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- _ if _ J SC-084 77 -j ' SKYLAB I / 3 , _- ONBOARD VOICE TRANSCRIPTION / _ RECORDED ON THE COMMAND MODULE AND AIRLOC K MO DU LERECO RD ERS il i F PREPARED Y _! TEST DIV I SION PROGRA OPERATIONS OFFICE 'i / ! Natio n al Ae ron a u ti cs a n d S p a c e Ad m i n ist r at ion , , L YNDON B . JOHNSON _ SPACE CKN _ . ,_._\ Ho u a _ Texas F OC T OBER 1973

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AND AIRLOCKMODULERECORDERS
,_._\ Houa_ Texas
DAY252(AM) 21 1
252 00 17 51 PLT Okay, space fans, this is Jack again. We've
completed the run, M092 and M093 on A1. And the
work he put on M093 was 310 watt-minutes.
252 00 18 03 PLT And that's the end of the message for the biomed
folks.
252 00 27 23 PLT Okay, here's some words - this is Jack on chan-
nel A - Here's some words for the EREP officer,
the guys that are interested in handheld photos.
We just went over the Island of New Britain,
where there's Mount Langila volcano on t e west
end of New Britain. The weather over the objec-
tive was scattered clouds, and I could not dis-
tinguished any volcano or the three cones making
the volcano, probably due to clouds. I searched
for a dark lava flow and was unable to see any,
due to - most of the island is covered with
greenery, probably trees. And I did not see any
black lava flows like you see in Hawaii.
252 00 28 16 PLT However, on the west end of the island, I saw
light-colored ground, which was actually not a
very big area but could ve ywell have been
one of the ash flows that was spoken about in
the description that we received on board. There-
fore, that's just something that could be checked,
and the possible ash flow that I saw was on, as
I said, the west end of the island.
252 00 28 46 PLT It appeared to be flowing from the center north-
ward to the sea, altho gh it did not reach the
sea. That is our site n,_ber -What nl_ber is
that? 42.
252 00 28 8 PLT That information goes to EREP officers.
TIME SKIP
252 01 00 35 SPT Okay, this is the SPT debriefing the last orbit.
Information goes to ATM PIs and planners. Okay,
unfortunately I didn t do as well as I think I
should have on this last rev. We were doing
- this sort of modifiedlimb scan with the item 16
that you had recommended with the alterations
or modifications. But the target you gave me
 
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was 18 which is listed on the pad as being loca-
ted at 100 degrees Theta. Well, w can't see
that any longer, but I checked as best ! could
on H-alpha looking for brightness; couldn't
see any. I did make a check on the XUV MON.
252 01 01 16 SPT Stand by.
252 01 02 31 CDR - anyone else interested in the BMMD; it was
requested this morning that I take six zero mass
readings. In other words, just let the chair
rock back and forth. Let me give you the reading:
2.70179, 2.70163, 2.70187, 2.70180, 2.70167.
252 01 03 43 CDR Those are the six zero mass read ngs. CDR out.
And by th way, that goes to Drs. Bill Thornton,
Mike Whittle, and anyone else interested in BMMD
information.
252 01 03 52 CDR CDR, out.
252 01 06 32 SPT Okay, this is the SPT on channel A with informa-
tion for the ATM Pls and planners. Debriefing
that last rev which was completed right here
about 01:00 Zulu. I didn't do as well as I
should have on that thing. It looks like a
pretty goo d pl an f or sort of a modified l imb-scanning
program. And I do think it'll work out in one
orbit once we get on with it. I didn't realize
quite how long it was going to take, so I
took a little time at the beginning to get
a white light coronagraph picture and look
around a little bit. Now there are a couple of
things I didn't do as well as I should have. The
first thing was your target was active region 18.
- i00 at what ranges? That's active region 18.
And it's not visible on the disk. I did briefly
c eck the XUV MON, but I was having a little
trouble with my camera and l'm pointing - a d
the persistent image scope has gone on the blink
just this afternoon. We haven't got it fixed
yet. So I didn't get a good enough look at the
XUV. And so I rolled to what I thought was the
best roll angle.
252 01 07 53 SPT It wasn't exactly i00 degrees Theta. I went
about 15 degrees beyond that, and I now find
from s me of my XUV M0N pictures that probably
about a 120, ll5 degrees - ll5 to 120 would
 
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the way it turned out. It's still bright where
I used it, but not as bright as it would have
been had I stopped about i0 or 15 degrees shorter.
And I, of cours , did not get last 5-minute
exposure, 82 B WAVELENGTH, LONG, compl ete. Ran
out of time, which I might not have done had I
gotten hustling a little faster at the beginning
of the orbit because I think there is time to do
it all.
252 01 08 45 SPT And then finally for Jim Milligan, I got his
last exposure started at 11:30, but forgot to
turn his CAMERA POWER, OFF. So I didn't get
that until 07:45 time remaining. So I started
it again in SINGLE FR
A
got your long exposure done properly. I let it
-_ run clear to 45 secondstime remaining,although
very likely you will have some extinction at the
latter end of that. I find the XUV MON begins
to noticeably extinguis h alo g about i minute
time remaining, and the S05 DETECTOR - the 55
DETECTOR will frequently carry al ng until about
45 seconds to 55 seconds. So you might not have
much attenuation, but still some perhaps. I only
gave you a 7-minute expos
ur
scheduled, although I think the next time I
wouldn't expect to make those mistakes which I've
just desc
last
or
bit.
252 01 09 57 SPT Info goes then, to the ATM PIs and planne
r
the oPT.
TIME SKIP
252 02 13 45 SPT SPT on channel A with a message for Dr. Robe t
MacQueen, the ATM - ATM PI. Bob, one thing I had
meant
t
o
m
been able to see that ha there not been some
obse
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might have been in a hurry to get started on, say,
even a JOP 6, which didn't require looking at the
Sun - at the corona, or particularly some other
active region building block without any observing
time. I think it's very unlikely that would have
been no ticed.
252 02 14 21 SPT So it might be worth pointing out at some of the
planning meetings that this observing time, although
it does not always i_ediately pay off in terms of
concrete JOPs accomplished, it can nevertheless
the transient was. Fortunately, my whole pass was
essentially observing time. I wasn't in any big
hurry, and it turned out just perfect on the timing
again. But I thought l'd mention that comment to
you before I forgot it.
252 02 14 48 SPT End of essage from the SPT to Dr. Robert MaeQueen,
the ATM PI, S052.
252 02 15 57 CDR Okay, this is the CDR with some information for
GIL - some sound m asurements I made today. Let
me make a couple of comments first. Mainly, the
cabin heat exchanger fan muffler, we don't know what
that is. We think maybe that's a synonym for the
AM circ fan because as far as we know, in the STS, the
only thing that has that sort of a heat exchange
arranging [sic] is the TS circ fan. But let me -
I didn't - so then I didn't get reading l, which
is the AM - which is the cabin heat exchanger fan
muffler, but did get the rest. In l, I substituted
the rate gyros, because they're the loudest thi g
in there. Now let me read them to you. And I'll
read them in order. I'll just go like l, which in
this case is rate gyro, and then I'll just read
across, so here it goes. One: 72, 61, 59.5,
67, 60.5, 57.5, 50, 49.5, and 42.
252 02 16 55 CDR Okay, two, which happen to be AM duct fan and
muffler: 61, 52, 52, 58.5, 34, 50, 44.5, 44.5,
35.3. Three: 71, 65, 60 i, 68, 57, 52, 45, 43,
33. Four: 75.5, 56, 61, 72, 60, 59, 62, 64, 62.
Five: 71, 67, 62, 64.5, 67, 50, 45.5, 45.5, 35.
Six, with all four fans running - I turned them on
so you could get them all four running: 77, 73, 71, 4
61, 55, 48, 42, 40, 30. Number 7: 56.5, 45, 46,
48, 45 39, 29, 32, 24. Eight: 63.5, 59, 50.5,
 
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fans and I went ahead and shot all three of them,
the third being the CSM fan. Fan n
n
mber i: 66,
58, 56, 55, 54, 51, 45, 41, and 9. T o: 67, 60,
57, 58, 55, 50, hS, h5, 3h. Three, which is the
CSM fan: 67, 61, 56, 56, 52, 49, 43, hl, 28.
252 02 19 O1 CDR That goes to EGIL and also to anyone interested
in 487. I'll tell you some gentlemen that are:
Mr. Robert Nute and Mr. J. C. Smith. So if you
got any problems, give the CDR a call; I'll try
to iron them out. Remember that these were taken
in the environment with other equipments running.
And so sometimes you're not getting a pure sound
level on this except for pointing the ins trument
at it.
252 02 19 29 CDR Much - many times - For example, in the STS, I'm
sure the rate gyros tend to crowd in and -
the rate gyro sound tended to crowd in and some-
what
m
m
ent.
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TIME SKIP
252 03 06 04 PLT HelLo, space fans, this is Jack on channel A
debriefing the last ATM run. I ran the JOP 6
and I did the shopping list items. I ran the
whole run just like advertised. Powered it
doom for unattended and I gave you the frame
couI_s in real time, and so everything's
debriefed.
TIME SKIP
252 ii 52 17 CDR This is CDR debriefing the first ATM run of the
day, the 11:07; went well. I had about 15 minutes
left when I finished with the assigned JOP, so I
went over to shopping list item 16 and worked on
it. I gave 56 a 5-minute exposure, FILTER 3; 82B,
I gave it a 2-minute and 40-second EXPOSURE, SHORT,
 
