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CORRELATING COMMITTEE ON FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT JANUARY 7-8, 2016 NEW ORLEANS, LA AGENDA 1. Introduction, Bill Haskell, Chair 2. Introductions by members and guests 3. Welcome remarks from Ken Willette, Division Manager/Public Fire Protection 4. NFPA Staff Liaison report, Chris Farrell 5. PPE project reorganization presentation, Chris Farrell 6. Approval of minutes from previous meeting 7. Chairman’s remarks, Bill Haskell 8. ISO presentations a. ISO SC13, David Matthews b. ISO SC14, Russell Shepherd 9. Ground Robots and Drones, Velin Dimitrov 10. NFPA TC on Fire Hose, Operational Environment Task Group, Andrew Ellison 11. Firefighter Hazard Environment, Dan Rossos 12. NFPA label as applied to radios, Bob Athanas 13. NFFF 2016 research agenda, Bruce Varner/ Bill Haskell 14. New selection, care and maintenance document to accompany NFPA 1977, Rick Swan 15. NFPA 1977 Tentative Interim Amendment, Rick Swan/Steve Corrado 16. Project Definitions – Correlating Committee & Technical Committee Path Forward 17. NFPA standard review a. NFPA 1801 b. NFPA 1951 c. NFPA 1971 d. NFPA 1999 18. TC Chair Reports TC on ELS R. Athanas TC on EMS T. Hock TC on HAZ C. Baxter TC on RPE D. Rossos TC on SCE J. Metz TC on SPF S. King TC on TTO B. Montgomery TC on WFFR. Swan 19. Old business 20. New business a. Next PPE CC meeting, date(s) and location 21. Adjourn

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  • CORRELATING COMMITTEE ON

    FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT

    JANUARY 7-8, 2016

    NEW ORLEANS, LA

    AGENDA

    1. Introduction, Bill Haskell, Chair

    2. Introductions by members and guests

    3. Welcome remarks from Ken Willette, Division Manager/Public Fire Protection

    4. NFPA Staff Liaison report, Chris Farrell

    5. PPE project reorganization presentation, Chris Farrell

    6. Approval of minutes from previous meeting

    7. Chairman’s remarks, Bill Haskell

    8. ISO presentations

    a. ISO SC13, David Matthews

    b. ISO SC14, Russell Shepherd

    9. Ground Robots and Drones, Velin Dimitrov

    10. NFPA TC on Fire Hose, Operational Environment Task Group, Andrew Ellison

    11. Firefighter Hazard Environment, Dan Rossos

    12. NFPA label as applied to radios, Bob Athanas

    13. NFFF 2016 research agenda, Bruce Varner/ Bill Haskell

    14. New selection, care and maintenance document to accompany NFPA 1977, Rick Swan

    15. NFPA 1977 Tentative Interim Amendment, Rick Swan/Steve Corrado

    16. Project Definitions – Correlating Committee & Technical Committee Path Forward

    17. NFPA standard review

    a. NFPA 1801

    b. NFPA 1951

    c. NFPA 1971

    d. NFPA 1999 18. TC Chair Reports

    TC on ELS – R. Athanas TC on EMS – T. Hock TC on HAZ – C. Baxter TC on RPE – D. Rossos TC on SCE – J. Metz TC on SPF – S. King TC on TTO – B. Montgomery TC on WFF– R. Swan

    19. Old business

    20. New business

    a. Next PPE CC meeting, date(s) and location

    21. Adjourn

  • 1

    MINUTES OF THE MEETING

    NFPA CORRELATING COMMITTEE ON FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES

    PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT

    1983, 1986, 1992 & 1994 CC FIRST DRAFT MEETING

    ADOBE CONNECT / TELECONFERENCE JULY 8, 2015

    8 July 2015 Agenda Items 1, 2 and 3: Call to Order, Roll Call of Members and Guests, Chairman’s Remarks Correlating Committee Chairman Bill Haskell called the meeting to order at 11:00 a.m. and a roll call of members was conducted. Guests were asked to identify themselves. The following members and guests were present: Principal Members, Alternates (A), and Non-voting (NV) members present:

    Bill Haskell, Chairman NIOSH-NPPTL Ben Mauti, Acting Secretary MSA Safety / Compressed Gas Association David Trebisacci, Staff Liaison NFPA Christina Baxter (NV) TC on Hazardous Materials PC&E James Brinkley IAFF Brandi Chestang (A) US Dept. of the Navy Steve Corrado Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. Cristine Fargo ISEA Robert Freese Globe Manufacturing Company Tim Gardner (A) 3M Company Beverly Gulledge (Telephone) Tyco/Scott David Haston USDA Kim Henry (A) PBI Performance Products Thomas Hosea US Dept. of the Navy Stephen King (NV) (Telephone) TC on Structural and Proximity Fire PC&E Karen Lehtonen (Telephone) Lion Apparel, Inc. David G. Matthews Fire & Industrial (P.P.E) Ltd. Mike McKenna Michael McKenna & Associates, LLC Brian Montgomery (NV) TC on Nonstructural Fire Fighting SCBA Amanda Newsom (A) Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. Anthony Petrilli (A) U.S. Dept. of Agriculture Forest Service Dan Rossos (NV) TC on Respiratory Protection Equipment Jeff Stull International Personal Protection, Inc. Rick Swan (NV) TC on Wildland Fire Fighting PC&E Tim Tomlinson Addison Fire Department Robert Tutterow FIERO / NFPA Fire Service Section William Van Lent FEMSA Harry Winer HIP Consulting LLC

  • 2

    Guests Present:

    James Cliver Milliken & Company Ben Mauti MSA Safety Marni Schmid Fortunes Collide Marketing Steven Weinstein Honeywell Safety Products

    Chairman Haskell welcomed the committee and did not have any additional remarks.

