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Page 1: Better Off Dead Rail? · Why there is no free lunch when stepping up Voltage. o A step-up or Voltage convertor takes a lower voltage and “boosts” it up o Common: 3.7V to 9V or
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WhatWhat is the concept of Dead Rail

o Dead Rail uses battery power instead of powered track

o Also known as Power on Board or Battery Powered Radio Control (BPRC)

o Battery can be situated in the locomotive, tender, B-unit, or in a trailing car

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WhyWhy would you be motivated to going Dead Rail

o Improve reliabilityo Smoother overall runningo Eliminate/simplify track wiringo Deemphasize track cleaningo Don’t want to invest in “old”

technology

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HowHow is Dead Rail accomplished

o Suitable locomotiveo Battery powero Battery charger/systemo Wireless RC transmittero RC receiver/decoder

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FactorsWhat factors make for the best match to Dead Rail

o Limited loco roster sizeo Not wedded to current systemo Open mind to alternativeso The S Scale advantage

o Size and Space

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CandidatesWhat makes a good candidate for Dead Rail

o Enough free space for the desired system

o Efficient DC can motoro Isolated frame

o Non-isolated uses frame for ground/negative

o Most modern locos are isolated

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BlockersWhich are poor candidates for Dead Rail

o Little to no free spaceo American Flyer original motor

or AC-only motoro Smoke and large, power

hungry speakers

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ButWhere there’s a will there’s a way

o If limited space, then consider trailing car or B-unit

o If AC motor, convert to DC can or new AC compatible systems

o If high power, use bigger battery

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RC-WhatWhat categories of RC systems are there

o Bluetootho Low energyo Multiple locos

o WiFio Direct: single loco o Router: multiple locos

o General RCo 900MHz and 2.4GHzo Some interoperability between

systems (TV, S-CAB, CVP)

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RC-WhoWho’s using what RC technology

o Bluetootho BlueRailo Lionel LionChief

o WiFio LocoFi

o General RC

o S-CABo CVPo Tam Valley

o Rail Proo DelTango Loco Genie

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Controllers-WhatWhat categories of controllers are there

o Handheldo Tactile button controls

o Hybrid handheld+toucho Some buttons, some touch

o Smart Appo Android or iOS smart deviceo Runs loco control appo Touchscreen controlso Connects direct to loco or via

WiFi router

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Controllers-Whoo Handheld:

o CVPo S-CABo DelTango Loco Genie

o Hybrid:o Rail Pro

o Smart App:o LocoFio BlueRail

Who’s using what type of controllers

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Batteries-1 CellWhat categories of batteries are there

o LiPo Single Cello Usually 3.7Vo Requires step-up convertor to 9

or 12Vo Step-up convertors only ~85-90%

efficient, so factor some losso The smaller the battery, the

higher the C-rate requiredo Easier to recharge

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Batteries-2PWhat categories of batteries are there

o LiPo Parallel Cellso Multiple 3.7V cells in parallelo 2-cells in parallel denoted as 2Po 2 cells double Amp Hourso Maintains same 3.7 Voltageo Requires step-up convertoro Same efficiency reduction as singleo Same requirement for higher Co Same ease of recharge

+ Cell 1 -

+ Cell 2 -

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Batteries-3SWhat categories of batteries are there

o LiPo Series Cellso Usually 3-cells in serieso 3-cell in series denoted as 3So Triple Voltage: 3.7x3 = 11.1Vo Maintains same Amp Hourso Fully efficient, no step-upo RC-type 3S usually require

balance chargingo Unbalanced 3S require high-

quality cells to maintain balanceo Doesn’t require high C-rate

+ Cell 1 -

+ Cell 2 -

+ Cell 3 -

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C-RateWhat is “C” in battery lingo

o C is the measure of the rate of battery charge or discharge

o Indicates highest “safe” rate

o Relative to Amp hours/capacityo Larger battery requires less C

o Example:o 500mAh 4C batteryo Rated to charge/discharge at up

to 2Ao 500mAh or .5A*4C=2A

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Step-UpWhy there is no free lunch when stepping up Voltage

o A step-up or Voltage convertor takes a lower voltage and “boosts” it up

o Common: 3.7V to 9V or 12V

o This does not come for free, as is only ~85-90% efficient

o The higher the difference between Voltage in and out, the lower the efficiency

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Step-Up-2How to compare two different battery topologies

o But is a 3.7V 1000mAh battery equivalent to a 3S 11.1V 1000mAh?