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at I0 - at - at i0 minutes above the - i0 arc sec-
onds above the limb, 20 arc seconds above the limb,
and 30 arc seconds above the limb. So I got three
2 [minute] 40-second expo sures above the limb at
those three points, 02:40. Then we sneaked back
over to the middle and caught the sunset.
252 ii 53 12 CDR CDR out.
252 ii 53 20 CDR Also, I might mention I took a look at 52 during
the startup there. I saw nothing new. There's
streamers at both the western and eastern l imbs.
And there's abnormal that I can see in 52. XUV MON -
it seems like active region 19 is about the bright-
est, but none of them are s ignif icantl y brighter
than the other. You can see a small amount of UV
off of the eastern limb at about 2 o'clock and 5 -
at 4 o'clock and those have been there for a day
or so. That's about it.
252 ii 54 03 CDR CDR, out. _at goes to the ATM science room.
TIME SKIP
252 13 23 32 PLT Good morning space fans. This is Jack on channel A
debriefing the ATM run which began at 12:31. I ran
off a JOP 6 and one change I inadvertently made to
your request was that I rolled to minus 5400 instead
of minus 4800 and so we're going to be a little off
in roll. I noticed it after we'd gotten started
so I decided l' better leave it where it was to
complete the data t ke. The VTR was cranked up for
a few minutes, then I ran the JOP 2 Alfa. And l'm
currently doing the J0P 7. And we got off to a
little bit late start on that, so we're going to
get it from 3 minutes on in as opposed to 5 minutes
on in. Other than that, I reported two prominences.
tand by i, pl ease.
252 13 24 57 PLT I reported two prominences. One at 20 which
appeared to be about - standing width, 30 to 40 arc
seconds above the limb. And another small one
at about 060. I al - did my daily s etch of the
corona, and let me get it oriented right here. _
252 13 25 27 PLT Looks like we still have a couple of pretty nice
streamers over there. We've got two of them instead
 
of one now at the east-northeast side of the limb.
And we got another pretty well defined one at the
east or sout - east-southeast side. And so we ot
three pretty well defined streamers over there o n
the east side now; whereas, we only had one yester-
day with a lots of other slightly enhanced area
which has gone away now.
252 13 26 17 PLT So the slightly enhanced area has given way to three
pretty well defined distinct streamers on the east
side. On the west side, it app ars to be about the
same. Lots of - sort of enhanced area but not too
distinct. Maybe one distinct streamer t the
south-southwest or west-southwest, I should say.
And _ had a little more enhanced area yesterday
other there than we have now. It certainly is
somewhat enhanced but not to o wel l defined.
252 13 26 55 PLT One o:_her thing I noticed that I've never noticed
before. In watching the scope as we went into
_ sunset - actual sunset - I did notice the waves
across the H-alpha - the - due to the atmosphere
and sort of density waves, I guess you might call
them. I did notice the effect of seeing the Sun
through the atmos phere, much as it would appear,
looking from a telescope on the ground. It appeared
that the seeing wasn't very good, and I could see
it move from the bottom of the scope - or one side
of the scope across to the other.
252 13 27 41 PLT And - and then of course the Sun went out, but that
was something I hadn't seen before, but was very
apparent, seeing these parallel waves of the Earth's
atmosphere interrupt the go od seeing that we have
up here above the atmosphere.
252 13 28 O0 PLT And that concludes the debriefing for today and -
or fo]- this rev, and I'ii see you in a short time.
TIME SKIP
252 13 52 32 PLT This is Jack on channel A. The subject is Earth
observations for the EREP people. We - drifting
over the Sahara Desert today, I was just kind of
looking at the forms that the sand made and other
terrain down there. And basically the sand was
 
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59 PLT But I noticed that - what appeared to be - something
that appeared to be trueing up out of the sand or
that perhaps the sand was laid over - some a eas
of higher eval - elevation that looked like volcanic
formations. They may not have been, but that's
what they looked like from here. And then it looks
like the sand was laid over on top of them, and that
just the tops of the volcanic areas were sticking
out. And I know there isn't much water around that
area so I doubt that it was vegetation. And the
other comment about water, is tha it's - it's very
apparent that there is little or no water-type
erosional features in this desert area.
252 13 53 51 PLT However, as you get closer to the Mediterranean
coast, this morning - I was thinking of the northern
coast - I started to pick up some erosional features
and you could see drainage features pushing seaward.
As you - as you got closer - close to the coast,
you could see places where there had been, at some
time or other, strea
way into the terrain and where the water had washed
down from - higher area and - what appeared to be
d
r
time - at one time held some water and caused -
cau ed erosional features.
252 13 54 35 PLT Now b ck into the middle of the desert, the other
thing I noticed w s that through these - in these
outcrops, I guess would be a better word for the -
what appeared to b the volcanic features. In
these outcrops or - or tops of hills that were
sticking out of the s and, there were frequently
cuts. And you could see the sand strea
m
ing -
these cuts.
252 13 55 07 PLT It appeared to me that the wind in that area was
predominantly from the n rtheast, which was along
our track. And t e reason I say that is because
you could see through these cuts the - the streams
of sand streaming out to the southwest. And per-
haps they were just sand strea
m
appear - cause it to appear that way.
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13 55 _0 PLT But, at any rate, it appeared t at the wind had
caused the sand to blow through these cuts. And
 
lined up - probably with respect to the wind. In
this case, it appeared that perhaps the wind was
Just 90 degrees to my earlier observation; that
is, primarily from the northwest; becaus e the
linear features were - in the sand of the dunes -
were lined up north ast to southwest. So app -
per - perhaps there are two wind directions to
think about there.
252 13 56 28 PLT Those that caused the dunes and then periodically,
when the wind is from the northeast, why it would -
would stream sand through these cuts that I noticed.
Now i didn't notice any cuts going the other
direction. If I had, I may have noticed the
streaming in other directions as well. But the
ones that I noticed, just happened to be oriented
in that direction, so perhaps looking at the dunes
is a better way to determine the general direction
of the prevailing winds in that area.
252 13 56 58 PLT Another thing I noticed was that as you went down
from the higher outcrops, which were all dark and
looked volcanic, the sand on the periphery of
these was for several miles more of a grayish-whitish
color. Perhaps more of the color of the - a
gradation of the color between the outcrops a d
the sand which was in the lower - apparently lower
lying areas, which was m re of a reddish-yello wish
color. So the - the line of demarcation was very
evident also between the sand which was close to
the outcrops as opposed to the sand which was in
the - the lower areas.
252 13 57 42 PLT It makes you think that - that first the volcan c
area was - or volcanic activity was present and
then that later on some sort of reddish bands that
I noticed were laid down and then perhaps the -
the more whitish-grayish ones which I saw close to
those were laid in there. And that the whitish-
gray was blown out of the lower lying areas and -
but was pres rved nearer to the hills - the hills
protecting that area from - from the wind.
252 13 58 26 PLT Or perhaps some of the sand and d st particles
had somehow been blown down to the - to meet with
the red-yellow sand in the lower areas. So just
a few observations that we're able to make in
 
space, and the purpose is not so much to describe
to you the geology of the Sahara as to describe to
you what types of features we're able to see in
that kind of an area from our vantage point up
here.
252 13 59 05 PLT And that takes care of the Earth observation
message for now.
252 13 59 45 CDR Okay, this is the CDR. This is information for
biomed, particularly Mike Whittle and the folks
who are interested in normal BM_) information.
This morning I ate breakfast before I weighed
myself. I realized it during breakfast, so I
continued and ate every single thing that was on
the breakfast menu. And that only. Took one
drink of water. Everything else was as it normally
is, and I'ii read you the numbers that I got on
the BMMD, which means you ought to be able to
subtract off the weight of the meal and have the
accurate morning weighing. 2689, 6288, 6285. -_
Sorry, just forgot, but I think we're in something
of a comparable position to determine accurately
what I weighed this mo rning.
252 14 00 33 CDR CDR out. That goes to Mike Whittle and to anyone
else interested in BMMD readings, or morning
weight readings. I'ii read this information
down on the - the nightly report and mention that
I've already reached you on channel A. CDR out.
TIME SKIP
252 14 56 51 PLT Okay, space fans. This is Jack on channel A
debriefing the last ATM run, which began at 14:06.
I ran a JOP 6, building block 2 and during that
period of time, 50 - S056 hung up in PATROL,
SHORT; FILTER 5. Then we went on to JOP 2F, and
I ran all the JOP 2 Foxtrots at your coordinates.
On the first one, I gave S056 a SINGL FRAME,
135 SHORT, instead of ACTIVE i, LONG; and I did
the same thing on the third one. _
m
they requested ... a 55 on the rest. We're pre-
s ently goin on down through eff ective suns et in
MIRROR,LINESCAN. _-_
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252 14 57 43 PLT And so that rev's complete, and that wraps up the
debriefing. Thank you.
TIME SKIP
252 15 53 15 SPT Here comes the SPT. 187 on the PRD for the day,
187. 187 of them, 187.
252 15 57 16 SPT And PRD for the commander is 456, 456.
252 15 57 22 SPT That's the readings for the day.
TIME SKIP
252 16 32 04 CDR Okay, this is the CDR, and l'm debriefing the AT -
ATM run at 15:39. Went completely nomin l; every-
thing went well. Got finishedabout 12 minutes
early or so. I had a report that active region i0
was surging. Went on to the limb - over to the
limb. Went off the limb; rolled parallel to the
limb. Gave 82B three exposures - two 40-second
SHORT and one 40-second LONG. The 40-second LONG
was uncalled for, but I wanted to make sure that I
got what the ground wanted. They said two 40-second
exposures. I just wanted to verify - make sure
that I got the data. I gave an ACTIVE, i, LONG
with 56 and did MIRROR, LINE SCAN at GRATING, zero.
So, by th way, on H-alpha, it looked like I could
see something there for a while. It disappeared.
Now it may have been a prominence there forever
and I just didn't know it, but it looked like
somezhing was visible. And I laid the slit across
that s omething.
TIME SKIP
252 17 01 18 PLT Okays, space fans. This is Jack on channel A. This
information goes to the handheld photo people. I
took a pictureof the Gulf of Panama,and I noticed
that there was a lot of sedimentation around the -
particularly around the north and the east sides of
 
