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Partial Saponification in
Cold-Process Soap
Kevin M. Dunn
Spring 2013
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Acknowledgements
• Mike Lawson/Columbus Foods
• Hampden-Sydney College
• Meade Edmunds
• John Dekarske
• Caleb Watkins
• Andrew McLeod
• Robert O’Cain
• Jay Rawles
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Background Chemistry
Background Chemistry
Oil and water don’t mix.
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Background Chemistry
Oil and Water
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Background Chemistry
Nerds and Cheerleaders
Lipophilic
Hydrophilic
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Oil and Lye
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
One Soap
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Two Soaps
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Three Soaps and a Glycerin
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Soap: A Nerdy Cheerleader
Amphiphilic
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Saturated Fatty Acids
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Oil, Lye and and Soap
Unsaturated Fatty Acids
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Soap and Vinegar
Soap + H+
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Soap and Vinegar
Soap + H+ = Fatty Acid
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Fatty Acid and Lye
Fatty Acid + OH-
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Fatty Acid and Lye
Fatty Acid + OH- = Soap + Water
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Equilibrium
Soap/Fatty Acid Equilibrium
• Soap (pH 10, universal indicator blue)
• Soap + Fatty Acid (pH 7, universal indicator green)
• Fatty Acid + Soap (pH 6, universal indicator yellow)
• Fatty Acid (pH 5, universal indicator orange)
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Equilibrium
Soap/Fatty Acid Equilibrium
• 5 mL of saturated soap solution in half bottle of water
• A few drops of universal indicator shows pH
• Make sure cap is on bottle before shaking
• Add vinegar (red pipet) a few drops at a time to lower pH
• Add ammonia (blue pipet) a few drops at a time to raise pH
• Note the quality of suds after each addition
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AAAGs, AAGs, AGs, and Gs
Triacylglyceride (AAAG)
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AAAGs, AAGs, AGs, and Gs
Diacylglyceride (AAG)
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AAAGs, AAGs, AGs, and Gs
Monoacylglyceride (AG)
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AAAGs, AAGs, AGs, and Gs
Glycerol (G)
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• AAAG + 1 NaOH = AAG + 1 NaA (Soap) + 1 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• AAAG + 1 NaOH = AAG + 1 NaA (Soap) + 1 H2O
• AAAG + 2 NaOH = AG + 2 NaA (Soap) + 2 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• AAAG + 1 NaOH = AAG + 1 NaA (Soap) + 1 H2O
• AAAG + 2 NaOH = AG + 2 NaA (Soap) + 2 H2O
• AAAG + 3 NaOH = G + 3 NaA (Soap) + 3 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• AAAG + 1 NaOH = AAG + 1 NaA (Soap) + 1 H2O
• AAAG + 2 NaOH = AG + 2 NaA (Soap) + 2 H2O
• AAAG + 3 NaOH = G + 3 NaA (Soap) + 3 H2O
• AAAG + 4 NaOH = G + 3 NaA (Soap) + 3 H2O + 1 NaOH
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
• 2 AAAG + 6 NaOH = 2 G + 6 NaA + 6 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
• 2 AAAG + 6 NaOH = 2 G + 6 NaA + 6 H2O
• 3 AAAG + 9 NaOH = 3 G + 9 NaA + 9 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
• 2 AAAG + 6 NaOH = 2 G + 6 NaA + 6 H2O
• 3 AAAG + 9 NaOH = 3 G + 9 NaA + 9 H2O
• 4 AAAG + 12 NaOH = 4 G + 12 NaA + 12 H2O
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
• 2 AAAG + 6 NaOH = 2 G + 6 NaA + 6 H2O
• 3 AAAG + 9 NaOH = 3 G + 9 NaA + 9 H2O
• 4 AAAG + 12 NaOH = 4 G + 12 NaA + 12 H2O
• 10 AAAG + 30 NaOH = ?
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The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
The Stoichiometric Hypothesis
• 1 AAAG + 3 NaOH = 1 G + 3 NaA + 3 H2O
• 2 AAAG + 6 NaOH = 2 G + 6 NaA + 6 H2O
• 3 AAAG + 9 NaOH = 3 G + 9 NaA + 9 H2O
• 4 AAAG + 12 NaOH = 4 G + 12 NaA + 12 H2O
• 10 AAAG + 30 NaOH = 10 G + 30 NaA + 30 H2O
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The Lye Discount
10% Lye Discount
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = ?
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The Lye Discount
10% Lye Discount
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 9 G + 1 AAAG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
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The Lye Discount
10% Lye Discount
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 9 G + 1 AAAG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 7 G + 3 AG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
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The Lye Discount
10% Lye Discount
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 9 G + 1 AAAG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 7 G + 3 AG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
• 10 AAAG + 27 NaOH = 8 G + 1 AAG + 1 AG + 27 NaA + 27 H2O
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The Lye Discount
Glycerol
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Lye Discounting vs Superfatting
Lye Discounting vs Superfatting
Lye Discounting
• We don’t want excess lye in our soap.
