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Dave: Heyguys.YouknowIloveDollarShaveClub.I'vebeenusingtheirrazorsforquiteawhilenow,andtheshaveisfantastic.Whatyouprobablydon'tknowisthatthey'vegotabunchofotheramazingoutaswell.Forinstance,they'vegotanewskinrepairserumthat'sgotatonofhyaluronicacidinit,whichissomethingthatyoureally,reallywanttohavecollageninyourskill.
Onceyou'reintheclub,you'llseethatthey'vegotabunchofgoodstuffforyou,andit'sallaffordable.RightnowisyourchancetoseeforyourselfwhysomanyofusloveDollarShaveClub.Ifyou'renotamemberyet,andyou'veneverjoined,nowisthetime.You'llgetyourfirstmonthofrazorsforfree.Justpayshipping.Afterthat,it'sonlyafewbucks.Jointoday.
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Dave: YouarelisteningtoBulletproofRadiowithDaveAsprey.Today'scoolfactofthedayisthatpeople'semotionsaroundeatingareprettydarncomplex,especiallyinsocialsituations,whichamplifiestheemotionsthere.Thatmakessense,becausethere'sonlythreethingsthatyourbodyreallyhastodotomakesurethespeciessurvives.Eateverything,havesexwithasmanythingsaspossibletomakesurethespeciesreproduces,andrunawayorkillthingsthataredangerous.
Prettymuch,that'stheoperatingsystemforbeingahuman.Whenyoucombinepeoplewhomightbedangerousinsocialsituationswithfood,youcanimaginealltheweirdstuffthathappens.IntheJournalofAppetitein2012,theytookthreegroupsoffriends,andtheywantedtoseewhatyourfriendsdidtoyoureatinghabits.
TwooutofthesethreefriendsweresecretlycoachedtonoteattheKryptonitefoodswhilethey'reinthecompanyofathirdfriend.Theresultisthatthethirdpersonlimitedtheunhealthyfoodstheyate,whiletheywerewiththeirfriends,andtheykeptdoingitontheirown,eventhoughtheydidn'tknowthattheirfriendshadbeencoachedtodothat.
Thatstatementaboutyouarewhatyoueat,well,you'realsowhatyourfriendseat,whichiskindofcreepywhenyouthinkaboutit.Thatmeansyouwanttosurroundyourselfwithsomepeoplewhoeatreallywell,andmightIhumblysuggest,surroundyourselfwithsomeBulletprooffriends,becausewe'rekindofcool,youknow?
Beforewegetintotoday'sshow,ifyouhaven'ttriedBulletproofBrainOctaneOil,you'veprobablyheardmetalkaboutitbeingmygo-tosourcetogetbettermentalandphysicalperformance,butyouprobablyhaven'theardallofthereasonswhy.Ithas10timesmoreactivityfromthespecific,single,medium-chaintriglyceridepertablespoonasyoucangetfromcoconutoil.Itproducesaboutfourtimestheamountofketonesascoconutoil,andmuchmorethanplainMCToil.
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It'snotMCToil,it'sasubfractionofMCTwithmorebiologicalactivity.Besidesputtingitinmycoffee,Iactuallyuseitincooking,Iuseitinbaking,andeverysinglemeal,everyday,Iputalittlebitofthisinthere,becauseIneverhavetothinkaboutfood.Wementionedthosethreethingsthatyourbodydoes;eateverything,well,youdon'twanttoeateverythingifyourbody'slike"IhaveallthefoodIneed."BrainOctanesendsthatsignaltomybody.It'sprettyamazingwhathappens.
Ihadsushiforlunch,Ipoureditonmysushi.I'mnothungry,andI'mnotgoingtobehungryforawhile.IalsopostedavideoontheblogaboutthesteakbowlwhichhasBrainOctaneontop.Mysaladdressing,it'severywhere.WhenIdribblesome,IjustputitonmyskinandIswear,it'smyfavoriteoilever.
YoucanfindBrainOctaneOilonBulletproof.com.IfyouhavenottrieditinyourBulletproofCoffee,ifyou'redoingcoconutoil,it'sactuallynot,biologicallythesamething,andtherearetensofthousandsofpeoplewhoswitchtoBrainOctaneOilbecause,ohmygod,itfeelsbetter,itworksbetter,andittakesupto18poundsofcoconutoiltomakeonepoundofBrainOctane,andBrainOctaneistheonlythinglikeitbecauseit'smadeentirelyfromcoconuts.
Thereisnopalmoil,thereisnoorangutanjuice,andnoneoftheenvironmentaldevastationthat'scausedregularMCToil.AvoidMCToilanduseBrainOctane,andyou'llfeelthedifference,you'llhelptheplanet,andyou'remuchlesslikelytofillyourpants.That'swhynoMCT,BrainOctane.
Today'sguestisalong-timefriendandBulletproofambassador.Infact,he'sthefirstBulletproofambassador.Heisamodel,acertifiedBulletproofambassadorandhealthcoach,andhisnameisCrosbyTailor.Crosby,welcometotheshow.
Crosby: What'sup,Dave?Howareyou?It'sgreattobehere.
Dave: Iamdoinggreat,I'mhappyyoucouldcomeonandit'sgoodtoconnectwithyouagain.YouguysmayhaveheardofCrosby,he'sbeenatalloftheBulletproofConferences,andhe'sasugar-freedessertchefandheowns"EatDessert,BurnFat,"andmakesthesecookiesthathavebeeneatenbyamazingcelebritiesandmusicians,andthey'realltherageinLA.I'vecertainlyeatensome,andyou'relike"amIreallyeatingacookiethat'sgoodforme?"Youare.
Crosby'sgotabigSnapchatfollowingwherehesnapsallofthecrazystuffhemakes.WhatareyouCrosbyTailoronSnapchat?
Crosby: CrosbyTailor,yeah.T-A-I-L-O-R.Likeyouwouldseeitonmywebsiteandeverything.Yeah,CrosbyTailor.It'sthesameonInstagram,CrosbyTailor,yeah.
Dave: Cool.Ijustrealized,Ifollowedsomeotherguy,CrosbyT-A-Y.Ifyou'reCrosbyTaylorlistening,ItotallytypeditwrongwhenIwasdoingthat.I'mDaveAspreyonSnapchat.Alotofpeopledon'tknowthatIalsoSnap.Nowwe'veputbothofourSnapchatsonBulletproofRadio,followusboth.
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Crosby: Plugin
Dave: Allofit.Wewerejusttalking.Crosby'salsoaprofessionalhandmodeltoo,becausemostofhisSnapchatsarehimmixingcrazyingredientstomakereallygooddesserts.He'scool.
Allright,let'stalkaboutyourcookies,man.Ithinkthatyouhaveacoolstory.Howdidyougetintomakingdesserts?
Crosby: Oh,man,desserts.ItwasoneofthosethingswhereIhadbeenonahealthjourneyforalongtime.IstartedwithChinesebackgroundandChinesemedicine,anditwasallfromrunningmyselfintothegroundinthemodelingbusiness.IwasoutinNewYork,IwasinLondon,andIwastotallyunderweight.ItwasoneofthosethingswherewhenIgotbacktoLA,wherepeopleareactuallyalittlebitmoreconsciousabouttheirhealth,notjusttheirvanity,Istartedtoseekoutsomethings.ThatledmetoDragonHerbsandRonTeeguardenandworkingwithhim.
