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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF PAKISTAN ASSEMBLY DEBATES
_______________________ Wednesday, the 18th June, 2014
_______________________ The National Assembly of Pakistan met in the National Assembly Hall (Parliament House), Islamabad, at 11:04 of the clock in the morning. Mr. Speaker (Sardar Ayaz Sadiq) in the Chair.
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LEAVE OF ABSENCE
Mr. Speaker: Mr. Asad Umar, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave for 14th June, 2014 due to personal reasons. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Syed Ghulam Mustafa Shah, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave from 12th to 20th June, 2014. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Ch. Iftikhar Nazir, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave from 6th to 11th and 14th to 17th June, 2014. Is leave granted?
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(The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Sahibzada Faiz-ul-Hassan, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave from 6th to 16th June, 2014. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Mr. Sohail Shoukat Butt, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave for 6th June, 2014. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Mian Muhammad Rasheed, MNA, has requested for the grant of leave for 6th, 13th and 14th June, 2014. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Mr. Rajab Ali Khan Baloch, Parliamentary Secretary, has requested for the grant of leave for 21st June, 2014 due to personal reasons. Is leave granted? (The leave was granted.)
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DISCUSSION AND VOTING ON DEMAND FOR GRANTS IN RESPECT OF VOTED EXPENDITURE Mr. Speaker: Item No 5, Discussion and voting on demands fro grants in respect of voted expenditure (other than charged expenditure). Now we take up the demand for grant in respect of those Ministries on which there are no cut motions. Demand No. 19. Minister for Finance, Revenue to move Demand No. 19. Minister for Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs, Statistics and Privatization (Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to move that a sum not exceeding Rs. 4,833,899,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of Commerce Division (Demand No. 19). Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 19, as moved, be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 20. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 20. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I am
pleased to move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 4,299,763,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION (Demand No. 20).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 20,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 21. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 21. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move:
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That a sum not exceeding Rs 2,323,033,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION (Demand No. 21).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 21,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 22. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 22. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 14,323,348,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PAKISTAN POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT (Demand No. 22).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 22, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 23. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 23. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 1,333,920,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEFENCE DIVISION (Demand No. 23).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 23,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 24. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 24.
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Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move:
That a sum not exceeding Rs 1,028,376,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of SURVEY OF PAKISTAN (Demand No. 24).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 24,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 25. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 25. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 4,135,851,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EDUCATIONAL
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INSTITUTIONS IN CANTONMENTS AND GARRISONS (Demand No. 25).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 25,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 26. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 26. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 700,000,000,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEFENCE SERVICES (Demand No. 26).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 26,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 27. Minister for Finance to move Demand No. 27.
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 554,750,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEFENCE PRODUCTION DIVISION (Demand No. 27).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 27,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 28. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 28. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move:
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That a sum not exceeding Rs 1,078,548,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of EDUCATION, TRAININGS AND STANDARDS IN HIGHER EDUCATION DIVISION (Demand No. 28).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 28,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. Minister for Finance to
move Demand No. 48. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 122,177,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of HOUSING AND WORKS DIVISION (Demand No. 48).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 48, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 49 Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 49. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 3,132,704,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of CIVIL WORKS (Demand No. 49).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 49,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 50. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 50.
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Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move:
That a sum not exceeding Rs.122,542,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of STATE OFFICES (Demand No. 50).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 50,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 51. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 51. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 72,397,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FEDERAL LODGES (Demand No. 51).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 51,
as moved, may be granted(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 52. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 52. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 261,535,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of INDUSTRIES AND PRODUCTION DIVISION (Demand No. 52).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 52,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 53. Minister for Finance to move Demand No. 53.
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 13,205,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of INVESTMENT PROMOTION AND SUPPLIES (Demand No. 53).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 53,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 54. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 54. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move:
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That a sum not exceeding Rs 622,121,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF INDUSTRIES AND PRODUCTION DIVISION (Demand No. 54).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 54,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 60. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 60. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 3,029,877,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS DIVISION (Demand No. 60).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 60, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 61. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 61. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 1,539,404,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of INTER PROVINCIAL COORDINATION DIVISION (Demand No. 61).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 61,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 71. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 71.