• So we add less lye than the SAP indicates.
Superfatting
• We want an excess of a “desirable” oil in our soap.
• So we add more oil than the SAP indicates.
• And we add the desirable oil at trace.
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Lye Discounting vs Superfatting
The Superfatting Hypothesis
The later an oil is added during the soapmaking process, the more
likely it is to remain unreacted in the finished soap. Thus desir-
able superfatting oils should be added at the last possible mo-
ment.
This is the conventional wisdom, but is it possible to test this
hypothesis?
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The Superfatting Experiment
The Superfatting Experiment
• Two soaps were made, both containing 91% coconut oil and 9%
olive oil.
• Both soaps were made using a 5% lye discount.
• For soap A, olive oil was added to the coconut oil at the begin-
ning. (Discounting 5%)
• For soap B, olive oil was added to the coconut oil at trace. (Su-
perfatting 5%)
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The Superfatting Experiment
Extracting the Unreacted Oil
• Both soaps contain unsaponified or partially saponified oil.
• Oil was extracted from each soap using ether.
• The extracted oils were analysed for percent oleic acid.
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The Superfatting Experiment
Superfatting Results
• The oil used was 9% olive oil / 91% coconut oil.
• Oils were mixed at the beginning for Soap A.
• Olive oil was added at trace for Soap B.
• The original oil contained 7% oleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap A contained 22% oleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap B contained 22% oleic acid.
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The Superfatting Experiment
Superfatting Results
• The test was repeated using 10% castor oil / 90% palm oil.
• A 10% lye discount was used.
• The original oil contained 9% ricinoleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap A contained 4% ricinoleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap B contained 4% ricinoleic acid.
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The Superfatting Experiment
Superfatting Results
• The test was repeated using 10% grapeseed oil / 90% palm oil.
• A 10% lye discount was used.
• The original oil contained 9% linoleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap A contained 19% linoleic acid.
• The oil extracted from Soap B contained 17% linoleic acid.
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The Superfatting Experiment
Superfatting Conclusions
• For the oils studied, it did not matter whether the superfatting
oil was added before or at trace.
• The "superfatting" oil may react more or less quickly than the
base oil.
• The unreacted oil in soap is mostly base oil but may contain the
"superfatting" oil if it reacts more slowly than the base oil.
• The "superfatting" oil may be beneficial because of the soap pro-
duced rather than the oil remaining unreacted.
• For the oil combinations studied, there is no difference between
superfatting and discounting.
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba "Oil": A Special Case
• Jojoba has been in short supply (2010-2012).
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba "Oil": A Special Case
• Jojoba has been in short supply (2010-2012).
• Jojoba is still expensive.
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba "Oil": A Special Case
• Jojoba has been in short supply (2010-2012).
• Jojoba is still expensive.
• Jojoba is not a triacylglyceride--it is a wax ester.
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba "Oil": A Special Case
• Jojoba has been in short supply (2010-2012).
• Jojoba is still expensive.
• Jojoba is not a triacylglyceride--it is a wax ester.
• How does Jojoba saponify?
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba: A Wax Ester
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Saponified Jojoba
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba Delight
• Jojoba Delight: 39% Olive, 28% Palm, 28% Coconut, 5% Jojoba
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba Delight
• Jojoba Delight: 39% Olive, 28% Palm, 28% Coconut, 5% Jojoba
• 3% lye discount
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba Delight
• Jojoba Delight: 39% Olive, 28% Palm, 28% Coconut, 5% Jojoba
• 3% lye discount
• Fatty matter extracted with petroleum ether
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba Delight
• Jojoba Delight: 39% Olive, 28% Palm, 28% Coconut, 5% Jojoba
• 3% lye discount
• Fatty matter extracted with petroleum ether
• Extract contained mostly fatty alcohol
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Jojoba Delight
• Jojoba Delight: 39% Olive, 28% Palm, 28% Coconut, 5% Jojoba
• 3% lye discount
• Fatty matter extracted with petroleum ether
• Extract contained mostly fatty alcohol
• Extract contained no unsaponified ester
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Bonus Jojoba Material
Cetyl Alcohol
Cetyl alcohol is an inexpensive fatty alcohol that can be substi-
tuted for jojoba in soap (not cosmetics). Substitute 2 oz of jojoba
with 1 oz of cetyl alcohol.
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Scientific Soapmaking
Questions
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Scientific Soapmaking
Scientific Soapmaking
Thanks to the HSCG for all the questions I could not have an-
swered 8 years ago.
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Scientific Soapmaking
Scientific Soapmaking
Thanks to the HSCG for all the questions I may be able to answer
in the coming years.