ThenovertoErehwon,whereIwasmakingcertainthingsandworkingatthetonicbar.Iwaskindofonthisjourneyandhadsomeissueswithmystomachalongtheride.Itwasallfromthebackgroundofeatingcrappyfoodthatweallgrewupon.Finally,whenIgottoapointwhereIstartedtoshedsomeofthatanddetoxindifferentways,Ibecamesensitivetowheremystomachstartedtofeeleverything.Itwasn'tjustbeingbombardedbyabunchoftoxinsallthetime.NowIhadanactualsensitivestomach,thatwhenIputsomethingbadinit,Ifeltit.
Dave: Right.
Crosby: Youfeltit.LikeallofusthatarekindofmoreonthisBulletproofpath,orinthesehealth-conscious-typediets.IendedupgettingareallybadstomachinfectionfromanH.Pyloriovergrowth,anditputmeonthisroadwhereIhadtogetridofprettymucheverythingthatwouldfeedit,andthatwassugar.
Sugar,sugar,sugar,anytypeofsugar,evenfructose.Icutitalloutofmydiet,whileIrehabbedmystomach.BecauseIhadtogoonsomeantibioticsforit,itwasthatbad.ItgotmetoaplacewhereIhadtorehabilitatemygutinalotofdifferentwaysandkeepthingsawayfromit,butIstillhadsuchasweettooth.Iwaslike"howamIgoingtocravethis?"Iusedtoeatallthesethingsthatmymommadefrombananabreadtochocolatechipcookiestogoinghamonicecreamatnight.Ihadallofthesesamekindofcravings.
Backgroundincollegefootballwhereyoucouldeatwhateveryouwanted,andyou'djusttrain.Now,atthispoint,withthissensitivestomachandthisissue,Ihadtocomeupwithsomealternatives,anditledmetowhenIwasworkingatErehwon,craftingmyowndessertsfromicecreamsoutoftheVitamixtochocolatesandpuddingsandjustlittlestirswhereIwantedtohavesomething.Iwasusingallofthesedifferentsugaralternatives,sugar/sweeteneralternatives,superfoods,andIthinkthat'srightaroundthetimethatIreallygotinterestedinBulletproof.
Iremembere-mailingyou,alongtimeago.Whatisthis,likefouryearsago,maybe?
Dave: Intheveryearlydays,yeah.You'rethiscrazyguy,you'relike"Dave,Iworkatthisgrocerystore,
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andyou'veprobablyneverheardofthem,it's'nowhere'spelledbackwards,"andtheywerethefirstgrocerytocarrytous,Erehwon.ThefirstgrocerytocarryBulletproof,anditwasbecauseyoupulledsomestringstogetusintroduced.They'restillatoppartnertoday.
Crosby: Yeah,forsure.Yeah,thatwaskindofacoolbeginning.Iwasjustreallyintothewholeideabehindeatinggoodfats.BecauseIwaskindofdoingit,butIwasdoingitwiththemonounsaturatedfats.Iwasdoingitwithavocado,througholiveoil.
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: Iwasdoingcoconutoilhereandthere,andIwasn'treallyintothegheeorthebutteryet,untilyoukindofintroducedsomeofthesethings.WhenIgotabunchofproductandstartedusingit,Iactuallydidn'tevendrinkcoffeethen.
Dave: Wow.
Crosby: Nothing,likenoneofthosethingswereinmyrepertoire.
Dave: Inoticedyoulookalotstrongerandmorevibrantnow,andthecoffeeexplainsitall,totally.
Crosby: It'sallthecoffee.IdrinkaBulletproofeverymorning,andpeoplearelike"whatareyoudoing?You'rejustglowing."I'mlike"Ijustdrinkcoffee."No,I'mjustkidding,butpartofit,forsure,yeah.Ihaven'tstopped,theremaybeacoupledifferenttimeswhenIlaidoffcertainthingsandletmybodyreadjust.
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: Eversince,I'vereallyjustbeenhookedonthatwholeideaofgoodfats,keepingmysugarandcarbohydratesdown,andmoderatelevelsofprotein.Mybodycompositionchanged,mybrainchemistrychanged.
Dave: Whathappenedtoyourbrain?Whatdidyouexperienceinyourbrain?Thisisthewholepoint.Idon'tcareabouthavingasixpack,I'mmarried,Ialreadyhavetwokids.WhatdoIneedasixpackfor,right?It'sallaboutwillpowerandenergyforme.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Whathappenedinyourbrainwhenyouswitchedtomoreofthesaturatedandlessofthemonounsaturated?Justwalkmethroughthesubjectivefeelofit.
Crosby: IthinkthebiggestthingthatInoticedwasIjustbecamequicker.Iwentfromeatingthose,Ifeellikealotofthosefatsarereallyslow.Theydigestslower.WhenIkickedmyselfintoaplacewhereIwasusingalotoftheMCTinthebeginning,andyouhadtheXCT,andthenintroducedtheBrainOctane.OnceIgotuptotheBrainOctane,italmostfeltlikewhenIhadthesethingsanddidn'thaveanycarbohydrates,IfeltlikeIhadhadsugar.
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Dave: Right.
Crosby: Itsnappedmeintothisplace,becauseIhadn'thadthosenutrientsbefore.Theywerebrandnewtomybodyandtomybrain.WhenIgotthosethings,Iwaslike"wow,thisisdifferent."Istartedtointroducealotofmyfriendstoitandtheywereinthatsamekindofplacewheretheyweretryingtokick-...Everybodywasintothis.Iremembertraining.Youtrained,andthenyouatecarbsandproteins.Whateveritwas,rice,sweetpotato,potato,breads,grains,andthatwashowIplayedcollegefootball.OnceIgotoutofthat,andIhadtogetmybodycompositiontoacertainplace,Istartedtobelike"okay,I'vegottocutthis,I'vegottocutthis,I'vegottocutthis."
Icutallofthesethingsoutofmydiet,andIwaswalkingaroundNewYorkCitylikeazombie.Ihadbarelyanybodyfatonme,andIlookedgreatinapicture,butIfeltlikeshit.ItgottoaplacewherewhenIcamebacktoLosAngeles,andIstartedtodiscoverthesethingsaboutthesaturatedfatsandtheMCTsandCLAsandallofthesethingsthatIwasn'tgettingbefore,itputmebackintoaplacewherelike"oh,Ihaveenergyagain.Oh,Icanmoveandactuallyhaveaconversationwithsomebodyinsteadofbeinglike'huh?'"That'showIfeltbefore.Icutoutallofthethingsthatactuallymademybraingo.BecauseIwantedtolookacertainway.
It'sjustliketheindustrycanjustreallyscrewyouup.WhenIgotbackintothisplacewhereIwasusingalotofyourproducts,itsavedme,itdefinitelysavedme,inalotofways.
Dave: It'sfunnybecausethelookthat'spopularrightnowformodeling,bothforwomenandmen,thatsuper-leanshreddedlook.Itlooksbad-ass,butman,itisnotthelookthatmakesyoulivethelongestormakesyouhaveenergy.It'sactuallythestarvinganimallook.
Crosby: Right.
Dave: Idon'tknowhowtoget,I'veneverbeenthatlean,butwhenIgetmuchbelow18%,mybrainfunctionisn'twhereitcanbe.ThestuffIlookatforlongevity,Iwanttobearound18%or20%,andrightnow,I'm20.1%onmylastdexoscan.I'mtotallyhappythere.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Doyouhaveatargetbodyfatforyourself?YouworkmoreasamodelthanIdo,youprobablyneedtobelowerthanthat.Howlowcanyougoandstillfeelgood?
