geneva, 4-5 march 2009 standards for safe interoperable and economic products cyriacus bleijs
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Geneva, 4-5 March 2009
Standards Standards for safe for safe
interoperable interoperable and economic and economic
productsproducts Cyriacus Bleijs
The Fully Networked Car Geneva, 3-4 March 2010
2The electric vehicle is at the cross roads of different industries. It is part of a system
Connective InterfacesIEC 62196(SC23h)
Fixed installationsIEC 60364
EV electrical aspects(if not charging)ISO TS22/SC21
Data transfer JWG IEC/ISO V2G
Battery cells IEC SC21ABattery assemblyISO TC22/SC21
SAE does parallel work
Charging interfaceIEC 61851
(TC69)
Telecom
ITU
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3This in not today’s subject but is a good example
There is still no real agreement on the plugThe EU will probably force a European decision
SAE plugNice!
But not for EuropePity !
Two main contenders
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Standardizing :
EV to Grid communication Roaming
Independant work is also being done by SAE and no real agreement for coopperation is yet acheived
(not to talk of China ….)
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53- Communication is of utmost importance
Source: ERF R&D, novembre 2009
2025
2020
2015
Estiomation of expected impact of VE/VHR 2015, 2020, 2025
Global consumption is acceptable butLocal impact must be solved
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6In the future we wish to orientate the client to chose the optimum charging time
Pleasedon’t charge
here
Charge here
Cost
Mid winter example
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7The battle of harware / protocol standardsSome decisions are premature
Clearing house
Home plug GPCenelec B FSK
Maxim G3Hg.n
HD PLC…….
Home plug AVCenelec B FSK
ZigbeeHg.n
HD PLC…….
Cenelec A FSKCenelec A G3
Prime…….
DLMS COSEMSLM
Smart energy
GSM3G
WiFiZigbee…….
?Which
chanel to use Billing
Load controlDiagnosics
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Recommendation
o Review : ISO IEC agreemento Establish : stand still with other SDO’so Call for a joint governing body of ISO and
OEC on the strategic levelo ballanced membership with more active
members: Utilities , OEM’s, consumers, gov, standardizers
Today things work – but only because the experts do what they can to make it work but there are regional difficulties
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New architecture
o Balanced representation of stakeholderso Generalisation of WEB meetingso Discussion forumso International organizations meetings: SAE + ISO , etc +IP agreementso Joint TC ISO/IEC for all EV work
IEC TC 69 + ISO TC 22 SC 21 + ISO TC 22 SC 3
Geneva, 4-5 March 2009
Thank youThank you
Annex : some standardization activities
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11Work of the joint IEC / ISO WG V2G C1
Information exchange between the vehicle and charge spot
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Main activities
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Committee Standard
Topic update
SAE Hybrid Vehicle Task Force
J1772 Definition of charging connector
Ready mid January 2010, applies only to
US distribution system
SAE Hybrid Vehicle Task Force
J2836 Communication protocol vehicle/grid
?
IEC TC69 61851 Charging systems Ready as FDIS by Feb 2010 consensus
obtained
IEC SC23H 62196 Physical connectors 3 options ,ready as CD for 3[?] months vote
IEC TC22/SC21a PT Li-P Lithium Ion cells CDV stage
IEC TC64 50364-7-760
Electrical installations Sent for approval as a NWIP
Contradiction with TC69 ?
ISO TC22/SC21 2086 Lithium ion batteries Beginning
ISO TC22/SC21 6469 Electric security on EV’s
done
ISO/IEC
TC22/SC3 JWG V2G C1 Communication protocol vehicle/grid
On going no coherence with SAE