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CCFCHURCH CHAT VII

PICKLE JUICE

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Eze 18:1-4 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying, WHAT MEAN YE, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten SOUR GRAPES, and the children's teeth are set on edge? As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this PROVERB in Israel. Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

(Jer 31:29-31 is the same reference from a contemporary)

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”WHAT MEAN YE” is a question about a topic that warrants our attention. Mainly, because it is the Lord who is asking this question. As always, God never asks a question because he doesn’t know the answer. His intention is to stir the questionee to think about the meaning and the motive for their lack of understanding. I will attempt to shew a correlation to this proverb and Pickle Juice. Briefly,

The acidic brine for Pickle Juice comes from the vinegar of

SOUR GRAPES

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SOUR is a word referenced five times in the bible. Each time by God. Not surprising since he created all five senses.

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Sour is one of the five basic tastes the tongue is

stimulated by, and perceives.

Sweet Salty Bitter

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Sour (and of course) Umami

Maybe ask

U-Mammi

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HAPPY U-MAMMI’S DAY

from all of us to all of you

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Today we want to focus on the one flavor, SOUR.

Are you ready?------Are you sure?

OK,we will be looking in particular at the phrase SOUR GRAPE(S). It is found four times in the bible, and always spoken of by God.

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The first mention of this phrase is in Isaiah 18. It is an important frame of reference to remember. In the bible, the phrase SOUR GRAPES is a natural occurring taste associated with a time that occurs RIGHT BEFORE HARVEST. MeThinks that it has something to do with resurrection!!! From Isaiah to Ezekiel, this phrase ferments over time and changes into vinegar.

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Isa 18:4,5 For so the LORD said unto me,…For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect,and the SOUR GRAPE is ripening in the flower,

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The first mention of Sour Grapes is a reference that indicates a HARVEST IS COMING SOON. Methinks still

“harvest has to do with resurrection”. 1 Cor 15 Christ is said to be the firstfruits of the harvest PTL!

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However when the Lord speaks to Ezekiel and Jeremiah about Sour Grapes, the Jewish people in exile are not thinking of resurrection joy. They are confused and wanting to interpret their dire circumstances as being TRAPPED and In-A-PICKLE. But really,

they are avoiding

personal responsibility.

They are blame-gamin.

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When someone has a problem they can’t escape, they are said to be “In a Pickle”! It’s a bummer circumstance! Cp.

Playing Baseball or when Feeling Trapped

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There are those who drink and advocate pickle juice for health reasons. Everybody loves pickles, NP

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Over-dill

We all know

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but…the idiom of Pickle Juice implies being saturated in a sourball predicament. Whence did the concept originate?

Back in Shakespeare's time; “How camest thou in this pickle?” Says Alonso to his fellow-conspirator the tempest 5.1-Whence? Since the discovery of Pickle Juice!

Back in Ezekiel and Jeremiah’s time;

The acidic brine for Pickle Juice comes from the vinegar of

SOUR GRAPES

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So, what does “What Mean Ye” Actually Mean?

The common people saw no hope in their circumstances. 605 BC Babylon had put them under a siege-three waves of captivity-Israel was in total bondage-the temple was destroyed-and many people died. God was gone?-bible prophecy was dead?-hope of a harvest resurrection was a fancy? Years have gone by and the only comfort they had was to be comforted with what became a half true proverb: “The fathers have eaten SOUR GRAPES, and the children's teeth are set on edge?” (What mean ye)

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Slaves in Babylon was bad but even worse, they became Slaves in their Mind

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We are all just VICTIM Pickles in a Pickle Jar saturated in

PICKLE JUICE

We are helpless victims of someone else’s wrong doing!

What does a grape do when it is Pickle Juice will get YE

squeezed? thinking

(senihw ti) (back-weirds)

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VICTIMIZATION IS THE SOUR CHAINS IN THE MIND OFPICKLE JUICE

But no one has to remain in bondage to their past-in the present. Gospel truth can and will always proclaim liberty

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What mean YE-the question is meant for YE to question YE!

My daddy was an alcoholic and my granddaddy was an alcoholic so I’m gonna be an alcoholic-my parents cuss my friends cuss so I’m gonna cuss-Adam sinned and I’m a child of Adam so I can’t stop sinnin-I was abused so I’m gonnaabuse-I was hurt in a relationship so I will never love again-I

was a SLAVE so I am gonna be a slave forever-

VICTIMIZATION IS LIKE ACIDIC

PICKLE JUICE

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The Blame Game is a favorite New Year game. It is also a

classic sinical sinner’s favorite. You just a have to push the point button and you are instantly deceived into believing you have NO GUILT-NO RESPONSIBILITY-NO ACCOUNTABILITY-NO JUDGEMENT-NO SIN (really easy)

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So, It started with just two human beings on the entire planet SIN!!! Gen 3 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavestto be with me…And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me…Ex 32 And Aaron said-Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf…Lam 5 Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities.…You look like a hypocritical cartoon…. But then,

THE SERPENT SAID YEA HATH GOD SAIDVICTIMIZATION’S FINAL FINGER POINTING

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It’s all your fault GOD!!!