Crosby: That'ssofunnyyousaidthat,becausethere'sanewcryoplaceonSunsetcalledNextHealththatinvitedmeovertogothroughtheroundsandgetsometestingdone.Meandafriendwentoverthereandwegotsomeofourtestingdone.Iwaslike"huh?"whenIgotmytestback.BecauseIfeel,becauseI'mgettingsomanyofthosefatsthroughouttheday,mybodyfatislow,it'sverylow.Idon'tfeellikeI'mstarving.I'mnotatthepointwhereIhavetosnackor[inaudible00:14:12].
Dave: Cool.
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Crosby: I'llhavemyBulletproof.Seriously,Dave,I'mupat4:30,5:00inthemorningmostdays.
Dave: Wow.
Crosby: I'mhavingmyBulletproofaround5:30,6:00atthelatest.I'mnothittingthegymuntil9:00andIstillhaven'teaten,I'lldotheBulletproof,Idoaprettygoodamountofbutterinthere.OnlyatablespoonoftheBrainOctane,Idoacoupletablespoonsofcollagentogivemesomeprotein.
Dave: Right.
Crosby: Then,ifI'mworkingwithChineseHerbsatthetime,I'llthrowacoupleofthoseinthere.Then,beforeIgottothegymaround9:00,Icreatethiscocktailthat'slikepre-workoutcocktailthat'sgotlikechlorophyllandBCAAs.Juststufftokindofstabilizeandgetmethroughaworkout.Carnatine,nothingthat'scalorie-densethough.There'sbarely,still,nocalories.I'lllastuntilevenafterthatworkout.I'llhaveapost-workoutdrinkthat'sjustgotsomeproteininitbeforeIgoeatsomefood.MaybesomeBCAs,proteinandsomeglutamine,andthenI'llgoeatamealandit's12:30,1:00.
Then,Iwon'teatdinneruntil6:00,7:00.
Dave: Youfeelgoodallthetime?
Crosby: IfeelgoodallthetimeandI'vegotthistestingbackandIwaslike-...I'mlisteningtoyougoing"18,"andI'mlike"oh,jeez,Ifeel."It'scrazy.
Dave: Whereareyou?
Crosby: Onhere,I'llshowyouthesheetinasecond.Onhereitsayswhattogaininbodyfatmass,orinleanbodymass,muscle,andittellsmethatIhavezeroandzero.It'sazeroandzero,butmybodyfatmassis10poundsofmy190poundframe.
Dave: Noway.
Crosby: 5.3%bodyfat,andit'sonly-...Idon'tknow-
Dave: Isthatadexoscanorsomethingelselikecalipers?
Crosby: No,IstoodonthisthingsandIhadallofthese-
Dave: Oh,it'sanimpedance.There'sahighvariancethere.Ididaveryhigh-end,clinical-gradeimpedancethatsaidIwas15%bodyfatandmydexoscansaidIwas20.1%,andthedexo's]-
Crosby: Youfeelalittlebitbetter.
Dave: Isuspected,probably-
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Crosby: You'reprobablymorelikeeighttoten.
Dave: Sevenoreightit'smorelike.Becauseifyou'reatfive,Idon'tthinkyouwouldprobablybefeelinggood.Mostpeoplecan'thangoutatthatrangeandfeelgood,unlessthere'ssomegenetictypeswhereyou'rejustalwayssuper-super-lean.That'sunusual.
Crosby: I'veneverbeenthislean.I'veneverbeenthisleanbefore,andcarriedthismuchmusclemass.It'snotsomethingthat'sgenetic,becauseitdoesn'truninthefamily.Iknowthatmydiet'sbeenreallydialedinlately,andit'snotthatIdoitonpurpose,it'sjustthatIamveryintuitiveandin-tunewithwhatmakesmefeelgood.
Dave: Sorry,areyoujuicing?
Crosby: I'llhavethegreenjuicehereandthere.
Dave: Isaidthattobeinflammatory.Notbecausegreenjuicedeservedthat.Yeah,I'massumingyoudosomegreenjuices,butnotthatmany,becausejuicingwouldn'tgiveyouthebodycompositionyouhavenow,it'snotpossible.
Crosby: No,I'mdefinitely…alotoflamb,alotofredmeats.
Dave: Nice.
Crosby: Lamb,alotofbutter.
Dave: Howoldareyou?
Crosby: Cruciferousvegetables.Alotofcruciferousvegetables.I'm31.
Dave: 31,okay,cool,you'reinyour30s.Theotherdefinitionofjuicing,obviously,isusingsteroids.
Crosby: Oh.
Dave: That'swhyitwasfunny.
Crosby: That'ssofunnybecauseisn'tthatgoodthatIdidn'tgothere?
Dave: Itwasawesomebecauseyoudidn'tthinkofit,becauseit'sliketotallycoolthatyou'reallaboutthegreenjuice.Iwashopingyouwoulddothat.Theotherwayyoucangetmoreofthebodymassiswithsteroids,andyou'retooyoung.Unlessyouhadaproblem.IwasontestosteronewhenIwas27becauseIhadhugeamountsofestrogenandalmostnotestosterone.Iwasmedicallyappropriate,bio-identical.I'vebeenreallyopenaboutthat.
I'monasmalldoseofbio-identicaltestosteronenow,butI'm43,andmyproduction.SometimesIcangetitupnaturallyaround700,butitdoesn'ttendtostaytherenomatterwhatIdo.Thenitdropstolike500.I'mlike"no,I'mfinetosupplementit."Youdon'tneedto,
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becauselookatyou,you'rechiseledrightnow,that'samazing.
Crosby: Well,it'sdefinitelydiet,it'sthewaythatIworkout.Idefinitelyhavetosaymydessertsareabigpartofit.
Dave: Ofcourse.
Crosby: BecauseI'mnoteatingthingsthatwouldthrowbodyfatonmelateatnight.It'sactually,alotofmystuffhasalotofBrainOctaneoil,andingeneral.ImakeachocolatesaucewithBrainOctane.I'llthrowthatontop.
Dave: Ilovethat.That'soneofmyfavoritethingsislikechocolatepowderandBrainOctane.Whatdoyouuseforcarbsinyours?
Crosby: Well,I'mputting-...There'snotonion,there'snotbasically,andbesides,thechocolatecacaobutter,justgrabsome,but.
Dave: Okay,cool.
Crosby: Yeah,Ihaveitonsomeofmywebsites,it'snotlikeasecretrecipe.I'llthrowthecacaopowderwithgoodcacaobutter,someLakanto,whichisthesweetenerIuse,ablendofmonkfruitanderythritol.Goodcacaobutter,BrainOctane,apinchofpinksalt,andI'llstirthatallupinacoffeecupandI'llthrowitinthefreezerifIwantittojustbechocolate,orI'llkeepitstirredandthrowthatontopofanicecream,andithardens.Youhavethishard-shellchocolatesauce.
Dave: Idon'tthinkwe'veevertalkedaboutthat,that'soneofmyfavoritethingstodo.Ilovethat,Iputthaton-...Igetsomeicecream,andyou'relike,it'sreallygood.
Crosby: Yeah,it'samazing.Then,ontopofallofthat,justtokindofsegueintowhatyouweretalkingaboutwiththetestosterone.Idoit,Ikindofhaveawayofdoingitnaturally.It'swhereIsupplementwithmycalcium-d-glucarate,andDIM,tokeepmyestrogenlevelsbalanced.Then,I'musingDragonHerbs,Tribulous.Ireally,reallylove.