    Agenda Item 4: Approval of the May 14-15, 2015 Hartford CC Meeting The Minutes of the CC meeting held on May 14-15 were approved without changes by unanimous consent.

    Agenda Item 5: NFPA Staff Liaison Report, Dave Trebisacci

    Agenda Item 6: NFPA 1983 - First revisions and ballot results The first revision and ballot results were reviewed and discussed. The document will move forward to a letter ballot of the correlating committee.

    Agenda Item 7: NFPA 1986 – First revisions and ballot results The first revision and ballot results were reviewed and discussed. The document will move forward to a letter ballot of the correlating committee.

    Agenda Item 8: NFPA 1992 – First revisions and ballot results The first revision and ballot results were discussed. Created one Correlating Committee note.

    Agenda Item 9: NFPA 1994 – First revision and ballot results The first revision and ballot results were discussed. Created two Correlating Committee notes.

    Agenda Item 10: Discussion: Future Project Organization This agenda item was tabled until the next Correlating Committee meeting.

    Agenda Item 11: Chapter 4 Certification – issue / standardization across the project documents There was limited Committee discussion on this topic. The primary focus was on labeling and dates. The conclusion was that there should be standardization across the Technical Committees.

  • 3

    Agenda Item 12: Technical Committee Chair Reports

    TC on ELS: R. Athanas: Upcoming meeting will focus on public comments on NFPA 1801. The TC is also investigating the impact of First Net on the new radio standard.

    TC on EMS: T. Hock: No update.

    TC on HAZ: C. Baxter: Updates primarily covered in first revision updates. The TC is also investigating the creation of a SCAM document.

    TC on RPE: D. Rossos: TC will be slipping NFPA 1989 and NFPA 1852 by half a cycle to better align with other committee work.

    TC on SCE: J. Metz: TC continues to work on NFPA 1951, with a focus on a glove liquid penetration test. The committee has a new user on the TC from Yuma, Arizona. The TC will begin to work on NFPA 1983 in January. The TC is also beginning work on a SCAM document for NFPA 1982. The new standard will carry number 1858.

    TC on SPF: S. King: No update.

    TC on TTO: B. Montgomery: No additional update.

    TC on WFF: R. Swan: No update.

    Agenda Items 16 and 17: Old Business and New Business The next Correlating Committee meeting will be January 7-8, 2016 in New Orleans, LA. Dan Rossos requested that the CC revisit and discuss the topic of ensemble testing at future meetings.

    Agenda Item 18: Adjournment Chairman Haskell adjourned the meeting at 1400 on 8 July 2015. Respectfully submitted, Benjamin A. Mauti, Acting Secretary CC on FESPCE

  • National Fire Protection Association

    1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

    Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

    M E M O R A N D U M

    To: NFPA Technical Committee on Electronic Safety Equipment

    From: Yvonne Smith, Project Administrator

    Date: October 13, 2015

    Subject: NFPA 1801 First Draft TC FINAL Ballot Results (A2017)

    According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass ballot.

    34 Members Eligible to Vote

    9 Not Returned (Allen, Berger, Facella, Helvin, Makky, Shannon, Townsend, Wolf, Worrell)

    25 Affirmative on All Revisions (w/comment 1; Chavez)

    0 Negative on one or more Revisions

    0 Abstentions on one or more Revisions

    The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the explanation of

    the vote for each firstrevision.

    There are two criteria necessary for each first revision to pass ballot: (1) simple majority and (2) affirmative 2/3

    vote. The mock examples below show how the calculations are determined.

    (1) Example for Simple Majority: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members, 11 affirmative votes

    are required to pass ballot. (Sample calculation: 20 members eligible to vote ÷ 2 = 10 + 1 = 11)

    (2) Example for Affirmative 2/3: Assuming there are 20 vote eligible committee members and 1 member did not

    return their ballot and 2 members abstained, the number of affirmative votes required would be 12. (Sample

    calculation: 20 members eligible to vote – 1 not returned – 2 abstentions = 17 x 0.66 = 11.22 = 12 )

    As always please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

  • First Revision No. 9-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Chapter 2 ]

    Chapter 2 Referenced Publications

    2.1 General.

    The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall beconsidered part of the requirements of this document.

    2.2 NFPA Publications.

    National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

    NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting,2013 2018 edition.

    2.3 Other Publications.

    2.3.1 ANSI ISA Publications.

    American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43d Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.

    The International Society of Automation, 67 T.W. Alexander Drive, P.O. Box 12277, Research TrianglePark, NC 27709.

    ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III,Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, 2007 2013 .