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my sister-my brother-my mom (except on UMAMMIS day)-my dad-my teacher-my X-my boss-my dog-my friend/I thought-my preacher-my doctor-my lawyer-my president-my genes-my car battery-my check account-my INABILITY TO LET GO OF BLAMING OTHERS-is it really-my UNWILLINGNESS TO LET GO OF BLAMING OTHERS-is my real problem my personal accountability to God-IT’S HIS FAULT-HE MADE ME HE’S MY-MY-MY-MY-MY my LORD and my GOD. PICKLE JUICE WILL MAKE YOU SOUR ON GOD

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Hos 4:17,18 Ephraim is joined to IDOLS: let him alone.

THEIR DRINK is SOUR: they have committed whoredom continually: her rulers with shame do love, Give ye.

(Complacent and conditioned to expecting more, more)

Southern Judah became no different than Northern Israel 150+ years earlier. Have Christians become as dependent on MYSTERY BABYLON as the Jews of the OT on Babylon?

PICKLE JUICE

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2020 Is this the Christian gospel in the good ole’ US-of-A

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Without doubt the pickle doesn’t fall far from the tree. Bible slap-”No man liveth to HIMSELF and no man diethto HIMSELF”(slap slap) “every man shall give account of HIMSELF to God”

NOT EVERY PICKLE IS TRUE

Some are in it for the

Pickle Parade. What victim

column can I march in.

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“As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”

***** This is NOT about VICTIMS who have been *****

treated wrongly and unfairly in SO many many ways. God desires every soul to understand Sour Grapes are a part of nature. BEWARE-INABILITY TO INTERPRET SOUR GRAPES

Laodicean Pickle Juice is an emotional sign of the time

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VICTIMIZATION IS THE SOUR REALITY OF

PICKLE JUICE

Society is unfair/Life is unfair/Abuses are unfair/ God is NOT unfair/The Gospel is even fairer than fair-FAIREST

The gospel is not supposed to be politically correct or cater to the whims of any generation or to make you prettier-stronger-faster-richer-healthier-or to do anything other than SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM SIN AND DEATH AND HELL

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FAIREST Lord Jesus!Ruler of all nature!O Thou of God and man the Son!Thee will I cherish,Thee will I honor,Thou, my soul’s glory, joy, and crown!

I’ve found a friend in Jesus, He’s everything to me, He’s the FAIREST of ten thousand to my soul;The Lily of the Valley, in Him alone I see All I need to cleanse and make me fully whole.In sorrow He’s my comfort, in trouble He’s my stay; He tells me every care on Him to rollHe’s the Lily of the Valley, the Bright and Morning Star, He’s the FAIREST of ten thousand to my soul.

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Peter made it to a Union encampment in Baton Rouge in March 1863.After his escape from slavery, Peter exposed his scars during a medical examination. He became a soldier, to set others FREE!(NO TIME FOR PICKLE JUICE)

“Whipped Peter”changed the mind of all who BELIEVED him.

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The Apostle Pete CHANGES THE MIND OF ALL WHO BELIEVE HIM. “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious BLOOD of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:”

HE DIED THAT YE YE YE MIGHT BE FREE

(no time for pickle juice except to make it anew )

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John 19:28-30. After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I THIRST. Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a SPUNGE with VINEGAR, and put it upon HYSSOP, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the VINEGAR, he said, it is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

What a spunge to own for your very own!

The acidic brine for Pickle Juice comes from the VINEGAR of

SOUR GRAPES

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Ex 12:21,22 Draw out and take you a LAMB according to your families, and kill the passover. And ye shall take a bunch of HYSSOP, and dip it in the BLOOD that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason;

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For all of you victims out there. Somehow or another we are all victims in this sin cursed world. But forbid any

Victimization short of CALVARY

PICKLE JUICE

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They say the HEART acts like a spunge taking in the pain

and hurt and putting out the love and hope.

BEAT AFTER BEAT AFTER BEAT-ONE BEAT AT A TIME

Purge me with HYSSOP, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice. Hide thy face from my sins,

and blot out all mine iniquities.

CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART, O God;

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WHAT MEAN YE

Jer 31:29,33 In those days they shall SAY NO MORE, The fathers have eaten a SOUR GRAPE, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the SOUR GRAPE, his teeth shall be set on edge… But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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WHAT MEAN YE

Aesop’s Fable tells the story of the fox and the sour grapes…cp. this fable truth to the Christian who is unable to attain the new wine from the gospel tree.

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HOPE-FULLY, somewhere in the audience today is a spungefilled heart waiting to squeeze their sin accountability on Christ ANEW, and to receive ANEW the imprint kiss of his love. At the cross, JESUS turned Old Sour Wine into New; with a K-I-S-S

You Ask Me How I KNOW He Lives-He Lives Within My_ _ _ _ _