defending moral absolutes in a relativistic world copyright by norman l. geisler 2005
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DefendingDefendingMoral Moral
AbsolutesAbsolutesIn a Relativistic In a Relativistic
WorldWorld
Copyright by Norman L. Geisler 2005Copyright by Norman L. Geisler 2005
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I. Definition of a I. Definition of a Moral AbsoluteMoral Absolute
A. Meaning of a Moral DutyA. Meaning of a Moral Duty
1.1. Imperative Imperative vs.vs. declarative declarative 2. 2. Ought Ought vs. vs. IsIs
3.3. PrescriptionPrescription vs. vs. descriptiondescription
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Facts vs. Facts vs. ValuesValues
What we What we do do What we What we oughtought to doto do
Descriptive PrescriptiveDescriptive PrescriptiveSociology MoralitySociology Morality
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I. Definition of a I. Definition of a Moral AbsoluteMoral Absolute
I. Definition of a I. Definition of a Moral AbsoluteMoral Absolute
A. Meaning of a Moral DutyA. Meaning of a Moral Duty
B. Meaning of an B. Meaning of an AbsoluteAbsolute Duty Duty 1. Binding on 1. Binding on everyoneeveryone----objectiveobjective
2. Binding 2. Binding everywhereeverywhere----universaluniversal
3. Binding 3. Binding at all timesat all times----perpetualperpetual
A. Meaning of a Moral DutyA. Meaning of a Moral Duty
B. Meaning of an B. Meaning of an AbsoluteAbsolute Duty Duty 1. Binding on 1. Binding on everyoneeveryone----objectiveobjective
2. Binding 2. Binding everywhereeverywhere----universaluniversal
3. Binding 3. Binding at all timesat all times----perpetualperpetual
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I. Definition of a I. Definition of a Moral AbsoluteMoral Absolute
A. Meaning of a Moral DutyA. Meaning of a Moral Duty
B. Meaning of an Absolute DutyB. Meaning of an Absolute Duty
C. Meaning of a C. Meaning of a RelativeRelative Duty: Duty: 1. Binding 1. Binding on some peopleon some people
2. Binding 2. Binding in some placesin some places
3. Binding 3. Binding at some timesat some times
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An Absolute Moral An Absolute Moral DutyDuty
is one that is binding is one that is binding
on on allall personspersons
at at all timesall times
in in all places!all places!
An Absolute Moral An Absolute Moral DutyDuty
is one that is binding is one that is binding
on on allall personspersons
at at all timesall times
in in all places!all places!
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A Relative Moral A Relative Moral DutyDuty
is one that is binding is one that is binding
on on somesome persons,persons,
at at some times, some times, oror
in in some places!some places!
A Relative Moral A Relative Moral DutyDuty
is one that is binding is one that is binding
on on somesome persons,persons,
at at some times, some times, oror
in in some places!some places!
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I. Definition of I. Definition of Absolute Absolute Morals DutyMorals Duty
II. Defense of Absolute II. Defense of Absolute Moral DutyMoral Duty
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[As an atheist] my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.
Straight Line = Absolute Standard
1. We can’t know what is in-just
unless we know what is Just.
C.S. LewisMere Christianity, 45.
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2. Absolutes are 2. Absolutes are undeniable.undeniable.
I am I am absolutely absolutely
sure there are sure there are no absolutes!no absolutes!
You You should should
never say never say ‘never’!‘never’!
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The Father of Situational The Father of Situational EthicsEthics
He declared that He declared that we should:we should:
1. Always avoid 1. Always avoid using“always.”using“always.”
2. Never use “never.”2. Never use “never.”
3. Absolutely avoid 3. Absolutely avoid absolutes.absolutes.
((Situation EthicsSituation Ethics, 43), 43)Joseph Fletcher
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But Fletcher Couldn’t Avoid But Fletcher Couldn’t Avoid Using Universal Terms Using Universal Terms
HimselfHimself
But Fletcher Couldn’t Avoid But Fletcher Couldn’t Avoid Using Universal Terms Using Universal Terms
HimselfHimselfHe said: He said: 1. “1. “OnlyOnly one thing is intrinsically one thing is intrinsically
Good” (p. 51).Good” (p. 51).