    2.3.2 ASTM Publications.

    ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

    ASTM B 117 B117 , Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, 2011.

    ASTM D 1003 D1003 , Standard Test Method for Haze and Luminous Transmittance of TransparentPlastics, 2000 2013 .

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  • 2.3.3 ISO/IEC Publications.

    International Standards Organization, 1 rue de Varembé, Case Postale 56, CH-1211 Genéve 20,Switzerland for Standardization, ISO Central Secretariat, BIBC II, Chemin de Blandonnet 8, CP 401,1214 Vernier, Geneva, Switzerland.

    IEC 60529, Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code) Ed. 2.1 b:2001 2.2, 2013/Cor1:2013 .

    IEC 61000-6-2, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) — Part 6-2: Generic standards — Immunity forindustrial environments, 2005.

    IEC 61000-6-3, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) — Part 6-3: Generic standards — Emission standardfor residential, commercial, and light-industrial environments, 2007 2011 .

    ISO 27, Guidelines for corrective action to be taken by a certification body in the event of misuse of itsmark of conformity, 1983.

    ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems , 1998

    ISO 9001, Quality management systems — Requirements, 2008 2014 .

    ISO 17011, Conformity assessment — General requirements for accreditation bodies accreditingconformity assessment bodies, 2004.

    ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of testing and calibration laboratories, 2005/Cor 1:2006.

    ISO 17493, Clothing and equipment for protection against heat — Test method for convective heatresistance using a hot air circulating oven, 2000.

    ISO/IEC 17021, Conformity assessment — Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification ofmanagement systems, 2006 2011 .

    ISO/IEC 17065, Conformity assessment — Requirements for bodies certifying products, processes, andservices , 2012.

    2.3.4 NIST Publications.

    National Institute of Standards and Technology, 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070, Gaithersburg, MD20899-1070.

    , NIST Technical Note 1630, Evaluation of Image Quality of Thermal Imagers Used by the Fire Service,February 2009.

    2.3.5 Other Publications.

    Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.

    2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. (Reserved)

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 15:34:49 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    Committee Statement: The changes introduced by this First Revision update the referenced documents.Response Message:

    Public Input No. 3-NFPA 1801-2014 [Chapter 2]

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  • Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

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  • Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 3.3.16 ]

    3.3.17 Model.

    The collective term used to identify a group of elements or items of the same basic design andcomponents from a single manufacturer produced by the same manufacturing and quality assuranceprocedures that are covered by the same certification.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 14:30:45 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The term "model" is being defined in Chapter 3 because it is used in the standard. Theproposed definition was taken from NFPA 1982.

    ResponseMessage:

    Public Input No. 101-NFPA 1801-2015 [New Section after 3.3.16]

    Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

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  • Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 3-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 3.3.25 ]

    3.3.26 Service Life.

    The period that a compliant product can be useful before retirement.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 14:33:56 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The term "service life" does not exist in the current standard and is being included because it isused in the standard. The technical committee believes that end users should be aware of whatthis term means.This definition was taken from NFPA 1981.

    ResponseMessage:

    Public Input No. 102-NFPA 1801-2015 [New Section after 3.3.25]

    Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

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  • Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 6-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 4.1.2 ]

    4.1.2

    All certification shall be performed by a certification organization that meets at least the requirementsspecified in Section 4.2, Certification Program, and that is accredited for personal protective equipment inaccordance with ISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certificationsystems ISO/IEC 17065, Conformity assessment - requirements for bodies certifying products,processes, and services. The accreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating inaccordance with ISO 17011, Conformity assessment — General requirements for accreditation bodiesaccrediting conformity assessment bodies.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 14:53:51 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is updating the ISO document number and title to the currentversion.

    Response Message:

    Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.1.2]

    Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

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  • Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 8-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 4.1.6 ]

    4.1.7

    The certification organization shall not certify any thermal imager to the 2013 edition of this standard onor after the NFPA effective date for the 2018 edition, which is [insert effective date pending StandardsCouncil approval].

    4.1.8

    The certification organization shall not permit any manufacturer to label any thermal imager ascompliant with the 2013 edition of this standard on or after [insert effective date pending StandardsCouncil approval plus XX months], except when replacement labels or replacement components thatbear the certification organization's label are required.

    4.1.9

    The certification organization shall require manufacturers to remove all certification labels and productlabels indicating compliance with the 2013 edition of this standard from all thermal imagers that areunder the ownership and control of the manufacturer on [insert effective date pending StandardsCouncil approval plus XX months]. The certification organization shall verify that this action is taken.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 15:14:00 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is providing requirements for the certification of products and productlabels concurrent with the issuance of the new standard..

    ResponseMessage:

    Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

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  • Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 7-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 4.2.3 ]

    4.2.3

    The certification organization shall be accredited for personal protective equipment in accordance withISO 65, General requirements for bodies operating product certification systems ISO/IEC 17065,Conformity assessment — Requirements for bodies certifying products, processes, and services . Theaccreditation shall be issued by an accreditation body operating in accordance with ISO 17011,Conformity assessment — General requirements for accreditation bodies accrediting conformityassessment bodies.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 15:01:23 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is updating the ISO document number and title to currentversion.

