madison street - community meeting
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Streets are not just for moving traffic, they are our shared public spaces.
ADISON STREET
Community Meeting Number 2 Wednesday June 1st, 2011
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What are we presenting tonight?
An in-progress look at the work of a wonderful Steering Committee
of concerned citizens, business and property owners
who worked diligently for almost 6 months on
Concepts for a Renewed Madison Street
under the watchful eye of the Village Manger and Staff
How do we present 6 months of work at one meeting AND how did the design team get here?
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Selection Process for Design Team
Request For Proposals Issued
Proposals Reviewed by Village
Interviews of Teams
and Final Selection by Village Staff
and Representatives of
The Madison Street Business Association
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TTOPOGRAPHICOPOGRAPHIC SSURVEYURVEY
John Murphy, PE, PLSJohn Murphy, PE, PLS
PPROJECTROJECT EENGINEERSNGINEERS
Jason Souden, PEJason Souden, PE
Bryan Luke, PEBryan Luke, PE
PHASE IIPHASE I
Christopher B. Burke
Engineering, Ltd.
Christopher B. Burke Engineering, Ltd.
PHASE III
Christopher B. Burke Engineering, Ltd.
CCONSTRUCTIONONSTRUCTION
MMANAGERANAGER
W. Daniel Crosson, PEW. Daniel Crosson, PE
RRESIDENTESIDENT
EENGINEERSNGINEERS Lisa Gasperec, PELisa Gasperec, PE
Tracy Wais, EITracy Wais, EI DDECORATIVEECORATIVE LLIGHTINGIGHTING
John Caruso, PEJohn Caruso, PE
Anthony DeRicco, PE, LEED APAnthony DeRicco, PE, LEED AP
thomas engineering
group, llc
The Project Team
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Urban Design and Landscape Design
5 members of Altamanu live and/or were raised in Oak Park
Local Knowledge and Worked with the Community 10 park master plans
High Standard of Urban and Streetscape Design
.
StreetscapesCity of Chicago, Winnetka, Batavia, many with CBBEL including first road diet in Chicago that has already become a model
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Sustainability
ALTAMANU INC.
Green storm water management systems, Permeable pavement, storm water planters, bio-swales, constructed soils,
Silva Cells, Root Paths, Root aeration matting, Recycling materials Sustainable Planting. Native Planting, LED technology
Perm
e-ablepavements
nativeadapted
plants
GreenRoof
Underground
storm
Waterretention
Bio
Swalesustainable
materials
Worked with CBBEL and SSE on Sustainable Projects Lawrence Avenue University of Chicago Chicago Ped Plan
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Founded in 1986, grown to 225 employees (Bryan Luke used to live on Ridgeland)
88 PEs (4 with PhDs), 2 SEs, 5 PLSs, 1 ASLA, 18 CPESCs and 34 CFMs
Full Range of Engineering, Surveying & Environmental Services
Engineers with Expertise in Streetscape Design including:
Experience in Public Involvement and IDOT Coordination
Extensive Municipal Engineering Experience
Traffic Signal Design
Construction Engineering
Sustainable Development
Stormwater management
Lighting
Re-use of materials
Designing to purpose/need of project
Environmental Studies
Geometric Studies
Traffic Modeling/Analysis
Plans, Specifications andEstimates
Permitting
Lighting Design
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Recent Streetscape Experience
Phase I & II (Concept & Engineering Design)
Lawrence Avenue Sscp, Chicago
95th Street Sscp, Chicago
Devon Avenue Sscp, Chicago
All with Altamanu
Phase III (Construction Services)
Ridgeland Ave Resurfacing, Oak Park
North Avenue Sscp, Oak Park
Phase I, II & III
Lockport Street Sscp, Plainfield
Old Main Street Sscp, Roselle
Franklin Street Sscp, Forest Park
Lawrence Avenue Sscp, Harwood Heights
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Multi-Disciplinary Innovative Solutions
90+ Employees
Engineers, Planners, Urban Designers
Chicago, Los Angeles, New York,
Newark, Philadelphia, Tampa, Washington, DC
Expertise
Traffic Engineering
Transportation Planning
Planning and Urban Design
Transit and Rail Services
Community Outreach
Construction Engineering + Inspection
Traffic Safety + Research
Pedestrian Management
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Recent Streetscape Experience
Traffic Management
Instant space New York
Road diets, bike/Ped systems
Shared/Complete Streets
Bucktown Wicker Park
University of Chicago
Projects with Altamanu: Transportation Plan for the University of Chicago and The Chicago Pedestrian Plan
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TONIGHT
Differing Perspectives of the StreetNeighbors, Village Trustees, Business Association
The Once and Future Street
The various incarnations of Madison Street
Urban Design
Creating Spaces and Places
Design Alternatives
Discussion
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How do Neighbors (a variety of groups) view Madison Street?