Dave: Tribulousisgood,yeah.
Crosby: Yeah,cyclingthatalongwithhereandthere,I'llusethepassionflowerextract.ThenIhaveallofmyjingherbsfromHeShouWuandRehmanniaSixandthesekindofthings.AlongwithgoodliversupplementsandtheglutifionandIkindofkeepagreatbalanceofdetoxifyingthebadestrogensandcreatingadiscrepancybetweenmyestrogenandtestosteroneallthetimetowhereIfeelgreat,myimmunesystemisgreat,mystaminaandstrength,andmyliftsgoupeveryweek.
I'mliftingforpower,Idon'tdoalotofheavyrepstuff,becauseI'monsuchacleandiet,Idon'tneedtogotothegymandrunlikecrazy,oroverexertmyselfandcreateinflammation.I'mjustintheretocreatemoremusclemass.
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Dave: That'scool,soyourecoverreallyquickly.There'ssomesciencethathasn'tbeendone,asfarasIunderstand.We'velookedatwhetherpeoplecanpreservemusclemassandgrowmusclemassinketosis,andthathasabsolutelyshowntobepossibleanddoable.Ithinkthatstudywasveryreliablerecentlywhenitcameout.
Whatweknowisthatwhenyouliftheavy,youcreateshort-terminflammation,likethemitochondriamakealotofreactiveoxospeciesandthenyougetsomemuscletearing.Thenyougethealingandrecovery.Theproblemisthatketosisisanti-inflammatory.Maybeyoumightwanttobeoutofketosiswhenyoulift.Except,thestudiesshowthatyoucangrowmusclemass.There'ssomethinghappening,Ithink,becauseyouhavemoreenergybecauseyou'reinketosis,moreelectronsinthecells.
That'sprobablywhat'shappeningthere,becausewhatyou'redoing,alotoftraditionalexercisepeoplesay"well,that'snotpossible."You'relike"well,no,I'mnoteatingcarbsandI'mgainingmuscle."Haveyoutriedaddingcarbsbackin,becausesomeofthosepeoplegetlike10poundsofmusclewhentheyputcarbsbackin.Doyoueverdothat?
Crosby: Oh,man.IfIdoacoupleofcarbloads,ifIdomorethanonedayofcarb-loadingaweek,Icanincreasefivepoundslikethat.LikeifIthrowmoresweetpotatoesinmydiet.I'veneverbeenareallywhitericeguy,butthesweetpotatoiskindofmygo-to.IfIdothat,orifI'meatingmore,carrotsisanother,someoftherootvegetablesarereallywhatI'lldo.
IfI'mdoingmoreofthat,Icanpackonprettyquick.Ifeelbetterhere.Ifeellikesometimeswhenpeopleareincompleteketosisallthetime,theycangetthatno-glycogenlook.
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: It'slikethere'snotapumphappeningever.I'mstillmanagingtokeepapumpthroughoutmyworkouts,andIthinkit'salsobecauseI'mnotgoingcrazyanddoingheavyliftseveryday,obviously.
Dave: Thatwillbreakyou.
Crosby: Thatwillbreakyou.
Dave: Areyouinketosisallthetime?Yousaidonceaweekyou'regoingout.
Crosby: No,no,notallthetime.
Dave: Okay.
Crosby: Notallthetime.Iwouldsayit'slikethree,fourdaysaweek.
Dave: Yeah.You'redoingsomethingelsethat'sreallycoolthatIhaven'ttalkedaboutsomuch.Idon'tknowifyou'redoingitonpurpose,butglutamine,whichisanaminoacidthatcangiveyoualotofbrainenergy.Iusedtouseit.Ifeelwhenpeoplearereallytired,orwhenIwasreallytired,
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likeinbusinessschool,IwoulduseglutaminewhenIwastryingtostudy.ThisiswhenIfirststartedtakingmodafinil.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Ididn'thavemydietallthewaydialedin.Iwoulddothisanditwouldhelp,andithelpswithguthealing,butglutaminetakesyououtofketosis,veryreliably.It'santi-ketogenic.Essentially,you'reinketosis,youtakeglutamine,andyou'redoingexercise,butyou'renoteatingsugar.Yougooutofketosis.Ithinkitjustprobablymakesyoubetteratgoingbackintoketosis,becausewhatelsedoesyourbodygetinto?Idon'tevenknow.
Crosby: Whydoesittakeyouout?Ineverknewthatittookyououtofketosis,whyisthat?
Dave: It'soneofthosestudiesoutthere.IknowIreadalloftheweirdstudies.Idon'tknowthemechanism,actually.I'mjustsearchingmylittlementaldatabasethere.Couldn'ttellyouwhy,butIcantellyouthatinstudies,yougivesomeoneafewgramsofglutamine,theirketonelevelsdropverydramatically.
Crosby: Really?
Dave: It'sprobablybecausethere'stwothingsgoingonthere.Thisisassumingnutritionalketosis.Whenyou'reusingBrainOctane,it'snotnutritionalketosis,it'sexogenousketonesfromoutsidethebody.Thisisoilthatnaturallygoestoketones.Idon'tthinkit'sgoingtostopfat.Yourmitochondria,they'reenergy-hungry,andtheydecidewhetherthecellisgoingtobeinketosisornotbasedonavailablefuels.
Crosby: Gotit.
Dave: Theycantakeaminoacids,includingglutamineandconvertthemintoenergy.IthinkglutamineisabettersubstrateformakingATPthanforcingthebodytogointonutritionalketosis.
Crosby: Okay.
Dave: Ifyouhaveaglutaminepresent,andyou'reusingBrainOctane,yourgettingexogenousketones,likeyouwouldgetfromaketonesaltorsomething,butwithoutalltheacetoneandalloftheotherthingsthatcomeintheketo-salts.That'smyguess.You'regettingcoolresultsbecauseyou'reextremelyleanandyou'remuscular,andthenyoucanputonmusclemasswithouteventhinkingaboutit.
It'skindofcool.You'vegotsomethinggoingon.
Crosby: Something'shappening.I'lluseaboutfivetoeightgramspost-workoutandthesamebeforebed.Iwonderhowthat'schangingthechemistrythroughouttheday,orifIslipbackintoitbeforedinner,orIdon'tknow.
Dave: Yeah,andifyou'reusingBrainOctanethroughoutthedaylikeIdo,there'salwaysabackground
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levelofketonespresent,morethanwouldnaturallybethere,andthatchangeseverythingbiologically.It'scool.
Therearesomeconcernsthatglutamineisovertime,higherdosesofglutamineareassociatedwithincreasedriskofcancer.Idon'tknowthatyouwanttodoiteveryday.Iwouldprobablycycleit.Doyourglutaminesometimes.
Crosby: Itincreasestheglutamatelevels?
Dave: Idon'tthinkit'sbecauseofglutamate.Idon'tknowthemechanismofactionthere.Idon'tbelieveglutamineusuallyincreasesglutamate.There'soneresearcherwhoswearsupanddown.IseeautistickidstakeL-glutamineandItendedthatway.IusedtohavetheAsperger'sfeatureset.Glutaminewasahealingthingforme,notadamagingthing.Ijustdon'tseetheMSGreactioneverinhumanbeingsfromglutaminethattheygetfromtakingglutamicacidorglutamicacidwithsodiumormonosodiumglutamate.
Crosby: Well,maybeit'sthewholeideabehindit,thefactthatglutaminemakesyouextremelyanabolic.
Dave: Ithinkit'shelping,yeah.
Crosby: It'stheanabolism,right?
