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i iu cn lu khi b x pht li "sai ln"December 11, 2014 at 4:13pmTham gia giao thng H Ni, ad rt bc xc khi nhiu trng hp ngi dn khng vi phm Lut m CSGT da vo s thiu hiu bit ca a s ngi dn da nt, khng li thnh c li, li nh thnh li to. in hnh trong thi gian qua l li "sai ln". Nh vy, khi no b li "sai ln"? Ad tm tng hp thng tin chnh nh sau:

I. Khng chp hnh hiu lnh, ch dn ca bin bo hiu, vch k ng:

nhng ng 3, ng 4 cc dng phng tin c phn ln r phi, r tri v i thng trnh xung t giao thng bng vch k ng + mi tn ch hng i trn mi ln ng v bin bo 411

Bin s 411 "Hng i trn mi ln ng theo vch k ng"

Vch s 1.18:

V d bn r tri m li i vo ln c mi tn i thng th gi l:Khng chp hnh hiu lnh, ch dn ca bin bo hiu, vch k ng.Lu , bin 411 phi c vch 1.18 di th mi hiu lc. Hoc nu ch c ring vch 1.18 th vn hiu lc. Cn trng hp c bin 411 m khng c vch 1.18 th bin khng hiu lc bi bin 411 l bin ch dn, khng th lm cn c x pht.

*Tm li, ti ni giao nhau m i sai hng mi tn ch trn ln ng mnh i trc th dnh li nh tin

II. Li "Sai ln".Khi trn mt ng phn chia thnh nhiu ln c phn bit bng vch k ng, mi ln ch cho 1 s loi phng tin giao thng nht nh i trn . V d: Ln dnh ring cho t con, ln dnh ring cho t ti, ln dnh ring cho xe my... V quan trng l bin bo hiu "ng dnh ring" nh hnh di y:Bin 412 (a,b,c,d) "Ln ng dnh ring cho tng loi xe"

Hoc cc bin bo c m t ".... ng dnh cho ....." nh cc bin:

V d nu bn i t m i vo ln xe my th nh vy mi gi l sai ln.

* Tm li, i vo ln ng dnh ring cho loi phng tin khc HOC i vo ln ng ngc chiu th s b li "sai ln"Cn phn bit r hai li ny bi mc pht chnh nhau rt ln

- Li "Khng chp hnh hiu lnh, ch dn ca bin bo hiu, vch k ng"m t: 70.000 t: 150.000

- Li "Sai ln": "iu khin xe khng i bn phi theo chiu i ca mnh; i khng ng phn ng, ln ng quy nh hoc iu khin xe i trn h ph"m t: 300.000 t: 1.000.000, tc GPLX 1 thng

Nh vy, khi b CSGT dng xe v thng bo li "sai ln' th bn cn kim tra li xem trc c bin 412, 411, mi tn ch hng trn ng (vch 1.18) hay khng. Nu c vch 1.18 m mnh i sai hng => li "khng chp hnh vch"; Nu c 412 (hoc i qua ln ng ngc chiu) => sai ln.

CSGT thng hay da li "sai ln" vi mc pht nng hn ngi vi phm "s" m "50-50", CSGT c tin t ti. Nhng r rng, nu bn i m t m khng bit lut, b da "sai ln" bn 50-50 vi CSGT th s mt 150.000 vo ti bn tham nhng, trong khi mc pht thc t ng li "khng chp hnh..." ch c 70.000 ng gp cho ngn sch quc gia.

Nhiu ni c n mi tn cho php r phi/tri khi n , trn ng khng c bin 411, 412, vch 1.18 nhng CSGT vn c ch ln n mi tn (hoc vch sc hnh qu trm mt ln no ) ni rng "ln ny dnh cho xe r phi/tri" nh vy l sai, v y l iu Ad ang rt bc xc hin nay nn cng mun nhn mnh mt cht.

V d nh trong nh di y m t vic dng vo ln r phi trn ng X n, khiDNG xe trn ln c mi tn r phinh trong nh thCHA vi phmg (v vch 1.18 quy nh hng iti ni giao nhau). Nhng sau aii thng sang Hong Cu(m khng rphiv Tn c Thng/Khm Thin) s d b CSGT ng bn kia "ht", v li ny l li "Khng tun th..." ch khng phi li "sai ln" nh.

