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Robert B1212 pm on Monday January 7 2013

LittleB pay attention No one has said they dont want hunters in town If you enjoy hunting fine Good for you What we DONT want is a gun shopin the center of the town on the green So the only bigot I see here is yourself

Flag as inappropriateSteve R206 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Hey Robert PAY ATTENTION YOURSELF In an earlier post Mary Fitzgerald states Yes gun owners I dont want the center of town to be adestination for hunters So you are wrong AGAIN Robert I hate to tell you folks but there are a lot of hunters around hear They walkamong you Bwahahahaha

Flag as inappropriateckb234 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

not only hunters people who shoot sporting clays as well All law abiding citizens who are judging by these comments far more tolerantthan you seem to be

Flag as inappropriateMichael Hoffman1120 am on Friday March 15 2013

There are also sheepdogs among you Hopefully you will never know who they are until they are needed

Flag as inappropriateMike Butler225 am on Saturday March 23 2013

Robert B you are an idiot AND a bigot

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Robert B1229 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Rockland Farms Not too bright are you Its indeed about the location There are numerous other options these two gentlemen had to look atwhy pick one that turns out to be excessively disagreeable on all sides Im not saying you dont have a right to run a business Im saying you should run it as well as locate it in a responsible location These twomen could have even bought the location of the old Pasta Fair since a restaurant never seems to last in that place First it was Limelight then Primethen the Black Stallion Now its sitting abandoned again Its nowhere near schools nowhere near where large crowds gather and its a gooddistance away from the green That seems like a viable location for a gun shop Go up the road a bit further and theres a strip mall past Tremonteauto and a professional building that also sits primarily empty That would be another viable location for a gun shop If size matters down in ShortBeach right next to the post office is a third location that used to be a bar which went under a few years back Three locations nowhere near thegreen which would suit the needs of the owners of TGS

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Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1241 pm on Monday January 7 2013

There you go with the name calling again Saying I am not too bright shame on you I didnt know you were in on the planing stages of thisbusiness and had some inside info on what was and wasnt available to them You evidently know that all those place would cost the sameor less to rent or cost the same or less to provide the proper security I trust Mike and Brian to know what suits their needs better than you

Flag as inappropriateMike Butler231 am on Saturday March 23 2013

What the HELL does proximity to schools have to do with ANYTHING Seriously Do you actually believe (or FEEL) that kids areactually going to go in there Are you that clueless or brain-dead What the hell is your obsession with not being close to the greenMaybe we should make sure that there are no liquor stores (which are nowhere near as regulated) near the green

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Robert B1231 pm on Monday January 7 2013

As for it being excessively disagreeable on all sides you have the pro second amendment people such as yourself whore saying its fine theowners are responsible people that know what theyre doing then on the other hand you have people such as myself who say the green is familyfriendly and should stay family friendly Move the gun shop somewhere else

Flag as inappropriateckb236 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

move it somewhere else why because you are stamping your feet and having a temper tantrum Seems to me these owners are goingabove and beyond and just because you dont like something does not give you the right to try and control others How about you just learnto get along No one is saying you have to shop there

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Rockland Farm1231 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Easy there Robert It is perfectly ok for LittleB to call you a Bigot if he believes you to be one Just as it must be ok for you to call people nutcasesand stupid You are both well within your first amendment rights

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Robert B1245 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Rockland its not called being in on the planning stages its called knowing the town and which locations have been sitting empty for a longtime Obviously reading comprehension and long term memory are not your strong suits

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm141 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Ok so explain to me why you are better qualified to know the town than TGSs owners So far I have met more people in favor of the storethan those opposed to it There are other reasons for opening a business in certain locations than the fact that a minority is opposed to itLike I said before do have some sort of inside knowledge you can share with us about customer trafficoperating expenses or the retailsporting goods business that can enlighten about those other locations Now I could comment on the things that obviously are not yourstrong suits But I promised myself I would not stoop to your level And that I would attempt to keep all disputes to facts and not thosethings imagined or just based on emotion

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326 pm on Monday January 7 2013

