bill packet 18th congress, oct. 4, 2010

8/8/2019 Bill Packet 18th Congress, Oct. 4, 2010

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EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS OF GRADUATE STUDENTSEIGHTEENTH CONGRESS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS

Regular Assembly MeetingCOGS Assembly Room

Room, 250 Student Life BuildingOctober 1, 2010

6:30 p.m.

AgendaCall to Order

Pledge of Allegiance

Roll Call

Approval of the Minutes from September 13, 2010

Messages from Student Government

Student Comments

Special Introductions

Dave Rothenberg- Friends of Internationals Program

Petitions Into the Assembly

The Report of the Speaker

Senate Budget for Fiscal Year 2011

COGS Budget for FY 2011

The Report of the Deputy Speaker for Finance

Committee ReportCSAC Report

Ways & Means Academics & Student Life

Internal Affairs

Funding Requests

Bill 46- On Petition- Society of Musicology

Bill 47- On Petition- Student Association for Religious Studies

Old Business

New Business

Bill 45- Sponsored by Rep. Straub- An allocation of $3,800.00 for the NAGPS Conference

Bill 48- Sponsored by Rep. Wollenschlager- An amendment to the COGS Code to adjust attendancerequirements

Resolution 11- Sponsored by Rep. Grimes- A rule change to require that certain amendments be submitted in tothe COGS program assistant in writing prior to adoption by the Assembly

Roundtable

Final Roll Call

Adjournment

Next Meeting- Waiver of Rules: Monday October 18th, 2010 at 6:30PM in the COGS Chambers


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Report of the Deputy Speaker for Finance18th Congress of Graduate Students

September 13, 2010

COGS Administrative $99,492.25

COGS Unallocated $37,366.00

COGS Organizational Support $5,000.00

COGS Presentation Grants Left for year - $119,656.07

Carry Forward - $21,200 with

$9,200.00 encumbered

$8,411.66 paid

$3,588.34 being held for Sweepings

July-October $60,000.00


$5,934.30 paid

$16,067.73 remaining

Nov-Feb - $70,000.00

Mar-Jun - $30,000.00

COGS Conference Travel Left for year - $13,500.00

Carry Forward $ $3,300.00


$1,400 paid

July-October $ 8,000.00


$200 paid

Nov-Feb - $7,000.00

Mar-Jun - $5,000.00

Accurate numbers not available at time of publication;update will be included at Mondays meeting

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EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS OF GRADUATE STUDENTSEIGHTEENTH CONGRESS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS

MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSIONCOGS Assembly Room

Room 250 Student Life BuildingSeptember 13, 2010

6:30 p.m.

REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Adams, Ardis, Blair, Fredericks, Glazier, Grimes, Lieberwirth, Manojlovic,Ramirez, Straub, Taylor, Tazaz, Warren, Weber, Worrall, Zain

QUORUM: Yes.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Blair

REPRESENTATIVES LEFT EARLY, EXCUSED: Adams

REPRESENTATIVES LEFT EARLY, UNEXCUSED:

REPRESENTATIVES ABSENT, EXCUSED: Englehardt, Fleugel, Metka, Ma, Myers

REPRESENATIVES ABSENT, UNEXCUSED: Arispe, DeSantis, Hensarling, Iniguez, McKay, Wesighan

REPRESENTATIVES LATE, EXCUSED:

REPRESENTATIVES LATE, UNEXCUSED: Johnson

INTRODUCTIONS:

SPECIAL INTRODUCTIONS:

MINUTES APPROVED: Motion to approve, seconded, approved without exceptionAugust 16, 2010

PETITIONING IN:

Hans Rasch School of Visual Arts, Theatre, & Dance Marc Wollenschlaeger ED Higher Ed Megan Schwab ED Higher Ed Cherry Hagens Visual Arts, Theatre and Dance

SPEAKERS REPORT:

Bill 40 Vetoed by Vice-President Coburn Would have removed RSOs from our nondiscriminationclause and substituted. The General Consule did not say it was illegal but that it might lead toproblems. Check comment section. Asked Chairwoman Blair was asked to look into

Report on Non-discrimination Changes by Ways & Means Committee Alumni Village Childcare Facilities say Thank You! New blocks are great, I played with them. The

kids sent us a card. If you want a tour of the facilities let me know. Lieberwirth: asked how many kids are served. Ex-Officio Seat on Senate Budget Committee/Senate Budget Proposal COGS get an ex-officio

seat on that committee. If you want to serve on the dates Speaker Grimes has, come talk to me.