that Gulf. Most of it was associated with the rivers
that were flowing down into the Gulf. There was also
some around Rio Hato, which is on the west side of the
Gulf. Other than that, there wasn't a whole lot to
notice because the - the land was pretty much covered
by clouds. We took a photograph of the Gulf of
Panama, and therefore I believe we've covered
that requirem ent.
2 2 17 02 04 PLT That's the end of the message for the handheld
photo people.
TIME SKIP
252 18 39 44 CDR Okay, Houston, the readi gs -
2 2 18 39 55 CDR Okay, Houston, the reading on D-6 just as soon as
I turned the 192 to CHECK is a mere 57 percent -
57percent D-6.
252 18 40 08 CDR CDR out. _q%at's for EREP.
2 2 18 49 38 CDR Put it in RECORD, and everything is just dandy so
far. Check all readings and voice record green
ones. I'm going to check them and read them.
Okay, we're going to start with switch A first.
2 - it's 92 percent, which, as you well know, is
out of limits. But we'll live through it, I guess.
We always seem to. 87 percent on 3, which is
within limits. 84 percent - correction - 72 percent
on 4, which is within limits. 5 is 66 percent,
which is acceptable. 6 is about zero, and that's
acceptable. And that's the end of that one.
2 flunked.
252 18 50 32 CDR Okay, let's try B-2. B-2 is 62 percent, and that's
acceptabl e. B-3 is 76 percent; that's acceptable.
B-4, 71 percent; that's acceptable. B-5, 74 per-
cent ; that is acceptable. B-6 is acceptable
anywhere, and it's 49 percent. B-7, 31 percent,
acceptable. B-8, i percent, acceptable. 9,
59 percent, and that's acceptable.
252 18 51 19 CDR
C
attenuator in. N , no, it says attenuator - yes,
 
it's out of limits. 5, 84 percent; that's within
l mits. C-6 is 47 percent, in limits. C-7 is
i limits at 49 percent. So it's C-4 that's out
252 18 52 04 CDR Wait a minute and let's go to D. A-2 and C-4.
D-2, o e of our favorite numbers, 86 percent, and
that's acceptable. D-3, 85 percent, acceptable.
D-4, 72 percent, acceptable. D-5, 12 percent,
acceptable. Make that 14 percent. D-6, 57 per-
cent and acceptable. And 7, no sweat. So let's
check a few of these that you like so much,
D-7, 31; D-8, about i; B-7, about 50; B-6, 57 -
58; and is C-7 greater than 80, which it sure
wasn't, as you know. Okay, we've done that.
Everything is just perfect. MODE, READY; door
coming open on 190. Let me check the HEATER light
off. And these two are PUNCH [sic], TO TEST, and
they are acceptable, certainly.
252 18 52 22 CDR I would recommend on Jerry's cards - one, that you
check the window heaters a lot earlier. There's
no reason to wait until the last minute. And
verify and voice record pre-op pad. That's what
l'm going to do right now. TAPE RECORDER, ON;
READS, on; 92, ON; READY, out ; and MODE, CHECK.
252 18 53 40 CDR Forget it. I cannot CHECK yet. I'ii have to -
come back to it. 91, ON; READ on; COOLER, ON;
DOOR, OPEN. 90, ON; STANDBY ..., ON; READY out ;
STANDBY; and DOOR, OPEN. It's wide open. 93 R,
STANDBY and READY out. 93 S, OFF; and READY out.
94 , OFF; and READY out. And ... 93 A, OFF; and
READY out. And 94, ON, with READY on, and that's
okay. We lacked one thing, and that's to get the
MODE, READY. Okay, 90's ON; 92 - here we are.
When that READY light goes out, I will put the
MODE in CHECK, and we'll be ready to go.
252 18 54 40 CDR We're in good shape for this EREP run. Did you
load the new times in, Jack?
PLT Yes, I sure did.
CDR Okay, l'm sure you don't mind me mentioning it. I
hope you mention them to me. Good run for
34 _[nutes .
CDR Where are we coming over? That's the pass, huh?
PLT Tip of Baja.
UL)_ Good.
PLT ...
252 18 55 26 CDR We're going to do something over.
PLT ...
CDR Okay, looks like a run worth saving. I don't know
why that door isn't open on 192 right now. It's
got me worried. Okay, it is. MO E to C ECK.
That's -You've got it right. Everything's okay.
Standing by for A, STANDBY at 19:00. If you prefer
to do that ... on again, they found the weather
went - went away.
252 18 56 21 CDR Down-link box is to s
w
I'm going to write "red dot" on this thing.
*** what color that other one is, but this is red.
252 18 59 06 PLT How you hear me, Al?
CDR I hear you so well, it's incredible.
PLT Too well, hey? Okay.
CDR No, I'd say just about right.
PLT Okay, then it 's not loud enough.
252 18 59 46 PLT You down there, 0.?
CDR Should be.
SPT Several of them.
SPT Thanks for the check.
PLT S_ys I got to check the SPT; so I did.
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and 40 seconds to sleep.
252 19 00 22 SPT My chart shows we Just crossed the tip of BaJa
up he
PLT That's where we're going to go, yes. St. Louie
and Detroit.
SPT That's
252 1
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03 40 CDR MA}LK. R, OFF; A, ON. EREP, START at 4.
Monitors A-l, B-l, and C-I are my favorite ones.
Stand by for EREP, START at 4, gentlemen. 8, 9, -
252 19 04 00 CDR MARK. EREP has started. 94 to MODE, MANUAL at 18.
B is starting to take a NADIR ALIGN, one of our
favorite skills.
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19 04 18 CDR MARK. MODE, MANUAL. Uh-oh' It's way low_ way
low, folks. There it is.
PLT What's low? Oh. There you got her.
CDR C-1 max; C-1 is ... 84. What's the thing thi
n
k
F there.
PLT Yes.
CDR 05:20 is the next big one. W over the ocean?
PLT Yes, we're still "ova zee" ocean.
CDR Okay.
252 19 05 05 PLT We'r going to hit the coast about lO:00.
252 19 05 20 CDR 05:20, AUTO CAL.
PLT There it goes. It's AUTO CALing.
CDR We like to AUTO CAL for you. 06:50 is going to
be decision time. Looking for A-2. I got to
record A-2, C-h, and C-I.
252 19 05 48 CDR Just before the READY out at 06:50, I guess. Maybe
they want it recorded now. I'Ii record it now.
No, ywouldn'tbe us fuln w.
252 19 06 21 CDR Well, it might be. I know why they want it. They
want to know what's going on.
PLT Coastal stratus clouds. Okay.
252 19 06 46 CDR 06:50 coming up. It's decision time. Ligh out.
I'd say that 87 is a good number. Let's leave it.
Record A-I and B-I. 48 and 42.
252 19 07 09 CDR 93 A to STANDBY.
CDR READY, on on 191 at 8.
252 19 07 38 CDR READY on 191 at 8.
252 19 08 03 CDR Okay, 8. A - then A, ON. A, ON. Monitor A-l,
B-I, and C-I. l'm monitoring them. 191,
REFERENCE 6. There, record C-I max. Wait a morn -
C-I sort of c_ning down. Going on with all this
thing?
CDR Man, we'
seen.
CDR C-1 max so far has been 89 percent.
PLT Low - it's got to be as low as something or other.
CDR 50, 59. 10:54 is decision time on A. Doing a
couple; I guess this is a sort of a repeatability
test.
252 19 09 26 PLT Okay, I'm looking for some coastal stratus clouds
for over 9 minutes now. I got some coming up over
there.
4
PLT There's some good ones. Track there for a while.
Staying in the coastal stratus crow - clouds.
PLT Back. Stratus cloud, nice flat bank. You see a
few little blue channels in it ; very faintly blue
Okay, let's get off of that one.
252 19 lO ll CC - lab, we'r marking you for 16 minutes stateside.
CDR Okay.
CC I--
PLT Okay. Here's some more coastal stratus.
CDR 82 and 93 percent. B-h was 98; C-1 max was 87.
252 19 lO _5 PLT I'm on my second group of coast - coastal clouds;
picked a point.
9
ll 07 CDE R ADY is out ; READY is on again and will go out
at 111:32, and we're going to record A-l; A-2, B-l,
and C-I - C-4.
PLT Okay, now we're coming down through 15, which is
where we get the good data.
252 19 ll 3
C-4_ 98. 92A to STANDBY; MODE to 1. 12:36, we
got to go 192 MODE t READY.
PLT I got you som coa tal stratus; I'll try to find
s ome mo re.
2 1 9 8
252 19 12 18 PLT Coast - Okay, here's sc_e more coastal stratus
for you.
PLT ... - -
252 19 12 36 CDR Okay, 192 just went MODE, READY. Go AUTO at 49.
252 19 12 49 CDR MODE, AUTO. 13, down-link box to 3. Stand by.
13:00, down-link box to 3.
252 19 13 00 CDR MARK. Down-link box went to 3. READY light out
at 13:14. Ye , it did. Down-linkbox, 13:24, to 5.
252 19 13 23 PLT Okay, space fans, we Just crossed the tip of Baja.
We're coming up over Mexico, over the Big Bend
country right at the bend of the Rio Grande, and
then we're coming up over - Just north of
Fort Worth, Dall as, up over St. Lou s, Detro it,
and up through Canada.
252 19 13 50 CDR Okay, switch position 7 on the down-link box. We __
have two MAL lights in the 190, and that's the 5
and 6, but we're not worried about them.
PLT A uniform site, plus or minus 5. CROSS-TRACK
t 14:30. Okay, hang on to it for a minute and
20 s eco nds .
252 19 14 12 CDR MARK. Down-link box at 12 - to position 9 now.
PLT Some uniform site with clouds, I guess is what
they're looking for. Get other side here.
CDR 14:32, 3, 4, 5, 6 - MO E, CHECK on 192. 190 to
MODE, STANDBY. FRAMES, 7-
252 19 14 44 PLT Okay, I'm going to take that hole in the clouds
right there.
CDR Interva ometer, 10. At 15 minutes, 193 A, ON.
PLT By golly, there's an airfield down there; I don't - -
252 19 15 00 CDR MARK. 193 A, ON. 15:20, MODE, SINGLE on 190.
PLT I'm going to pick a tuaiformbrown site to track
at the moment, and then later on, I'll pick a
uniform green site. We're near some city. I
 