    Response Message:

    Public Input No. 17-NFPA 1801-2014 [Section No. 4.2.3]

    Ballot Results

    This item has passed ballot

    34 Eligible Voters9 Not Returned

    25 Affirmative All0 Affirmative with Comments0 Negative with Comments0 Abstention

    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

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  • Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 65-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 4.3.9 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]

    ]

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  • Test Order Specimen 1-3 Specimen 4-6 Specimen 7-9 Specimen 10-12 Specimen 13-15 Specimen 16-18

    1

    Image Recognition

    Test Section 8.1

    Specimens 1-3

    Image

    Recognition Test

    Section 8.1

    Specimens 4-6

    Corrosion Test

    Section 8.4

    Specimens 7-9

    Heat Resistance

    Test Section 8.6

    Specimens 10-12

    Image Recognition

    Test Section 8.1

    Specimens 13-15

    Image Recognition

    Test Section 8.1

    Specimens 16-18

    2

    Field of View

    Measurement

    Section 8.11

    Specimens 1-3

    Cable Pullout Test

    Section 8.9

    Specimens 4-6

    Product Label

    Durability Test

    Section 8.8

    Specimens 7-9

    Product Label

    Durability Test

    Section 8.8

    Specimens 10-12

    Vibration Test

    Section 8.2

    Specimens 13-15

    Durability Test

    Section 8.13

    Specimens 16-18

    3

    Effective

    Temperature

    Range Test

    Section 8.10

    Specimen 1-3

    Impact

    Acceleration

    Resistance Test -

    Ambient Section

    8.3 Specimen 4

    Image Recognition

    Test Section 8.1

    Specimens 13-15

    Image Recognition

    Test Section 8.1

    Specimens 16-18

    4

    Thermal Sensitivity

    Test Section 8.12

    Specimens 1-3

    Impact

    Acceleration

    Resistance Test -

    Cold Section 8.3

    Specimen 5

    Product Label

    Durability Test

    Section 8.8

    Specimens 16-18

    5

    Heat and Flame

    Test Section 8.7

    Specimens 1-3

    Impact

    Acceleration

    Resistance Test -

    Elevated Section

    8.3 Specimen 6

    6

    Image

    Recognition Test

    Section 8.1

    Specimens 4-6

  • Testing to determine compliance of the thermal imager and the components that are necessary for theproper operation of the thermal imager with the performance requirements specified in Chapter 7 shall beconducted by the certification organization in accordance with the specified testing requirements ofChapter 8. The order of testing shall be conducted as specified in Table 4.3.9.

    Table 4.3.9 Test Matrix for Thermal Imagers

    TestOrder

    Specimens1–3

    Specimens4–6

    Specimens7–9

    Specimens10–12

    Specimens13–15

    Specimens16–18

    1

    Field of ViewMeasurementSection 8.11Specimens 1–3

    Cable PulloutTestSection 8.9Specimens 4–6

    Corrosion TestSection 8.4Specimens7–9

    HeatResistanceTestSection 8.6Specimens10–12

    Vibration TestSection 8.2Specimens13–15

    Durability TestSection 8.13Specimens16–18

    2

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1Specimens 1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistance Test— AmbientSection 8.3Specimen 4

    Product LabelDurability TestSection 8.8Specimens7–9

    Product LabelDurability TestSection 8.8Specimens10–12

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1Specimens13–15

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1Specimens16–18

    3

    EffectiveTemperatureRange TestSection 8.10Specimens 1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistance Test— ColdSection 8.3Specimen 5

    — — —

    Product LabelDurability TestSection 8.8Specimens16–18

    4

    ThermalSensitivity TestSection 8.12Specimens 1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistance Test— ElevatedTemperatureSection 8.3Specimen 6

    — — — —

    5

    Heat and FlameTestSection 8.7Specimens 1–3

    ImageRecognitionTestSection 8.1Specimens 4–6

    — — — —

    Table 4.3.9 Test Matrix for Thermal Imagers

    TestOrder

    Specimens1–3

    Specimens4–6

    Specimens7–9

    Specimens10–12

    Specimens13–15

    Specimens16–18

    1

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1 Specimens1–3

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1 Specimens4–6

    Corrosion TestSection 8.4Specimens7–9

    HeatResistanceTest Section8.6 Specimens10–12

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1 Specimens13–15

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1Specimens16–18

    2

    Field of ViewMeasurementSection 8.11Specimens1–3

    Cable PulloutTest Section8.9 Specimens4–6

    Product LabelDurability TestSection 8.8Specimens7–9

    Product LabelDurability TestSection 8.8Specimens10–12

    Vibration TestSection 8.2Specimens13–15

    Durability TestSection 8.13Specimens16–18

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    Specimens1–3

    Specimens4–6

    Specimens7–9

    Specimens10–12

    Specimens13–15

    Specimens16–18

    3

    EffectiveTemperatureRange TestSection 8.10Specimens1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistanceTest - AmbientSection 8.3Specimen 4

    ImageRecognitionTest Section

    8.1 Specimens13–15

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1Specimens16–18

    4

    ThermalSensitivity TestSection 8.12Specimens1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistanceTest -ColdSection 8.3Specimen 5

    Product LabelDurability Test

    Section 8.8Specimens

    16–18

    5

    Heat andFlame TestSection 8.7Specimens1–3

    ImpactAccelerationResistanceTest - ElevatedSection 8.3Specimen 6

    6

    ImageRecognitionTest Section8.1 Specimens4–6

    Supplemental Information

    File Name DescriptionRevised_NFPA_1801_Chapter_4_Test_Matrix.xlsx Replacement Table 4.3.9.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Mon Aug 03 10:51:12 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The revisions made to Table 4.3.9 were as a result of revisions made to the ImageRecognition Test in Chapter 8.

