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P5NOV2019byHelpfulKiwi

Onceagain,observationsandpersonalopinionbelow,takewhatisuseful....

NBThereisarequirementtocompletetheonlinelearningmoduleonEGPWS/CFITinLearnersWorldbeforethesessionasthereisnobriefbeforeenteringthesim.

SimBriefingTheusualcollectionofLVOandgeneralicingquestionsandinadditiontothisFleetspecificincluded;

• WhenaretheTATprobesheated? • IfWAIselectedONonground,whenwilltheyoperateairborne?,Whatabout

wheninAUTO?PrimaryuseofWAIetc. • WhatisthePMmonitoringduringtakeoffrollinLVO

Loc position and speeds ….. FCOM3 SUPPS

• When must the airport advise LVO conditions are in effect

Whenever vis <550m

IntheSim;CaptainsProfile,A/CdispatchedwithTACINOPsothatisshowingoneicaswhenenteringsim,itwillreappearasanactionableCKLafterenginestartsoweactioneditbeforetheBeforeTaxiCklwhichmeansthenoteswillappearontheCKLpage,ifyouoverrideit,theywillnot.Alsothenewplasticizedcardwithmetriclevelsisavailableandrecommendedforuseforthisprofile.(eventhougheverythingyouneedisonthesidandappcharts.)

FMCsetupforZSPD17LHSN13Xdeparture,MCPsetto3000.(2960ft/900m)Vis250mallzonessoaDepALTNrequired,andwebriefedthatifcarryinganyproblemintotheairthenwewouldcheckforimprovementinconditionsbeforeheadingtothenominatedDEPALTN

(ZSSSissuitable).

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WefollowedthePROFILEAprepcardinthebriefingpackage.

Nostopbaronlineup,ILSforRWYident,daytimesocanuseLandingLightsifdesiredbutitisnotrecommended,tempplus5sonorun-uprequiredbeforeT/O.

EngineFailatV2,Ifindthisonealittletrickyasviscuesjustdisappearastheenginefails,inthebriefingroomthecheckerwenttogreatlengthstoletusknowhowdifficultthe300simmakesthisparticularexercisesohisadvicewastoaimforexactly8–8.5degreesafterthefailureandtheyawhasbeenarrested.(forme,yawisarrestedbystoppingthetrkbugmoving–standonthebug,thenIgiveitasqueezemoreandslightbanktotheliveenginetoinitiatearegaintowarddeptrk.)Itappearsthatinthe-300sim,ifthebottomoftheA/Csymbolboxtouchesthe7.5’line,theA/Cwilllevelandpotentiallysinkifappropriatetrimisnotapplied,resultinginthe“don’tsink”auralwhichrequiresarepeat.Andifthetopoftheboxtouchesthe10’line,thespeedWILLreducebelowV2whichisalsoarepeatsomyrecommendationifyouaredoingtheV2cutforthefirsttimeinthe300simistofollowhisadviceJ.ExtremelyimportantfortheFOintheirprofileasthedeparturegoesstraightintoanimmediateturnsothatLiftvectorjustdisappears!

Refermypreviousnotesregardingthrustincrease,thereisalwaystheoptionofincreasingthethrustANYTIMEairborneandaboveV2ifadditionalperformanceisrequired,howeveroneschoolofthoughtisthisshouldnotbeconsidereduntilyouhaveconfirmedthereisnoseveredamageasyoumaybeprovidingadamagedenginewithanadditionalsourceofignitionandorcausingmorevibration/separationbydemandingmorefromtheengine.

AstheA/Cwasclimbing,albeitslowly,Iwaiteduntil400ftonthisoccasion(focusingonthepitchattJ)thenaftercallingthemodesandconfirmingnoseveredamage,pushedtheTLsup,pressedTOGAandaskedforLNAV/VNAVtobereselected.

• PANcalla.s.a.p.astheenginefailedabovetherunway.NBunableALTconstratPD076

• OncecleanandbeforecallingfortherelevantEngFailCKLweconfirmedspeedwindowopen-thenselectFMCENGOUT.(ThisisarecentchangeintheQRHCKLInstructions.)PersonalopinionistohavespeedwindowopenasifyouarebelowMSAandselectENGOUTitispossibletheEOCLBspeedisgreaterthancleanspeed,andweneedtoflycleantoMSA.