PLT I'm going through gimbal 30, and I want somebody
to tell me where that city is.
252 19 15 27 PLT MARK. Gimbal up 30. Somebody te l me what that
city is? know exactly where we're tracki g;
brown u
iform site.
CDR 15:40 -
252 19 15 40 CDR MARK. Okay, record A-2 and B-_. A-3, 92. B-h,
99 or 98; it's hard to tell. 15:46, 192 MODE,
READY.
252 19 16 04 PLT Got a hole in the clouds; that's what we'r s ooting
through. Okay, I tracked them, and I move up here
a little bit and get a green site. Found one.
252 19 16 24 PLT I have a green site. Okay, I'm tracking a green
site now, Houston. A brown one and a green one.
We're going through 20 - minus 20, that is. Okay,
there, we're off it. Okay, 17:20 up to 45,
s omething's wro ng.
252 19 16 47 CDR MAPS[. MODE, READY at 192. SINGLE on 190.
PLT Yes_ the weather ain't much good down there, Hank.
CC No good?
CC It's no good?
PLT Not much good, no. It's like - Just like you said.
Weather all across the track; few holes h re and
there.
252 19 17 20 CDR Another SINGLE, 17:20 . .. go CHECK.
PLT Don't see a thunderstorm. Look around here a
little bit.
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252 19 17 32 CDR That's it; another SINGLE. MODE, AUTO at 18:23,
okay.
CC Stratus?
PLT Got a lot of high cirrus. Might be one under
there somewhere, but you can't see it hunching up
through. But we'll keep looking. We got another
couple of minutes to look, says here.
252 19 18 24 CDR Okay, MODE, AUTO.
252 19 18 38 CDR FILM ADVANCE MALFUNCTION lights 5 and 6 remain on.
All the others are out.
CC Hey, our best guess is you may have been looking
at Abil ene .
CDR Okay, to STANDBY at 19.
252 19 19 00 CDR STAN BY. S to STANDBY and R to STANDBY, and
everything's ready. 19:30, READYs ought to -
should be out.
PLT Okay, Lsnsing is clear, and I got the site.
CDR 190....
252 19 19 16 PLT So I aid to heck with the thunderstorm, if you
don't mind. We're just through tracking site 535;
no question about it.
252 19 19 26 CDR 190, 19:30; READY, out.
PLT I ot the pipper on the biggest field in the area.
CDR 19:50 is 192; MODE, READY.
PLT We got a - still got 15 gimbals to go, until we
get to zero.
CDR 92, MODE, READY.
PLT - - It's all the way in.
CDR 190 to STANDBY - -
CDR - - and FRAME, 6. Valometer, 20.
PLT Had to hunt around a little, but Y found it. I
found my old hometown of Grand Rapids first and
ran down the highway.
CDR 20:53 is 190, MODE, AUTO.
252 19 20 l0 PLT Say "hello" to all the folks at the University
of - Michigan State University. Lansing's the
c_pitol of my home state. Michigan State University
is the second big - second-best school in the
Big 10.
the University of Michigan. Okay, let me see if
I can find you a thunderst rm now, Hank.
CDR Going to go to - -
PLT ...
a
but there's all highs here. Never seen any
thl
m
gets better.
252 19 20 53 CDR MODE, AUTO on 190; 191 is REF 2. Reco d A-2 and
C-i. I think I can do that.
PLT Thunderstorms are all dissipated. They're either
... or cirrus.
- CDR C-his98.
PLT But I'll take Lansing any day, Hank.
252 19 21 i0 CDR 21:30 is 190, SHUTTER SPEED, MEDIUM.
PLT Okay, Z-LV is what tim ? 34. We got all kinds of
time.
252 19 21 30 CDR SHUTTER SPEED gone to MEDIUM. 21:52, MODE to
STANDBY.
PLT How'd you like a little data in one of these
lakes up here? Going to give you some data in one
of these lakes. I don't even know what one it is.
Taking data in the lake right now, Hank. I'm at
minus 26.
--o
CDR 22:hO.
PLT Okay, we took s_ne data on Lake Ontario there, Hank.
252 19 22 01 CDR 22:40, READY, out.
PLT Let me swing up here and see if I can find anything
else to take some data on. Copying, Hank?
CC Say again, Jack.
252 19 22 16 CC Copy.
252 19 22 19 PLT I'm going to take some data on a uniform green area
in - Whoo ' I ran out of gimbals. I can't do
that. Find something else here.
252 19 22 40 CDR 90 to STANDBY.
PLT Aw heck.' All I see is clouds. So I'ii take you
some data on so
F
22O3
252 19 23 00 PLT I'm at gimbal angle 45 and coming down right now
on some cirrus clouds, Hank. That's just for the -
Have somebody mark the time. That was 23 minutes.
CC Okay.
PLT And so they'll know about where the area is and
where it ap ears on the data. I guess we're going
tc miss hunting season this year, Hank. And this
kind of stuff that about best makes up for it.
Just hunting around for extra VTS sites.
CC Roger.
PLT Better - you better shoot me some of those doves
down at Vero this year. Okay?
252 19 23 48 CC *** left there.
PLT Say "hello" to our old buddy, Don Trifton [?].
Okay?
CC ...
PLT Okay. I took you s me - I still got time. I'm
going to get you some ata on clear water. Okay,
there was -
252 19 24 12 PLT MARK. Went gimbal 35; taking data on clear water.
CDR The Atlantic Ocean.
CDR Think ; we 're not sure.
252 19 24 26 CDR S, ON; R, ON; and A, OFF, at 25.
PLT All this time the DAC is off. There's no
documentation as you requested. But I Just want
you guys to know what's going on this S191, so
that you'll be able to interpret the data. We're
still on blue water.
Hank?
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252 19 25 00 CDR S, ON; R, ON; A, OFF.
CC They had a few of them. Nebraska-UCLA was the
big one.
PLT Yes, I heard. Man, we're sure waiting a long time
to go to Z-LV.
252 19 25 20 PLT Okay, l'm done taking data on blue water. What
else, Hank, would you like here?
CC Still about 1 minute f
r
up on Mad
/
they'
r
r
on ETC?
read me, 0.?
CDR He departed for Madrid. Making a fast trip to
Madrid to meet us there.
252 19 26 59 PLT Okay, for the record, this is the VTS operator,
S191. We're taking data now on some stratus over
the Atlantic. It's a very rough and wavy pattern.
It's solid stratus. However, it looks like - I
don't know what to say. It looks a lot - lots of
linear features. This looks like sand dunes
Almos . Sand dunes in the clouds. You still
running that thing, Al?
hot.
PLT I'ii tell you what. I'm going to take some more
data on the blue water in the Atlantic now.
 