o No! First account for step-up loss, then divide by 3

o Example:o 1000 x 85% = 850mAho 850 / 3 = 283mAh

o So a 3.7V actually has ~3.5x lessusable energy than the same “1000mAh” rated 3S 11.1V battery

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DetractorsWhat limits running time with battery power

o Smaller batteryo Inefficient/large motoro Longer trainso Higher rolling resistance

wheelso Steeper gradeso Sharper curveso Larger speaker, smoke o No Thru-The-Rails charging

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ChargingWhat are the different methods of battery charging

o Removeo Requires removing the battery to

place on charger

o Plugo Accessible plug to connect charger

o Tracko Powered rails for systems like BPSo Charger connected to isolated

rails

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Charging-2What are the pros and cons of charging methods

o Removeo Pros: easy to replace, safesto Cons: must handle loco

o Plugo Pros: limited wiringo Cons: hard to hide, some

handling

o Tracko Pros: no handling, invisibleo Cons: extra wiring or electronics

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HybridWhat about hybrid vs. Dead Rail

o Hybrid battery power and track power

o Use track power on wired sections

o Some systems also charge on track power

o Requires some track to be powered

o Still must clean track

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Hybrid-2What about hybrid vs. Dead Rail

o Remove complicated wiring like turnouts and reverse loops

o Use smaller batteryo Example hybrid systems:

o BlueRailo S-CAB or any BPS powered

systemo LocoFi Amrit

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BPSWhat special about Stanton S-CAB BPS

o BPS or “Battery Power Supply”

o Hybrid battery or track power

o Allows use of simple single or parallel (2P) batteries

o Integrated step-up to 11V

o Charges battery through basic DC powered track (either polarity)

o Integrated on/off reed switches as well as function key off

o Latest BPS-v4 is modest size

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AmritWhat is coming with new LocoFi Amrit

o Hybrid battery or track powero Includes small 150mAh batteryo ~5 minutes of runningo Larger and longer running than

Keepero Smaller and shorter running

than most Dead Railo Eliminate some track wiring

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KeeperWhat about keep alive vs. Dead Rail

o Keep alive capacitors also allow for smoother running

o If used with RC system, won’t lose control

o Requires most track to be powered

o 3-20 seconds of running o Still must clean tracko Requires some added space

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LED LightingWhy are LEDs needed

o LED lights required for many modern systems

o Need to replace old grain-o-wheat bulbs with LED and resistorso Typically 3mm LEDo Confirm resistor specs

o Choice of color tempso Recommend warm white

o Use tint if LEDs too bright

o Will increase time for conversion

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Exmaple-1: BlueRailHow a BlueRail Dead Rail loco is put together

o SHS SW9 S Scale Switcher

o ¾” motor clearance

o 7/8” front strut clearance

o 3S 500mAh battery “butterflied” to extend over front strut and drive

o Switches under smoke stacks

o BlueRail board atop motor

o LED converted lights

Power On/Off SPST + Reed

Switch

Charger Power from Track

Charge On/Off SPST Switch

Battery400mA11.1V3-cell

BlueRail Board Battery Cell 2

Battery Cell 3Battery Cell 1

Power to Motor

Connector

BlueRail “Blue Horse”