• EngFailCKL,ReviewEICAS, • PMlightsasrequired,failedEAIOFF,liveAUTOthenATOCKL–remember

todeletetheILSifusedforlineup. • TheP5briefcontainsaholdatCGThoweveraswewerenowonvectors

essentiallyintoalefthanddownwind,weelectedtogointotheholdatHSH(foundontheAND12YSTARchart40-2),atthispointtogatherinfoandassessthebestcourseofaction,sorequestedsame.Cleanspeedis226and

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Maxspeeddepictedinholdis230kts.Onceintheholdweupdatedthewxandwith300m150m100mreportedweelectedtoprepfortheCat2ILS*specialapprovalto300monto17Lwithnoreversionavailable.NBTACinopforentiresessionsobeproactivewithtrim.HSHdidnotautotunesomakesureyouhavesomeformofrawdatamonitoring.Underradarcontrolsononeedtocallenteringthehold.Intheholdwesetupfortheapproach,initiatedthealertphaseandgavethe‘star’brieftotheISMfollowedbyaPAtopax.IOCalertmessagesent.AndLDGPERFcalculationcompleted.

• NB: there is not a lot of information about the data provided on the OPT app in

the Non Normal situation, for example with a NN selection as in this case , ENG SHUTDOWN, the MAN/AUTO landing selection is removed . The fact they are there in the first place suggests the time from crossing threshold to touchdown differs and comparing the data with ACARS LDG results , I believe the OPT app provides manual landing figures in this example, so have added 600ft to the uncorrected result.

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Thewholeprocesstookalittletimebutwewereabletoexitholdmidwaythroughthefirstlap.ClearedtheILSZ17LviaPD025.NBwhenleavingtheholdtheIAFspeedis210kts,weelectedtocomplywiththisastheoutboundlegisrelativelyshortandthereisarestrictedlinetothenorthoftheapproach.

• DESCBRIEFincludedtheCAT2visrequirementsof“appenviroandthreshold”,(approx.5lightsat350msoapprox.4-5at300m?) MusthaveLAND2onanyPFD,TACinopsomakesuresuitableamountinbeforeA/Pstakeover.NBSpeedcontrolfromIAF,andto8nmfinal.

• DESCCKL • APPCKL

BaseturnfromPD025wegottheFuelImbalanceEICASandhadtimetoactionit.LeakruledoutbyuseoftheEFClogiccheck.ArmtheAPP,noneedtowaitforcorrectsensingnow.

180ktsmaxattheIFmaybeworthremovingasitwillreqF15,howeveronceagainwecompliedwiththiswithlastminuteselectionofflap,thenthereisa2nmlevelsegmentbeforeGPintercept.YouarePANsoanyreasonablerequestshouldbeapproved.

AT1000ftwesaw>LAND2<onthePFDs,noproblemcontinue.

*ItsanautoappsotheAutopilotswilllookaftertheruddertrimfrom1500ftuntilthefirstmodechangeintheMAP,NB:Makesuretheruddertrimisinareasonablepositionpriorto1500ftie3.5units,asIhaveseenpreviouslywhentherewasmorethen10unitsinat1500ft,whentheAPsrelinquishedcontroloftherudderintheMAPthesingleAPcouldn’tcopewiththeoriginaltrimsettinganddisconnected,whichcreatedsomeunnecessaryworkload.

Goaroundatminimaduenilsighting,(weheardtheauto50ftcallintheprocess)maxspeedis210ktsintheMAPturnwhichwemaintaineduntiltrackingtowardPDL.WhenthemodeschangedfromTOGAtoLNAVthereisanoticeablechangeintheyawsoreapplysufficientrudderandbackupwithtrim.

InourmanualPCs(theoddnumberprofiles),theAPisavailableafterinitiationoftheGA,wetookasmodescalledandgearup.TheWPTPDLisveryclosesowerequestedvectorsclearofterrainintothedownwindtore-evaluateoralternativelytoentertheholdwhilstclimbingtoMAPalt,vectorsdownwindgiven.