DEPUTY SPEAKER FOR FINANCES REPORT:

Get from Agenda

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COMMITTEE REPORTS:

C-SAC not met received no requests yet but a couple are in the works

Ways & Means havent met since last meeting Meeting Sept 16 at the Panera Bread at OcalaCorners

Academics & Student Life resolution 9 is submitted

Internal Affairs half of committee not here. Looking for members.

FUNDING REQUESTS:

OLD BUSINESS:Bill 39 Amendment Preserving Representation Lieberwirth Save the trees dont print this again untilwe find it will be considered. Seconded, No objection. Passed

Resolution 9 Sponsored by Academics & Student Life Committee Regarding Insurance Deadlines OPENING STATEMENT Weber last time our debate was wide ranging but only needs to addressthe limits of when you must purchase FSUs insurance QUESTIONS

Were there any new questions created from discussion from Dir Sacher? We are trying to urge thesystem to move the deadline closer to class dates so to give us a chance to find competitive quotes.

Can you explain further how this came about? For the insurance purchase you must indicate that

you wish to get it as early as spring for fall coverage. The effort was to move the proof of insurance nofurther out than 30 days. Sacher said you could agree to purchase but cancel if you found a better policylater within 30 days.

Zain: Is this legal to pigeon hole graduate students in the way of fair competition?

Grimes: Cannot comment, law schoolprevents students from commenting on legal issues becauseit can prevent your acceptance with the Florida Bar

PRO: Glazier: Thinks a good idea, could recruit some extra help rather than threaten to drop you for lackof proof of insurance. Straub: In expressing our opinion for this to occur, this may start the ball rolling to accomplish this. CON: Tazaz: the system as it is set up, we get the best rates, if the students not offering proof ofinsurance, get dropped, forces the university to open new registration window. May create problems. PRO Glazier move to call the question, second, no objection CLOSING Vote for the bill. Ayes do have it,

NEW BUSINESS:Bill 42 Jarrod Fredericks acting chair

OPENING STATEMENT - Grimes: There is a conflict between COGS and LSC what kind of things

could be vetoed, what the rules were, and it created the atmosphere for the creation of 42. This wouldpreclude people from serving on both LSC and the COGS Exec Board. Makes clear the SPEAKER andDEP SPEAKER must concur on Vetoes. With automatic pass if no action is taken within 10 days. If it isvetoed, it goes back to LSC and if LSC signs it, it comes back to us.

QUESTIONS

Blair: Can you please tell me who was there? myself, Chairwoman of LSC

Glazier: Has LSC discussed this yet? Dont know if it has yet?

Taylor: Anyone else here from LSC? Glazier. Can you explain your due diligence in discussing thiswith LSC? I dont. I am very much committed to letting each organization have its independence.

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Blair: Would you say whose Idea it was? As a result of an angry email, things got so bad, I asked for fulland complete disclosure.

Worrall: Andrew, were you present at this meeting? No but was unhappy with the way it was scheduled.Our last meeting was before this incident.

EXTENDED QUESTIONS;

Ardis: Who was it that would be impeached? Not germaine.

Blair: Back to separation of major offices. Do you think there is a difference in the Speaker/DeputySpeaker for Finance and the Dep Speakers for Comm and Judicial Affairs? No. Each of the officershave served temporary duty as Speaker.

Taylor: What is Brittanys opinion of the bill? Liked it, in favor of separation.

Taylor: Do think this will help or hinder? Should we try to work it out together or do this on our own? Iwouldnt have filed a bill that would have harmed our two organizations. To a certain extent, I likeworking together, but this became really ugly.

Worrall: Your position is that we dont need to wait for them but make the changes because they areunder our jurisdiction.