No Robert B I am comimg at it from a different mindframe then you and lol your one great twister back at you

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LittleB339 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Listen to youself Robert B The way you speak its not just two sides having a diference of oppoin you and others speak as if these people are vilensand evil Your last piont was the best so far straight to it without emotion

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Stuart Brainerd802 pm on Monday January 7 2013

RobertB You are letting your fear and emotions dictate your responses There is no reason to resort to name calling or bullying (both of which youhave done) These two men have complied with every legal requirement and then some You dont want passing kids to see guns glorified yetthere will be none to see from the street You had an issue with the word gun in their business name they changed it You and others haveinsinuated that the owners have changed their business model from guns to other things to avoid public outcry Go back and read the originalinterview the things they list in this article are there as well but for some reason once you read gun store the rest was irrelevant

Of all the mentally ill individuals you listed did any of them commit crimes anywhere near the store where the guns were purchased You harp onLocation location location but there is no evidence location has anything to do with the chance of the kind of atrocity you fear happening

If you are uncomfortable with a gun store then do not patronize this one If the public doesnt want it to be there they will not prosper I suspect youare afraid they will do very well and your fears will be unfounded

I would suggest you get a thunder buddy for those times when the unknown scares you its a good way of dealing with things you dontunderstand

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm810 pm on Monday January 7 2013

Stu it is nice to read reasonable common sense comments such as yours Well done

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Kendra326 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Too bad Rockland Farm is hiding behind a name policing everyones comments and correcting their thinking the way HeShe seems fit

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm346 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Kendra if in fact that is your name I think that if you count you will see that the majority of posters dont use their full name or use someother type of identifier Is Kendra your full name Or perhaps you are the only one in the world with the name Kendra and thus easilyidentified I hope you dont live in a glass house with those stones your throwing I voice my opinion and you say I am correcting their wayof thinking Perhaps you should then practice what you preach and not police my comments Sorry but it is America and we both have theright to disagree and voice our opinions Not just you If I or others like me say things that point out your errors thats your problem If factsand the truth hurts you then perhaps you need to rethink your position

Flag as inappropriateKaren True639 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Interesting though isnt it That I was not embarrassed to hide behind a name Rockland Farms My name is Karen True and I am willing to

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admit that although I am not opposed to another gun store opening in Branford I believe the location should not be on Main Street

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Rockland Farm332 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Just out of curiosity I counted up the number of people posting up to this point and there have been 13 different folks Of those folks 7 have beenfor the store with 5 against With one poster that provided the location of a bait and tackle shop I didnt count her on either side Obviously not alandslide but it does poke holes in the claims by some that the majority are against it Of course from this point on any similar tabulation would notmatter as it could easily be swayed one way or the other by fake posting or posting by friends with no real conviction either way But it should givethose who think that if a vote was held on if the store would be allowed to open or not pause to think And I honestly think the majority of peoplewould not even bother to vote on this because the store opening is a non-issue to them And it probably was a waste of my time counting becausethe store owners have fulfilled all legal obligations and will be opening soon THANK GOODNESS because I can hardly wait It sounds like it will bea awesome store that will only get better and better I cant wait to take my wife and kids for something to eat downtown then maybe hit the candystore and others before spending some time in TGS Outdoors

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Pat655 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

I think this is an outstanding idea and as a certified NRA instructor I will back you up with whatever you need One of the complaints is that kids willbe walking by the store Last time I checked Walmart in many locations sell rifles too and I think children probably walk right passed them therealso Dont listen to these idiots They are under the assumption that guns will get up and walk out of your store and force themselves into childrenshands Side note during the next Branford Fest i really hope they shut down Ashleys ice cream because those spoons in there force ice cream rightinto your mouth adding to the obesity epidemic in this town