PersonallyIrun>NNC>EICASreview>beforetheATO’severytime.

GetWx–nowvis600mexpectvectorsdownwindRHILSZ17LviaPD035.

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FMCsetupDirecttoPD035.MentionedwewouldrebriefthepaxviaPAandnomorecommsrequired.LDGPERFassessmentverbalbrief“samesamewiththedifferenceof600ftlessrequirednow”soaslowtaxiatnominatedexitpoint.

(Autolandvsmanlanding).Briefbriefnotingonlydifferencesiemanapp,manthr,manlanding,confirmedtheILSautotuningagain,minimasettingBAROandmanualruddertrimforapproachandMAP,“speedonschedule“,Nowlookingforlightsassociatedwiththetouchdownendoftherunway,andappenvironment.

>Crewseated,>DescandLandingCKLscommenced

ILSflowntoCat1minimawithmanualthrustandmanualflightfromLOCintercept.(OnAPPwithF20 = 63%N1inthe-300)GAduenilsighting,rememberthereisquiteasignificantrudderinputrequiredasN1passes85%.

The300hasnoperformancesotheclimbingturnisverydrawnout.OncecleantheATOscompletedwewereadvisedtheILSnowU/Ssostateintentions,requestedwxcondxZSSSandplannedfortheVOR18LfromCGT.

Ø UpdateISMandPax

PMoptionforsetupeitherusingtheALTpage>divertnow-viaCGToverhead,oroverwritetheDESTonRTEpage,samesame.HoweverbecautiouswhenselectingtheVOR18LviaCGT,tocheckthelegspagebeforeexecutingasthereispotentialtodeletetheholdinthisscenarioifyouhaveoneplanned.AtsomepointbothPFandPMshouldindependentlycalculatetheLPAandcompare,wejustusedpre-preparedscreenshotswhichwasacceptable.

Afterlevelingat900m/3000werequestedfurtherclimbto1500m/4930’(therecommalt@IAFCGT)RememberthatforanyfurtherclimbOEIyouwillneedtoalsoselecttheCONthrustpb.Optiontoholdbutyouwillneedtogetaspecificclearancetoholdlowerthantheprescribed1800m/5910’here.Andmakesureyouaremonitoringrawdataeitherthroughautotuneormanualtuningifdesired,ifholding.Wehadtimetoselectandbrieftheapproach,NBthe205ktsIAFspeedwedidhaveremovedthistimeastheoutboundlegonthisapproachis8nm.

UponcheckingwhatVNAVmodewewerein,andbecausewehadpreviouslyusedFLCHtoclimbto1500m,theVNAVmodewasACTEOCRZwith3000ftshowing,soweupdatedthisalttoourcurrent4900bypressingtheMCPbutton..TherewasaNTCregardingthecautionsassociatedwithenteringaCRZALT=thenextwptaltrestrictionhowevermyunderstandingisallA/Chavenowbeenmodified,itappearsthoughthissimhasnotbecauseafterenteringthenewCRZALT,thelegspagerestrictionsof1810atCF18andFF18disappearedsowemanuallyre-enteredthem.

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DESCBRIEFincluded;AutoapptomanldgusingA/T,actionsatminima(noRWXXorvalidthresholdcrossingwpt)FDsoff,PMon.Monitorr.o.dcloselyinvisualsegment.Highappspeed@F20andcurrentweightsor.o.dwillbeslightlyhigherat800-900fpm.(slectFPVontohelp)StrictlynotrequiredbuttheoldschoolinmesayshaveatleastoneVORmanuallytunedjustincaseyouforgettocheck/monitorandtheydon’tautomaticallychangefromCGTtoSHA.(asitturnedout,theautotuningdidoccurafteroutboundfromCGT.)

CrossingCGTwerantheDescandAPPCKLsandthefuelwasnowbalancedsowecompletedtheFuelIMBCKL.