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Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 266,650,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of KASHMIR AFFAIRS AND GILGIT BALTISTAN DIVISION (Demand No. 71).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 71,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 72. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 72. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 876,767,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
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during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF KASHMIR AFFAIRS AND GILGIT BALTISTAN DIVISION (Demand No. 72).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 72,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 73. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 73. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move: That a sum not exceeding Rs 210,433,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of GILGIT BALTISTAN (Demand No. 73).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No. 73,
as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.74
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.829,532,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of LAW, JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS DIVISION (Demand No.74).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.74 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Ok, the question is that Demand No.74 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.75
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.3,015,104,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF LAW, JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS DIVISION (Demand No.75).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.75 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand
No.76
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.305,815,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DISTRICT JUDICIARY, ISLAMABAD CAPITAL TERRITORY (Demand No.76).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.76 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.77
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I am pleased to move a sum not exceeding Rs.1,797,748,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of NATIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY BUREAU (Demand No.77).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.77 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand
No.78
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.1,424,686,000 be granted
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to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (Demand No.78).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.78
as moved be granted. All those in favour of it may say AYE, all those against it may say NO. I think, the AYES have and consequently Demand is granted.
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.79. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.642,891,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of THE SENATE (Demand No.79).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.79 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand
No.81.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.1,559,538,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICES, REGULATIONS AND COORDINATION DIVISION (Demand No.81).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.81 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.82.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.1,016,474,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS AND HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT DIVISION (Demand No.82).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.82 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand No.83
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.311,777,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS DIVISION (Demand No.83).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.83 as moved be granted. All those in favour of it may say
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AYE, all those against it may say NO. I think, the AYES have and consequently Demand is granted.
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand No.87.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.1,026,690,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND REFORM DIVISION (Demand No.87).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.87 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.88.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.618,005,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PORTS AND SHIPPING DIVISION (Demand No.88).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.88 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.89.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.62,957,286,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PAKISTAN RAILWAYS (Demand No.89).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.89 as moved be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.90.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.349,886,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS AND INTER-FAITH HARMONY DIVISION (Demand No.90).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.90 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.91.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move that a sum not exceeding Rs.84,412,000 be
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granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of COUNCIL OF ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY (Demand No.91).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.91 as moved be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.92
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.475,826,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS AND INTER-FAITH HARMONY DIVISION (Demand No.92).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.92 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.93
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.417,386,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DIVISION (Demand No.93).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.93 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.94.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.4,714,513,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DIVISION (Demand No.94).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.94 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand No.95. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.89,029,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of STATES AND FRONTIER REGIONS DIVISION (Demand No.95). Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.95 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Minister to move Demand No.96. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.6,506,663,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during
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the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FRONTIER REGIONS (Demand No.96). Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.96 as moved be granted.(Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.6,506,663,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FRONTIER REGIONS (Demand No.96).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.96, as moved may be granted.
(The demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.97.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.15,462,261,000/- be granted to
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the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FATA.