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Rockland Farm922 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Karen True I am not sure I see your point I dont see you chastising the folks who agree with your position for not using their full names just me Iam not hiding behind anything and would never have thought to accuse those with a differing opinion than mine of hiding behind a user name Actually I think using your full name is somewhat foolish on a format such as this As a obvious gun owner it is wrong for the same reason as it wasirresponsible for that NY news paper to publish all the names of those people that have pistol permits If you had included everyone who hadposted here that used a user name instead of their real name of hiding behind it then your statement would have some validity But it just comesacross like you are grasping at straws because of a lack of any substance to back up your side of the debate You like others on your side cantseem to make any point that is not easily disputed Because you only use unfounded fears and emotion not facts and common sense If by usingyour full name it gives you some sort of feeling of superiority well good luck with that I happen to think that debate based on facts and truths is themature way to work out our differences Unfortunately you and others on your side seem to resort to insults and name calling Too bad

Flag as inappropriateKaren True938 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

Please do not accuse me of name-calling when I am doing nothing of the sort I was answering as I was because you were questionning Kendra as to whether or not that was her real name And further there is no lackof substance to my position I claim nothing other than my opinion that it is inappropriate to have a Gun Store in the center of town Simple- nothing more

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1018 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

So questioning the owners intelligence and his fitness as a parent ( now deleted ) is ok and not insulting Or the false claim that guns will be visiblefrom the front window is ok even though it has no substance And accusing me of hiding behind a user name and it is some how wrong is notinsulting I said you and others resort to insults and name calling I guess in the strictest sense you did not call names but as one of the first posterson the original story you definitely got the ball rolling with the insults As far as questioning Kendra I thought it was pretty obvious I was making apoint She wasnt using her full name so I guess she is hiding also And I could call myself Barak Obama or Karen True II but that doesnt meanthats who I am I still wonder why you dont question those that share your opinion and have user names as to why they are hiding It is there for all

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to see when you insult or say something that is false ( unless deleted ) It is that simple

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Barbara1031 pm on Tuesday January 8 2013

I just moved here from Texas and I was trying to get away from this type of thing Im shocked Why would the town want this on the green I wouldbe disgusted even seeing it Fishing would be fine but hunting guns scopes etc NO WAY

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm526 am on Wednesday January 9 2013

Wow Barbara sorry you moved all the way from Texas to get away from a certain type of retail establishment Especially one that youprobably wont shop in But to tell you the truth I cant think of anywhere in the United States that doesnt have them If I was you I wouldbe disgusted with who ever told you we dont have stores of certain types on our Main Sts In Connecticut Plenty of people in Town and insurrounding communities seem to be looking forward to the store opening

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Denise436 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Less than 40 miles from Newtown and less than month since Sandy Hook and Branford CT is opening a gun shop in the heart of its town andcommunity In an area deemed to genteel for something distasteful as McDonalds Less than a half mile from two elementary schools and a highschool How Why I outraged disgusted and saddened

Flag as inappropriateMike Butler250 am on Saturday March 23 2013

Thats really stupid You dont know the difference between to and too And why is there no verb in I outraged disgusted andsaddened By the way what in the HELL does proximity to schools or any other facilities have ANYTHING to do with it If it wereright next door to five schools what difference would that make What does Newtown mean nobody can ever buy guns again ever Thisis a LEGAL product which kids CANNOT buy (nor anyone else if they dont pass a background check) Get over it and grow up REALLY

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Denise607 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Higgins is a Madison resident Let him open up his gun shop next to RJ Julia See how well that goes over You can change the name hide themerchandise behind a screen and throw a fishing pole in the window Its still a gun store

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm703 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Actually the article states Mike grew up in Madison And funny you mention RJ Julia I remember when Arts Sporting Goods was in thatbuilding Art sold guns and fishing tackle and was successfully there for years before moving to a larger location The store sadly closedafter Arts passing Many good memories of spending time in the store with my Dad and Art talking about hunting fishing and Arts time atWinchester

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm652 am on Thursday January 10 2013

I took a couple seconds and did a quick search and found a great many firearm retailers alot closer to Newtown in surrounding towns than Branfordis By all means take a look for yourself it is a easy search And to all those that say a gun store does not belong in a certain area I will repeat what