CDR Okay.
252 19 27 36 PLT MARK. We're taking data on blue water in the
Atlantic.
CDR Does it affect you if we're in the midst of an
AUTO CAL on 1917
2
2
7 55 PLT 0k_, we're done taking data on blue water.
CDR It's on?
CDR Okay.
2
5
2
19
2
8 06 PLT Okay, there's the buildup. I'm going to take some
data on that buildup ri ht there. Okay, we're
-- taking data on a cumulus cloud, Houston.
252 19 28 18 PLT MARK. Taking data on a cumulus cloud over the
Atlantic. I doubt that it's a thunderstorm, but
I can't tell. But it's a - a good buildup. Okay,
we're taking data along there. Now we'll take
some data right along the side of that. Very -
thin haze right next to it.
252 19 28 36 PLT MARK. We're taking data right next t the cumulus
buil dup. Very thin, cirrusy-lo oking cloud -
252 19 28 47 PLT MARK. That's it. Okay, we're off of that. See
what else we can hunt for here.
SPT Some information for the EREP officers - 71 frames
on ETC, 71.
252 1 29 16 PLT 0k_y -
252 19 29 18 PLT MARK. 191. We're taking data on some cirrus
clouds over the Atlantic. They have kind of a
waffle-weave pattern to them. But they re - they
Just got a light, blueish tint to them; so they're -
 
f ormations. I think the bluishness is somewhat
affected by the Sun angle; makes a little h_
m
_ock
CDR Does_ It doe look that way, doesn't it?
PL That takes care of that. Don't we have a no-EREP
schedule?
252 19 30 33 CDR Yes, but it's only got one guy in the ATM, and I
think it's you.
PLT Good. that's - -
PLT Okay, now we're going to take some - -
CDR You got the ATM. The rest of us are goofing off.
PL Now we're going to take so e - Aw, you - That's
the way it usually is.
CDR Yes.
CDR Nothing.
252 19 30 50 PLT - - S191; now we're taking data over the tlantic
Just about in th water. Blue water down there;
nothing different. Not enough to give any data,
but at least you can calibrate your instrument a
little bit, up to gimbal i0. Said we were over
Abilene back then; I'm going to look that up.
CC *** Houst n. We didn't see an AUTO CAL on the 191.
Did you get one of those?
252 19 31 12 CDR Su
r
e did. Give you another one if you want it.
PLT I had the data pushbutton dep
r
C
TIME SKIP
252 21 ii 42 PLT Okay, space fans, this is Jack on channe A,
debriefing the last ATM run, which began at 20:18.
I ran all through J0P 6, and then I got a call
from the ground to work on - work over active
region 24. So went there and did a JOP 2A,
step 4, detail ed teleprinter .. ., and o m tted
82A, B, and 54; but I did do a 56. I did a
PATROL, SHORT; PATROL, NORMAL - -
SPT S illn getti g yt ng...
252 21 12 16 PLT - - and did parts of ACTIVE, i, LONG and did the
SINGLE FRAME, i, 3, 5, SHORT. And I got the
GRATING, AUTO SCAN; the MIRROR, AUTO RASTERS;
and a couple - and that's about it. Then I went
down to step 7, omitted 82A and 54, - -
SPT No, that's what this ne was for.
252 21 12 45 PLT - - and hen I did the step 7, I got 82B - a
i0-- and a 40-second SHORT, you requested, and -
55 got i, 2, 3, 5, 6 - corrections, i, 2, 3, 4.
5, 6 as a 2436 GRATING. And had a little time
left over; so shot another GRATING, AUTO SCAN,
DETECTORS i and 2. Found another bright spot,
and then I MIRROR, LINE SCANned for a while through
that area, stepping between - up and down of
bout 6 and 13, something like that.
252 21 13 25 PLT So we did a little extra coverage on active
region 24 and let the MIRROR, LINE SCAN run out
through effective Sun - through actual s unset o n
line 9. And that completes the debriefing for
this run. Thank you.
252 21 16 01 CDR Okay, this is the CDR with information on the
:rate gyro six-pack temp, which was a little bit
 
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early, but I had some time and came up here and
did it. The - I'ii read the number of the request,
and then I'ii read you the temp. Now i is a
little bit different, because i, you can't get
between 5 and 6. Their connector ends right side
of plate toward CSM, because the other gyros,
the wide gyros, get in the way. So I got not
exactly in the middle; I moved ove more towards -
underneath the -
252 21 17 26 CDR Okay, CDR back again with this information. It's
over - over towards - It's between X-5 and X-6,
but it's closer -
252 21 17 37 CDR By about an inch to X-6, and it - You just can't
et in there exactly between them. But. let me
ead you the numbers; I don't think it's going
to make any difference. By the way, I also took
two places .
252 21 17 59 CDR I took one place on the side towards the CSM, as --
requested, and got 98.2. I went around to the
ther side of the plate, and I could get between
them there. And I took - The temperatures was
95.3. So you an use those two. Okay, 2, 93.0;
3, 101.2; 4, 78.2; 5, 76.2; 6, 76.6; 7, which is
X-5, 97.5; 8, which is X-6, 95.8; 9, which is Y-5,
98.8; i0, which is Y-6, 92.0; ii, which is Z-5,
97.8; 12, which is Z-6, 95.9; 13, ni - 97.3; 14,
89.2; 15, 97.3; and 16, 95._. If you have any
information that you want on that, let me know.
T is mention - message goes to EGIL and concerns
the test that was Just performed, called the rate
gyro slx-pack temp.
TIME SKIP
252 22 22 14 CDR Okay, this goes to EREP, and l'm giving them some
additional numbers, l'm going to go from the top
of the checklist in order. So at time 05:20: A-2,
93; B-4, 98; C-I, 87. Now you realize that the next
one down, I'm supposed to record A- and B-I. A-I
and B-I continue to move around, even after the
decision time and everything else. Now I didn't
 
here it is. One minute they're 48, 42; the next
minute they're 47, 43; and they just move all over
the place. Okay, down at 08:10, C-I max was 89.
Down at same place, after 08:10, when the READY was
out: A-l, 54; A-2, 93; B-l, 45; and C-4, 98.
15:140: A-2 was 92, and C-4 was 98. 20:53: A-2,
3; C-4, 98.
252 22 23 20 CDR That ought to do it; that goes to EREP. CDR out
TIME SKIP
252 23 04 41 SPT Okay, this is the SPT on channel A. I want to talk
about the last ATM pass to the ATM Pls and planners.
Main thing I wanted to discuss is this four-limb
coalignment. And here are the numbers that go in
the appropriate blocks on page i-i of th - whatever
checklist this is. ATM Log, it looks like. Okay,
on day 252, time 22:30, the upper limb: plus i011,
1011, I011. Lower limb: minus 895, minus 899. And
the left limb: minus 930,minus 93 , minus 930.
And the right limb: plus 972, plus 975. The mirror
position is still on line 9 and row 32, 0932. The
FSS readouts are plus 595, plus 653. That's up in
and out, respectively. And right, i and out: plus
413, plus 435. Now t looks like there's been
essentially no drift at all. All the instruments
are staying precisel y where they have b en. However,
I do want to talk a little bit abo t the S055
left-limb reading, which I have given it as minus
930, the point at which you MPC the barber-
pole-to-gray change. Now I've ad to fudge Just a
little bit on that.
252 23 06 25 SPT It may show up at minus 930; it may be actually in
a minus 929, in which case, if it were really a
minus 929, according to the alignment procedures,
I should have skipped to row 33. I actually did
that., but when you get over to the right limb, it's
clearly too far to the right. And if you make the
same check at the right limb, which isn't asked for
in the procedur s, - if you do make that check
anyway, you step right back to line 32, row 32.
252 23 06 51 SPT Now it is closer to being correct, at both limbs,
on row 32 than it is at row 33. So I left it on
row 32, even though you do have to occasionally
 
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fudge a little bit on the left limb. So it seems
that the 55 is not precisely centered on the limb
in any of these line positions. Be nice if we had
a little, fin micrometer to squeeze it over to the
left a lit - right a little bit. But since we
don't, we have to put up with this very slight
misalignment of the center. So 82B and H-alpha i
seem to retain exactly the same alignment they've
always had. 80-55 has not changed any, but it has -
the center of their pencil beam is skewed site -
slightly, a couple of arc seconds from the 82B and
H-alpha 1 center.
252 23 07 51 SPT Now as far as how much of the S055 ZERO-ORDER
DETECT - DETECTOR mus t be illuminated before it
triggers from barber pole to gray, when we came up,
I was under the impression that it was a very small
fraction, like only 5 or l0 percent. From the looks
of these diameters, it is more like - oh, 20 or
30 percent of the ZERO-ORDER DETECTOR that has to
be illuminated, before it flips from barber pole to
gray. If you have any other co ments, or if you
disagree with this, please give me a call about it.
But I believe that row 32 is still clearly the best.
Line 9 is, I believe, still, without doubt, the best
of the - of both of the choices there.
252 23 08 42 SPT So that's the next four- imb coalignme t. And since
it requires no readjustment, I think that it is -
good deal of confidence that it is essentially -
remains well coaligned for the entire mission here.
252 23 08 54 SPT End of message from the SPT to the ATM PIs and
planners.
DAY253(AM) 2211
253 01 58 27 PLT ... and the fact that it was dyna
m
ic. I could
see it move by just wa ching it. And it's the
f_rst moving thing l've really seen on the Sun.
So decided to do a little JOP 8 on it and started
on that with a building block 1O and pointed XUV
s
m
d gave them a couple of frames in one pointing
and a couple of fra
m
ran some GRATING AUTO SC N and a MIRROR AUTO
RASTER, and so forth. And then got c
o
nversation
center, which we did. And af
t
of the shopping list item 19 on the - on the
prominence.
253 Ol 59 01 PLT Appeared to me to be visibly in H-alpha, 30 to 40
arc seconds about the limb. And s
o
higher, depending on the rays that were emanating
from it. And appeared to me to be about oh, i00 arc
seconds lo ng, tangentially. And it appeared to
be associated with active region 9. Must have
that nifty fila
some action. But anyway, we pr
o
some of XUV exposures down. We thought it wouldn't
be a bad thing to do anyway because what we were
look ing at was relatively bright, s o that's what
we did. We got pointings at zero, plus 4, plus 8,
plus 20, WAVELENGTH, SHORT and LONG. And we got
a couple of GRATING AUTO SCANS on a mirror of 32
and then 34 and then 36, LEFT
/
And S056 got SINGLE FRAME, LONG; FILTERS 3, 4,
and 5. The first o e was i0 minutes an the
second two were 8 minutes each. So w pretty much
used up the shopping list item 19 on the prominence
there, and that ran us out of time. So the Big 0.
will be on the panel next rev, and he'll be talking
to you.
253 02 00 50 PLT Thank you very much.
253 02 14 40 CDR Okay, Jerr, Bill, Ed, Vance, Don, Bill, I'm going
to continue now with the next part of this little
introduction to what we've got going on up here,
maybe to aid you. Once again, it's not a pro Job.
It's Just an effort to show you what we got. And
without any more, let me j st start over here.
What I'm doing is facing t e plus-Z, right now.
j And I'm floatingover here to the side, sho_ing
 