2. “The ruling norm… is love; 2. “The ruling norm… is love; nothing nothing elseelse” (p. 69).” (p. 69).
3. “3. “OnlyOnly the end justifies the means” the end justifies the means” (p. 113). (p. 113).
4. “4. “NoNo act apart from its foreseeable act apart from its foreseeable consequences has any ethical consequences has any ethical meaning whatsoever” (p. 126).meaning whatsoever” (p. 126).
He said: He said: 1. “1. “OnlyOnly one thing is intrinsically one thing is intrinsically
Good” (p. 51).Good” (p. 51).
2. “The ruling norm… is love; 2. “The ruling norm… is love; nothing nothing elseelse” (p. 69).” (p. 69).
3. “3. “OnlyOnly the end justifies the means” the end justifies the means” (p. 113). (p. 113).
4. “4. “NoNo act apart from its foreseeable act apart from its foreseeable consequences has any ethical consequences has any ethical meaning whatsoever” (p. 126).meaning whatsoever” (p. 126).
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3. Moral comparisons demand3. Moral comparisons demand an objective standard. an objective standard.
=Mother Teresa is better than HitlerMother Teresa is better than Hitler
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4. True progress (or regress) 4. True progress (or regress) demands an absolute demands an absolute
standard.standard.We can’t know the world is We can’t know the world is
gettinggetting betterbetter (or worse) (or worse) unless we know what is unless we know what is BestBest
But we do know a world with But we do know a world with less hate, bigotry, and less hate, bigotry, and
intolerance is a intolerance is a betterbetter one! one!
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5. Everything can’t be relative?5. Everything can’t be relative?
It can’t be It can’t be relative to the relative to the relative, etc!relative, etc!
It must be It must be relative to relative to
what is NOT what is NOT relative!relative!
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Even Relativists Have Even Relativists Have AbsolutesAbsolutes
I.I. HeraclitusHeraclitus said: “No man steps into the said: “No man steps into the same river twice.”same river twice.”
II.II. But he had an But he had an unchanging Logos unchanging Logos beneath beneath the change by which he measured the the change by which he measured the change.change.
III.III. EinsteinEinstein said: Even time and space are said: Even time and space are relative.relative.
IV.IV. But the speed of But the speed of lightlight was held to be was held to be absolute in the physical world, and Absolute absolute in the physical world, and Absolute Spirit Spirit (God)(God) was behind the relative world. was behind the relative world.
I.I. HeraclitusHeraclitus said: “No man steps into the said: “No man steps into the same river twice.”same river twice.”
II.II. But he had an But he had an unchanging Logos unchanging Logos beneath beneath the change by which he measured the the change by which he measured the change.change.
III.III. EinsteinEinstein said: Even time and space are said: Even time and space are relative.relative.
IV.IV. But the speed of But the speed of lightlight was held to be was held to be absolute in the physical world, and Absolute absolute in the physical world, and Absolute Spirit Spirit (God)(God) was behind the relative world. was behind the relative world.
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The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard, saying that one of them conforms to that standard more nearly than the other. But the standard that measures two things is something different from either. C.S. Lewis
Mere Christianity, 25.
6. Moral disputes demand an objective
standard outside the dispute.
6. Moral disputes demand an objective
standard outside the dispute.
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7. We don’t invent the moral law 7. We don’t invent the moral law any more than we invent any more than we invent
mathematical or mathematical or physical laws.physical laws.
7. We don’t invent the moral law 7. We don’t invent the moral law any more than we invent any more than we invent
mathematical or mathematical or physical laws.physical laws.
