ASTM D05 SURVEY

LONG TERM PLANNING

ASTM INTERNATIONAL ?

CommitteeUnited States Canada Other

D02 Petroleum & Petroleum Products 75% 5% 20%

C01 Cement 82% 4% 14%

C09 Concrete & Concrete Aggregates 83% 4% 14%

A01 Steel & Related Alloys 80% 7% 13%

D05 Coal & Coke 89% 5% 7%

B05 Copper 86% 9% 5%

ASTM COMMITTES BY CLASSIFICATION

CommitteeTotal

Members Producer UserGeneral Interest

B05 Copper 120 58% 18% 25%

A01 Steel & Related Alloys 933 52% 23% 25%

C01 Cement 417 50% 14% 36%

D02 Petroleum & Petroleum Products 1251 49% 7% 45%

C09 Concrete & Concrete Aggregates 1056 46% 8% 46%

D05 Coal & Coke 240 13% 25% 62%

D05 SURVEY RESONSE BY CLASSIFICATION

Class Membership%

MembershipSurvey

Response % Response

All 240 100.0% 123 51%

Producer 30 12.5% 16 53%

User 60 25.0% 33 55%

General Interest 150 62.5% 74 49%

The Purpose of D05 is to Serve the Coal Industry

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 35% 32% 4% 29%

Producer 50% 19% 0% 31%

User 27% 39% 6% 27%

General Interest 35% 31% 4% 30%

The Purpose of D05 is to Serve the Coal Industry

• Committee D05 is a product-oriented committee. • The products are coal and coke derived from coal. • The scope of the Committee shall be the (1) promotion and dissemination of

research and knowledge and (2) development of standards for coal and coke derived from coal. Standards include terminology, classifications on the basis of chemical and physical characteristics, guides, practices and test methods for the samplings of coal and coke derived from coal as well as the analysis of the chemical and physical characteristics of coal and coke derived from coal.

• The primary areas of interest include metallurgical and utility applications. The work of the Committee will be coordinated with other ASTM Committees and other organizations having mutual interests.

General impression that coal industry implies slant towards “producers” as indicated in the lead statement to the D05 scope.

Very little participation from within coal producers i.e. those that actually mine coal (mining engineers) or make coke. Most of the participation is from those that interface with coal sales.

Distinct message D05 should emphasize the utilization side.

All Relevant Interests are represented in D05

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 20% 16% 17% 47%

Producer 19% 25% 13% 44%

User 21% 15% 27% 36%

General Interest 19% 15% 14% 53%

Despite name change to ASTM International, global participation is inadequate.

Management of producer and users interests do not appreciate or understand benefits of participation.

Over representation from third party (general interest).

Lack of participation from steel makers, utilities and regulators.

Opportunity to involve participants from alternate coal utilization technologies.

All Relevant Interests are represented in D05

What standards are used in your organization other than ASTM?

SWO EPA ISO ASME OTHER BSI EN

Producer 1 2 3 5 4 4

User 1 2 2 4 5 5

General Interest 2 1 3 4 5 6

What standards are most important to your organization?

Coal Markets (International) ISO standards used by non US companies in

international markets because of contract or government enforced requirements.

ASTM standards are not considered on an equal footing with ISO standards.

High sales value is placed on ISO certifications. ASTM standards accepted in cases where US exporters

are involved in contracts.

What standards are most important to your organization?

Coal Markets (Domestic) Wide acceptance and application of ASTM standards

for sales and purchasing. NIST standards for accurate weighing have high

priority. Recognition and acceptance of the value of the ASTM

consensus model in avoiding disputes. Countries other than USA and Canada use their own

domestic standards. No mention of Sarbanes Oxley as a driver to employ

ASTM.

What standards are most important to your organization?

Regulatory ISO certifications accepted by non USA producers and

users. One federal agency (OSM) recognizes and applies

federal requirement to use ASTM standards where available.