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    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

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    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

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  • First Revision No. 40-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 4.3.9.4 ]

    4.3.9.4

    Where any accessories, enhancements, or both are built into, attached to, or detachable from the thermalimager, including, but not limited to, methods of attachment to the operator, the certification organizationshall inspect and evaluate the thermal imager as specified in Chapter 6 and shall test the thermal imageras specified in Chapter 8. The thermal imager shall meet all the performance requirements specified inChapter 7 with those accessories and enhancements installed or attached, including, but not limited to,methods of attachment to the operator, to ensure that the performance and functions of the thermalimager are not reduced or otherwise negatively affected.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 21:13:25 EDT 2015

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • First Revision No. 10-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.6 ]

    5.1.6

    The following compliance statement shall be legibly printed on the product label:

    “THIS THERMAL IMAGER MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF NFPA 1801, STANDARD ONTHERMAL IMAGERS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE,2013 2018 EDITION.

    DO NOT REMOVE THIS LABEL!”

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 17:34:59 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The date on the label is being updated to correspond to the next edition date of thestandard.

    Response Message:

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    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • First Revision No. 11-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.7 ]

    5.1.7

    Each thermal imager shall be permanently marked directly with the serial number and the year andmonth of manufacture with a serial number and the year and month of manufacture .

    5.1.7.1

    The year and month of manufacture shall be separate from the serial number and shall be in MM/YYYYformat.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 17:54:38 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is introducing new requirements to indicate that both a serial number andthe year and month of manufacture shall be marked. The committee's intent is to prevent the yearand month from being embedded somewhere else within the serial number.

    This change is also similar to the requirements in section 5.1.8 and makes both paragraphs moreconsistent.

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    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • First Revision No. 12-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.1.8 ]

    5.1.8

    All rechargeable power sources provided by the thermal imager manufacturer shall be marked with aserial number and the year and date month of manufacture.

    5.1.8.1

    The year and month of manufacture shall be separate from the serial number and shall be in MM/YYYYformat.

    5.1.9

    Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipmentfor Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations,and shall meet the product label (marking) requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and Dand Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with a temperature class of T3through T6 inclusive.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 18:15:34 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    In paragraphs 5.1.8 and 5.1.8.1, the technical committee is clarifying the intent of the label date.

    There are three key aspects to the proposed addition of the new 5.1.9:

    1) Added text is similar to 7.1.4 as a new paragraph under 5.1 on product label requirements. Thefocus of this new paragraph is compliance with the product label (marking) requirements fromANSI/ISA 12.12.01. The rationale for this is because ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 includes requirements forproduct label (marking) in addition to performance requirements. Without the addition of this newparagraph, NFPA 1801 could be mistakenly assumed to only require compliance with theperformance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12.01.

    2) Expand the referenced Division 2 certification requirement to include Class II, Division 2, GroupsF and G, in addition to the existing Class I, Division 2 requirements. The rationale for this is becauseexposure to Class II explosive dust atmospheres (such as coal, carbon black, charcoal, coke, flour,grain, wood, and plastic dusts) is a concern for this equipment, in addition to exposure to Class Iexplosive gas atmospheres. Compliance with such Class II, Division 2 requirements mostly involvesuse of a NEMA Type 12 or better enclosure.

    3) Include reference to the T3 and T4 temperature classifications between T3 and T6 that havesuffixes, in addition to the existing reference to T3, T4, T5 and T6. The rationale for this is becauseT3A, T3B, T3C and T4A are permitted temperature classifications between T3 and T6 in bothANSI/ISA-12.12.01 and in the NEC. See also Public Input No. 50-NFPA 1801-2015.

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    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

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    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

    Affirmative with Comment

    Chavez, Louis

    The following changes need to be made to be consistent with the wording of 7.1.4- "5.1.9 Thermal imagers shallbe listed to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01,....." versus existing text 5.1.9 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing toANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the product label (marking) requirements for at leastClass I, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with atemperature class of T3 through T6 inclusive.