We avoid Madison unless we are travelling across town
It is a barrier between neighborhoods
Madison is for outsiders we do not use it very much
(Regional versus Local, No perceived ownership)
Safer to use side streets because of speeding traffic
Not ped friendlyTraffic is too fast
Scary and Dangerous, Slow traffic down
What will be the return on our investment?
It doesn't need to be like Forest Park (uses not appearance)
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Some of the Comments by Trustees
Change is needed
It is not working well nowIt needs economic regeneration
Many empty sites
If we are going to do it we do it well
We need to set the stage for redevelopment
Madison Street should be:
Progressive, Dramatic, Distinctive, Forward looking
Pedestrian friendly, Promote Health
Cutting edge, Sustainable, Welcoming,
Make a regional and national statement,Put Oak Park back on the map
but
Keep or add to parking .
And give us a good return on our investment
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Some of the Comments by Business Community
Forest Park is a good example
If I hear about Forest Park again I will scream
Safety and Security, lights will help
If we got new lighting it would be a victory
Sustainable, walkable, ped friendly, healthy, sense of community
Slower traffic, better for business
Need pedestrians and vibrancy
Connect North South across Madison
Was auto and lively but thats gone, what will bring vibrancy?
If redeveloped we will need more parking (Example Als Grille)
Tough just trying to stay in business, taxes,
Need more density
Consensus on
these issues
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Madison StreetOnce and Future Street
Some of the many incarnations of Madison Street
1988
1903
85years
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Some of the many incarnations of Madison Street
Recognize the View?
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Wendys and Jiffy Lube and sidewalks Are they invested in the community?
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Some of the many incarnations of Madison Street
Auto Row Sales, Service and Parts
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What is Waning
Auto Row
Sales and Service
What is Coming
Standard American
Commercial Strip w/
Drive-Through or Large Parking Lot
Many sites Await the Impetus to Change and maybe that is what we can supply
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HoweverChicken and Waffles is doing well and uses street parking
Though drop-off is an issue. What happens if other similar businesss open?
?So which way do we go?
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Many undeveloped Sites
Await the Impetus to Changeand maybe that is what we can supply
Member of the Madison Street Steering Committee
So what can streetscape treatments do for our local economy
and for our residents
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Our streets establish our image of our community. What does Madison say to us?
Our streets instantly communicate our shared identity to resident and visitor alike.
(What others think about us? Particularly if they use Harlem and Madison)
Streetscape treatments instantly convey the level of commitment a community is
willing to undertake to assist development.
Our streets and their character attract visitors and enhance the lives of our residents.
Streetscape treatments effects the health, vitality, safety, quality of life, connectivity
and therefore the economic welfare of all of us
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Cross section is 72 ft
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What does this streetscape say - Harsh environment would you stroll and shop here?
no trees and sidewalk is 8-10 at Chase on south side and 8-3 on north at District 97.
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It was a Parking /Auto corridor The parking certainly remains but the buildings are going
Parking lot for Comcast Building
Parking lot for Walgreens
Parking for Leona's and Schools
Looking East from Carpenter
Individualized Parking Lots Some Grandfathered In
Village did a great job with screening the Walgreens Lot
But Parking Lots create long stretches of negative space and no development.
Why would anyone walk along here?
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120 ft cross section
Much wider cross section (+48 ft) 120 versus 72 ft but what does it feel like to be on Madison?
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Staggered intersection and cul-de-sacs
Some streets do not go through - Staggered Intersections make traffic movement more difficult
Lets look at the street
Cul-de -sac
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Staggered intersection at Scoville
Who counts at a Typical Staggered Intersection? Cars, Pedestrians, Bikes?
The work of the transportation engineer is not easy
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Staggered intersection at Scoville
Here are the movements accommodated
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Staggered intersection at Scoville
Now add in Pedestrians and Cyclists
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The Result..
We have made it safer for cars and trucks than for our kids Resident
Wh d i hb di lik h S ?
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Why do neighbors dislike the Street?