Utilities unanimously cite EPA requirements as mandatory and ASTM as optional or not relevant.

Mandatory fines arising from exceeding EPA recommended limits considered more important than contractual obligations.

What standards are most important to your organization?

Engineering, Technical & Research Recognition of the responsiveness, technical credibility

and adaptability of ASTM standards by coal professionals, world wide.

Less recognition of the technical value of ASTM standards for engineering and regulatory purposes.

Recognition of the value of ASTM standards in research, education, and training.

In which organization(s) do you

participate on a regular basis?

SME more relevant to mining. ASME more relevant to fire side chemistry. ASTM and ISO seen as wealth of sampling and analysis

expertise and knowledge. ISO and regulatory participation important because of

requirements for accreditation. Attendance at meetings of and to a lesser extent

participation in SWOs with common interests (e.g. ASTM and ISO) is discouraged.

Where do you obtain the highest value from participation in D05?

Interaction through face to face discussions fundamental to standards development.

“Book” of standards valuable for those that cannot attend meetings.

Opportunity to increase participation for those with physical limitations through virtual web based tools.

How can D05 maintain and increase active participation?

ChoiceSummary of Standards Training

International Members

Technical Experts Seminars

Total 4 9 9 9 10

Producer 1 2 6 4 2

User 2 3 2 2 3

General Interest 2 4 1 3 5

Choice Other Symposia

Certificates of

RecognitionInternational

Meeting Awards

Total 13 14 17 19 20

Producer 3 5 6 7 7

User 1 3 3 5 5

General Interest 9 6 8 7 8

How can D05 maintain and increase active participation?

Investigate impact of ISO certification(s) on use of ASTM standards

Examine relationship with ISO. Pursue training initiatives. Promote virtual (e-based) participation. Provide concise well organized web-based summaries of

standards

How can D05 promote the benefits of ASTM standards to industry?

Choice OtherASTM News

World Coal IEA EPA

ACCI EPRI McCloskeys

Total 8 8 8 9 11 12

Producer 2 3 4 5 1 4

User 3 1 3 2 5 4

General Interest 3 4 1 2 5 4

How can D05 promote the benefits of ASTM standards to industry?

Direct contact with decision makers at the top levels Proactive web-based newsletters to industry Presentations at coal organization conferences More public exposure ASTM standards with respect to

application and advancement of coal technology.

D05 should update information in standards concerning significance and use.

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 44% 25% 7% 24%

Producer 44% 19% 19% 19%

User 52% 39% 0% 9%

General Interest 41% 20% 8% 31%

D05 should update information in standards concerning significance and use.

Significance and Use is mandatory for Test Methods, Classifications, Practices and Guides, but not for Specifications, or Terminologies.

Indication those involved in coal trade are not convinced of the value of significance and use.

Important to recognize distinction of significance and use with respect to an agreement between individual parties and that relating to rationale of as well as most common uses for a standard.

Significance and use statements need to convey to non lab types the relevance and impact of the standards with respect to their needs.

D05 standards should address quality management and assurance.

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 45% 30% 7% 19%

Producer 44% 31% 13% 13%

User 58% 33% 0% 9%

General Interest 39% 28% 8% 24%

D05 standards should address quality management and assurance

• Lack of consensus of those by those involved coal trade concerning the value of quality elements.

• Concern by those involved in coal trade about uniform application of QA/QC across D05 standards.

• Follow the lead of and take part in continuing review of ISO 17025.

• Set a common standard that provides goals without mandated criteria but does provide examples of common industry practice.

• Allow latitude for specific standards to include more rigorous quality elements where appropriate

D05 should publish a comprehensive research report.

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 33% 33% 11% 23%

Producer 31% 44% 6% 19%

User 36% 42% 9% 12%

General Interest 32% 27% 12% 28%

D05 should publish a comprehensive research report.

To difficult to assemble and maintain in hard copy format.

Make information available through web based summary (of standards) that links to existing research reports.

Useful resource for planning future revisions to standards.