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.97, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.98.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.3,938,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of MAINTENANCE ALLOWANCES TO EX-RULERS (Demand No.98).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.98, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.99.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.432,238,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of AFGHAN REFUGEES (Demand No.99).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.99,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.100.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.348,977,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of TEXTILE INDUSTRY DIVISION (Demand No.100).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.100, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.102.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.2,197,850,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of CAPITAL OUTLAY ON PURCHASES BY KASHMIR AFFAIRS AND GILGIT – BALTISTAN DIVISION (Demand No.102).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.102, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.109.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.363,000,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF COMMERCE DIVISION (Demand No.109).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.106, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.) Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.110.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.191,130,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF COMMUNICATION DIVISION (Demand No.110).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.110, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.111.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.2,959,034,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
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during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF DEFENCE DIVISION (Demand No.111).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.111, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.112. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move that a sum not exceeding Rs.1,731,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS IN CANTONMENTS AND GARRISONS (Demand No.112).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.112, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.113.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.937,327,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF DEFENSE PRODUCTION DIVISION (Demand No.113).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.113, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.114.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.3,451,256,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF EDUCATION, TRAININGS AND STANDARDS IN HIGHER EDUCATIN DIVISION (Demand No.114).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.114,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.122. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move that a sum not exceeding Rs.555,739,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATON DIVISION (Demand No.122).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.122,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.123.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.412,944,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF INTER-PROVINCIAL COORDINATION DIVISION (Demand No.123).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.123,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.126.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.9,230,000,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF KASHMIR AFFAIRS AND GILGIT-BALTISTAN DIVISION (Demand No.126).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.126, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister of Finance to move demand No.127.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.2,352,209,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF LAW, JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS DIVISION (Demand No.127).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.127,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.129. Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a
sum not exceeding Rs.27,014,667,000/- be granted to
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the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICES, REGULATIONS AND COORDINATIN DIVISION (Demand No.129).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.129,
as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.131.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.81,378,379,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND REFORMATION DIVISION (Demand No.131).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.131, as moved may be granted. (Consequently Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister to move demand No.132.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs.903,853,000/- be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of DEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DIVISION (Demand No.132).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No.132,
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Syed Naveed Qamar: Sir, a paper has just been
circulated by the staff of the National Assembly Secretariat.
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Syed Naveed Qamar: Purportedly is from the Minister for Petroleum. If he is here, I would like him to respond to this.
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Syed Naveed Qamar: But, the point that I am trying to make is simply this that most of the members from the Opposition who belong to either Sindh or Balochistan have been under this impression that all the schemes of SSGC have been frozen for the last one and a half year or one year because of the ban imposed by this Government. And today, I am shocked to read that SNGPL staff will be present in the Assembly Chambers to look after the schemes of primarily the Treasury Benches because it relates to the…..
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Syed Naveed Qamar: Let me make my point.
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Syed Naveed Qamar: Sir, this is not fair. Sir, it
shows the complete discrimination.
G�8EfGH ;�J f_b� : VJ : circular withdraw aJb~;<T
Syed Naveed Qamar: It is not just the issue of the circular, but it is the issue of the attitude of the government.
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Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker can I have the Floor?
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Khaqan to come.
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;< 8? ±P =>?@T D8Gr Ñ8Wz E=8Er: Please please.
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talking of the funds. So there is no question of funds, of going to treasury and not to opposition, that is not the issue. The issue is that these are all old schemes that we are taking about of the previous tenure. These are schemes for which funds were given earlier and the Sui Northern Gas Company and the Sui Southern Gas Company are still in possession of those funds. And particularly Sindh Government had also given some
additional funds which they are also holding.
But they are not carrying out any work whatsoever in Sindh and Balochistan which is being service by Sui Southern Gas Company.
And when I see a circular like this, which says that scheme or their progress is to be handled vis-à-vis Sui Northern Company and the concerned people will be here, then I wonder why is it that the Sui Southern Gas Company projects are not being carried out and only Sui Northern projects are being carried out. If the Minister concerned can kindly answer to this.
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8? ±P CS@T D8Gr Ñ8Wz E=8Er:I think mB >< B dP>v9 M confuse CS@ P;< aJb?± this is
nothing to do with that. It’s about a very wider aspect of things.
G�8EfGH ;�J f_b� : GO _ QB4½ _ QB4 8J :\B;< CS@ we are sending them back. If you have any questions they will go to the Ministry and answer, I don’t want them to be here.