Traditional Street DesignWe want to change this
Often pedestrians are not even seen as legitimate users of the road. Until recently they
were referred to as traffic flow interruptions in the Highway Capacity Manual, the
primary road design reference book for traffic engineers.
Caught in the Crosswalk, Surface Transportation Policy Project, 1999
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The larger community has expressed the need and a desire for change
We do not want to be traffic flow interruptions
Walkable CommunitiesOur health is the issue
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But Oak Park is known as a place to raise kids right????
We have made it safer for cars and trucks than for our kids Resident
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Amazing how many major schools are north of Madison
St Catherine's/ St Lucy
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Lets go to Julian, We care about
our kids...right?
Path is cut by turning lanes, blocked by signs, have to walk in CVS property, has no island refuge.
So what is really important at this intersection?
Right hand turn lane 8 turns per hour
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And Fenwick
No pedestrian refuge
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The Once and Future Street Which way to go
The street is not pedestrian or bike friendly
Is seen as a barrier and unsafe by community and the bybusiness community
We want the community to use it more
(Village and Business Community)
And for the community to take ownership
Then it will have to change
It lacks a clear identity
25 to 30% of users go straight through and do not stop
Is Madison Street merely a traffic bye pass for I-290?
What should Madison Street be?
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From the Master Plan Minimal Impact Scheme
Trees only at new setbacks, new lights, signage.this we can do as one alternate
We want to have a more positive impact
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From the Master Plan Minimal Impact Scheme No Major Change
We set out to see if we could do more
Lights, enhanced median, areas for outdoor seating no major change
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Working with The Madison Street Steering Committee
We have looked at many, many, many Design Alternates
Consensus that Madison Street should be a complete street
What is a complete street?
The entire right of way is designed and operated to enable safe access for all users
And we would add with RESPECT for all users
But we went further
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A highway has only one function: traffic circulation.
City Streets and plazas have many functions they are
our public spaces.
You show what is important by how you layout a space
If it is laid out for speed and traffic that is what you will get!!!
And if you consider other functions besides auto/truck traffic,
then you persuade people by the layout to behave differently
Madison is wide and people speed
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Should bikes be on Madison or on Side streets?
Could become a very important link from Prairie Path to the City
Federal Transportation Secretary Ray La Hood
LaHoods encouragement of more urban biking
has been echoed by incoming mayor Rahm Emanuelwho has pledged to create a world-class bike network
and has hired Gabe Klein, former head of WashingtonD.C.'s Department of Transportation, to fill that role in theWindy City.
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Should bikes be on Madison?
Could become a very important link from Prairie Path to City
Oak Park Bike Map
Remember
We want to change the image of Madison Street
We want to give a different message
The Oak Park Bicycle Plan calls for bike routesthrough the other commercial corridors in Oak Park,
why not Madison St. as well?
A protected bike lane would provide a strong east-
west bicycle connection on the south side of town
But for this to happen we would need a very
different street
Discussion on regional bike system : Jackson mentioned as the preferred route regionally
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Discussion on regional bike system : Jackson mentioned as the preferred route regionally
But Madison bike lanes could connect to system at Home and Lombard
and we could work with the City to make more connections
We looked at using the median for bike lanes and a linear park but too many turning
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Bike Lanes in Center Median
g p y g
movements and too broken up
LOMBARD TO OAK PARK
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Dedicated protected bike lane
(Cycle Track)
- Along edge of the parkway
- Reduced parkway
- Potential access issues- Lose some parkway trees
- Bike/Auto service conflict
Buffered Bike Lane
Could be rumble strips
No change in overall dimensions
But could be issue for
Emergency Vehicles
f di i id b i ffi f
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If Madison is too wide, a barrier, traffic too fast, scary
Maybe we can change the entire format of the street.
Then we began examining the possibility of a Road Diet
What is that?
Narrowing a roadway
Reducing the number of lanes or lane width and adding
it to pedestrian realm and/or adding bike lanes
Benefits include:
Increased safety,
Cross the road more easily
Reduced vehicle speedsReduced collisions and injuries, and
Improved livability and quality of life
New image for the entire street
El Cajon CA
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El Cajon, CA
Completed road diet in their downtown (4 to 2 lanes)
Slowed traffic and widened sidewalks
Property values increased 181%
(compared to citywide increase of 75%)
179 new businesses opened and 746 jobs were created
Much safer with fewer collisions
Completed road diet (4 to 3 lanes with bike lanes)
Majority of merchants thought that slowing
traffic down had been good for business
73% of merchants believed that it had improved
the attractiveness of the street
Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA
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Yeah, Yeah thatsCalifornia what about
in a climate like ours
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Reclaiming Streets for People: Sidewalk Caf's in HalifaxBusiness owners use enlarged sidewalks,
Road diet in Toronto
gives spaces for pedestrians
Cities like Toronto have been doing it for twenty years
Typically, three- and four-lane roadsnarrowed to two or three lanes.