Tazaz: If this passes, how quickly will this come about in regard to the elections? It can be worked out.

MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 5 MINUTES Seconded

Blair: Do you think it wise to include all of Exec board but not all of COGS members? I think thedistinction is not to include people who will not serve as Speaker.

Taylor: How would we get around the Andrew issue? Add a clause that exempts anyone who is servingcurrently on both committees.

Tazaz: How will this effect MSC? Would not be a problem since both operate on wildly differentschemes.

PRO CON Straub: I feel it should be amended to include all funding boards so they all have similar provisions. Glazier: I dont think this solves the problems that actually occurred. LSC hasnt discussed this and

should have the right to be involved in discussing the methods used to resolve the issue. I would like tohave LSC here, should be here and will alienate LSC from COGS.

Ardis: This was LSCs idea to write this bill. I tried to send it to Brittany and it has been posted on linesince Friday. I have had no response from her. PRO Worrall: Responding to Quinn, it would ideal if these rules apply to all groups, but takes nothing away

from what we are trying to accomplish. Taylor: Would like to see it apply to all. Sometimes good things come out of bad things. LSC is

unorganized. We gave them a huge budget based on faith in spite of no feedback from all theirorganizations. Makes it clear how we will deal with them. I understand the reluctance to confirm thiswithout their input.

CON Glazier: Dont punish LSC. We did not know the bill was going to be moved forward, we havent been

informed by our Chairperson. This will be seen by LSC as COGS imposing our standards on LSC withno input. No one there were persons involved in the original conflict. Move to table bill until LSC is here.

Seconded. Objected. Glazier: I am not able to represent all of LSC.

Grimes: Did you read this before you came? Yes When? Friday. Did you tell LSC about this? No

Worrall: (commented, did not get what was said) Hans: (commented, did not get what was said) Taylor: Are you telling me you didnt have any meeting on this?

Worrall: Explain structure of LSC 7 members, chair, deputy chair/secretary/treasurer.

PRO Blair: I was reluctantly drawn into this affair, should be more communication, more time taken to discuss

this. It would bar me from service. Like to see parity across the funding boards and consult MSC.

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CON Grimes: I think its silly to be held hostage to creations of ours. I am uncomfortable with that. Zain: People could have been notified, email, communications being what they are. Ardis: Encourage MSC and LSC to be a part of the communication.

Worrall: Question to Andrew, Why have you havent notified LSC. I assumed I would come and table itso LSC could speak to the issue. I didnt realize Brittany has been notified.

Third round of PRO Glazier: I feel the VETO side solves the issues ARDIS Motion to make amendment to exempt current member who hold a seat in both capacity. Glazier: My LSC seat will expire in the fall. PRO; Taylor: Lack of communication is what defines LSC during the entire time I have been here. This is not

punitive nor comes as a surprise. Have had three months to discuss. Worrall: I like the bill like the provisions, concerned about how little LSc knows what is going on. Better

to pass this and amend it as needed. CON Blair: Section F. There is a line of succession and we may have issues with the unlikelihood of the

chairpersons being involved. I would like to strike section F. Think about it and talk to LSC.

Taylor: Objection: Blair: Havent yet made an amendment. Want to check with a Move to strike section F. Second. Objection OPENING Statement: Blair: I have made my opinion Questions: PRO CON Straub: Striking F has no bearing on anything now. Grimes: Important to the LSC. They brought it up. I want to stick to the agreement that I made with

them. Taylor: Address the potential conflict of interest. Manojlovic: Always the same two people in CON

2nd round of PRO

Worrall Move to call the question. Seconded. No objection. CLOSING Blair: It takes less to deal with the issue now 50% versus later 66%. Amendment concerning Section F. fails. Amendment to add language to Section F so that it includes those in the line of succession for Speaker

or deputy speaker for Finance. QUESTIONS How would this involve current members? Zain Where does the line of succession end. PRO Straub: This does complete the statement. CON Taylor: In terms of conflict of interest, the maximum time that could be 13 days. Grimes: Committee chairpeople dont really have a large sphere of influence, not comfortable pushing

this further than that LSC has been agreed to. PRO Taylor: Motion to call the question. Seconded. Blair: Reiterate that there is the same conflict of interest. All have the same opportunity to be a

signatory. We made a line of succession so that we covered all our bases. And even though LSCdoesnt know about the LofS, it should be addresses.