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I have sent them back, I will not allow them to come to the premises of the Parliament. GO 5d ÀpBd\ ]}J f�Ùß B EPt» VG fH8hT _�B n<
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Mr. Speaker: Now I put Demand No.1 to the House. The question is that Demand No.1, as moved be granted. (Consequently, the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 2. The question is that
the Cut Motions as moved on demand No. 2, may be adopted.(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 2 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 2, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 3. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 3, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions wererejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 3 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 3, as moved, may be granted. All those in favour of it may say “Aye”.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 4. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 4, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 4 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 4, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 5. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 5, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 5 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 5, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 6. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 6, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 6 to the
House. The question is that the Demand No. 6, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 7. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 7, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 7 to the
House. The question is that the Demand No. 7, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 8. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 8, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 8 to the
House. The question is that the Demand No. 8, as
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moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 9. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 9, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 9 to the
House. The question is that the Demand No. 9, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand are granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 10. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 10, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 10 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 10, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 11. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 11, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 11 to the
House. The question is that the Demand No. 11, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 12. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 12, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions are rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 12 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 12, as moved, may be granted.(consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 13. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 13, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 13 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 13, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 14. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 14, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions weree rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 14 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 14, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 15. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 15, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 15 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 15, as
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moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 16. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 16, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 16 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 16, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 17. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 17, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 18. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 18, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 105. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 105, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 105 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 105, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 106. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 106, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 106 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 106, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 107. The question is that the cut motions as moved on demand No. 107, may be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 107 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 107, as moved, may be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 108. The question is that
the cut motions as moved on demand No. 108, be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now I put demand No. 108 to the House. The question is that the Demand No. 108, as
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moved, be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs, Statistics and Privatization to move Demand No. 136. Rana Tanvir Sahib.
Rana Tanveer Hussain: Mr. Speaker, that a sum not exceeding Rs. 51,705,000,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of CAPITAL OUTLAY ON DEVELOPMENT OF ATOMIC ENERGY (Demand No. 136).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that demand No. 136,
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DISCUSSION AND VOTING ON CUT MOTIONS ON/OR DEMANDS
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,256,509,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of FINANCE DIVISION (Demand No. 29).
Mr. Speaker: There are 48 cut motions on Demand
No. 29.
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 33. Minister for Finance to move Demand No. 33.
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a
sum not exceeding Rs. 15,906,000,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of OTHER EXPENDITURE OF FINANCE DIVISION (Demand No. 33).
Mr. Speaker: There are two cut motions on
Demand No. 33. Shehryar Afridi Sahib to move cut motion No. 59.
Mr. Shehryar Afridi: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg
to move that the demand under the head “Other Expenditure of Finance Division” (Page No. No. 667) be
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reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the policy of the government to impose withholding tax on cell phone calls at 14% which should be totally eliminated as 80% of cell phone users purchase a Rs. 40/- card and that the poor people do not belong to the class that can claim a refund).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose. Mr. Speaker: The remaining cut motion is clubbed
together and treated as moved. Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 34. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 34. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a
sum not exceeding Rs. 211,609,000,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
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SUPERANNUATION ALLOWANCES AND PENSIONS (Demand No. 34).
Mr. Speaker: There is one cut motion on Demand
No. 34. Sheikh Rashid Ahmed Sahib to move cut motion No. 61.
Sheikh Rashid Ahmed: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I
beg to move that the demand under the head “Superannuation Allowances and Pensions” (Page No. 673) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of Government to enhance pensions of retired government servants in line with record inflation rate).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose.
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 37. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 37.
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Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs. 43,000,000,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of HIGHER EDUCATION COMMISSION (Demand No. 37).
Mr. Speaker: There are two cut motions on Demand No. 37. Sanjay Parwani Sahib to move cut motion No. 62.
Mr. Sanjay Parwani: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg
to move that the demand under the head “Higher Education Commission” (Page No. 699) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of government to construct universities in each district in the country).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose. Mr. Speaker: Belum Hasnain Sahiba to move cut
motion No. 63.
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Ms. Belum Hasnain: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg
to move that the demand under the head “Higher Education Commission” (Page No. 699) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of Higher Education Commission to regulate fee structure of private universities in the country).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it?