The goals of the St. George Street revitalization were to
calm traffic on this street, to increase pedestrian and
cycling amenities, and in general, to create a more
pleasant area.
4lanes on St. George Street were reduced to 2
sidewalks were widened and greenery was added.
Speed and traffic collisions have decreased
Research on Road Diets Canada is way ahead
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Prior to construction of the first bicycle lanes in the early 1990s, the
Toronto Police had regular speed traps .
When road narrowedSpeed was automatically reduced.
Drivers also slowed down at pedestrian crossings.
(change in perception and behavior)
Narrow Sidewalksenlarged, bike lanes,
raised crosswalks,
plazas, seating, trees
and planting added,
Traffic collisions decreased.
The six-year period following roadnarrowing saw a decrease of 40%
BUT
By 2003, in 6 yearsvirtually the same number of cars
travelled on the road.
Road used for community events
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Road used for community events.
Since 2001, the city has closed a section of St. George as part of its annual Car Free Day, and
other community and city events. (we thought of that for in front of Village Hall)
Domino effects. Based on the success of the St. George road diet, the city narrowed other roads
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From report on Valencia Street Road Diet
Although the project was initially controversial within the local department oftransportation and some members of the community, the general consensus is
that the project is a success. Bicycling along the street has increased dramatically
and has made the street the second most heavily used bicycle route in the city.
The merchants association has shown support for the road diet that has made the
street seem like more ofa destination rather than a drive through arterial
SEEM FAMILIAR?
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Some of the Schemes we looked at
LOMBARD TO OAK PARK
No Road Diet
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No Road Diet
+ Cross section as is
No Road Diet
Dedicated protected bike lane
- Reduced parkway- Potential access issues
- Lose some parkway trees
- Bike/Auto service conflict
+ Cross section as is
No Road Diet
Buffered Bike Lane
Could be rumble stripsNo change in overall dimensions
LOMBARD TO OAK PARK ROAD DIET
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Road diet
+ Dedicated and protected bike lane
- Maneuverability for Emergency vehicle
- Parking maneuver uses thru lane couldback up
- Drainage and snow clearing issues
Same but bike lane and sidewalk flush
This one is not considered a good
solution as peds and bikes mix
AUSTIN TO OAK PARK
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AUSTIN TO OAK PARK
Road diet
+ Dedicated protected bike lane
- Bike/Auto/Services conflict but
limited to north side of street- May lose some median trees since
median shifts
- Parking maneuver uses thru lane
Then we took another approach and widened the Parkways
Committee felt this was too strange
LOMBARD
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Road Diet with Bike lane and wider parkway +6.5
Emergency vehicles?
LOMBARD
The extra pedestrian space could be used for a naturalized linear park setting as in Master Plan
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The extra pedestrian space could be used for a naturalized linear park setting as in Master Plan
Or used for events, outdoor restaurants, mini plazas
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We seemed to be heading in this direction
and then we reviewed Home to Oak Park again
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We would like trees, maybe wider sidewalks
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Concept of wider sidewalks with trees, and a center turning lane and a single through lane
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But if we keep the sidewalks at the same width we could have bike lanes to Home
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Add trees and Remove obstacles in the pedestrian environment including large scale signageHowever way finding will still be important
A dedicated bike lane was examined and was decided it took up too much spaceA shared lane for bikes was decided on instead
C t f th C itt
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Comments from the Committee
If we have a three lane cross section from Home to Oak Park Avenue
could we have the same cross section of roadway all the wayThat way all users would know what to expect
But that would mean taking out the Median.
Median improvements cost $250,000 in 2004-5
But we could reuse the Pre cast Planters and save most of the grasses and
some of the trees
Big move but what would the benefits be?