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another poster talked about which was to please provide the data that shows that having a store of that kind in any way shape or form increasescrime in its given area I am sure you will find your fears unfounded I agree the timing is a hard thing for some to come to grips with But theowners started this process long before Newtown and with stock already in the store and more to arrive shortly they cant sit idle They have toprovide for their families like anyone else As to the HOW I think the above article explains the process quite well The WHY is pretty straightforward Many local hunters target shooters outdoorsmenwomen want to spend their money in a locally owned business instead of impersonalbig box stores and are looking forward to it opening The thing that saddens me most about your post is the comment about the area being togenteel for McDonalds This leaves me with a feeling that some have a feeling of superiority In other words the haves dont want the have notsshopping in their area Not all of us dine in fancy restaurants some of us eat in Mcdonalds once in a while That attitude might point to a deeperproblem some might have locally

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ckb724 am on Thursday January 10 2013

I recently have taken up the sport of trap shooting and love that I will have a local outlet to purchase my supplies I must agree with Rockland thatthe arrogance coming from the opposing side is becoming obnoxious Personally Im getting a bit weary of hearing what I need what I dont needwhy I shouldnt participate in a sport all because of misinformation continually fed to those whove not taken any time to fully inform themselves onguns hunting sport shooting permits etcDarn right Im standing up for my 2nd amendment rights just like Ill stand up for your 1st amendmentrights to spew the progressive talking points

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Denise836 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Rockland Thanks for your comprehensive response Her you fail to address what I see as most disconcerting The proximity of gun sales to somany of our town schools Also my comment about McDonalds was an attempt at sarcasm not meant to divide the haves and have nots Division isthe seemingly the ploy of the NRA (as well as fear and distrust of the other side I am not looking to take your guns away Have an arsenal if youwish and feel the need But please just as I think many would be opposed to a sex shop next to Ashleys or strip club next to Ben and Jerry I findselling guns on our bucolic little green is distasteful Change the name put up a screen throw a fishing pole in the windowits still a gun shop

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Denise846 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Im pretty certain the reason we do not have McDonalds on the green is a matter of zoning just as I believe there to be zoning laws about the salesof liquor in proximity to liquor That is the how question I was asking

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Denise848 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Zoning laws regarding liquor sales in proximity to schools

Flag as inappropriateRobert B900 am on Thursday January 10 2013

This is exactly the point Ive been trying to make all along You cant sell liquor anywhere within x amount of feet from a school aplayground or a public area such as the green unless the shop were speaking of functions primarily as a restaurant The view on where agun store should go should be no less different TGS can go anywhere else in Branford last time I knew theres an empty storefront next toWilloughbys coffee shop that would be more suitable to their needs but not on the green

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We can go back and forth on our feelings of appropriateness of any type of store But the fact is TGS is not breaking any zoning rules orlaws And they are not breaking any town state or federal rules or laws I think that a underage person has far easier access to liquor thanfirearms Nobody does a background check on someone buying alcohol If you want to change laws or zoning rules and regulations youneed to get involved in local town government and try to change the laws you disagree with I also thought I did address the proximity issuein my statement about there being no data that supports the claim that gun stores have any negative impact on the area surrounding themwhether it be schools or other businesses You say divisiveness is a ploy of the NRA and I say it is the ploy of the liberal media and currentstate and federal governments Perhaps it is both but the fact is people are divided on the topic Maybe it is just human nature look atthe posts here and on the first article We cant even agree about what we are in fact arguing about Some claim it is just about location andspout anti gun rhetoric Then others like my self come to the defense of gun ownership and the store but are accused of straying off topic We cant even agree about what to argue about I happen to think you cant debate the merits of a gun store without discussing gunownership and guns in general We are all entitled to our opinions cont