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  • First Revision No. 13-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.2.3 ]

    5.2.3*

    Information and materials regarding pre-operational preoperational use shall be provided on at least thefollowing areas:

    (1) Safety considerations

    (2) Pre-use Preuse checks

    (3) Limitations of use

    (4) Power source requirements, type, and brand

    (5) Estimated operation time on fully charged power source in each available mode

    (6) Estimated operational time associated with each of the four segments on the power source statusindicator

    (7) Low-power source signals and power supply replacement, where applicable

    (8) Charging and recharging procedures

    (9) Marking recommendations and restrictions

    (10) Warranty information

    (11) Recommended storage practices

    (12) Mounting on/in vehicles or fire apparatus

    (13) Explanation and identification of the features and functions of TI BASIC/TI BASIC PLUS

    (14) Symbols and functions with associated temperature references in available operating modes

    (15) If equipped with a temperature bar, adequate description of the use of the temperature bar

    (16) If equipped with a numeric temperature indicator, adequate description of the use of the numerictemperature indicator

    (17) If equipped with colorization, adequate description of the temperature thresholds for colorization

    Supplemental Information

    File Name DescriptionA.5.2.3_FR-13.docx New annex material

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 18:18:54 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee believes that although the standard specifies percentage of poweravailable percentage, this means little to the user. Section 6.1.2 requires that the thermal imager

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  • shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASIC mode. If themanufacturer supplies a power source that is capable of operating for a minimum of 120 minutes orgreater it should be able to provide the estimated level of power associated with each of the foursegments in time. It should be noted that the operating time of a fully charged power source currentlysupplied in many thermal imagers far exceeds 120 minutes.

    An Annex text and Table are also being added as explanatory material.ResponseMessage:

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    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

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    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • FR-13, New Annex material

    A.5.2.3

    Information and materials regarding pre-operational use (a user’s manual) provides the user with

    information about the operation of the TIC, Basic and Basic Plus features, its care, and maintenance. The

    organization of the user’s manual is not specified. The following checklist can help assure that the

    supplied documentation addresses all requirements. The column labeled “Page no./Paragraph” should

    identify the page and paragraph number where the requirement in the column labeled “Description” is

    addressed. This will ensure that all requirements have been met and manufacturers may provide the

    table to the certification organization with their user’s manual to assist with the verification of their

    compliance with the standard. Including this checklist, or some form of it, as part of the user’s manual

    will also assist users in becoming familiar with the camera.

    Figure A.5.2.3 Checklist.

    SECTION DESCRIPTION PAGE NO. / PARAGRAPH

    5.2.3 Information and materials regarding pre-operational use shall be provided on at least the following areas:

    1. Safety considerations

    2. Pre-use checks

    3. Limitations of use

    4. Power source requirements, type, and brand

    5. Estimate operation time on fully charged power source in each available mode

    6. Low-power source signals and power supply replacement, where applicable

    7. Charging and recharging procedures

    8. Marking recommendations and restrictions

    9. Warranty information

    10. Recommended storage practices

    11. Mounting on/in vehicles or fire apparatus

    12. Explanation and identification of the features and

  • functions of TI BASIC/TI BASIC PLUS

    13. Symbols and functions with associated temperature references in available operating modes

    14. If equipped with a temperature bar, adequate description of the use of the temperature bar

    15. If equipped with a numeric temperature indicator, adequate description of the use of the numeric temperature indicator

    16. If equipped with colorization, adequate description of the temperature thresholds for colorization

    5.2.4 Information and operational materials regarding periodic inspections shall be provided on at least inspection frequency and details.

    5.2.5 Information and operational materials regarding proper operational use shall be provided.

    5.2.6 Information and operational materials regarding periodic maintenance and cleaning shall be provided on at least the following areas:

    1. Cleaning instructions and precautions

    2. Disinfecting procedures

    3. Maintenance frequency and details

    4. Guidelines for service and repair

    5.2.7 Information and operational materials regarding replacement and retirement considerations for thermal imagers and components shall be provided.

  • First Revision No. 4-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 5.2.7 ]

    5.2.7

    Information and operational materials regarding service life, replacement, and retirement considerationsfor thermal imagers and components shall be provided.

    5.2.8

    Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipmentfor Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations,and shall meet the user information (manufacturer’s instructional manual) requirements for at leastClass I, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, andwith a temperature class of T3 through T6 inclusive.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jul 21 14:45:18 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is adding the term "service life" to provide further clarification to 5.2.7.

    There are three key aspects to the proposed new text for 5.2.8:

    1) The new added text is similar to 7.1.4 as a new paragraph under 5.2 on user informationrequirements. The focus of this new requirement is compliance with the user information(manufacturer’s instruction manual) requirements from ANSI/ISA 12.12.01. The rationale for this isbecause compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 includes requirements for user information(manufacturer’s instruction manual), in addition to performance requirements. Without the addition ofthis new paragraph, NFPA 1801 could be mistakenly assumed to only require compliance with theperformance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12.01.

    2) Expand the referenced Division 2 certification requirement to include Class II, Division 2, Groups Fand G, in addition to the existing Class I, Division 2 requirements. The rationale for this is becauseexposure to Class II explosive dust atmospheres (such as coal, carbon black, charcoal, coke, flour,grain, wood, and plastic dusts) is a concern for this equipment, in addition to exposure to Class Iexplosive gas atmospheres. Compliance with such Class II, Division 2 requirements mostly involvesuse of a NEMA Type 12 or better enclosure.

    3) Include reference to the T3 and T4 temperature classifications between T3 and T6 that havesuffixes, in addition to the existing reference to T3, T4, T5 and T6. The rationale for this is becauseT3A, T3B, T3C and T4A are permitted temperature classifications between T3 and T6 in bothANSI/ISA-12.12.01 and in the NEC. See also Public Input No. 50-NFPA 1801-2015.

