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S.L.Lloyd GridPP CB 29 Oct 2002 Slide 1
Agenda
1. Introduction – Steve Lloyd2. Minutes of Previous Meeting (23 Oct 2001)3. Matters Arising4. Project Leader's Status Report – Tony
Doyle5. Discussion6. Tier-2 Centres –Steve Lloyd7. EU Framework VI – Tony Doyle8. GridPP 2004-2007 – Steve Lloyd9. Any Other Business10.Date of Next Meeting
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Matters Arising
• Project Management Board– Dave Britton appointed as Project Manager
(funded by GridPP)– Administrative Assistant (Barbara Scott)– CB Chair not funded by GridPP
• Experiments Board– Roger Barlow re-elected as Deputy Chair –
Takes over as Chair from Nick Brook next year• LTA to CERN
– Now possible through CERN LCG Money• PPARC Oversight Committee
– Met with us 3 times (Dec 01, May 02, Oct 02)– (Unhappy, Very Unhappy, Very Happy)
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Project Leader's Report
Project Leader's ReportTony Doyle
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Tier-2 Centres
• GridPP Currently funds:– Tier-1/A Hardware and Support Staff– Middleware Staff– Applications Staff– CERN Hardware and Staff
• GridPP proposed should be ~4 ‘Regional’ Tier-2s• GridPP does not fund Tier-2s• Potential Tier-2 hardware exists through
JIF/JREI/SRIF etc • Two recent surveys carried out:
– January 2002 Grants ‘Form G’– July 2002 GridPP Tier-2 Questionnaire
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Tier-2 Centres
• Many UK Institutes could be Tier-2s• All major UK Institutes want to be (or be part of)
Tier-2 centres.• Four obvious geographical groupings:• ScotGrid
– Edinburgh, Glasgow• Northern
– Lancaster, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield• Southern
– Birmingham, Bristol, Cambridge, Oxford, RAL-PPD
• London– Brunel, IC, QMUL, RHUL, UCL
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Tier-2 Centres
• ScotGrid– Well established as prototype Tier-2
• Northern– Have met once together, plan to meet again
soon– Very significant resources
• Southern– Bristol, Oxford, RAL-PPD have submitted EoI to
GridPP• London
– Informal discussions so far
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Tier-2 Centre Resources
Estimated resources at end of 2003 (from Institute returns)
Number of CPUs Amount of Disk (TB) Amount of Tape (TB)
London 1252 76 8
Northern 2015 113 33
Southern 392 29 20
ScotGrid 154 35 0
Number of CPUs Amount of Disk (TB)
BaBar 1108 29% 76 30%
CDF 453 12% 39 15%
D0 320 8% 8 3%
ATLAS 947 25% 72 28%
CMS 304 8% 9 4%
LHCb 543 14% 40 16%
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Tier-2 Planning
• Encourage these Institutes to formally get together
• Establish some sort of MoU between GridPP and the Institutes
• Request an additional 2 FTE of effort from PPARC to be matched from elsewhere to fund 1 FTE at 4 Regional Centres for last year of GridPP
• Try and minimise System Management effort required to run the centres (see Rollout Plan)
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EU Framework VI
EU Framework VITony Doyle
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The Future of GridPP
• GridPP is funded for 3 years from 1 Sept 2001 (1 Jan 2001 for EDG) i.e. ends by Oct 2004
• End effects till end of 2004• LHC starts > 2006• Need to have built a robust, production Grid
with sufficient capability and capacity by then
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The Future of GridPP
• GridPP is now well established with– PPARC, UK Core e-Science, Internationally
• Broadly based in UK HEP – CB - Group Leaders
• Has taken over much of CNAP's previous role– Running Central Facilities -> Proto Tier-1/A Centre
• Effective Management Structure
• Propose that GridPP continue beyond 2004• Need to decide priorities and prepare to bid against
new money.
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Future Priorities?
• Continue supporting Tier-1/A staff• Continue ramp up of Tier-1/A hardware• Support for Tier-2 staff
– Complimentary to University funding• Continued support for Applications development
– Through rolling grants?• Continued support for Middleware development
– Including Framework VI etc• Ramp up of Tier-2 hardware
– From University funding (SRIF etc)?• Continued support of CERN staff• Continued ramp up of CERN hardware
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Any Other Business
Any Other Business