Motor

Darby Marriott

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Exmaple-2: S-CABHow an S-CAB Dead Rail loco is put together

o SHS SW9 S Scale Switcher

o 2P 2000mah battery fits over front when plastic protrusions shaved off

o BPSv4 in front of cab

o Wireless decoder/receiver between battery and overlapping BPS

o LED converted lights

12V DC/DCC Track Power Charge On/Off

SPST Switch

BPSBatteryS-CAB

2000mA3.7V 2P

Decoder/Receiver Battery Cell 2

Power to MotorS-CAB NCE D13DRJ

Decoder/Receiver

Motor

Battery Cell 1

S-CAB3.7V 11V

Alex Binkely

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Exmaple-3: Tam ValleyHow a Tam Valley Dead Rail loco is put together

o Sn42 Class A Dunkirk

o 3S 400mah battery fits inside cab

o TV DSR1 receiver

o Zimo MX646 DCC Decoder

o Small cube speaker

o Cab fits over

o Remove battery to charge

David Heine

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Exmaple-4: CVPHow a CVP Dead Rail loco is put together

o American Flyer 21004

o DC can motor swap

o Airwire G3 Decoder/Receiver in tender

o 850mAh Battery in trailing car

o Remove battery for safe recharging

Steve Galka

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Exmaple-5: LocoGeniHow an MRC Loco Genie Dead Rail loco is put together

o SHS 2-8-0 + additional locos

o Stanton BPSv4 w/ 2000mAh 2P battery in tender

o Each loco has its own controller

o Each with lights, sound, momentum

o Throttle push buttons up/down

Luther Stephens

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ManufacturersWho makes Dead Rail or compatible systems

o BlueRail Trainso Stanton S-CABo CVPo Tam Valley/Dead Rail Installso Ring Engineering Rail Proo DelTang/The On30 Guyo LocoFio MRC Loco Geni*

Tam Valley

S-CAB

LocoFiTM

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InstallersWho’s in the business of Dead Rail installs

o Rerailer Hobbies (Robert South)o [email protected] www.facebook.com/Rerailer.Hobbies.LLC

o Dead Rail Installs (Pete Steinmetz)o [email protected] www.deadrailinstalls.com

o Remote Control Systems of New England (Don Sweet)o [email protected] www.rcsofne.com

S-CAB

Tam Valley

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New: BlueRailWhat’s new from BlueRail

o New BlueRail “BluePower”

o 2Amp and 6Amp versions

o Hybrid AC/DC/Dead Rail

o Mates to your DCC decoder

o Control and configure DCC decoder values via updated smart app

o Developed in cooperation with Tam Valley

o http://bluerailtrains.com/tam-valley-dcc/ www.bluerailtrains.com

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New: Tam ValleyWhat’s new from Tam Valley

o New Tam Valley DRS boardso DRS MkIV (2Amp, up to 30V)o DRS MkIV High Power (5Amp)

o Mates to your DCC decodero Compatible with existing

control systems o CVP 1-16 frequencyo Autosenses between 916mHz and

869mHzwww.deadrailinstalls.com

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New: S-CABWhat’s new from S-CAB

o Working to innovate on new product development in 2019

o Orders still being accepted (see webpage for details)

o “BPS-Lite” A Battery-Powered Caboose by Peter Vanvlieto April-May S Scale Resourceo https://sscale.uberflip.com/i/10973

59-april-may-2019www.s-cab.com

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New: LocoFiWhat’s new from LocoFi

o New LocoFi2 smaller boardo Jim Kellow article in S Scale

Resource June-July page 20: o https://sscale.uberflip.com/t/147961-

sscale

o Still to come:o Amrit hybrid battery

backup solution

www.wifimodelrailroad.com

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FutureWhat can we hope for in the future for Dead Rail

o Smaller boards, more featureso Smaller, high-energy batterieso Safer, non-LiPo battery techo Smaller charging system via

rails or via inductiono More major industry support

for RC control and Dead Railo More turnkey optionso Battery voltage monitoring

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LinksSome great Dead Rail links to explore

o Tam Valleyo http://www.tamvalleyrr.com/images/DRS_Book_version_Oct_2013.pdf

o S-CABo https://www.s-cab.com

o ON30 Guy (see links across the bottom of this webpage)o https://www.on30guy.com/dead-rail-primer/

o CVPo http://www.cvpusa.com/doc_center/r1_B&W_CONVRTR-15_web.pdf

o Dead Rail Societyo https://www.deadrailsociety.com

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SocialSocial Media and Online forum links

o Facebook:o https://www.facebook.com/groups/deadrailsociety/

o Groups.io: o https://groups.io/g/DeadRailSociety/

o Freerails:o http://www.freerails.com/view_forum.php?id=45

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Questions?