we're not using it any more. This one right here's
the one that didn't fit. The one that does fit
is sitting over there in the corner y the BMMD.
And it - it's for your use in case y
'
all start
bringing up some repair items to fix up T 27 or
73.
253 02 14 54 CDR Underneath it you can see a - a plenum bag.
That's where we keep our only plenum bag. And
the things we throw in there are just dry trash
and about the only thing that's d
r
take out the fo
around there. Ever once in a while when you
pull something out of the dome lock er_ there's
s ome packing. But mo stly everything's wet trash
and goes down the trash airlock. But that's been
hanging there now for about a month, and it's
just gradua ly filled up, as you can ee. And I
ass
um
o
se
o
253 02 15 35
m
o
r
e
r
r
the food locke
there, t
plenty of bags, too. There's the spider right up
there on the wall ne
x
t to those lights. I don't
know what we do with that. I assume we stow it.
You'll notic it s got a lot of our - ou
r
extension
co
r
ds on t ere, but we've managed to use the others.
hat's the big
on
c
o
rds.
253 02 15 58 CDR Okay, let me back up now. It turns out that the
H20 purification equipment over there on the wall
is pretty easy to use. The way we've been doing
it, they'll give us a pad, tell us to go ch ck
water tank such and such, such and such. We do
that and that's pretty straightforward and quick
to do. And then once we've done it, we send that
info rmation down to the ground, and then about
3 days later they come up and say put X amount
f iodi
n
tank something or other. It works real good. So
I don't think you'll have any problems with that.
I hope that those iodine - where we throw the
 
l'm looking at it from the back.
253 02 16 57 CDR Also, we don't have it stowed like the good guys
want us to stow it. The reason is it takes too
long to unstow and to stow. So we just hung it
over there, and it doesn't bother a
n
By the way, that's the TV cables that are swing-
ing over there. It's got all that - and co
m
m
cables - It's got all the straps on it it took
to get strapped in. We just left them there and
left them in position so when we flew it next
time, if we did, we would - We'd have them ready.
253 02 17 28 CDR We're getting ready to fly suited runs, so we re
going to take these off the first f this week.
And then we'll have it stashed in a good place.
I think you're going to enjoy flyi g it. You'll
notice on the sides there that we've got some -
some Mosite, and it's all taped there. It's a
f- rather crude-lookingoperation,but it seemedto
do the Job. I'm hoping they make you something
a lot be ter. We'll have to take that off too
to fly the suits, but we'll leave the Mosite
underneath the - the medical gear down there.
I'll show you where, when we're downstairs. But,
anyhow, it's just stashed there. Doesn't get in
anybody's way. Looks kind of funny, but we'll get
it all cleaned up for you, enough so that we think
it's in the best configuration for when you get
here.
253 02 18 15 CDR Okay, now you're looking at the 509. Pretty
much the same way. We dock it and tie it down
each time. But as you can tell, we do not tie
the straps up particularly neat. You'll see the
padding on the - the seat there. It's left for
_u. We'll just leave all that Just like that.
We may tidy up the straps a bit, but that's about
it. Pretty easy to get ou . Once you've done it
one time, it's really simple to do. It's funny.
(_e of the things that we found out up here was
the first time you did something, it took you over
a 100 percent longer to do it ag - to do it than
you'd planned, because you just really want to
checkeverything. Somehowyou don'tbelieve-
 
Once you've done it once, then you've ki d of
been convinced that maybe it is just like you
trained on and you can do it much faster.
253 02 19 12 CDR Let me show you some others here. I'm moving
around, so between times it will be a little
screwed up. Okay, now there's the helmet bag for
the EV-3 man; nothing new there. Right behind
there is all the gear from the parasols, the
sails, and all that special equipment we brought
up here. It's right in that bag and in that bag
right there. There is the MSC sail. We're look-
ing above the - the film vault. I very seldom
get into that area. Once when we had to cut
some panels, they said go get the - the wire cut -
I mean the sheet-metal cutters. They told us
where, and they were in there. So that is just
kind of tied up there out of the way. Doesn't
bother you. Doesn't loo k particularly nice, but
all that sort of equipment's in there. My guess
is that you will not have to use it at all. Now
where we're going to put the EPC rate gyro equip-
ment, I don't know. I don't think it'll be in
there. That's too out in the open. That'll
probably be put somewhere in the MDA in a - one
of the empty film lockers, but you'll find out
where it is. S063 is open because Owen's over
there getting ready for tomorrow's pass, so I
won't comment further about that.
253 02 20 28 CDR Let me show you what we've done right here.
There's the film vault. To the left we've got
a card for the Mark II exerciser. To the right,
the Mark I exercise card. I know it's not in
focus, l've stuck over here the M rk II and the
Mark III exercisers on a couple of bungees where
we can get at them. Right down here is the
Mark I. I think you ought to put this in your
simulator. Maybe you've already done it. But
you ought to get the Mark I in there, et this
other gear, and stash it around like it is. It'll
help you learn where it is and the use it.
253 02 20 58 CDR Right over here swinging on the duct is the PCU
 
foot plates - Let me show you something else
we've been doing. By the way, let me show you -
Watch 0. - 0., handle the - the camera u here.
He's getting rea y to put in the ET . If those
guys cot
crazy, because it l
but you're not. You can cont
r
ever let it get out. It doesn't go anywhere you
don't want. It moves fast, and when you want to
look at something on the other side, you just
give it a spin. And the heavy items stay in
position real well like that. So you can set it
so
m
ewhe
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DR You take a light item like a checklist and se
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m
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else, I believe. You just set the
m
o
something. YOu think you wouldn't float it, but
it's fun to float it. It's kind of one of the
benefits of zero g. So any time you get a chance,
you sort of float it near you. But with the
light items, you get sort of like an instrument
scan in an airplane, Ed, where you - coming back
to it. You work and then come back. Every
l0 seconds you look at it. If it starts to mov ,
you put it back. It's kind of fun to - to do it.
So you'll find yourself saying, "I shouldn't do
this, but I'm going to."
253 02 22 38
C
DR And then maybe i0 percent of the time now it
flo ts off and it takes you awhile to find it,
but eve
rig t up there on that screen. That's the best
thing in the place going. Now what you'll see up
the
r
away for 2 or 3 days. Normally we keep that
spic-and-span.I usuallyvacuum it at least every
 
vacuumed and put it back, it's about a lO-minute
job. I vacuum that thing about every other day
and we got ready to do some TV o Jack doing it
yesterday, and it wasn't dirty. So we're letting
things collect on it for a couple days so when
e vacu
ms, he's got something.
253 02 23 25 CDR And there's a couple of straps up there and a top
o one of the food cans and some dirt's gathering
ut we're trying to get - trying to get something
so we can show them on a 487. Last time I did
487 - You do them three times - I had to wait a
couple days too. While I'm up here, I might show
you the water tanks. I would suggest that you
get very familia
Note - note the hoses running up there through
the hatch. Those hoses are coiled up. One of
them runs down and goes out the airlock to put
a vacuum on the can. The other comes over here
to this fitting in the floor. My sug - I would
highly recommend that you devote three training
times to that of a couple hours each of trying to
understand what the hoses do. Don't - Can the
checklist. It doesn't let you learn it. Use
the checklist when you do it in flight, but try
to figure out how the hoses go and how all these
diff
e
use that a lot. You use it for dumping the
command module water. You use it for con - not
th
e
of hose connections.
253 02 24 28 CDR Another thing might be a good idea, Bill, is to
get them to give you a picture diagram to take
up here, in the flight data file, of all these
fittings and all the hoses by length and by
fittings on each end and the names, because they
all have about the s me name, and it takes you
forever to learn which is which. Up there on -
... Up there on the ceiling, too, are the two
straps that we used for firemen poles. Now we
connected those a cou le of days, but we didn't
like them for several reasons. One, they didn't
provide ny advantage over the metal one, and
the disadvantage they provided, you never could
torque off them. You could go up and down on
them, but if you wmnted to turn around or catch
yourself because you were headed toward the - the
 