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose.
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 38. Minister for Finance to move Demand No. 38.
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a
sum not exceeding Rs. 433,040,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of ECONOMIC AFFAIRS DIVISION (Demand No. 38).
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Mr. Speaker: There are twenty one cut motions on Demand No. 38. Shazia Mari Sahiba to move cut motion No. 81.
Ms. Shazia Mari: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move that the demand under the head “Economic Affairs Division” (Page No. 710) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of government to reduce unemployment rate which has increased to 6.24% in 2013 from 5.95% in 2012).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it?
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose.
Mr. Speaker: Mehboob Alam Sahib to move cut motion No. 70.
Mr. Mehboob Alam: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg to move that the demand under the head “Economic Affairs Division” (Page No. 710) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of government to make
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immediate steps to control depreciation of exchange rate).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose. Mr. Speaker: The remaining cut motions are
clubbed together and treated as moved. Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 39. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 39. Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a
sum not exceeding Rs. 130,993,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of PRIVATIZATION DIVISION (Demand No. 39).
Mr. Speaker: There are thirteen cut motions on
Demand No. 39. Nafisa Shah Sahiba to move cut motion No. 88.
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Dr. Nafisa Shah: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move that the demand under the head “Privatization Division” (Page No. 718) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the profitable state owned enterprises being privatized by the Government as it will lead to loss of valuable state assets).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose. Mr. Speaker: S.A. Iqbal Qadri Sahib to move cut
motion No. 90. S.A. Iqbal Qadri: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move that the demand under the head “Privatization Division” (Page No. 717) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of government to take immediate steps for making a comprehensive national policy for privatization). Thank you.
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose.
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No. 97. Dr. Arif Alvi: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I beg to move
that the demand under the head “Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs” (Page No. 717) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the failure of government to present its policy on privatization for debate in the National Assembly).
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose.
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Mr. Speaker: The remaining cut motions are
clubbed together and treated as moved. Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 40. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 40.
Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I beg to move that a sum not exceeding Rs. 297,095,000 be granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of REVENUE DIVISION commonly known as FBR (Demand No. 40).
Mr. Speaker: There is one cut motion on Demand
No. 40. Siraj Muhammad Khan Sahib to move cut motion No. 98.
Siraj Muhammad Khan: Thank you Mr. Speaker! I
beg to move that the demand under the head “Revenue Division” (Page No. 721) be reduced by Rs. 100/- (To discuss the discrimination in corporate tax between local and foreign investors that is planned to be 33% and
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance do you opposite it? Mr. Mohammad Ishaq Dar: I oppose. Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 41. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No. 41.
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that cut motions as
moved on Demand No. 29, be adopted.(Consequently
the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 29 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 29, as moved,
be granted.(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 30. The question is that
cut motions as moved on Demand No. 30, be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 30 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 30, as moved,
be granted(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 31. The question is that
cut motions as moved on Demand No. 31, be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 31 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 31, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Cut Motions were
rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 32. The question is that
cut motions as moved on Demand No. 32, be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 32 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 32, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 33. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 33, be
adopted. (Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 33 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 33, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 34. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 34, be
adopted. (Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 34 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 34, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 35. Minister for
Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs Division to move
Demand No. 35.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker I beg to
move That a sum not exceeding Rs. 63,937,004,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
GRANTS-IN-AID AND MISCELLANEOUS
ADJUSTMENTS BETWEEN THE FEDERAL AND
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS (Demand No. 35).
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Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 35 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 35, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 36. Minister for
Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs Division to move
Demand No. 36.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker I beg to
move That a sum not exceeding Rs. 508,180,000,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
SUBSIDIES AND MISCELLANEOUS EXPENDITURE
(Demand No. 36).