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    Not Returned

    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

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    Chavez, Louis

    The following changes need to be made to be consistent with the wording of 7.1.4 - "5.2.8 Thermal imagers shallbe listed to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01,....." versus existing text 5.2.8 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing toANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the user information (manufacturer’s instructionalmanual) requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and Ghazardous locations, and with a temperature class of T3 through T6 inclusive.

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  • First Revision No. 14-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.2 ]

    6.1.2*

    All thermal imagers shall be capable of continuously operating for a minimum of 120 minutes in TI BASICmode at 22 o C ± 3 o C (72 o F ± 5 o F) and without the power source being changed or recharged.

    6.1.2.1

    The continuous operating time shall be measured with all permissible TI BASIC mode current-drawingfunctions listed under Section 6.4 , as well as all manufacturer background systems activated.

    6.1.3

    All power sources consisting of battery cells and battery packs shall be certified by a nationallyrecognized testing laboratory (NRTL) to the regulations outlined in UL 1642, Standard for LithiumBatteries ; UL 2054, Standard for Household and Commercial Batteries ; or IEC 62133 Safetyrequirements for portable sealed secondary cells, and for batteries made from them, for use in portableapplications.

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    CommitteeStatement:

    In 6.1.2, the technical committee is specifying environmental conditions for this requirement.

    In 6.1.2.1, the committee is clarifying that passive functions such as automatic background videoand image recording may reduce the running time of the thermal imager preventing it from offeringthe required 120 minutes minimum of operating time.

    The committee is moving the Annex text A.6.1.2 moved to the body of the standard as a new6.1.3.

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

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    Tarver, Gerry W.

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  • First Revision No. 19-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 6.1.3 ]

    6.1.5 Minimum Video Refresh Rate.

    All thermal imagers shall have a minimum video refresh rate of 25 frames per second in both thedetector and the display.

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    The technical committee observed that the original intent of the document was to require videorefresh rates of 30Hz or higher. This was discussed and included in the earlier drafts of the standardunder development, but was not included in the final version. A low refresh rate camera will pass theNFPA 1801 image quality tests since all the NFPA testing is done on static images. A refresh rate ofless than 30Hz can make navigation more difficult and may lead to firefighter disorientation.

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

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    Tarver, Gerry W.

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  • First Revision No. 5-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.4 ]

    6.1.6

    All operational selection devices, including but not limited to switches, card readers, and keys, shall berated for a service life of not less than 50,000 cycles.

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    Committee Statement: The technical committee is providing clarification in section 6.1.6 of service life.Response Message:

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

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  • First Revision No. 32-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.5 ]

    6.1.7

    All operational selection devices shall be designed to prevent unintentional activation, deactivation,impact damage, and change of operation.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 17:10:47 EDT 2015

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    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is adding here the impact damage requirement from the nowdeleted 6.2.6.

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • First Revision No. 31-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.6 ]

    6.1.8

    All operational selection devices shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used forthis function test shall be constructed of American cowhide and include a PTFE moisture barrier, shall beproperly sized according to the manufacturer and in size large, and shall be certified as compliant with thestructural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971, Standard on Protective Ensembles forStructural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting .

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 15:02:19 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    Committee Statement: The technical committee believes that a less dextrous glove will provide for a better test.Response Message:

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

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  • First Revision No. 16-NFPA 1801-2015 [ New Section after 6.1.7 ]

    6.1.10

    Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipmentfor Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions 1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations ,and shall meet the design (construction) requirements for at least Class I, Division 2, Groups C and Dand Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with a temperature class of T3through T6 inclusive.

    Submitter Information Verification

    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 09:28:36 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee believes that there are three key aspects to this proposed newrequirement.

    1) The added is text similar to 7.1.4 as a new paragraph under 6.1 on Design requirements. Thefocus of this new requirement is compliance with the design (construction) requirements fromANSI/ISA 12.12.01. The rationale for this is because compliance with ANSI/ISA-12.12.01 includesrequirements for design (construction) in addition to performance requirements. Without the additionof this new paragraph, NFPA 1801 could be mistakenly assumed to only require compliance with theperformance requirements in ANSI/ISA-12.12.01.

    2) The referenced Division 2 certification requirements have been expanded to include Class II,Division 2, Groups F and G, in addition to the existing Class I, Division 2 requirements. The rationalefor this is because exposure to Class II explosive dust atmospheres (such as coal, carbon black,charcoal, coke, flour, grain, wood, and plastic dusts) is a concern for this equipment, in addition toexposure to Class I explosive gas atmospheres. Compliance with such Class II, Division 2requirements mostly involves use of a NEMA Type 12 or better enclosure.

    3) A reference is included to the T3 and T4 temperature classifications between T3 and T6 that havesuffixes, in addition to the existing reference to T3, T4, T5 and T6. The rationale for this is becauseT3A, T3B, T3C and T4A are permitted temperature classifications between T3 and T6 in bothANSI/ISA-12.12.01 and in the NEC.