Topofdescentisapprox3nmoutboundCGTsoweconfiguredtoF1toachievethe205ktsfortheinitialbaseturninthedescent.SelectedVNAV(=VNAVPATH)andreopenedthespeedwindow,Set1800ft,thevertdevbarswereindicatingwewereapproachingt.o.d,howeveritdidn’tdescendaswepassedthatpoint.

SoweselectedDESCDIRECT>andcaughttheprofileeasily,thedownsideofDESCDIRthoughisitwipesoutthenextwptALT(CF18Linthiscase),soonceagainwere-enteredthisandreestablishedinPATH.Obviouslynotverywellhandledbyyourstrulyand/orsomesimissuesasthishappenedlastP5J

Withlittlefaithinthesystemonthisoccasion,havingleveledat1800’andsetMDA(+50),theinboundfromCFtoFF=3milesegment(whichislevelbythewayandrequiresquitesomeadditionalthrustandtrim,anoptionwouldbetochangetheCFto1810Awhichwillprobablyworkoutbetter.),

VNAVPATHchangedtoVNAVALTaswecrossedtheFFsoIwaitedforagoodcoupleofsecondsaftercrossingFFbutasexpectedPathneverengagedsohadtomanuallyinterveneagainbypressingtheMCPbutton.

ObviouslynotanidealsituationsoIbelieveourchoiceofusingDESCDIRECTwasthewrongone,andnexttimeIwouldre-enteraCRZALTbeforeselectingtheapproach(Icantrecallifwesaw“unableCRZALT”offthefirstreturn)CheckyouareinEOCRZbeforeCGT.TheothersideeffectofnotcheckingtheVNAVmodeearlieristhattheThrustlimitdoesnottransitiontoGAthrustandinthe300onanylevelsegmentintheapproachspeedcontrolmaybeanissueasthethrustisbeinglimitedtoCRZ,lessthan

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thatrequiredtomaintainthedesiredspeed(GA)ThiscanandshouldbemanualyselectedifdesiredfromtheTHRREFpage.

Visaround900ft,Irecommendmovingacrosstothelefttoalignwiththerunwayasearlyaspossibleasitissignificantlydisplacedfromyourpresenttrack,andyouwillneedtomaintainaround850fpm.

OptiontouseAPinTRKorHDGselectwithAPoutby200ftbutwechosetodisconnect,FDsoff(PMFDbackon)andmaneuvermanually.Windnotasadvertised,wasactuallythesamefromdeparturesoassistswiththerwypositioning.Itappearstobeagenericairportsovacatewillbetotheleft(whichwastheplannedpointdueDragonoperateoutofthisterminaleventhoughitisthesmallerofthetwoterminals.)That’sit!

EGPWSMODULE

Onlinelearningmoduleshouldbecompleted,additionalinfoinFCOM134.39.1and31.21.7(asatDecupdate).NBsomedifferencesbetweendiffmodels,“OBSTACLE“vs“TERRAIN“,ERPeaksfunctionvalidoutto320nmshowingHighest/Lowestterrain.

Thesessionisrunwithoutbriefingandinvolvestwoscenariosforeachpilot.Notreallytrainingsoassumeit’saproficiencyitemyouneedtodemonstratesatisfactorily.

Captfirst:Indescfrom5000to3000inVSwithMSA7000.A/Pin.Visualwiththeterrainahead,whenthepicturelooksuncomfortableisaboutwhenwegotthe“CautionTerrain“warning.RegardlessofwhattheQRHsays,Iwouldnotbecontinuingsoforus;

ALTHOLD/Assess/Nothappysoletsclimb,CheckTCAS,SetMCPaboveMSA,8000inourcase,>FLCHandpushtheTLsupastheyareslowtoreactinthismode>PMmonitorandcalloutanymissedactions,adviseATC,monitorterrainiecallRADALTchanges.

RESETforsameinitialposition,don’treactuntilhardwarning.

AsperQRHandcheckersadviceistoset25’,thenifradaltnotincreasing,continueuptoPLIsand/orstickshaker.

PM:DONOTcallouttheresultingspeedreducingduringthisprocedureasitcouldpromptthePFtoreactbyloweringthenoseinstinctively.