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Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 36 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 36, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 37. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 37, be
adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 37 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 37, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 38. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 38, be
adopted. (Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 38 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 38, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 39. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 32, be
adopted. (Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 39 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 39, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 40. The question is
that cut motions as moved on Demand No. 40, be
adopted. (Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 40 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 40, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 32. The question is that
cut motions as moved on Demand No. 32, be adopted.
(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 32 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 32, as moved,
be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.40. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.40 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
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Now I put Demand No.40 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.40 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.41. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.41 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.41 to the House. The question is
that the Demand No.41 as moved be granted.
(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.42. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.42 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
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Now I put Demand No.42 to the House. The question is
that the Demand No.42 as moved be granted.
(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.43. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.43 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.43 to the House. The question is
that the Demand No.43 as moved be granted.
(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.44. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.44 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
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Now I put Demand No.44 to the House. The question is
that the Demand No.44 as moved be granted.
(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.103. Minister for Finance,
Revenue, Economic Affairs, Statistics and Privatization to
move Demand No.103.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.18,112,000,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
FEDERAL MISCELLANEOUS INVESTMENTS (Demand
No.103).
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Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.103
as moved may be granted. (Consequently the Demand
was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.104. The question is that Cut
Motion as moved on Demand No.104 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.104 to the House. The question
is that Demand No.104 as moved be granted.
(Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.115. The question is that
the Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.115 be
adopted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
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Now I put Demand No.115 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.115 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.116. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.116 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.116 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.116 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.117. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.117 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
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Now I put Demand No.117 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.117 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.118. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.118 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.118 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.118 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.119. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.119 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
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Now I put Demand No.119 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.119 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.120. The question is that the
Cut Motion as moved on Demand No.120 be adopted.
(Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Now I put Demand No.120 to the House. The
question is that the Demand No.120 as moved be
granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.137. Minister for Finance
to move Demand No.137.
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Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.225,576,000 be granted
to the Federal Government to meet expenditure during
the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of CAPITAL
OUTLAY ON FEDERAL INVESTMENTS (Demand
No.137).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.137
as moved be granted. (Consequently the Demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.138. Minister for Finance to move Demand No.138.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to move a sum not exceeding Rs.118...
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand No.138.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker! I beg to
move a sum not exceeding Rs.118,875,376,000 be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during the year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
DEVELOPMENT LOANS AND ADVANCES BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (Demand No.138).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that Demand No.138
as moved may be granted. All those in favour of it may
say AYE, all those against it may say NO. I think, the
AYES have and consequently Demand is granted.
(After Maghrib prayer)
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Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance to move Demand No.138.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move that a sum not exceeding Rs.118,875,376,000/- be
granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
DEVELOPMENT LOANS AND ADVANCES BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (Demand No.138).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that the Demand
No.138, as moved, may be granted. (The demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No.139, Minister for Finance
to move Demand No.139.
Mr. Muhammad Ishaq Dar: Mr. Speaker, I beg to
move that a sum not exceeding Rs.75,385,950,000/- be
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granted to the Federal Government to meet expenditure
during year ending 30th June, 2015 in respect of
EXTERNAL DEVELOPMENT LOANS AND ADVANCES
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (Demand No.139).
Mr. Speaker: The question is that the Demand
No.139, as moved, be granted. (The demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: The proceedings of the House are
suspended for Maghrib prayer for 15 minutes.
(The House was adjourned for Maghrib prayer to meet again after 15 minutes.) Dr. Azra Fazal Pechuho: And I would strongly urge
the Government to look to setting up the Human Rights
Commissions. The other things that I want to note
basically are that the consulates are not, are the first
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interface of our country in the outside world. And the
consulates now have a very poor infrastructure. And I
would strongly suggest that the Government should give
them a face lift so that a pleasant consulate invites
people and the human interaction with the people who
are living abroad, should be such that it is friendly, it’s
business oriented, it invites people to the consulate and
makes them part of Pakistan. And also I would suggest
that the consulates not only have good, well
professionals working in the consulates but also to
improve the infrastructure. Thank you very much.