Nays have it.

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FINAL STATEMENT Grimes: Apologize to Glazier for the earlier Sets the wrong precedent is to say it got so bad that

impeachment was threatened, and we cant do anything until we all get together and sing Kumbaya.This body would not exist without COGS , it keeps them in the loop, gives them more powers and adirect set of directions.

Ayes have it.

Bill 44 OPENING We enjoy have you all here and we feel there is 164 graduate students at the Panama City Campus. I

have experience with a satellite campus and there are different needs for those students. I want to makeit so that either a past or present graduate student from the Panama City Campus. We felt we have somuch problems with the Senate recognizing the special needs of

QUESTIONSRamirez: When you mention previous graduate program, what do you have in mind. Looking at recentstudents in the graduate program from Panama CityWorrallTaylor: How many programs are represented. 10-12 seats.Ardis: Would they have to drive in? Thats why we added the currently or previously enrolled in

Ardis: How would we empower them if they were there and had to drive in every 2 weeks? Can we providetelecommunications? We can look into it.Wollenschlaeger: Does this make it so they must be a current FSU student.Fredericks: In favor of this, but add amendment that adds the phrase within the last two years.

PROArdis: Does the language actually encourage joining the body as a member?

Taylor: Did you think about the online degrees?Johnson: College of Information and Communication has a complete program that is on line. Do I think Iwould come in 2 hours every other week?Manojlovic: Good idea.Taylor: Some programs that are extent from the university are in jeopardy and this would help give them a

platform and involve them in the FSU campus.CONJohnson; This is just one seat? Yes but could alsoHagens: What advantage is it to give a seat for just the campus when there are empty seats that they mightalready fill? Makes sure they can a voice heard.Taylor: One concern with the previously enrolled student. Doesnt say they must be in the same degreeprogram. Would this be okay?PROWorrall: What seats are also Advocate seats.Schwab: Response to Taylor. This seat would be to advocate for the entire Panama City campus not just adegree.Tazaz: For those students who were previously enrolled, will we ask for a transcript? If the student lives inPanama City, but has classes here?Rausch: In regard to other satellite campus, do we have any other satellite campuses represented?

Tazaz: Remove previously enrolled from condition from the requirements.Second and objection.OPENINGIf a student who lives in PC but whose classes are only offered in Tallahassee its unfair to offer that seatBlair: Do you think that someone who lives in PC can fairly represent those students who are attending thePC campus? I dont think someone who hasnt been there in 2 years has a feel for what is going on in PC atthat time.PROFredericks: I would prefer to address the language to ensure it is just students attendingWarren: Do you think they would be working against it?

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Ramirez: I think they must be engaged with the PC campus.CONGlazier: I would hope that they wouldnt actively undermine the PC Campus. I understand and hope thatthey be actively engaged and know people that are still there. It would also be easier to get someone herethat still has the connections necessaryWeber: I think we are encouraging students to join, and restricting the requirements makes it harder.Manojlovic: One student could represent PC Campus if they have connections moreso than someone who

just lives there with no connections.Tazaz: Amendment to amendment; Change back to original wording, but add in the additional wording thatthey must be actively engaged in Panama City campus.Straub: How do we ask active? We dontWollenschlaegel: Enrollment doesnt make you active.Tazaz: Might be active in campus, but want to ensure a commitment toBlair: For those who hold different seats for program,Tazaz: May I withdraw the second amendment.WithdrawnGrimes: 3 minute recessSecond:ObjectionBack to first Tazaz AmendmentCONSchwab: More important to ensure there is a rep for PC Campus. Even if they have been away two years,they still have more experience than someone who hasnt been there.PROJohnson: If I have been away from a campus 2 years, it can change a great deal.CONBlair: I think that its more realistic to expect a student that just came here from PC Campus has an interestin representingTazaz: Want to make sure that it isnt someone who just is filling a seat because their colleges seats are full.Better to be represented by someone who even just lives thereArdis: I want my name there.Vote to strike the amendment.CLOSINGI dont think its as cool as it was but its still a necessary bill and pretty good. Should make PC Campus feelmore welcome.