Dave: Yeah,Ithinkyoushouldkeepdoingit,butifyoutookacoupleofdaysaweekoffandjustmeasuredwhatchanged,maybeyou'llfindsomethingmore.You'rebio-actingandyou'rekickingsomeass,andyougettoeatdessertallthetime.Whichissomethingpeopledon'tunderstand.Thecreamygoodnessofbutterandthewholepaleocrowdislike"oh,cavemendidn'thavesugaralcohols."I'mlike"yeah,Iknow,butcavemendidn'tknowaboutcheesecake,ortheywouldhavelike,killedeachotheroverit."
Crosby: Ofcourse.
Dave: Youcanusetheappropriatesweetenersthatarenotartificialsweeteners,becausethey'llscrewyouup.Thelow-carb,high-fat,IeatNutri-sweetallthetimebecauseithasnosugar,thereforeit'sgoodforme,thatdoesn'tworkandyou'lllosehalfofyour200poundsoffat.Inmycase,Ilost50poundsthatway,andtheotherhalfwillneverleaveyouandyou'llbetiredallthetime.
Thatdoesn'twork,andyoucouldgothezerosugar,zerosweetkindofpaleotemplate,andthatjustsucks.Because,let'sfaceit,cookiesaregood,right?
Crosby: Sogood.Eatcookiesandicecream,andchocolate.
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: It'spartofus,youknow?
Dave: It'sasocialthingandit'sjustdelicious,right?ThenyoucouldgodowntheBulletproofpath
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wherelike"youknowwhat,cavemendidn'thavemassspectrometersandfermentationlabsandallofthisstuff,butwedo,solet'suseit,andlet'susesugaralcoholsintelligently,andlet'susesteviaandthingslikethat."Then,allofthesudden,thepaletteforcreatingadessertorarecipe,it'sadifferentperspective,adifferentphilosophyandyougetit.
Youdothesecrazythings.Tellmewhatyouputinyourfavoritecookie?Whatarethesetofingredientsyouworkwiththere?
Crosby: Ijustputacookieoutonmywebsite.ThewebsiteisTailordLife.com,bytheway.Ijustputacookieout,agingersnapcookiethat'samazing.It'sreallycoolbecauseI'musingtigernutflour.I'musingaresistantstarch,alongwiththeLakanto,which,IthinkthatI'vesaidbefore,themonkfruitanderythritolblend,that'sineverydessert.I'musingthatasmymainsweetener.Ireallylikethat.
IthinkIlikethatalotmorethanxylitol,becauseIhavesensitivestomachandIfeellikethatonejusthasbeenbetterformethanthat.Then,I'musing,alotofthetimeinthedesserts,especiallymystaple,originalcookiethatI'vebeenmaking,IusedtheBulletproofcollagen,soit'sgotproteininit.Already,whatisit,seventimespre-digested?
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: It'sgreatforheat-sensitiveprotein,thenI'mjustthrowingallofthegreatfats.EverythingfrompasturedeggstotheMCTsandthenewgrass-fedgheethatyougot,Dave,I'vebeenusingalotofthat,it'sdelicious.
Dave: It'skindofacaramel-yflavor,right?
Crosby: It'sgotthatnice,carameltouch,it'sperfectforbaking.Youguysjustsentmeabunchofit,andIhadbeenusingadifferentgheethatwasreallygood,andItastedandIwaslike"oh,thisisit."
Dave: We'redoingitoveranopenflame,liketraditionalAyurvedictechniques,becausethatstuffmatters.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: I'mreallyexcitedaboutthatproduct.Getting100%grass-fedbuttertomakeit,insteadof90%grass-fedbutter,itwasanotherachievement.Becausethere'sashortage.BulletproofCoffeemadeashortage,globally,ofgrass-fedbutter.
Crosby: Yeah.I'mgrabbingathingofKerrygold,Idon'tevenknowhowmanytimesaweek.Yeah,there'salotofthosepeopleoutthere,too.
Dave: Yeah,Iliveinthecountry,I'minCanada.WhenI'muphere,there'sa300%tariffonbutter.AllyoucangetisCanadianbutter,whichisprettymuch,alwaysgrainandcornfed,anditdoesn'ttastegood.PeopleimporttheirpersonalstashofKerrygold.There'sanationaloutcryovertheshortageofgrass-fedbutterhere,it'skindoffunny.
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Crosby: Itjusttastessomuchbetter.Yeah,intermsofgettingbacktothecookies.Thereisagingersnap
recipeonthere,andthenI'llthrowanywherefromaprobiotictypecreamcheesefrosting,whichisadairysourcetothepeoplethathavedairysensitivity,I'mmakingapure,full-fatcoconutmilk,kindoficing.Thatoneactuallyhasthevanillabeaninit,too.
I'mincorporatingalotoftheBulletproofproducts.
Dave: Thanks,man.
Crosby: Yeah,ofcourse,anditmakesadifference.I'veusedalotofotherdifferentsourcesofcacaossandvanillabeans,andInoticeadifference.YoucanjustnoticethedifferenceinflavorandthewaythatIfeel,anditmakesahugedifferencewhenyou'resourcingstuffthatwe'retalkingaboutwithtoxicloadandallofthat.
Dave: Peopledon'toftenknow,becauseIprobablydon'ttalkaboutitenough,buttheotherproductsliketheBulletproofvanillabeans,that'sa20-dayprocessthatbreaksdownmoldtoxinsinthevanilla.It'sadriedbeaninatropicalenvironment.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Youcanseemoldgrowingonvanillapods,ifyoulookatthem.Thenthesamethingwiththechocolate.It'slab-testedtobereallylowandit'sprocessedinafacilityawayfromotherchocolate.Youknowwhat,youcan'tseethat,butforme,Ifeelit,andthemechanismofactionthereisthatthetoxinthatformsincoffeeandchocolateandvanilla,oneofthemanyway,itinhibitsmitochondrialfunction.
You'reusedtofeelinggood,you'regivenalloftheseextraelectronsfromtheBrainOctaneandthehighfatintoyourbrainwhereyouhavethemostmitochondrialdensity.You'relike"allright,I'mcruising."Thenyoutakesomethingthatslowstheenginedown.Thenyoufeelitfirstinyourbrain,you'relike"ah."Thenyouwantsugar.Itaffectsmesoprofoundly.ImadethisstuffbecauseIgottiredoffeelingcrappyallthetime.
Crosby: Yeah,it'sabadsnowballeffect,youwantthatgoodsnowball,notthatbadone.
Dave: Totally.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: I'vegotanotherquestionforyou.Mostofyourclientsarewomen,right?
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Numberone,everyguylisteningislike"howdoyoudothat?"
Crosby: What?
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Dave: I'mjustkidding.Whatdoyoufindthat'sdifferentwithwomenandmenwhenthey'reonhigh-
fatdietslikethis?Isitthattheywantcookiesevenmorethanmen?Justkidding.Thereareverymeaningfulhigh-fatdifferencebetweenmenandwomen,andbecauseyou'reafitnesstrainer,whatdoyousee?Whatchangesdoyoumakeforwomen?
Crosby: It'sfunny,butthat'skindofthefirstthing.Especiallyiftheyheardaboutmefromafriends.ThefirstthingeverybodychecksistheirInstagram.TheygototheInstagram,andthey'relike"whatthehell,thisguymakesallthesedesserts,Ithoughthewasanutritionist?"It'sfunnybecausethathooksthemin.They'relike"whoa,IthinkIcanhaveallofthesethingsthatIalreadyhavethatIfeellikecrapon,inagoodway."Theykindofcomeintoitgoing"oh,well,I'llbeabletogetcookiesandmakemyownrecipesandbeabletostilleatsweets."Alotofthemarelike"canIjustliveonacookiediet?"I'mlike"no,that'snotgoingtowork,butyoucanhavethem,youcanhaveyourdesserts,I'mgoingtoshowyouhowtodothis."
