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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org MEMORANDUM TO: NFPA Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property FROM: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects DATE: January 20, 2015 SUBJ: NFPA 72 Proposed TIA Log No. 1163 CC Preliminary Ballot Results __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The CC Preliminary Ballot results show this TIA HAS NOT achieved the ¾ majority vote needed on both Question 1 (Correlation Issues) and Question 2 (Emergency Nature). 20 Eligible to Vote 2 Not Returned (Norton, Valois) Correlation Issues: Emergency Nature: 0 Abstentions 0 Abstentions 14 Agree (w/comment: Boswell) 7 Agree (w/comment: Black, Humm, Smith) 4 Disagree (Berezowski, Humm, Nielson, Van Keuren) 11 Disagree (Aiken, Berezowski, Boswell, Fannin, Fraser, Grill, Mundy, Parrish, Reiswig, Schifiliti, Van Keuren) There are two criteria necessary to pass ballot [(1) simple majority (2) affirmative ¾ vote]. Both questions must pass ballot in order to recommend that the Standards Council issues this TIA. (1) In all cases, an affirmative vote of at least a simple majority of the total membership eligible to vote is required. [20 eligible ÷ 2 =10 + 1 = (11)] (2) The number of affirmative votes needed to satisfy the ¾ requirement is 14. (20 eligible to vote - 2 not returned - 0 abstentions = 18 × 0.75 = 13.5 = 14) The Final Technical Committee and Correlating Committee ballot results will be published at the conclusion of the Public Comment Circulation period. An appeal relating to a proposed Tentative Interim Amendment shall be filed no later than 5 days after the notice of the Final TIA ballot results are published in accordance with 1.6.2 (c) and 4.2.6. Attachment

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National Fire Protection Association 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471 Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

MEMORANDUM TO: NFPA Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and Property

FROM: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

DATE: January 20, 2015

SUBJ: NFPA 72 Proposed TIA Log No. 1163 CC Preliminary Ballot Results __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The CC Preliminary Ballot results show this TIA HAS NOT achieved the ¾ majority vote needed on both Question 1 (Correlation Issues) and Question 2 (Emergency Nature). 20 Eligible to Vote 2 Not Returned (Norton, Valois) Correlation Issues: Emergency Nature: 0 Abstentions 0 Abstentions 14 Agree (w/comment: Boswell) 7 Agree (w/comment: Black, Humm, Smith)4 Disagree (Berezowski, Humm,

Nielson, Van Keuren) 11 Disagree (Aiken, Berezowski,

Boswell, Fannin, Fraser, Grill, Mundy, Parrish, Reiswig, Schifiliti, Van Keuren)

There are two criteria necessary to pass ballot [(1) simple majority (2) affirmative ¾ vote]. Both questions must pass ballot in order to recommend that the Standards Council issues this TIA. (1) In all cases, an affirmative vote of at least a simple majority of the total membership eligible to vote is

required. [20 eligible ÷ 2 =10 + 1 = (11)]

(2) The number of affirmative votes needed to satisfy the ¾ requirement is 14.

(20 eligible to vote - 2 not returned - 0 abstentions = 18 × 0.75 = 13.5 = 14) The Final Technical Committee and Correlating Committee ballot results will be published at the conclusion of the Public Comment Circulation period. An appeal relating to a proposed Tentative Interim Amendment shall be filed no later than 5 days after the notice of the Final TIA ballot results are published in accordance with 1.6.2 (c) and 4.2.6. Attachment

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. X AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. No correlation issue. Current Code does not prohibit accessory devices.

Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE X DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. Products exist to serve the purpose and be code-compliant therefore there is no emergency.

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Signature Dave Boswell Name (Please Print) December 30, 2014 Date Please return the ballot on or before Wednesday, January 7, 2015. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. ____X________ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE ____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ There is no technical merit for the TIA, therefore there is no emergency nature.

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Signature: Name: Bruce Fraser Date: December 28, 2014 Please return the ballot on or before Wednesday, January 7, 2015. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. ___X_________ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ __I don’t believe there is a correlation issue. I agree with the TC action.

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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE _____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. _____________________________________________________________________ __I don’t believe the issue is of an emergency nature. _____________________

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__ ______________________________ Signature ___Raymond A. Grill_______________ Name (Please Print) ___1/6/2015______________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Wednesday, January 7, 2015. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOTPROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions ofNFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copyenclosed) of the NFPA Regs.

____ XX______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

*An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevantsection(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe._____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE.

____________ AGREE _____XX_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN*

EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments:

_As currently written, section 29.3.8.1 does not prohibit the use of smoke alarm accessorydevices from producing the low frequency audible signal. At present there are several listedsmoke alarm accessory products that produce the low frequency audible alarm signal._____________________________________________________________________

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Name (Please Print)James M Mundy JrDate 15 January 2015

Please return, on or before, the Ballot Circulation due date of Friday, January 16, 2015.

PLEASE RETURN TO:Jenny Depew, Project AdministratorNFPA1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. ____X________ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _I do not see any correlation issue.________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE _____X_______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position. ___The committee has clearly stated by overwhelming majority that there is not an emergency nature. I agree with the committee ballots and too do not see any emergency nature to require this TIA to go forward. _____________________________________________________________________

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___ _____________________________ Signature ____Rodger Reiswig____________________________ Name (Please Print) ____December 19, 2014____________________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Wednesday, January 7, 2015. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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CORRELATING COMMITTEE LETTER BALLOT PROPOSED TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT LOG NO. 1163

To add a new subsection 29.3.8.1.1 in the 2013 and Proposed 2016 Editions of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code

Question 1: I agree that there are no correlation issues in accordance with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 (copy enclosed) of the NFPA Regs. _____xx______ AGREE ____________ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a disagreement or abstaining position. If disagreeing, cite relevant section(s)/paragraph(s) of the correlation issue and describe. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________

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Question 2: I agree that the subject of this TIA is of an EMERGENCY NATURE. ____________ AGREE ______xx______ DISAGREE* ____________ ABSTAIN* EXPLANATION OF VOTE - Please type or print your comments: *An explanation must accompany a negative/disagreement or abstaining position.

_____________________________________________________________________ While this might point out that accessory appliances can be used, the code already allows that. And, as written is might preclude the use of these accessory in circumstances where smoke alarms that have the required signal are available.

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________________________________ Signature _Robert Schifiliti_______________________________ Name (Please Print) ___2014 12 30_____________________________ Date Please return the ballot on or before Wednesday, January 7, 2015. PLEASE RETURN TO: Jenny Depew, Project Administrator NFPA 1 Batterymarch Park Quincy, MA 02169 FAX: (617) 770-0700 E-mail: [email protected]

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