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    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

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    Chavez, Louis

    The following changes need to be made to be consistent with the wording of 7.1.4 - "6.1.10 Thermal imagers shallbe listed to ANSI/ISA-12.12.01,....." versus existing text - 6.1.10 Thermal imagers shall be tested for listing toANSI/ISA-12.12.01, Nonincendive Electrical Equipment for Use in Class I and II, Division 2 and Class III, Divisions1 and 2 Hazardous (Classified) Locations, and shall meet the design (construction) requirements for at least ClassI, Division 2, Groups C and D and Class II, Division 2, Groups F and G hazardous locations, and with atemperature class of T3 through T6 inclusive.

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  • First Revision No. 20-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.1.7 ]

    6.1.9.1

    Methods of attachment shall not obstruct the operator's view of the display or the camera's field of viewwhen held in the viewing position as stated by the manufacturer.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:43:29 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    NFPA 1801 requires that the thermal imager shall be provided with a method of attaching thethermal imager to the user, and the method of attachment shall not degrade the function orperformance of the thermal imager but nowhere in the standard is a test conducted for this.

    It is important to have have the requirement in 6.1.9 as most thermal imagers are intended to beattached to the user, possibly by a retractable lanyard or strap rather than to just be hand held. It isunderstood that there are several methods of attachment and it would be counterproductive to theprocess to have a manufacturer submit all specimens with all the attachment variations for all thetesting. It is recommended that each means of attachment that a manufacturer offers be provided tothe testing lab and that the testing lab simply attach them to the thermal imager as intended and thento the person to determine if either the attachment point on the thermal imager and/or the method ofattachment degrades the function or performance of the thermal imager.

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    Townsend, Steven D.

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

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  • First Revision No. 21-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]

    ]

    The thermal imager shall have a power–on/off button that cycles the thermal imager’s power. Thepower power–on/off button shall be located in an easily accessible area of the thermal imager.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:46:16 EDT 2015

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    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is providing this change for consistency of terminology throughoutthe document.

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    Agi, Kamil

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    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

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    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

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  • First Revision No. 30-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.1.1 ]

    6.2.1.1

    The power–on/off button shall be capable of being switched by a gloved hand. The gloves used for thisfunction test shall comply with structural fire-fighting glove requirements of NFPA 1971 , Standard onProtective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting .

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:58:09 EDT 2015

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    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is deleting this requirement for the power-button because it isredundant with Section 6.1.6 on operational selection devices.

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

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  • First Revision No. 22-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.2 ]

    6.2.2

    The power power–on/off button shall be green in color. No other button(s) on the outside of the thermalimager shall be green in color.

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    The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminologythroughout the standard.

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    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

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  • First Revision No. 23-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.3 ]

    6.2.3

    The power−on/off button shall only turn the thermal imager “on,” turn the thermal imager “off,” and revertthe thermal imager to the TI BASIC operational format from TI BASIC PLUS operational format.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:47:51 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminologythroughout the standard.

    ResponseMessage:

    Public Input No. 59-NFPA 1801-2015 [Section No. 6.2.3]

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    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

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  • Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 24-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]

    ]

    Where the power power–on/off button is used to power up the thermal imager, the power-on process shallrequire the power button to be pressed and held for no more than 1 second.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:48:14 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminologythroughout the standard.

    ResponseMessage:

    Public Input No. 60-NFPA 1801-2015 [Section No. 6.2.5 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

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    Allen, Jason L.

    Berger, Joel E.

    Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

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    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.

    Sletmoe, Gordon R.

    Spoons, Christina

    Tarver, Gerry W.

    Varner, Bruce H.

    Velo, Jose L.

    Weinstein, Steven H.

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  • First Revision No. 25-NFPA 1801-2015 [ Section No. 6.2.5.2 ]

    6.2.5.2

    Both the power power–on/off button activation and the automatic activation shall present a useful thermalimage with all the icons required in the TI BASIC operational format on the display in 60 30 seconds orless.

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    Submitter Full Name: Dave TrebisacciOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Jul 22 14:48:32 EDT 2015

    Committee Statement

    CommitteeStatement:

    The technical committee is providing this change to maintain consistency in terminologythroughout the standard.

    The TC believes that the time of 60 seconds was originally allocated for older technology (BST)thermal imagers that required a "warm up/start up" time. The BST technology is no longermanufactured.

    The TC believes that as the use of thermal imagers becomes more user-friendly through trainingand simplification of use as permitted by this standard, the presentation of a useful image on thedisplay and the icons required by the TI Basic Operational Format should not be longer than 30seconds.

    ResponseMessage:

    Public Input No. 61-NFPA 1801-2015 [Section No. 6.2.5.2]

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  • Facella, John A.

    Helvin, Jeff

    Makky, Sr., Steven J.

    Shannon, Matthew

    Townsend, Steven D.

    Wolf, Timothy W.

    Worrell, Mike

    Affirmative All

    Agi, Kamil

    Athanas, Robert J.

    Bowyer, Matt E.

    Busa, Matthew David

    Chavez, Louis

    Donnelly, Michelle

    Forsyth, William

    Haase, Wayne C.

    Haskell, III, William E.

    Hogg, Simon

    Hull, Jeffrey L.

    Hussey, Michael C.

    Jarboe, John

    Katz, Richard

    Lasa, Santiago

    Little, David A.

    Martens, Brian A.

    McKenna, Michael F.

    Sanders, Stephen R.