Useful resource for promoting validity of D05 standards.

D05should hold a meeting every 4 years at ASTM headquarters.

Response AgreeAgree with Comment Disagree

No Comment

All 26% 16% 23% 35%

Producer 13% 25% 19% 44%

User 30% 18% 27% 24%

General Interest 27% 14% 22% 38%

D05 should hold a meeting every 4 years at ASTM headquarters.

Members do not see benefits of a meeting at headquarters over those available at committee weeks.

Not a lot of “after meeting” dining and entertainment options.

Good back up for situations where committee week selections are not in “coal areas”

Good opportunity to expose “non-officer” members of D05 to extensive services available at and through headquarters.

ASTM needs to hire an animal control officer for the Pennsylvania turnpike.

Where are gaps in D05 standards?

Rating Sampling Utilization

Resource & Reserve

Assessment Mining

All 1 2 3 4

Producer 1 2 2 3

User 1 2 3 4

General Interest 1 2 3 4

Where are the gaps in D05 standards?

Sampling Sampling of coal utilization by-products. Current coke sampling practice not reflected in D05

standards Guidance on operation of mechanical sampling systems

(maintenance, quality control, training) Coal preparation standards are lagging ISO.

Where are the gaps in D05 standards?

Utilization Methods for density and spontaneous combustion. Better methods to reflect true coking characteristics of

coal. Laboratory and on-line methods fire side products. Better methods for predicting slagging and fouling

propensity.

Where are the gaps in D05 standards?

Resource and Reserve Assessment Better agreement between the quality of reserve

samples and the actual coals being utilized.

More collaboration with ASTM committee (D 18)

Where are the gaps in D05 standards?

Mining No need to be involved in standards for mining.

Themes

Review and reassess D05 scope as a “product” oriented committee.

Establish D05 position and criteria for participating in revision and development of ISO standards including submission of existing D05 standards as model and D05 ILS results as validation data.

Establish strategy for increasing international participation in development of D05 standards including but not limited to interlaboratory studies (ILS).

Examine impact of ISO certification(s) as an impediment to acceptance of ASTM standards.

Themes

Establish web base tools to proactively inform primary decision makers in the coal utilization industry, engineers and regulators of the value of D05 standards.

Work with ASTM to establish transparent recognition of the relevance and acceptance of D05 standards with respect to mandatory regulatory requirements.

Aggressively enlist participation members, who do not regularly attend meetings, in critical work items (task groups).

Promote D05 through presentations at coal sampling, preparation and utilization conferences.

Themes

Establish web based summaries of standards including reason for implementation, most common examples of application, citations to associated research report(s) with validation date(s) as well as agencies which reference the standards.

Continue with seminar presentations and training initiatives as a basis for fostering professionalism in the use in application of D05 standards.

Continue with efforts to establish an umbrella quality management standard with due consideration to comments from this survey.

Technical subcommittees review gaps cited in this survey in the current body of D05 standards and present options on these are or can be addressed.

And the survey said

I am not filling in anymore “bleeped” surveys (Art Hoeft) I have seen no significant advantage with D5 meetings at

ASTM Headquarters. I attended the reunion D5 Meeting at ASTM Headquarters about 4 years ago after taking out a deer and my radiator on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. (Bill Kalb).

I have not been there (ASTM Headquarters) to know if it is any better than holding meetings at easily traveled to destinations. (Paul Differding)

Heaven help us of if D05 starts writing standards on how to mine coal. (Charlie Rose)

Why did it take so long for the bias test standard? ( Fred Flintstone)

Acknowledgements

Scott Orthey for assistance with organization and distribution of the survey as well as collation and posting of comments and results.

Members of D05 who took the time to respond with comments and observations that provide valuable insight.

Members of D05 who did not respond and thus allowed me to get this done in time.

Bill Gates for having the foresight to go forward with Microsoft or we could not do this presentation.

Any body I overlooked deliberately or otherwise.