V d tip ti ng t Bch Mai - Minh Khai - i La

Nh trong nh, ta thy hai ln ng, pha bn t ng v pha bn xe my ng c phn chia bng vch lin. Pha trc c n mi tn cho php r tri v n tn hiu chnh. Trc khng h c bin 411, 412, vch 1.18. Nh vy khi n xanh, ta c th i thng t v tr ngi chp nh (ln bn tri). CSGT thng chn bt cc xe i thng t ln ny v x pht li "sai ln", ly l do rng n mi tn r tri treo kia quy nh xe i ln bn tri ch c r tri. Nh vy hon ton sai, v c nhiu ngi "cng lut" tranh lun v chin thng CSGT trong trng hp ny.

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Ti ng t Tn c Thng - Quc T Gim - Ct Linh cng tng t, ng phn 3 ln, di lng ng khng c vch 1.18, trc khng c bin 411, th m sng nay ad i ng y thy CSGT chn bt 2 c gi i trn Quc T Gim, t ln gia r tri v Tn c Thng b CSGT bt v l lun rng mun r tri (c n mi tn r tri) phi i vo ln st bn tri. Ngy trc ad cng b dng xe tng t nhng sau khi nghe ad lp lun rng "khng c bin bn mt mt, khng c vch mt - mi tm" th CSGT c v cht d v ly c kim tra giy t ri cho ad i ngay :v.

Ngoi ra, nhng v tr "c php r phi khi n " thng c vch sc cho di nn ng, vch ny (d v sai quy chun) mang ngha cm cc phng tin dng tuy nhinkhng c tc dng phn ln

* Lu : Trng hp c vch mt vng nhng khng c bin ph "n c php r phi" hoc khng bt xanh n ph mi tn r phi th cc bn phi dng li trn vch mt vng ny. V theo quy nh, n tn hiu c hiu lc cao hn vch k ng nn "vch cm dng" m "n cm i" th ta phi dng theo n.

Ad ly v d bo hiu giao thng ti ng t Trn Hng o - B Triu nh sau:

Pha trc khng c bin 411, 412, di mt ng khng c vch 1.18. Nh vy trong trng hp n i thng xanh, bn hon ton c th i thng (khng r phi i B Triu) trn ln c sc cho . V cc xe r phi cng khng bt buc phi i vo khu vc vch mt vng .Vch k kiu mt vng ch c tc dng cm phng tin dng trn n(i chm vn c) ch khng c tc dng phn ln ng. Trng hp bn i thng m DNG ch n trn vch s b li "khng tun th..." (v vch cm dng m ta li dng).

Tuy nhin cc bn khng nn i/dng trong khu vc ny khi khng r phi khi gy xung t giao thng cho cc phng tin r phi.

Cn nh ti Ch Da hng t Nguyn Lng Bng i Khm Thin trc c bin 411, trn cc ln ng ti c v mi tn ch hng i trn tng ln nn cc xe phi i vo khu vc vch mt vng r phi v Khm Thin (cc bn nhn r vch 1.18 hnh mi tn ch cho php r phi trn ln sc cho ). Khi ng ng rt kh cc xe r phi v Khm Thin i vo ci vch cho ny nn rt nhiu ti x r v Khm Thin ti ln gia c mi tn i thng ri b bt bn Khm Thin v b da li "sai ln" mc d li ny chnh xc ch l li "khng chp hnh hiu lnh, ch dn ca bin bo hiu, vch k ng" (mi tn i thng ln gia ni rng rng ch c i thng v Tn c Thng m cc bc li r phi v Khm Thin => khng tun th vch k ng 1.18)

Li "sai ln" ad thy H Ni gp rt nhiu nn s "nh" n ln y mi ngi cng tham kho nh. V khi n im giao ct, mi ngi cng nn trnh dng ti nhng ln ng c vch ch hng m mnh khng theo.

Mong mi ngi tham gia giao thng tnh to.

Bi vit c tham kho bi v nh ca mt s thnh vin trn din notofun.net.

Quy nh v bin bo hiu, vch k ng c trch t QCVN 41:2012/BGTVT "Quy chun k thut quc gia v bo hiu ng b" quy nh v h thng bo hiu ng b

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