The ayes have it.Fredericks: Were there any abstentions? No. Passed unanimously.

Tazaz: Time: 9:29Grimes: Any objection to extending the session until done? No. Extended.

Resolution 10Fredericks speaker pro temporeGrimes: A long time ago, LSC and MSC spent too much on clothing and awards. Right now, I think thefunding boards have enough oversight and COGS oversight that MSC and LSC should be given theStraub: Why is this a resolution and not a bill? Because the proviso did nt come from a bill and is correctedby a resolution.Zain: If you are in LSC or MSC you cant get money from LSC or MSC for Clothing and Awards and get it

from COGS instead which takes it out of the COGS Unallocated or C-SAC.budget. Tazaz said that we turndown RSOs who are asking for this.Grimes: I would like a clear policy, Either Blanket yes or no.PRO Dont like the wording even though I dont really approve the purchase.Taylor: Its not true that LSC has been responsible funding board. Our financial manual states that awardscan be purchased if


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CONWorrall: Remove the clause that removes the third whereas. Fails for lack of second.Taylor: The rationale that just because we havent done it doesnt mean it shouldnt doesnt hold water.We havent been funding shirts because of fiscal responsibility to create more funds.PROGlazier: Forget it.Schwab: POI _ We are just giving them the opportunity to ask for it, just not approving it.

Taylor: But it isnt that we decide, the funding board decides.Grimes: But COGS speaker of deputy speaker must sign off on it.Tazaz: Say this passes, and tomorrow an RSO comes and asks for $800 for shirts. Would the 10 day passand it goes without signature.Worrall: Dont like how LSC has demonstrated responsible is there.Lieberwirth: Why did you include it?Grimes: Because they have been doing the things we asked them to do.Taylor: This would create a double standard where LSC and MSC are concerned.Johnson: We always ask what they are doing to raise money.Grimes: The Financial Manual is a lie. Money that would have normally come from LSC and MSC now hasto come from COGS Organizational Support/COGS Unallocated. I think it is dreadfully unfair for this to affectMSC and the one instance where weThe proviso language is horribly unfair one way or another.The Ayes have it.

ROUNDTABLE:Miles: Im the advisor for COGS. You are on a push to establish yourself. I saw a lot of giggling; you shouldprobably have more respect. You should have probably a bill review panel. 48 hours over the weekend isntenough time. You should consider a reasonable deadline and that should make our meetings shorter.Dobiyanski: Look forward to working with you.Ardis: Welcome to COGS.Tazaz: The Earth, Ocean, Atmospheric Sciences is holding a run. Come along. Carnival at the REZ iscoming in October.Johnson: I have my first publication, next summer!Ramirez: There will be a meeting where everyone can practice their Spanish. Does anyone want to walktogether to the diner or need a ride to their car. Im right over at the diner and can take people to their car.Fredericks. Bimonthly movie round up. White Stripe, open mike, Splice , Robocop, Psycho, McGruber, the

Blues Brothers, museum of Fl history. Art for and photographs from NASA. Forbidden Planet. Attended byStar Wars conventioneers.Glazier: Law school is as crazy as ever.Blair: No one is ALLOWED to walk by themselves. Ways & Means Committee Thursday the 16th PaneraBread 6pmLieberwith: The WAVERosario: I put a Recycle bin in the back.Fredericks: I have personally tested 2 of the SafeLights.Grimes: Some things we have done regularly, but if you would like to codify these, that would be good.We are members in NAGPS, there is a meeting in Boston. If you would be interested in going, see me.Senate has this thing called digital voting. System costs a couple hundred.Manojlovic: it didnt work at med school.