No one invented the No one invented the laws of math--laws of math--
and Newton did not and Newton did not invent gravity.invent gravity.
Like moral laws, Like moral laws, they were they were discovered!discovered!
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8. Universal moral guilt shows 8. Universal moral guilt shows there is a universal there is a universal
moral law.moral law.
8. Universal moral guilt shows 8. Universal moral guilt shows there is a universal there is a universal
moral law.moral law.
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Making Excuses for our FaultsMaking Excuses for our Faults It seems then we are forced
to believe in a real Right and Wrong. First, human beings all over the earth have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way. Second, they do not in fact behave in that way. The truth is, we believe in decency so much that we cannot bear to face the fact that we are breaking it, and consequently we try to shift the responsibility.
C.S. LewisMere Christianity, 21
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9. We sometimes choose duty over instinct.
9. We sometimes choose duty over instinct.
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10. We all find some things evil (e,g., genocide, racism & bigotry)
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11. There are many things we 11. There are many things we don’t want others to do to don’t want others to do to
us us (e.g., lie, cheat, abuse, & (e.g., lie, cheat, abuse, &
kill).kill).
“Do unto others what you “Do unto others what you would have others do to would have others do to
you”you”--The Golden Rule (Mt. --The Golden Rule (Mt.
7:12)7:12)
11. There are many things we 11. There are many things we don’t want others to do to don’t want others to do to
us us (e.g., lie, cheat, abuse, & (e.g., lie, cheat, abuse, &
kill).kill).
“Do unto others what you “Do unto others what you would have others do to would have others do to
you”you”--The Golden Rule (Mt. --The Golden Rule (Mt.
7:12)7:12)
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12. The same basic moral 12. The same basic moral codes are found in all major codes are found in all major culturescultures
12. The same basic moral 12. The same basic moral codes are found in all major codes are found in all major culturescultures Lewis shows that
prohibitions against disrespect of parents, lying, stealing, and killing are found in all major cultures of the world (see Appendix)
Lewis shows that prohibitions against disrespect of parents, lying, stealing, and killing are found in all major cultures of the world (see Appendix)
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I. Definition of Absolute I. Definition of Absolute Morals DutyMorals Duty
II. Defense of Absolutes II. Defense of Absolutes Moral DutyMoral Duty
III. Distinguishing III. Distinguishing Absolute and Absolute and RelativeRelative
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Distinguishing:Distinguishing: Absolute vs. Absolute vs. RelativeRelative
Values vs. InstancesValues vs. Instances
Values vs. Values vs. UnderstandingUnderstanding
The End vs. The MeansThe End vs. The Means
Command vs. CultureCommand vs. Culture
Values vs. Which Values vs. Which Value Value
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Values vs. InstancesValues vs. Instances
Absolute MoralAbsolute Moral
Values doValues do
NOT change…NOT change…But But beliefsbeliefs
about whether about whether a given actiona given action
violates a moralviolates a moralvalue DO change.value DO change.
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Values vs. InstancesValues vs. Instances
Witch hunters used to believe
witches murdered
people with their curses.
Now, we know they do not.
The moral value vs. murder did
not change. People’s
understanding of what violated the moral value
did change.
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A person’s understanding of a moral value A person’s understanding of a moral value can change over time. The Moral value can change over time. The Moral value itself, however, does NOT change.itself, however, does NOT change.
Values vs. Understanding Values vs. Understanding ThemThem
““The truth of a The truth of a statement resides in statement resides in its relation to reality, its relation to reality, not in its relation to not in its relation to
the individual’s the individual’s judgment about itjudgment about it.”.”
Mortimer J. AdlerMortimer J. Adler
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Values vs. Understanding Values vs. Understanding ThemThem
A couple understands A couple understands love better after love better after
many years.many years.
However, Love didn’t change.
Their understanding of it changed.