hole, you couldn' do it. Now we kept the metal
one in here for about a week, and then we decided
to t ke it out and we hadn't had it in here since,
because it's a lot more fun to dive up and down
and float. It's just more fun to operate. You
don't need it and it's - it's - we haven't missed
it. It's - it's been a lot more fun.
253 02 25 29 CDR Let's get back now to where we were. Okay,
you'll see the bottles. We - The way we work
tlhese bottles, by the way, is as soon as we
finish the run on 509 or T20, if we have a bottle
clhange in midrun, we stick it in there changed.
But the bottle we take out, then we go take up
and charge it. Then when we bring it back and
clharge the other one, we stash it there and then
tlhenext morning we take them both back and - and
top them off. We don't even wait for the ground
to tell us to. hat way they're always topped
off and we get ahead of the game. And there's
reason to. I re lly- re llyworks
good. Now I'm doing a bad thing here. I wasn't
paying attention and let my triangle shoes get
off, and I'm floating away. Sometimes you float
up i the workshop and it takes you a minute to
get back, so I'm coming back now.
253 02 26 21
C
DR Okay, by the way, there's where we pu - Let me
Show you where we put the - the EV plate. And
you don't need to change aro
u
might mention we found it extremely dif ficul t to
get in the suit with our feet in there, because
we just couldn't bend over to get in the suit -
itself. Well, we were finally able to do it by
working awfully hard. We found it much simpler
to - get in the suit with your feet in those -
and then before you try to put the top part in,
to take your feet out - and then Just hold on
with your - let the other guy put his feet in
near the top and he kind of holds on to you and
then you can bend over much easier and get in
the suit. We found no trouble at all then.
253 02 27 02 CDR Also getting out is the same way, so don't try to
 
found another thing, it was hard to zip up the
suit, mainly because when you lean p here you
don't have gravity hel ing you lean - and so -
you don't lean as far. And we kept saying, "What's
wrong? We can't zip these up." And finally the
last time we did EVA, we just grunted and bent,
you know, put a lot more muscle in leaning over.
It was no trouble. So it's strictly the fact
that we didn't have the gravity and weren't pull-
ing hard enough. We were pulling Earth strength
and - and not up here with a lack of gravity.
253 02 27 39 CDR Let me show you the other two. This one's over
here by the bottle. Owen took a picture because
he's working underneath, you see. And this one's
right in front of the hatch. You can see we keep
it open. We don't move it around. You ought to
just leave those there. Let t em put the hatch
in, put tho se little blue things there; there's
as good as anywhere else. And you can float
around. By the way, in your suits you don't have
any trouble getting from here to the hatch or
anywhere else. E erything's great as far as -
getting around in here in zero g.
253 02 28 08 CDR Okay, let's go back over here. Right now we're
venting down - we were venting down; Owen just
stopped. The lid was open, we were just venting
down the AMS - now let - let me talk a few minutes
about that thing. It turn out that you got this
thing in and ut a lot. Along with - with the -
the other component there, the - I forget what
you all it. That's articulated mirror system
and that's the - the adapter. I forget what you
call it, let me see what the name of it is. It's
called the - S019 optics, that's right ; the optics
part of S019, and then of course the film canisters
over in the film vault. But - you get those in
and out an awful lot. If I were you, l'd do
extra training on that putting in and out. It's
funny, we trained a lot across the board to try
to even everything out. But some things you do
every single day, like that. You ought to be
able to do that as good as ATM. You ought to
have five training sessions on putting this in and
out alone, befo e you come up here, because you
just do it a lot. And then somethinglike -
configuring for EVA - quit doing so much of it,
 
the minutes by being able to do these sorts of
things fast.
253 02
ur
the little clip. The ones that we don't, we put
right over in that bag. Now let me show you
something. Right here is the - one headset
Flugged into channel A. The one l'm wearing is
plugged into the other side. We keep that plugged
in with two cables and we use it during 509 and
T20. When we're doing EREP, we move that up-
stairs. This one stays here all the time, and
it's great to use when you're doing S019; it's
also great to use when you're down. And we stick
it throu h the hole through the floor and then
Jack uses it for T002, and that's why he's been
able to do ic fast and better down there.
253 02 30 07 CDR Now the tricky part is, it's plugged into A, don't
-- forgetto tur the switchthere - the intercompush
to talk; of cou
r
e
r
There's the
we keep there.
We got the bag up there - three bags with ou r
old - and used - I_ - wa
t
e
r
o
but that's whe
There's the broken TV, forgive me for moving
fast - the
we go. You get in the business of stowing and
unstowing if you're not careful.
253 02 31 02 CDR Okay, now on the top of the food locker. Pretty
interesting place; th t's whe
r
chow is. And - you'll be using it a lot. For
example, right there's a lot of extra small cans.
Right next to it are the extra big cans with the
food in there. Behind it - big sack - by the way,
that big sa k is the extra food we got together
for our 3 days all stashed in there. So for our
3-dayextension- I'ii just go up and get that
 
And behind it is a couple more items of - extr_
food. Down there_ we've tied down some of the
extra clothes we've brought up. We got a lot of
clothes up here, Jerr, and you can probably bring
some extra socks and have plenty of clothes for
any extension you can come up with. Here's where
we've put the - fecal bundle. It's kind of
stashed over there in the corner. We've found out
that we - use one can of - food, one of these big
things of food, you know, in 6 days and we fill
up one of tho e fecal things in 6 days. It turns
out that - Owen was the first guy to notice that,
since he carries out the fecals and puts them in
there. I always - and Jack usually - Jack and I
put down the food; sometimes Owen gives us a hand.
But anyhow, he noticed that - and Jack got mad
because he said that - he figured he was just a
middle man for t e whole thing and he was going to
throw some of the stuff in the - in the fecal bags
and forget it - cans and all (chuckle); even throw
the menu and - the pills in - but he didn't do it.
But maybe, who knows -
253 02 32 36 CDR Okay, let me show you inside some of these babies
so you know what's going on. Up here at the top
one, I'ii open it and back off. Some will float
off and I'ii have to put them back in. Okay, now
there's the - the leftover stuff that SL-2 had.
Now, you're se - Pete's listed them on the top in
some places, side some places. But we'll bring
back a complete inventory of what's in there, so
that gives you a feel for the sort of food he's
got in there.
253 02 33 08 CDR Okay, that's going to float out. This locker
contains SL-2's flight data file - SOPs - the -
I took off the leg guards around the dome lockers
and - I'ii Just kind of show you. That's just
Jammed up with old gear. For example, we got
ready to go EVA; we couldn't find the adap er that
put the powerpack on the camera. We looked all over
the place; Jack says I'ii bet they threw it away
with the - powerpack they used. I says, "Wait a
minute. I think I saw a powerpack in here." I
went in there and looked and I'ii be darned if - it --_
wasn't there. So we tend to not throw much away,
but stash it somewhere and report it to the ground;
you might be able to use it.
 
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253 02 33 49 CDR _d the big white bag is all their flight data file.
Behind, there's a bunch of other - things that they
used during the flight. Now we'll probably have
a locker the same way. And it'll probably be the
locker next to it. Here's our overage. The ones
that are gray are labeled with our overage. The
ones that a
labeled. So we'll - before we leave, we'll -
label it all up and put it the e. Now we got a lot
of overage out of here, in our lo kers, that we
probably aren't going to eat, but it's a lot
easier to go find this stuff, put it in your lock-
ers, than it is to keep coming back all the time
trying to find one item of peaches or something
like that. So we tend to - to not - not go back
snd forth so much. But when we're out, we get
_t and then - put it - put - put it down there on
cur little old - use our bottom shelf. I'm showi
n
g
this bag because it'll probably be here when you
get here. That's the f_]m t at e - dredged out
of the - plenum, and for - that Pete had. It's
s_ uti0 - EREPs- film lo dsa d e e-
cne tape - and - an ETC and an SO19. I don't
know whether they'll find out it's good or bad,
but if they do, that'll be a good thing. You'll
notice we - Let me back up a little. You'll
notice w_'ve got some bungees on there. Bring all
you can; you've got a lot in the co
m
r
e.
Anothe
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r
t
i
m
e
t
hem
down, they got little locks up there. Let me s e if
I can - snap this t
o
I h
right at the strap area.
253 02 36 01 CDR Now these - these straps don't work so grand when
you tighten them up. You tighten them up and try
to lift this up and have it catch this friction
device, it doesn't work. So what you do is tighten
it up good and reach up here behind your shoulder
with your finger and push that down. Like that.
You get these bolts very tight and if you do that,
that's one step in getting a good weighing. The
next step is, besides rigidizing it - old hat - is
 