Dave: Youswitchthemfromadeprivationmindsetto"youcanhavethingsthatwillsatisfyyou,butyouhavetodoitright?
Crosby: Exactly.
Dave: Okay.
Crosby: Thatishugeforwomenbecauseit'ssuchamentalgame,too.Iworkwithalotofgirlsintheindustrythatareeithermodelsoractresses,andthey'reconstantly-...Theirvesselistheirwork,sothey'reconstantlylookinginthemirrorandgoing"oh,myfaceisfat,"orlike,"oh,I'mgainingweighthere,"or"myagentsaidIshouldcutbackonthis."Youknow,theygettheselittlethingsthroughoutthedaythatarereallyaffectingtheirmentalstateandtheircortisollevels.
Thebigthing,Ithink,foralotofthem,iswhentheyaretoldthey'reallowedtohavesomeofthesefoodsthataredecadentthatstilltastereallygood,andtheydon'thavetofeelguiltyorgointothisplaceoffeelingstressedout,it'sadouble-win.Becausenowthey'rechilling,they'rejustfeelinggood,they'reeatingsomethingdelicious,andthey'regettingthenutritionalbenefitsfromit,asopposedto"IknowIshouldn'teatthischocolatebar,butI'mgoingtobecauseI'mcravingit."Thentheyfeellikecrapafterwards,thentheyeatmoreofit.It'sjustanever-endingspiral.
Thenextday,theywakeupwithinflamedhands,andthey'reabouttogotoajobandtheirfaceisallpuffy,asopposedtowhatI'msayingIcoulddoforthem.Thenallofthesudden,oncetheyhavethattrust,andreallyinthemselves,buttheytrustthewholeidea,theytrusttheplanandtheytrusttheideathattheycaneathigh-fat,oreatmorefat.Alotofthemaren'tgoingtogorightintoreallyhighfatsbecausethey'restillsuperscared.Theyintegrate,andtheykindofcutbackonalotoftheirhigh-sugarthings.
Alotofgirlscometomeandthey'relike"I'mveganorfruit-itarian."
Dave: Wow,howcanyounotbepuffyifyou'reafruit-itarian?
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Crosby: Someofthemit'sjustlikethey'venotbeendoingitforverylongandtheyjusthavegenetics.
Dave: Wow.
Crosby: Theirbodyjustoxidizes,itjustusesthesugarsrightaway.Foralotofthem,theyeventuallyget
intoaplacewheretheydon'treallyseeitontheoutside,theydon'tseethatthey'vegainedtoomuchweightorthattheylooktoobad,theymightbe20yearsold,youknow?Theydefinitelynoticeitintheirhormones.
Alotofthemarelike"IjustsawaChineseMedicalDoctorandshesaidIhavethehormonesofa45year-oldwoman."
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: That'swheretheyfreakout.They'relike"Idon'tgetmyperiod,andIdon'tthisandIdon'tthat."Ijustrecentlyworkedwithagirlthatwasbarelygettingherperiod,couldbarelyseeattimes.
Dave: Whoa.
Crosby: 20years,like19,20yearsold,andhormoneswerescrewedup,justcamefromallofthesedifferenttesting.Itwasbetweensomeofthesehigh-electrolyteandmineralfoodsandthefatsandcuttingsomeofthesugarsback.Thetwitchthatwasinhereyewasgoneinaweek.Shecouldseewithintwoweeks,andshewasreferringafriendwithinthethird.
Dave: Wow.
Crosby: Twoandahalfweeks.It'samazinghowimportantalotoftheseare,weforget.Especiallylivinginthisworldwhereit'sadifferentindustryandweforgethowimportantitistogetsomeofthesenutrients,andyoufinallygetthemandyou'relike"oh,wait,I'mjusthuman,heresurviving."
Dave: It'sfunnyyoumentionvisionthere.Thethreepartsofthebrain,orsorry,threepartsofthebodythathavethehighestdensityofmitochondriapercellistheeyes,that'sthebrainandtheheart.Thosearethethingsthatsuckthemostenergy,whichiswhyifyou'reeatingoneofthosediets,oryou'reeatingalotoftoxins.Liketherawvegandietactuallyhasalotofplant-basedtoxinsthatinhibityourmitochondrialfunctions.It'stheretokeepanimalsfromeatingthevegetablessothevegetablescanreproduce.
It'smothernature'swayoffightingback.Youputthorns,orspikes,orcompoundsthatarebadforanimalssothatway,allofyoudoesn'tgeteaten.Cookingdeactivatessomeofthose,right?WhenIwasarawvegan,Iwasrunningintothat.Whereyou'llmanifestthesethings,evenifyou'reyoung,youhavesomuchresilience.Youcanbearawveganwhenyou'reunder25.You'llpayforitwhenyou're35,butyoucandoitandyouprobablywon'tfeelitatfirst.
Lightsensitivity,eyetwitches,headaches.Okay,brain,eyesandjustlowenergy,that's
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cardiovascular,right?
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: InthenewbookI'vegotcomingout,roughly48%ofpeopleunder40havemitochondrialdysfunction.
Crosby: Wow.
Dave: Dietiswhatdoesit,andthestuffyou'reon,Crosby,thestuffthatyou'reeatingandthestuffthatI'meating,itactivelyencouragesmitochondrialgrowth.Itencouragesmoreenergy.147electronsversus36electronspermoleculeforBrainOctaneversussugar.You'relike"yeah,nowonderyoufeeldifferent,nowondersherecoveredinthreeweeks."It'sbiologyandit'ssocool.
Crosby: Itwasquick.Shefeltsogoodandshewasgettingstrongandstuff.Shewasalmostmadthatsomeofthesethingswerehappeningbecauseshewantedtobefrail.YouknowwhatI'msaying?
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: I'mlike"you'regoingtohavetopickone,you'regoingtopickthedyinglookorthehealthylook.Becausethisiswhatthisindustryisdoing."Alotofthemcomeoutofitandthey'refeelingamazingandtheycreateabalance,andtheygettoapointwheretheybecomemoreintuitivethemselvesandtheyknowwhatthingstoeat,butalsohowtostilllookthatcertainwaytheyneedtolook.Theynavigatebetter.
Ithinkthatthat'sthebiggestthingthatItrytogetalotofthesekindofclientsintoaplaceofbeingabletonavigateforthemselvesandtailortheirownsituation.That'skindofallaboutmywebsiteandwhatItrytodoforclientsistoempowerthem.Getthemintoaplacewheretheygettherightinformation.Theycanhavetheirdayswherethey'regoingtogocrazyontheircarbsandstuff,becausethey'rehuman.Theyalsoknowthatthereisgoingtobeconsequencesandthattheyhavetogetbackintoplaceswheretheyfeelbetterwithcertainfoods.
Theydoit.Theystarttodoit,andthey'veseenmemonthslaterandthey'relike"sothankful,thankyouforhelpingme,blah,blah,blah."I'msogratefulwiththat.That'sthebigpartofthejobthatIlove.