Lets take a look
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Existing Typical
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With Road Diet and Cycle Track
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Easier and safer
to cross
Less of a barrier
Increased
synergy between
sides of street
For retail and
access to parking
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Certainly announces Oak Park and gives a message
Respect for all
Gives the street back to the community
Draws the two sides of the street together
Aid to synergy between businesses and parking
Slows traffic
Easier to cross
Safer
Aesthetically pleasing
And
We could reuse the Precast Planters and we could save some of the the trees/plantings
Alternate 1 a scheme that really makes a change
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Road Diet, Median removed, Curbs move into road,
Cycle Track with larger parkway (22 becomes 29.5)
Notice there are roadway lights and separate Ped. lights
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With bump outs at the corners the
crossing distance is reduced to 32 ft.
Making street feel much narrower
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crossing reduced from 76 to 32
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Comparison with EXISTING
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Reuse of the Planters and we could save some of the the trees and plantings
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Road Diet, but curbs do not move, Bike Lane with largerparkway (22 becomes 26)
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With bump outs at the corners the
crossing distance is reduced to 52 ft.
Making street feel much narrower
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Crossing is an extra 20ft but bikes and autos together
2 Alternates
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Both road diets
Parkways increased in width
Crossing distance reduced
One has a cycle track
The other has a bike lane
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Create Identity
Divide the street into recognizable/walkable zones
Bring down the scale to human scale
It seems to just go on and on
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To infinity and beyond
Create identity: We have to break down the scale and give the street more of a
memorable personality Divide street into walkable/recognizable zones
Di ide it in t o
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2 different characters along corridor
Divide it in two
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Major Gateways Divide Overall Length
Use Major Gateways to Subdivide into three
Subdivide again Amazing how many schools are north of Madison
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Institutions- important crossings near school zones - Civic Center
Subdivide again Amazing how many schools are north of Madison
St Catherine's/ St Lucy
And again
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Potential Crosswalk Plazas
And again
St Catherine's/ St Lucy
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The Entryway to Oak Park from the West
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Major Gateways Harlem - Preliminary
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The Harlem Intersection is controlled by IDOT
Create Gateway
Remove parking and create a mini plaza/ landscape on 1 st block south side
Close entry/exit to Wendys on to MadisonAdd bump outs to assist with crossing
Add trees and colored cross walks
Queuing turn lane extended
Widen sidewalk in front of Belmont Residences
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3 lane cross section
Add bump outs makes it easier to cross
Add trees and colored cross walks
Expand sidewalks in front of Belmont Village
At Home shared bike lane begins
Bike box at Home gives cyclists safe access to bike route along Home
Clinton to Oak Park Avenue
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Add bump outs
Add trees, colored cross walks.
Colored paving (crossing plaza to Brooks) at Clinton mid-block crossing
Crossing Plazas
lead to Brooks
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Add bump outs
Add trees, colored cross walks.
Colored paving at Clinton mid block crossing
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Crossing Plaza to Brooks and at Day Care Center
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Add bump outs
Add trees, colored cross walks
Create a gateway at Oak Park Avenue
Major Gateways Oak Park Avenue
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Major Gateways Oak Park Avenue - Temporary Structure
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Oak Park to East
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Alternate B
Alternate A
Variation of spaces in expanded Parkways
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p p y
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Looking at Euclid
Alternate B
Alternate A
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Alternate A with Cycle Track, mini plazas, bump outs, parking remains
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Alternate B Bike Lane, bump outs and mini plazas, parking remains
Euclid
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Alternate A Alternate B
Hopefully Fenwick will have a Green Campus opening onto Madison
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Alternate A East to Ridgeland
Alternate B East to Ridgeland
In both schemes there is a crossing plaza at Jewel
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Alternate A at Clarke Gas Station
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Alternate A at Clarke Gas Station
Alternate B at Clark Gas Station
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Alternate B at Clark Gas Station
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Looking at Billys
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Alternate A East to Ridgeland
Alternate B East to Ridgeland
In both schemes there is a crossing plaza at Jewel
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Alternate A Note the reuse of the Planters and we could save some to the trees and plantings
Ridgeland
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Alternate B
Lombard to Austin
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Create a
Distinct Public Space
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Major Gateways Lombard Civic Plaza
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A CIVIC PLAZA/CENTERBump outs for crossing, double row of trees, planters, and sculptural gateway
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Civic Plaza Imagine festivals, Community Events, Join to Plaza in Village HallAlternate 1
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AustinConnect to Chicago was a requestIt was suggested that we should reach out and join both sides of Austin with a Gateway
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Austin
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Lawrence Avenue Road Diet Same Design Team working on this- Lets do it in Oak Park First
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