FOPROFILE/DIFFERENCES

NBshortsectorsoconsiderbriefARRalsobaseduponallengineswhichiswhatyouwoulddonormallyonsuchashortsector.

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Atholdenginesrunning,followBriefingcardflowtocovertheRWYT/ODATACHANGECKLandgetWXsforbothports.

ZSSS18RPK12Dasadvertised.Vis600m260/10(ZSPDsame)lineupfromH1

@V2enginefailureagain,losevisualsatthatmoment,refernotesfrompage1rehandling.Ifyoudecidetoincreasethethrust,(whichgiventhedeparturehasyouenteringanimmediateturn,isalmostarequirement),beverycarefulasonceyoupressTOGAthetrackchangestothetracktheA/Cisonattimeofpress,=wingslevel.LNAVwaspromptlyreselectedinourcasehowevertheA/Cdidnotcontinuebackintotheturnandinsteadflewwingslevel.TRKSELwasengagedandtheturncontinuedtowardPK,whenpointingthereLNAVwasreselectedsuccessfullyfollowingadirectto.

PMThereisanautochangetoDepfreqhere.

TheFMCroutetakesyoufromtheSIDstraighttoPD035fortheILSZ17LZSPD.sowerequestedaholdtopreparefortheenginopcondition,TOSASisagoodpointforthissowereclearedtoholdthereatcleanspeed(227cleanandmax215inhold)andclimbto1200m.As1200misthecruisealtthedescentphaseactivatednormallyandconstraintsinmagentawithTODpointshowingfortheILSZ17LVIATOSAS.(TOSASfoundontheVOR17Lchart)

NB if you don’t hold and instead get cleared direct to PD035 IAF,maxspeed210ktswilleitherneedflaporhavethislifted.ApproachingIAFinVNAVcansetFFalt900m/3000forGSintcpt.ApproachingG/SwegotFUELIMBALANCE,afterthequickEFCcheck,wecancelledtheckltobereviewedintheeventofaMAP.CheckersuggestedbettertoOVERRIDEitsoyouwillavoidtheCKLINCOMPLETENNCat1000ftfeaturedinthelastblockpointsoftware.(refertrainingnotesFAQsincomply365)

Remembertocontinuouslyadjustruddertrimwitheveryspeedchangeandtarget3.5unitsbefore1500ft.

AutoapproachandautoGAatminimaduenilsighting,(max210initialturn),

WhencleantheFuelIMBcklwasrun,rememberfollowinganotherquickEFCcheckyouhaveconfirmednoleak,sononeedtoreadalloftheinfoonpage2,discussandmoveontothereferenceitems.

UpdateWX,returndownwind righthandviaPD202inboundforamanuallyflownmanthr,ILSandGAwithTACinopstill.VisimprovesfollowingGAandyouareclearedtoclimb1500m/4930fortheVOR17LviaTODAS.

Reqcleanspeedforthehold,noneedtocallentering,ortotime.

GetintoVNAVacrossTODAS(holdcancelled),getthespeedbacktothe

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recommended205ktsastheturnstoinboundinvolvealotofregainingtrkevenatthisspeed,andinthiscase,set2900forFF2960,not3000.FCOM3statesthemetricvalueshouldberoundedupordowntothenearest100ft,howeveritalsoallowsfor“downtothenearest100ftinthedescent“whichisvaluablehere.

Weset3000,theA/CdescendedinPATHto3000thenwentintoVNAVALTacrosstheFFbecauseweneveractuallyreachedtheFFALTof2960!Hadweset2900usingtheapprovedmethod,itwouldhavecontinueddowntoMDAinPATHaftertheFFwithMDAinMCP.APandATavailable.

NBasprevious,the3nmlevelsegmentrequiresalotofthrustandtrimifyouarefullyconfiguredatthatpointsobeprepared.

Thefuelimbcklwasnotcompleted(norequirement)andwenoticedthefuelbalancedpassing1000ft

NoRWYXXXsoFDsoff/PMonatminimumandland,thisrunwayonlyveryslightlytotherightbutw/valsofromtherightsomoveacrossearly.

That’sitENJOY!HelpfulKiwi


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