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Ms. Shahida Akhtar Ali: Thank you Mr. Speaker.
First of all I would like to condemn the attack on the
honourable member of this august House, Tahira Asif.
Mr. Speaker, it is a barbaric action and we strongly
condemn this action because it is totally against our
norms, values and traditions. Before, going to say
something about the foreign policy, that foreign policy
should be a long term policy, it should not be a
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Engr. Khurram Dastgir Khan: Thank you Mr.
Speaker. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs welcomes every
advice in input and judgment that we receive from the
elected representatives of the people of Pakistan, and
this respect that we have for our elected representatives
the evidence has been clear in the last twelve months,
in which we have revived the Standing Committee on
Foreign Affairs which has met almost every month since
committees were formed, not only the Advisor to the
Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs but also the Special
Assistant they have regularly presented themselves
before the Committee. They have briefed them in-
camera and our relations with Afghanistan and Iran and
with our neighbours and the very fact that at the same
time we are being told a claim has been made that
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Parliament is a relevant the fact, Mr. Speaker, is that on
the expenditures the Standing Committee on Foreign
Affairs were consulted very profoundly and the Standing
Committee gave its approval to our plans.
So, we submit to the collective wisdom of this
House, we submit to the judgment and the opinion of
elected representatives of the people of Pakistan,
because that is where this Government and specially the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs whose responsibility it is to
represent Pakistan across the world draws its strength.
We draw our strength from the people of Pakistan and
the fact is that we continue to be guided by the
principles laid down by the Founding Fathers of this
great country, the Constitution of Pakistan, the
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aspirations of the people of Pakistan. And the objectives
of foreign policy there was a question raised here
regarding the general foreign policy, direction of this
Government.
First, Mr. Speaker is to promote Pakistan as a
dynamic, progressive, moderate and democratic Islamic
country and in this regard the credit should go where it
is due that this Parliament by its very continuity and the
transition happened in May last year in which one
elected Government transferred power peacefully and
constitutionally to another elected Government has done
more to raise Pakistan’s image as a progressive
democratic country than any matter of marketing any
Government to do. This transition has sent a signal to
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the World that Pakistan’s democracy is gaining route,
that the opinion of the people of Pakistan has now
instead of force the will of the people of Pakistan is the
foundation on which Pakistan will be governed. No. 2 Mr.
Speaker, it is our priority to develop friendly relations
with all countries of the World. Friendship for all, malice
for none but especially the Islamic countries, our
neighbours and the major powers who are present in
the region and we have to have some form of
relationship with them which I will be speaking little bit
later on this. The 3rd pillar of our foreign policy is to
safeguard our national security and geo-strategic
interests including Kashmir. It was after many years Mr.
Speaker that when Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif went to
the United Nations last autumn, his forceful advocacy of
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the Kashmir issue, his reassertion of the basis on U.N.
resolutions was the most forceful one that we have seen
in many years. We have asserted our national interests.
The 4th pillar is to consolidate our commercial and
economic cooperation with International community. I will
have something to say on this shortly. The 5th is and
this is the interest that is now gaining an importance is
to safeguard the interest of the Pakistani diaspora
abroad. We have now a very large number of Pakistanis
spread across the World whose interest we need to
defend and we are defending them. And the 6th of
course is to ensure optimal utilization of national
resources for regional and international cooperation. But
most specifically Mr. Speaker, this Government led by
Prime Minister Muhammad Nawz since assuming office
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in June last year has focused as I have said on
safeguarding the national interests and of course a part
of that interest is that the first directive, the letter that
the Prime Minister wrote to all missions of Pakistan
abroad clearly spelled out that in addition to
safeguarding the national interests one of the principle
priorities of this Government is to promote, propagate,
defend and obtain Pakistan’s commercial interest abroad.