Dave: It'skindofshockingwhensomeonewalksupandyouhaven'ttalkedtotheminawhileandthey'relike"mylifeisdifferentnow."You'redoingpeopleaservice,ifyouworkwithsomeonewhois19or20,thechangeintrajectoryissorapid,anditlastsforlife,right?
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Ifyoutalktosomeonewhois50,youcanstillmakethechangeandthey'llfeeldifferentintwodays,right?Becausethey'reprobablyinaweakerstate.Todigoutoftheholethatyou'reinlaterinlifeisalotmoreworkthanjustavoidingthewhole.Really,itstartsbeforebirthandit
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continuesfromthereonout.
Crosby: Yeah,yeah,it'sreallyintense.It'ssocool,likeyousaid.It'ssocooltoseethechange.
Dave: It'scoolstuff,man.I'mhappyyou'redoingit,andIthinkthereisashifthappening,too.It'sdriven,inpart,bysocialmedia,wherethereallygaunt,starvedlook,Iliketothinkit'sbecominglesspopular,versuslikethevibrantlook.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Youcandosomuchwithmakeuporwhatever,butthesuper-skinnyarmsandlegslook.Maybefashiondesignersarestillintothatstuff,butitalsocouldbebias.Ilookatcertainmagazines,butI'mjustseeinghealthierlookingpeopleinmagazinesnow,insteadofthinnerlookingpeople.Doyoufeelthesamechangehappening?
Crosby: Thebigthingisinthecommercialworld.Whenitcomestotheeditorialworldandthecommercialworldandmodeling,thecommercialworldwantshealthylook,theywantthathealthylook,theywantthatvibrant,healthylook.That'sgoingtosell,that'sgoingtomakemoney.It'sstillinthefashionworldbecauseyou'rebasicallyacoathangerwhenyouwalkdowntherunway.Thedesignersjustwantthinnergirlsandguysthattheclotheshangondifferently.
Ifyou'vegottheserobust,thickmusclemenwalkingdowntherunwayandthesetinylittlefitcuts,it'sgoingtolookfunny.That'sreally,theonlythingthatfashion-wise,it'sgoingtobehardtoshakethat.Whenyougetintosomeofthesebig-...Allofthefragrancecampaigns,now,allofthebigcommercials,allofthebigclothinglinesfromBananaRepublictoGAP,toGuess,allofthesecompaniesareusing,likeyousaid,thesevibrant,healthy,beautifulhumans.
It'sreally,reallycooltosee,becauselikeyousaidthegauntlookissoout.Tome,it'ssuper-out,andIdon'tthinkitmakesmoneyanymoreeither.Peoplewanttoseesomebodythat'svibrant,theyallwanttolooklikethatwhentheybuytheclothes.It'sdifferent.
Dave: OneofthehopesIhaveisafriendofmine,MichellePromaulayko,whowasachiefeditorofYahooHealth.
Crosby: Ididaninterviewwithheratthelastconference.
Dave: Exactly,she'ssuchacoolperson,butshegetsallthisandshejustwentback.She'snowchiefeditoratCosmoandSeventeen.
Crosby: Okay.
Dave: She'sinapositiontototallyhelp.Itdoesn'trequirebigchange,it'sjustalittletweak,sothatwecanmakethatthemorenormalthing.Ihatetosayit,butasguys,wekindoflikeourwomentolookhealthy.Women,sometimes,wanttolookthinnerthanguyswantedtolook.
Crosby: Yeah,it'sabigproblem.
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Dave: I'mhopingMichellewilldogoodthere,becausethat'sjusthowsheis.Ihadachancetohang
outwithherandshe'sgotagoodspiritthereandwantstohelp.Ithinkshe'sinagreatpositiontohelpdrivethatchange.
Crosby: Yeah.That'ssocool,that'sgreat.Seventeen,peoplereadingthataregoingtostartyoungandstarttofigureoutsomeofthesehealthierideasratherthanflippingopenamagazineandseeingsomebodythatlookslikethey'restarvingthemselves,sothat'sawesome.
Dave: Yeah.
Crosby: That'skindofwhatI'm-...It'sweirdbecauseI'vebeenattractingalotofthat,sincemywebsite'sbeenup.EveryonefromallofthefemalepublicationsarehittingmeupfromBirdy.comtoMyDomaintoGaloreMagazineandWellandGood.Theseareallbiggermagazinesthatareheavilypopulatedwiththeconsumerbeingwomen,andI'llthrowarecipeforabeautysmoothie,butthisbeautysmoothiehasgotnutrient-densefoodinit.It'sgotcollagen,proteinandbonebrothproteinandgoodfatsfromBrainOctaneoilandtigernutsandstufflikethat.
It'sstillgettingthemtheeffectthattheywant.
Dave: Gotit.
Crosby: Morecalories,morenutrients,morefoodforthebrain.Thenthey'regettingthebodycompositiontheywant.It'sjustawin/win,forsure.
Dave: Beautiful.Well,Crosby,we'rerunninguponrunningoutoftime,IwanttoaskaBulletproofquestionofyou.
Crosby: Okay.
Dave: ThatIalwaysask.Ifsomeonecomestoyoutomorrowandtheysay"look,Crosby,I'mgoingtokickasseverythingIdo,notjustmodelingornotjustlookinggood,buteverythinginlife,whatarethethreemostimportantrecommendationsyouhave?"Whatwouldyoutellthem?
Crosby: Wow,thethreemostimportantrecommendations?
Dave: Justtokickmoreassateverything.
Crosby: Numberone,makesureyougetsomedeep,restfulsleep.Ithinksleepissoimportant.Forme,Iactuallydon'tneedalotofsleep,butIneedthatreally,reallygoodREMsleep.Itrytogettobedearly,atleastfivenightsoutoftheweek.Youcanhaveacouplenightswhereyouhaveyourfunandsocialize,butI'minbed,usually,by9:30,10:00andupat5:00.I'mgettinglikesevenhoursofsleep.
IthinkthedeepREMsleephoursare10:00to2:00AM,somethinglikethat?Istherestudieslikethat?
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Dave: Thereare,infactthereisanewquiz,youshouldtakethis.Mybuddy,MichaelBruce,hewrote
"ThePowerofWhen"goto"ThePowerofWhenQuiz.com."It'slikeafive-minutequizorsomething,butit'soneofthecoolestthingsI'vereadallyear,because15%ofpeople,they'relikeyou,andthey'reearlyrisers,andhecallsthemlions.Yourcircadianrhythm,yourjobinthetribewastowakeupearlyandtakethemorningshifttofightofflionsanddinosaursandcrap.
Crosby: Okay.
Dave: [inaudible00:46:25]
Crosby: Ifeellikethat.
Dave: Yeah,right,andso,you'relikethemorningpersonandyou'regoingtohaveadifferentREMsleeppatternandadifferentcortisolsurgeduringthedayandeverything.Then,55%ofpeople,hecallsthembears,they'renormal,they'recircadian.Notupatdawn,upalittlebitafterdawn,andthenthey'dgotobedattheaveragebedtime.Then15%ofpeoplearelikeme,hecallsuswolvesandwetakethenightshift.I'mperfectlyfunctionaluntil2:00AM,mybedtimeis,onaverage,2:01AMforthepastfiveyearsI'vetrackedit.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Itvaries,plusorminus,butthat'stheaverage,andIalways-...That'smynaturalsleepytime.Ifyouletme,I'llsleepfrom2:00tilprobably9:00,andforme,IgetthemostREMsleepthatway.
Crosby: Oh,cool.