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1026 am on Thursday January 10 2013

cont I happen to think a gun shop on the green would do nothing negative to the bucolic feeling of the green areaAnd a well run localbusiness is a plus My next statement is not directed at Denise personally I dont know her But what we need to start doing as parents isteaching are kids right and wrong We need to educate our kids that guns are not toys We need to educate them about alcohol and thatjust because it is available in package stores grocery stores and handi-stop stores and right next to the ice cream and candy that there areconsequences to its misuse And just because there are strip clubs and sex shops that there are obviously consequences to unprotectedsex and women are not objects And if you spend to much time and money in the liqueur candy or ice cream shop there can be healthproblems later in life What it comes down to is that we need to stop blaming others or other objects for our problems We need to takeresponsibility and teach our kids to be responsible

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Denise920 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Exactly Not a question of us versus them nor of haves versus have nots Not even a question of gun ownership All about zoning

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1029 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Sorry Denise I am a slow typist I addressed that above

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1034 am on Thursday January 10 2013

And I also wish to addhold those who do something wrong responsible for their actions

Flag as inappropriateStu Brainerd1039 am on Thursday January 10 2013

I personally think the location argument is misplaced Consider this would you rather have this business in a well lit and busy area in plainview or tucked away out of sight Do you not think that having it located more remotely actually increases the risk of someone intent onbreaking the law trying something Maybe someplace right next to an exitentrance ramp for a quick getaway

If it were to move I would be happier if it moved closer to the police station

Flag as inappropriateDenise1035 am on Thursday January 10 2013

So our statetown has no restriction on gun sales in proximity to schools Startling

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Denise1037 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Of course As I said Have your guns if you wish Be responsible But please do not sell them on our town green

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1058 am on Thursday January 10 2013

The way I see it Denise is the green belongs to everyone including those that welcome a gun store I dont personally drink a drop ofalcohol but would not deny you your right to some wine with dinner in a restaurant on the green as long as you were responsible beforegetting behind the wheel And the statistics show someone is far more likely to come out of one of the establishments on the green thatserves alcoholinebriated and drive drunk with a high probability of killing or injuring themselves or others Than someone is to go into a gunshop purchase a firearm and walk outside and commit a crime In other words there are gun owners and there are drunks I know moreresponsible gun owners than responsible drunks

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Denise1052 am on Thursday January 10 2013

I am not in fear of guns nor do I have an over the top paranoia of criminals It us the issue of selling them in such a family setting as the green Itbaffles the mind that a state that until a few months ago prohibited liquor sales on Sunday would allow the sale of guns in such close proximity toschools

Flag as inappropriateStu Brainerd1106 am on Thursday January 10 2013

Alcohol was banned from being sold in proximity to schools to address a specific problem The buying and drinking of alcohol on schoolgrounds by students If I recall it was enacted when the legal purchase age was 18 and it wasnt unusual to have 18 tear old seniors in HSbuying for their friends

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm1113 am on Thursday January 10 2013

How do we convince each other as to what is a family setting I grew up in a household with guns we were and are a hunting family Agun as a Christmas present was not uncommon So I dont look at a gun shop the same way you do A gun shop does not detract from myidea of a family setting quite the opposite I do agree with you on liquor sales because the irresponsible use of alcohol kills far more peoplethan the irresponsible use of firearms

Flag as inappropriateallen petri1059 pm on Friday March 15 2013

I feel instead of a sporting goods store there should be housing for recovering sex offenders in that location

Flag as inappropriateckb1115 am on Thursday January 10 2013

So following the theory how about we ban junk food within the school zone too There goes Dunkin Donuts the candy store the Ashleys and Benand Jerrys to name a fewand lets take out the bars as well because the kids may wander in there and be mistaken for an adult Parents need totake responsibility for their children and teach them right from wrong If a parent is going to let their child wander into a gun store well then Imgoing to question that parents ability to care for their child The NIMBY argument is getting old fast As the progressives like to saycant we all just

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get along

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bball fan1125 am on Thursday January 10 2013

As has been stated in other posts but I will reiterate Wal Mart sells guns And It is right next to the toy section Everyone seems so concernedabout the proximity to the green and schools I can almost guaranty that there are homes even closer to the school that have guns in them How dowe know anyone in one of those homes can just go crazy At least the people walking out the store will have gone through a recent backgroundcheck Until every gun is completely illegal and only criminals have them businesses have a right to sell them and it is up the public to decide ifthey will support the business I have a feeling this business is going to do just fine

