relationship : in the light of j krishnamurti teachings

What is relationship?

SUNDAY DIALOGUE15th March 2015KFI CUTTACK CENTRE

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What is relationship? KFI Cuttack Centre / Sunday Dialogue

What do you mean when you are asked

what is relationship?


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Does our relationship depends on trust, reciprocity, time, intensity and faith?


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Are we truly related to each other or the images of each other are related?

If so then are we aware of it?


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Lets read what K has to say regarding Images & Relationship


Relationship is between two images

“Why is that we human beings have not been able to solve this problem of relationship though we have lived on this earth for millions of years? Is it because each one has his own particular image put together by thought, and that our relationship is based on two images, the image that the man creates about her and the image the woman creates about him? So in this relationship we are as two images living together. That is a fact. If you observe yourself very closely, if one may point out, you have created an image about her and she has created a picture, a verbal structure, about you. So relationship is between these two images. These images have been put together by thought. And thought is not love.”

J. Krishnamurti, The Network of Thought, p 87

Does relationship acts as a mirror in understanding oneself?


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K has often said Relationship is a mirror.So lets read further regarding this in his words.

Relationship Is a Mirror“Relationship is the mirror in which we can see

ourselves as we are. All life is a movement in relationship. There is no living thing on earth which is not related to something or other. Even the hermit, a man who goes off to a lonely spot, is related to the past, is related to those who are around him.

There is no escape from relationship. In that relationship which is the mirror in which we can see ourselves, we can discover what we are, our reactions, our prejudices, our fears, depression, anxieties, loneliness, sorrow, pain, grief. We can also discover whether we love or there is no such thing as love. So we will examine the question of relationship because that is the basis of love.”

J. Krishnamurti, Mind Without Measure p 79KFI Cuttack Centre / Sunday Dialogue


“Even the hermit, a man who goes off to a lonely spot, is related to the past, is related to those who are around him. There is no escape from relationship.”

J. Krishnamurti

Does Self-knowledge comes into being when we are aware of ourselves in relationship…..


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Lets read what K has to say . . .


Self-knowledge comes into being when we are aware of ourselves in relationship…..

“Self-knowledge is not according to any formula. You may go to a psychologist or a psychoanalyst to find out about yourself, but that is not self-knowledge.

Self-knowledge comes into being when we are aware of ourselves in relationship, which shows what we are from moment to moment.

Relationship is a mirror in which to see ourselves as we actually are. But most of us are incapable of looking at ourselves as we are in relationship, because we immediately begin to condemn or justify what we see. We judge, we evaluate, we compare, we deny or accept, but we never observe actually what is, and for most people this seems to be the most difficult thing to do; yet this alone is the beginning of self-knowledge.”

J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life


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“If one is able to see oneself as one is in this extraordinary mirror of relationship, which does not distort, if one can just look into this mirror with full attention and see actually what is, be aware of it without condemnation, without judgment, without evaluation - and one does this when there is earnest interest - then one will find that the mind is capable of freeing itself from all conditioning; and it is only then that the mind is free to discover that which lies beyond the field of thought.”

J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

Does right action comes in understanding relationship ?


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Lets read what K has to say


Right action comes in understand in relationship Relationship is our problem, and without

understanding relationship, merely to be active is to produce further confusion, further misery. Action is relationship: to be is to be related. Do what you will withdraw -to the mountains, sit in a forest - you cannot live in isolation. You can live only in relationship, and as long as relationship is not understood, there can be no right action.

Right action comes in understanding relationship, which reveals the process of oneself. Self-knowledge is the beginning of wisdom; it is a field of affection, warmth, and love, therefore a field rich with flowers.

Collected Works, Vol. V, Action


So now lets further read together in the hard copy

What is relationship? in the words of Krishnaji.

TALKS WITH AMERICAN STUDENTS Chapter 3

17th September, 1968



“What is relationship? What is the relationship between the stars and yourself - not astrology and all that - just the stars. What is the relationship between you and the cloud in the evening when you see it lit up. What is the relationship between you and your wife, your neighbour. Are you related to your wife? Have you a relationship with your wife, or husband? You have a relationship between that cloud and yourself because you have seen clouds before, you have the memory and the word. And when you say, it is my wife, my husband, what is that relationship?”

You have an image about your wife and she has an image about you. The husband has built, through many years, an image about her with its pleasure, sex, comfort, annoyance, greed, nagging and all that. And she has an image about you. There is relationship, between the two images, the one you have about her and the other one she has about you. The relationship is between those two images. (No? You are very silent!) And that is what you call relationship. That relationship breeds anxiety, fear, jealousy, the fear of loneliness, the fear of not having a companion. So we establish that relationship legally, it becomes highly respectable. But the relationship is between two images. And when you look at a cloud, at a tree, at the lovely flower, you look at it with the image you have about that flower, cloud or tree.

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Now, have we actually a relationship with another? To be related means to be in contact. You may be sexually, physically in contact but that does not constitute a relationship We are talking of a relationship in which there is no image between you and another. I do not know if you have ever tried it. Do. Have no image about your wife, your husband, your neighbour, or about another; just look, just see, directly, without the image, the symbol, the memory of yesterday, of what she said to you, what you said to her, how she annoyed you and all the rest of it. Stripped of these things there is a possibility of right relationship. Because then everything in that relationship is new; relationship is no longer of the dead past.

Talks with American Students, Chapter 3, 17th September, 1968

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