Dave: Neitheroneisbetterthantheother,andthentheother15%ofpeoplearelikedolphins,becausetheirbrainneveractuallygoestosleep,becauseallofthosearemypatients.He'sbeenonDr.Ozabunch,butyouwouldenjoythis.
Crosby: I'mgoingtocheckthatout.
Dave: Becausewhenyouworkwithyourclientsit'ssuperhelpful,becauseit'snotthatgoingtobedearlyisgood,orgoingtobedlateisgood.It'slikeithastomatchyourchronotype.IthinkMichaelhasbrokenthroughonabiohackingthingthatIdidn'tknow.Idon'tfeelguiltyaboutbeingalateowl,anightowl.
Crosby: Yeah,wow,okay,cool,that'sactuallyawesome.I'mgoingtohaveto.Ihavesomeclientsthatarelike"Idon'tgettobeduntil4:00inthemorning."
Dave: Yeah,4:00isprettylate.Ithinkhisbookiseitheroutnoworabouttocomeout.It'scalled"thePowerofWhen,"butthequizisalreadyup.It'stothepointeveryoneatBulletproof,allofmyemployees,I'veaskedthemtotakeitandputitontheiremployeebaseballcard.Whywouldyouschedulean8:00AMmeetingwithyourbosstoaskforaraisewhenyourbossisawolfwhowantstostayuplate.He'sgoingtobeazombieat8:00,don'tdothat,right?
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Crosby: Yeah.Numbertwo,eatlesssugar.
Dave: Thereyougo.
Crosby: Kindofseguesintomydesserts.
Dave: Totally.
Crosby: CheckouteverythingthatIhavegoingonintermsofTailordlife.comandEatDessert,andBurn
Fat.
Dave: T-A-I-L-O-R-E-Dlife.com?
Crosby: NoE,T-A-I-L-O-R-D.
Dave: Okay.
Crosby: It'smylastnameTailorwithaD,life.
Dave: Okay.
Crosby: It'stailoringyourlifestyle.
Dave: Cool.
Crosby: That'skindofmyideabehind[inaudible00:48:40]your[inaudible00:48:41].Checkout,therearesomerecipesonthere.I'mgoingtobecomingoutwithsomeproductsheresoon.I'mworkinghand-in-handwithLakanto,they'rekindofgroomingmeintothespokespersonoftocompany,soI'llbeworkingwiththemalot.
Dave: Cool.
Crosby: That'sasugarsubstitutethat'sthemonkfruitanderythritolthatIthinkcanbereally,reallyamazingforpeoplethatwon'tkickthatsweettooth.Then,ontopofthat,besidesbeingabletocurbbyusingdifferentsweeteners,you'realsogoingtobeabletocurbyoursweettoothandbeabletohavelesssugarthrougheatingmorefat.Eatthatgoodfat,getyourgheein,getyourMCTsandyourXCTsandyourBrainOctanesandobviously,someofthesemonounsaturatedfats.Istillliketokeepsomeoliveoilandthingslikethatinmydiet.
Dave: Oh,yeah,Idotoo.
Crosby: Then,last,butnotleast,somethingI'vebeentryingtolivebymoresolatelythanIhave,inthelastyearit'sreallytransformedme.That'sjusttheideabehindlettinggomore.Beinglessresistanttochange.BeenlisteningtoalotofAlanWatts,andhesays,oneofhisquotesis"ifyouwantlife,don'tclingtoit."
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Dave: Youknow,Iwasgoingtoaskyouaboutthat.YouarewaymorechillnowthanI'veeverseen
you.It'sanenergyshiftinyou.Iwaskindofwondering,becausenormallyyouwerealittlebitanxious.Notinanegative,nasty,likeI'mbeingcritical.
Crosby: Yeah,sure.
Dave: Youcarriedalittlebitofananxietyvibeandyou'resupermellow,now.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Whateveryou'redoing,youshouldkeepitup,it'sworking.
Crosby: Thankyou,yeah.I'mjustdoingalotofinternalsearchingandworkingonmyselfandthenjustalso,inthat,ofworkingonmyself,notbeinginmyheadalot,theideasofperfectionandhavingtostriveforsomethingandcreatingmyselftobethiscertainthingallthetime,moresojustlettinggotolife.
ThethingsthatI'vebeenmanifestinglately,andthepeoplethatI'vebeenbringingintomylifeandthepeopleI'vebeenlettinggoinmylife,it'sjustbeensuchatransformationformeandthingsjusthappen.Synchronicityishappening.
Dave: Youlooklikeyou'recarryinglessweightthanyoudidbefore.Notphysicalweight,justlikementalweight,soit'scool.
Crosby: Yeah,definitelyletgoofsomeweight,soit'sgood.
Dave: Well,we'llhavetogetyouinto40YearsofZen,maybe,oneofthesedays.
Crosby: Let'sdoit.
Dave: [inaudible00:51:11]afeedbackthing,coolman.
Crosby: Let'sdoit.
Dave: Well,thankssomuchforbeingonBulletproofRadiotoday,andyourwebsiteisT-A-I-L-O-R-D?
Crosby: L-I-F-E.com.Tailordlife.com.InstagramisCrosbyTailor,SnapchatisCrosbyTailor.Thosearekindofmymainchannels,sofindmeonthere.
Dave: Instagram,Snapchatandyourwebsite,TailorfedorTailord-
Crosby: Tailordlife.
Dave: Tailordlife,sorry,Iwaslike"it'snotTailorfed,it'sTailordlife.com."
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Crosby: They'lllearnhowtogetTailordfed,yeah.
Dave: Therewego,cool.NowIgetit,allright.
Crosby: Yeah.
Dave: Foreveryonelistening,ifyouenjoyedtoday'spodcast,youlearnedsomethingaboutcookies,youknowwheretogotogetsomecoolrecipes.I'dloveitifyoutook30secondstogooniTunesandratetheshow.Justgiveusfivestarsifyouthinkthatwe'veearnedit.Thatreallyhelpsotherpeoplefindtheshow,andit'sjustawayofsayingthanks.
Youwouldn'tknowthis,buttocreatethisepisode,thereisactuallyone,two,three,four,there'sfivecamerasinvolved,there'stwomicrophones,weFed-Ex-edacameratoCrosby,andwe'rebackingupaudio,we'redoingaudioremastering.We'reeditingthething,we'retranscribingthething,andit'sactuallyabigproduction.We'redoingitsoyouhavereallygoodaudioqualityifyou'redrivingorlisteninginyourcubicle.
Youhavegoodaudioifyou'relisteningonYouTube.YougotoBulletproof.comorBulletproofexec.com/youtubetogetalinktothething,andfollowusonYouTubetogetallofthese.Thepointhereisalotoflovegoesintothis,Ididprepfortheshow,CrosbyandItalked,andsowecare,andweputalotofloveandenergyintothis.Itdoesn'ttakelongforyoutosaythanksandjustshowsomegratitudewitharatingoniTunes.Ithelpsotherpeoplefindthecontent,that'swhyI'maskingyoutodoit.
Idon'tneeditformyego,Crosbydoesn'tneeditforhisego.Helppeopleknowthisisgood,that'sthewaysocialworks.Iappreciatethatyoutookyourtimetolistentothisepisodetoday.Crosby,thankyouforbeingheretodayaswell,it'salotoffun.
Crosby: Thanks,Dave,Ilookforwardtobeingback.IthinkthenexttimeIcomebackitwillbethelaunchofmycookiemix,mybakingmix.We'llhavetotalkaboutthatnext.
Dave: Excitingtimes.
Crosby: I'mexcited,yeah.