1985
2005
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The End vs. The MeansThe End vs. The Means
Basic Moral Basic Moral EndEnd (the moral value (the moral value itself) does not itself) does not
changechange But the But the MeansMeans
(how to attain the(how to attain the
moral value) moral value)
may changemay change
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The End vs. The MeansThe End vs. The Means
Both pacifists and Both pacifists and militarists militarists desire the desire the same same end end (peace).(peace).
They simply They simply disagree as to disagree as to
meansmeans to to
attain that end.attain that end.
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Just because a moral command Just because a moral command is expressed differently in is expressed differently in
different culturesdifferent cultures
DOES NOT MEANDOES NOT MEAN
The moral command The moral command itself is different itself is different
Command vs. CultureCommand vs. Culture
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Command vs. CultureCommand vs. Culture
Greeting by a kiss is considered polite in some cultures. In others it would
repel.
WHAT should be done (greeting) is
the same.
HOW it should be done is different.
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Whether Values Change Whether Values Change vs.Which Value Applies vs.Which Value Applies
There are times There are times when the issue when the issue is notis not WHETHER WHETHER a moral value a moral value
exists and exists and should be should be applied,applied,
butbut WHICH WHICH
moral value moral value should be should be applied in applied in the given the given situation.situation.
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Whether Values Change Whether Values Change vs. Which Value Appliesvs. Which Value Applies
A woman A woman contemplating contemplating abortion may abortion may believe that believe that human life human life
has value.has value.
So, what’s it
gonna be, Mom?
But she may have But she may have been told that an been told that an
unborn child is unborn child is not human.not human.
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I. Definition of Absolute I. Definition of Absolute Morals DutyMorals Duty
II. Defense of Absolutes II. Defense of Absolutes Moral DutyMoral Duty
III. Distinguishing III. Distinguishing Absolute and Relative Absolute and Relative
IV. Determining AbsolutesIV. Determining Absolutes
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IV. Determining IV. Determining AbsolutesAbsolutes
A. From the Top Down:A. From the Top Down:
The Moral Nature of God The Moral Nature of God 1.1. God is the basis for God is the basis for all all moral absolutes. moral absolutes.
2. The moral law reflects 2. The moral law reflects the Moral Law Giver. the Moral Law Giver.
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Knowing AbsolutesKnowing AbsolutesGod is God is love--love--Love is always rightLove is always right
God is God is just--just--Justice is always rightJustice is always right
God is God is truth--truth--Truth is always rightTruth is always right
God is God is holy--holy--Holiness is always Holiness is always right right
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IV. Determining IV. Determining AbsolutesAbsolutes
A. From the Top DownA. From the Top Down
B. From the Bottom UpB. From the Bottom Up 1. The effect is like the Cause1. The effect is like the Cause
2. The creature is like its Creator 2. The creature is like its Creator 3. The moral law is like the 3. The moral law is like the
Moral Law Giver Moral Law Giver
4. It is written on our hearts4. It is written on our hearts
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Written on our Written on our HeartsHearts
How to read the Moral Law: By--How to read the Moral Law: By-- Our Our Inclinations,Inclinations, not by our cognitions; not by our cognitions;
Our Our expectationsexpectations, not by our actions;, not by our actions;
WhatWhat we want done to us we want done to us, not by what , not by what we want to do to others.we want to do to others.
In short, read the meaning from In short, read the meaning from out ofout of our our nature; don’t read our meaningnature; don’t read our meaning into into it. it.
How to read the Moral Law: By--How to read the Moral Law: By-- Our Our Inclinations,Inclinations, not by our cognitions; not by our cognitions;
Our Our expectationsexpectations, not by our actions;, not by our actions;
WhatWhat we want done to us we want done to us, not by what , not by what we want to do to others.we want to do to others.
In short, read the meaning from In short, read the meaning from out ofout of our our nature; don’t read our meaningnature; don’t read our meaning into into it. it.
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