FINAL ROLL CALL: Ardis, Blair, Fredericks, Glazier, Grimes, Hagens, Johnson, Lieberwirth, Manojlovic,Ramirez, Rasch, Schwab, Straub, Taylor, Tazaz, Warren, Weber, Wollenslaeger, Worrall, Zain

ADJOURNMENT: 10:20pm

NEXT MEETING: Monday October 4th at 6:30 PM in the COGS Chambers

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244 Student Life Building Tallahassee, FL 32306-4177 Phone: (850) 644-7166 Fax: (850) 644-1950

The 18th Congress of Graduate Students

BILL 46

On Petition

Allocation to Society of Musicology

On October 4th, 2010, the body voted to move and unspecified but finite amount to be

determined from COGS Unallocated 244-003 to the Society for Musicology.

Purpose: To be determined

_____________________________________________________

David Grimes Date Joyce Howard Date

Speaker of the House Director of Student Affairs

________________________________________________Quinn Straub Date Mary Coburn Date

Deputy Speaker for Finance Vice President for Student Affairs

4 October 2010

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BILL 47

On Petition

Allocation to the Student Association for Religious Studies

On October 4th, 2010, the body voted to move and unspecified but finite amount to be

determined from COGS Unallocated 244-003 to the Student Association for Religious Studies.

Purpose: To be determined

_____________________________________________________

David Grimes Date Joyce Howard Date

Speaker of the House Director of Student Affairs

________________________________________________Quinn Straub Date Mary Coburn Date


4 October 2010

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BILL 45

Sponsored by Representative Straub

Reallocating Funds for the NAGPS Conference at M.I.T.

On October 4, 2010, the body voted to move the following amount from the following account:

$3,800.00 from COGS Unallocated 244-003 to the COGS Expense Account 244-001

The purpose of this bill is to send four Representatives from the Congress to the National Association

of Graduate and Professional Student Conference at M.I.T. to receive training, relay best practices,

and evaluate Florida State Universitys continuing participation in NAGPS.

___________________ __________________________________David Grimes Joyce HowardSpeaker of the House Director of Student Affairs

___________________ _____________________________Quinn Straub Mary Coburn


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BILL 48

Sponsored by Representative Wollenschlaeger

Amendment to Number of Allowed Absences for COGS Reps

On October 4th, 2010, the body voted to amend Chapter 113 of the COGS Code governing attendance

requirements for members of the Congress of Graduate Students. The purpose of this bill is to

increase the number of allowable absences in consideration of the increased attendance expectations of

bimonthly meetings.

Be it enacted by the Congress:

113.1 A Seat shall be declared vacant and the Representative removed from membership in the

Assembly when:

A) A Representative has accumulated four (4) two (2) consecutive unexcused absences

from COGS Assembly or committee meetings, or

B) A Representative has accumulated eight (8) four (4) four excused absences from

COGS Assembly or committee meetings per semester, or Advocate.

Strikethrough indicates deletions, underlined items are additions.

___________________ __________________________________David Grimes Joyce HowardSpeaker of the House Director of Student Affairs

___________________ _____________________________Quinn Straub Mary Coburn


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Resolution 11Amending the COGS Internal Rules of Procedure

Sponsored by Representative Grimes

WHEREAS, the Student Body Constitution, Article IX, and COGS Code Section 110.1 both grant COGSthe power to create internal rules of procedure, and

WHEREAS, the COGS did on March 1, 2010 adopt such internal rules through Resolution 3, and

WHEREAS, Rule 1 of the COGS Internal Rules of Procedure states that the rules may be amended by a

two-thirds vote, and

WHEREAS, the efficiency and effectiveness of COGS will be greatly increased if the Program Assistant is

provided with written copies of substantial amendments,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE 18th CONGRESS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS, that the

Internal Rules of Procedure be amended to add the following rule:

23- All amendments to proposed legislation which are more than three words in length or include morethan an amendment to strike language must be provided in writing to the Program Assistant prior to

a vote of the Assembly.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a copy of this Resolution be sent to Dr. Joyce Howard, Ms. SandraMiles, and Ms. Vicki Dobyanski.

_______________________ ___ ______________________David Grimes Quinn StraubSpeaker of the House Deputy Speaker for Finance

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