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LittleB758 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

What none of you get is they went to zoning and the police and the ATF if it was an issue they would not have bin aproved and if you looked at thearticle these men had this all done before newtown ever hapoend

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Denise847 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

I read the article and never assumed that they circumvented the rules in any way That apparently our town has no such zoning restrictions isappalling

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm940 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Denise I think you will find that Branford is probably in step with most towns in Ct as far as zoningLike I stated in a previous post if youdont like a town regulation perhaps you need to get involved in local politics and try to change things I dont think there is anything appalling about the towns rules and regs And using words like appalling and shocking to describe a rule you dont like is laying it on alittle thick But I am outraged disgusted and saddened at your appalling lack of understanding that some people see the green in adifferent way than you Oh yeah I am shocked as well Get my point

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LittleB918 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

What none of you get is they went to zoning and the police and the ATF if it was an issue they would not have bin aproved and if you looked at thearticle these men had this all done before newtown ever happend so you may not like it but its done and move on if I bothers you so much

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LittleB918 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Then fix the the zonning laws

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LittleB938 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Heres my thing what are we doing to fix the mental health issue its not just guns people

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Stuart Brainerd950 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Hyperbole is unnecessary and inflammatory

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm959 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Keep that up Stu and nobody will want to be your thunder buddy

Flag as inappropriateStuart Brainerd1003 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Shaddup hick )

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Rockland Farm1014 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

Yessum I rekon I will Ise gots to get upp earely and milk tha goats An al themm big wardz mak my hed hurt

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Jane Doe1019 pm on Thursday January 10 2013

If location to school is an issue Then why are none of you protesting the gun store on the hill They are next to a preschool and the middle afterschool program If you are going to oppose something get your facts right Also the reason Branford doesnt have restrictions on guns store isbecause there was a gun store on the green in the 70s and 80s and I surely dont see any of the people who grew up here and have postedcomment going out and shooting people So how if you grew up in this town with a sporting(gun) store and it didnt influence you please tell mehow will it influence your children Unless of course you as a parent create that influence Start being parents and teach the children how to makereasonable decisions than making them for them

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LittleB943 pm on Friday January 11 2013

Jane doe you rock great point thank you

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LittleB1010 pm on Friday January 11 2013

You all should watch it httpswwwyoutubecomwatchv=I8D8b51EwrI

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donald n mei529 pm on Wednesday January 16 2013

Why do otherwise rational people become completely irrational when the subject is firearms The other evening at the meeting Frank Carrano calledto discuss the subject of firearmsfirearms legislation there was one individual who became positively unhinged when the subject of this store cameup If you dared disagree with him he covered his ears so he couldnt hear your comment So much for rational discussion and common sense

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Flag as inappropriateStu Brainerd818 pm on Wednesday January 16 2013

I cannot help but be amazed by the hypocrisy of some people regarding this subject Instead of having an open civilized discussion there isshouting and bullying Ridiculous proposals by elected officials that do nothing but further alienate law abiding citizens Enforce the laws wealready have stop intimidating those who are law abiding and prosecute those who arent

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maureen oconnor719 pm on Saturday January 26 2013

As a Branford resident and not too fond of guns I wish they were located somewhere else Not in the center ot town If there is no canoing fishinggear kyacks etc it is simply a gun shop

Flag as inappropriateRobert B909 pm on Saturday January 26 2013

Maureen well said If it catered to all types of outdoorsmen instead of a narrow focus on hunters and target shooters itd be a differentstory However they chose to carry a narrow stock and to cater to one specific group so yes It should go elsewhere To people sayingthose against it going into the old Arabellas location I ask you Would you want a porn shop going in anywhere within the center ofBranford Probably not So whore the hypocrites then

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Rockland Farm909 pm on Saturday January 26 2013

Everyone is entitled to their opinion There are very many people who welcome it to the center of town I for one am looking forward to it opening