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when you punch the button down here on the seat, be
sure that you punch it like you squeeze off a
trigger. Maybe marines know that; I don't know
about you, Bill, Air Force. Ed Gibson, he probably
do esn't do anything like that, but marines k now
how to squeeze them off. But if you - if you wait
until everything's quiet and then squeeze it off
easy, believe me, you get a lot better readings.
If you don't, you just waste a lot of time up here
trying to get three of them close enough to report.
Usually know, we can hit it off the three times,
but it took a long time to - to really get it down,
particularly lock ing the thing. That's about it
up here - looking ar und now, I - I don't see any-
thing - He wants to show you inside the film vault;
nothing too much new there. Let me - I'm going to
unplug this and move down to the lower area and
work down there. So hold on.
253 02 3 26 CDR Okay, here we are downstairs. Let's see how it
works down here. Let's start over here right to .-.
the left side. You'll see things out of position
here. That's probably the way we have them most
o_ the time. OKay, t_ere's the - _ransuranzc
rays - nobody knows what that means, but - there
they are. Now right there's our clothesbag. We
just put a TSB there - not TSB, but a disposal
bag there. We put our dry clothes in there that
we think we can use for rags. Turns out rags are
the - a real winner up here, particularly when it
comes time to clean up. Trying to clean up with
these little - I'm talking about cleaning the
inside of the head or something like that with -
with - with those little paper things is rea - is
a waste of time. We use the paper things for
food and wiping off urine and things like that -
off ourselves. But we use rags for almost every-
thing else. When that fills up, we Just close it
up and shoot it down the trash airlock and put
another one up there. Anything t at's wet, we put
in a bag right here. Now this bag right here is
the urine bag And we always keep one there. You
can tell because it's got those things ... But
essentially, we never put more than two urine bags
in it, and then we try to put a few more other items
in there like wet towels and the like. But they're
always here. Any wet item goes in there, from the
head, and any dry item then goes over there. So
this means with - with three pieces of urine, you
 
end up putting two in there and some things and
shooting it down the trash airlock in the morning.
Ycu can put one in there and it stays until the
next morning, at which you'd then put another one
in and then two. S_netimes you don t do this,
because - you have three little ones, and you
can shoot them down but mostly you try to do it
with two. We haven't had any trash-airlock prob-
lems, but I'll tell you this. This whole scheme
that somebody came up with that says you're going to
... it and freeze it: forget it. There is too
much. It's - it's out of sight. If we ever lost
that trash air ock, i would be one f the worst
things that could happen. The trash even smells in
2 or 3 days up he e. You You have - you have no -
you'd have no way to cope with it. It - it's
incredible. And - you got to be careful.
253 02 40 42 CDR When we give an inventory of these bags at the end,
if there's any doubt, bring extra bags because -
that's - a small price to pay compared to what could
happen, if - anything went on with - went on and
CDR O ay, now - let me turn down this comm. That's
been a headache up here that there's no end, to
t_{ to get these comm boxes right. And the way -
the way we finally ended up doing it, here - I
le_ this thing float; that's why it's looking
f_ny - is we - Down here, we put the one in the
wardroom on. And that's it. And now when -
Invariabl y somebody gets on the bike an can't
hear. He turns it up, he forgets to turn it off,
and problems occur, but - but we live through it.
So - it's Just a problem. You got to keep all
these down but one. And maybe you can keep them
up in your - bunk a little bit; but other than that,
it's bad news. Okay now, let me show you. Ther 's
a fan we keep down here all the time; it's the
only fan we use, and we use it blo ing on us when
we're biking. I use it a lot; Jac , some; Owen,
a little bit. We - You'
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keeping you
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ouble.
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"Send us what you want us to do." And the obvious
way is to have everybody using the same t o - cuffs
on t e legs. If you all can p ll that off, it
would be perfect. Then you could put those two in
there and leave them in there. Don't put them back
in the drawer. We have it where Owen and I use the
same right, different left, Jack uses different
right and left, so we change them. But we still
use the same ones every time. And then the only
thing we report is the circumference o f the calves .
The rest is old hat.
253 02 43 42 CDR Let's see w at else. We got our checklist around;
same thing. There's the limits of the ergometer
Just pasted right there. Right there is where we
put the Mosite. Y u come against any Mosite, stick
it under there. It always comes handy. Up there's
a friendly - head light, and believe me, you ought
to use that more. I didn't use it for a while, and
I started using it the other day when I went down
to the plenum; it's great. By the way t at plenum
is a nice change. You can float all over the place,
you can get those boxes out, you can carry things.
It's one of th more pleasant - surprises compared
to doing it in one g where it's a big pain.
253 02 44 01 CDR Here's the pad that we stick - Sorry for the light -
There's the pad that we stick on our heads when
we're biking. We put it there, on our heads, put
t up against that rail right here, that trough, and
then bike away. Let me back up, show you how our
bike's configured. I'm sure yours is the same way.
It works great. Had no trouble. The bike holding
on the handles - I never use the head rest hardly.
ack used it almo t completely. 0wen uses it
pretty much. Vacuum cleaner - look, it's floating
in the corner over there. We keep it stashed in the
corner. Then you don't have to unhook it; you Just
grab it out of there and bring it. Shower's down
there.
DR Okay, let me see whatever else then. You'll notice
there's one bag of - During the day, I'm the only
one that works the trash airlock. I think you'd -
t'd be wise if you pick somebody. Because there's
a feel to the handles and things. And you really
need - you don't even have time to train three guys
to feel this thing and finally dec de that they
 
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one of the tricks of it. I'll - I'll show you on
this thing in a minute. I won't dump anything.
Yes, let e dump somethi g. I can't dump something
because there's nobody down there to push down the
lid. Well, let me show you what - let me see if I
can find a better place because it might be - just
might be useful.
CDR O ay. Now, let me talk to you a few minutes about
this thing, because it's a problem. This - this
particualr strut right here is the thing that's
bent, and you can't tell it because it's Just bent
very slightly. What happens is - By the way,
notice - notice the strap here. I'll tell you
what happens in the night, you float by this thing
with your toesy and put it about right here. Now
what you're doing is venting it - venting the cabin
air, and it run the pressure down and they'll have
to build it up for the night. Now - -
SPT Hey, A1.
CDR _ay. Thank you, 0. That's the end. We'll have
to go some more tomorrow night.
CDR %_is is the CDR. All that TV info mation goes to
Jerry Carr, Bill Pogue, Ed Gibson, Vance Brand,
Don Lind, and Bill and those.
253 02 47 50 CDR CDR out.
TIME SKIP
2
53 l0 37 30 CDR Okay, this is - this is Captain Bean up in Sky-
l_. This morning, we're - going to take some
EREP pictures of Africa. We Just covered the
coast. We just crossed the coast - of Africa.
We got clouds that are following the outline,
as you can see. What we're attempting to do
today is take some pictures of an area just south
of the Sahara Desert. This is part of a drought
a_'ea, in the Sahel, which is a six-nation area
a_ut 500 miles in width - north to south width -
 
the Red Sea. They've ha a 4- or 5-year drought
in this area. What we hope to do in Skylah is to
take some pictures of this area and, through study
of these pictures, determine additional water
sources, a point where vegetation is not so affec-
ted by the drought. We know we aren't going to
be able to control the weather from here, with
this equipment and we can't prevent the lack of
rain. Perhaps we can forecast in ad - advance
what sorts of vegetation is - will be affected the
s ee it aff ected even before so meone on the ground.
Now we're coming up to the drought area. You
might be able to see on your ground - that -
that the - down below - on your TV, that the
ground below us is not nice and green, like it
should be, but brown, reddish, sandy colored.
253 I0 39 51 CDR The drought has been in effect for - or has been -
with these people over here - these 6 million
people - for 4 or 5 years. It's affected them
greatly. Relief supplies are sent there frequently,
but it's hard to supply 6 - food for 6 million
people - for a very long time.
253 l0 40 38 CDR We just passed over the Ivory Coast.
CDR We're now in the Niger Region, approaching the
Sahara Des ert.
253 i0 42 21 CDR Pull back of this setter. I'll pull back on this
setter. I'Ii get a better picture .... out.
253 I0 43 32 CDR Let me know whe you're ready, Jack.
CDR Let me cover it up, so it won't be - okay, go
ahead. Am I kind of hiding the window ow?
cD_ OKay. You ready?
CDR Okay, we've just been looking - here's our orbital
map, here's Africa. A
I'll start again, when you're ready.
 
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253 i0 h4 20 CDR Okay, here's the continent of Af ica. This has
been our orbital path. The Sahel is an area
that's about 500 miles i width, extending south
from the Sahara. Here's the Sahara, from the
Atlantic to the Red Sea. This area right here is
under an extreme d
lack of
r
several millions of people live. Now from Skylab,
we're not going to make it
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253 i0 46 32 CDR Okay, I think we - Okay, you go ahead and get the
recording. We Just put some information on - the
VTR for the African pass ... pass.
TIME SKIP
253 ll 08 29 PLT Okay, space fans. This is Jack on channel A de-
briefing the first ATM r
u
n of the d y, which began
at 10:22. We got the co-op Nu z updates and we
did the synoptic J0P 6. We did - J0P 2 Delta
on the three active regions you specify. Active
region 9 is - almost out of sight. You asked
for - some work on S056, active region 19, and
instead of the ACTIVE l, LONG, we gave you INGLE
frames from SHORT, FILTERS l, 3, and 5. We got
a
L1 the rest of the data. We have two promi-
nences - roughly - 070 and 1
2
r
one are listed on the solar activity pad. The
activity this morning is somewhat quieter than
it was last night. The PMEC is running around
the - 300 to 400 most of the time and - so things
have quieted down a little bit. The corona
doesn't appear to have any tran ients in it. And
the last couple of minutes - before actual sun-
set, we ran the GRATING to MIRROR on D-5 and -
MIRROR, LINE SCAN ...
253 ii 0 13 PLT And that concludes the debrief on this rev, and
we'll pick you up shortly. Thank you.
TIME SKIP
253 12 22 58 SPT 190 for the SPT. 190 is the PRD for the SPT.
253 12 25 24 SPT 467 is the commander's PRD, 467. That completes
the readings or the day of the radiation dosim-
eters. SPT out.
253 12 43 24 _T _Kay, space fans. This is Jack on channel A de-
briefing the last ATM run. I Just finished it up
for AI. He had to go an - do something else.
And - he got the - J0P 6, building block - i. And
then I gave y u a little TV, took you on a tour of
the Sun. And I did the atmospheric sen - extinction
at 2 minutes. During the time we were doing the
TV I noticed a little bright spot in active re-
gion 24 and - went back to it and I did a little
mirror line sc nning on it, but - i