This was in the first letter that the Prime Minister wrote
to all the missions. Our second part is building a
peaceful neighborhood, brick by brick. Of course, it is
very convenient. To say the Prime Minister has gone on
endless foreign tours but there is Mr. Speaker, through
you I urge this House to kindly see where the Prime
Minister has gone. He has gone to China, he has gone
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to India, he has gone to Afghanistan, he has gone to
Iran, he has gone to Sri Lanka and he is just returned
this afternoon from Tajikistan. So through our actions, Mr.
Speaker, we are proving that we are building a peaceful
neighborhood and apart of building this peaceful
neighborhood. I am sure some members of this House
have noticed this but I want to say it out straight that
the presidential election in Afghanistan was the first one
in which Pakistan played a startedly and deliberately
neutral role. We did not play favorites. We have a
communication open with all parties and now we can
see that the relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan
are reaching a positive keen. The next aspect, I am
most brief and I watching the clock as much as you are
Mr. Speaker, is to concentrate on economic diplomacy
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and on seeking trade not aid so whether in the
unprecedented achievements for obtaining ten years long
GSP plus from he European Union. We have re-
established our trade relationship with almost every
country the Prime Minister has visited including the
United States. We have not sought aid Mr. Speaker. We
have sought trade and we have also made a deliberate
and concentrated effort to improve the quality of services
that our missions provide to Pakistanis living abroad. In
the interest of brevity I will limit myself to the challenge
this Government faced in 2013 when the Kingdom of
Saudi Arabia is suited a new policy of southtization and
more than a million Pakistanis were under threat of
losing their jobs, their livelihoods being deported. And it
was only through the vigorous diplomacy of our mission
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in Riyadh, our Consulate General scattered across the
Kingdom and of course our Foreign Office that this
Government Mr. Speaker, was able to regularize 950000
Pakistanis in Saudi Arabia within a space of few months.
You cannot take away this achievement Mr. Speaker.
We have tried very hard and now I would urge as all
members continue to visit different countries that they
will see that with each passing month the facilities are
improving. The length of services, the days services are
available, the deeper I.T. integration is improving
because we intend to serve the citizens of Pakistan
living abroad. And Mr. Speaker, this is an opportunity for
me that while we welcome the input of our elected
representatives. It is also the fact and I can only urge
them to do this, request them to do this. Is that while
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yes, we all have our specific role to play in politics but
let us be aware of what are our statements and our
actions have an effect on our foreign policy. It is not a
restriction, it is suggestion of vigilance, be vigilant that
whatever action you are taking as a political party or
some Government does have an effect on our foreign
relations and we are held responsible for what we are
not responsible but we stand up for Pakistan, we will
answer for Pakistan and we will promote Pakistan
because it is the policy of the Government of Prime
Minister Nawaz Sharif to take decisions based not on
doubts Mr. Speaker. We will take decisions based on
determination not doubts determination and we shall
defend Pakistan’s interest vigorously and we shall
continue to do so because it is the will of the people of
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Pakistan that we are following. I thank you very much
Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker: Thank you. Demand No. 45. The
question is that cut motions as moved on demand No. 45 be adopted. (Consequently the cut motions were rejected)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 45. The question is that the cut motions, as moved, on Demand No. 45 be adopted. (Consequently the Cut Motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 45 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 45, as moved, be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 46. The question is that the cut motions, as moved, on Demand No. 46 be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
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Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 46 to the House. The question is that Demand No. 46, as moved, be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 47. The question is that the cut motions, as moved, on Demand No. 47 be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 47 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 47, as moved, be granted.(Consequently the demand is granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Demand No. 140. The question is that the cut motions, as moved, on Demand No. 140 be adopted.(Consequently the cut motions were rejected.)
Mr. Speaker: Now, I put Demand No. 140 to the
House. The question is that Demand No. 140, as moved, be granted.(Consequently the demand was granted.)
Mr. Speaker: Minister for Finance.
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The House is adjourned to meet again on Thursday, the 19th June, 2014, at 10.00 a.m. (The House was adjourned to meet again on Thursday t he 19th June, 2014, at 10:00 a.m.)