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ckb643 am on Sunday January 27 2013

Robertthey followed the zoning laws and it is allowed by the town To label people using a lame example is a typical ploy of the liberals Sorryyou dont agree with this business much like I wouldnt agree with a porn shop however unlike you I would realize that they followed theprocedure and I would simply decide not to patronize them Thats not hypocrisy thats the difference -conservatives see something they dontlikeagree with but is legal they just ignore it Liberals feel the need to control everything to come to their point of view and they whine until they getwhat they want

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Anne823 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

AR Conservative sounds like a very angry person - he sounds very dangerous and should not own a gun

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Stu Brainerd843 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

So much for freedom of speech

While I dont agree with his delivery there are many who share his frustration

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And we are worried about a gun shop on Main Street when we have the likes of a gun owning AR CONSERVATIVE apparently walking the streets of Branford Its the owners not the guns we need to worry about

Flag as inappropriateckb932 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

Not so quick susan Do you know AR personally Do you know for a fact that heshe owns a gun How do you know this person is not atroll whos actually anti second amendment You dont have any facts to base your fear on You are simply trying to shove your agendaand are pigeon holing a whole lot of decent people Its quite intolerant and ignorant

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susan Barnes1047 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

Really ckb I dont know if he owns a gun Do you know he does not With his disgraceful outburst he is a worry if he walks the streets of Branfordas he seems unable to control his emotions unable to allow other views and unable to use suitable vocabulary on this site I am tolerant of thebusiness the owners and all they do even though I myself dislike the work of guns whether they are killing people or animals ( have no issue withtrap shooting) altho I respect a persons right to hunt The shop owners went thru the process and were approved I am tolerant of their right to runtheir business in peace So you be tolerant for both of us because I have no tolerance for ARCs abusive foul disgusting outburst But then ofcourse it is I who is ignorant

Flag as inappropriateRockland Farm705 am on Wednesday March 13 2013

Susan you stated you dislike the work of guns whether they are killing people or animals ( I assume you are a vegetarian ) How do you feelabout firearms when they are used to save the life of someone in a self defense situation

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Anonymous1122 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

I think he has out burst like that because of ignorant people like youThey did everything right leave them alone there is no need for this ridiculousuproar over ityou wanna help the town go pick up some trash an keep your opinions to yourself

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susan Barnes1129 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

You best work on your reading comprehension skills Anonymous 1122 Try rereading VERY slowly

I am tolerant of the business the owners and all they do even though I myself dislike the work of guns whether they are killing people or animals( have no issue with trap shooting) altho I respect a persons right to hunt The shop owners went thru the process and were approved I am tolerantof their right to run their business in peace

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ckb1150 am on Tuesday March 12 2013

Typical liberalwhy the need to be condescending and dismissive Of course you ignored the point that you are trying to make it seem all gunowners are not to be trusted That my dear is very intolerant As for AR the language is not what I would use or expect those I associate to usehowever heshe is expressing hisher first amendment rights just like you Those of us who support the Second amendment are standing up sopeople like you are free to express themselves Please dont forget that many died to give us those rights

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susan Barnes1205 pm on Tuesday March 12 2013

Liberal Condescending and dismissive Tolerance Ignorant all gun owners are not to be trusted To whom are you speaking

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AR Conservative107 pm on Tuesday March 12 2013

Wow what did I do People need to relax omg We are all entitled to our opinions And why I may dislike liberals and their nonsense bs and the factthat they cant understand facts presented in an argument they base their opinions strictly on emotion Ok I got a little irritated and used some foullanguage and screamed a bit Deal with it There are plenty of other gun owners and pro second amendment right citizens in Branford who share myfeelings and opinion they just dont have the balls to say it like it is like i do Who are any of you to judge me when you have never met me in personand for all you know perhaps I could help you in a crisis or emergency and be real nice Im just extremely frustrated that people cant understandthat we are Americans If you dont like the store then just walk by it with your little beat kids and dont go inside problem solved

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AR Conservative109 pm on Tuesday March 12 2013

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