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M E M O R A N D U M

TO: NFPA Correlating Committee on Signaling Systems for the Protection of Life and

Property

FROM: Jenny Depew, Administrator, Technical Projects

DATE: February 26, 2014

SUBJECT: NFPA 72 First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION (A2015)

The February 25, 2014 date for receipt of the NFPA 72 First Draft CC ballot has passed.

The preliminary First Draft ballot results are shown on the attached report.

20 Members Eligible to Vote

3 Ballots Not Returned (D. Aiken, J. Fannin, D. Klein)

In accordance with the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, attached are

the reasons for Negative votes for your review, along with any Abstentions and Affirmatives with

Comment. Ballots received from alternate members are not included unless the ballot from the

principal member was not received.

If you wish to change your vote, the change must be received on or before Tuesday, March 4,

2014. Members who have not returned a ballot may do so now. To cast your vote, or to

make changes to your vote, please submit via the NFPA Vote.net ballot site, link shown

below:

http://www.nfpa.org/catalog/services/customer/nfpa_committee_vote.asp

The return of ballots is required by the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA

Standards.

NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 15

Affirmative with Comment 1

Robert P. Schifiliti The following does not belong in a section on Plans Examiners: 10.5.4.2 Fire alarm

system and emergency communications system installations shall be inspected by

personnel who are qualified to perform such inspections.

Negative 1

Peter A. Larrimer The correlating committee adds a new section on requirements for plans

examiners and inspectors to recognize the need for qualifications for these

personnel. However, the added 10.5.4.3(3) allows the AHJ to assign plans

examiners and inspectors regardless of whether or not they have any qualifications

to do so. This effectively nullifies the any requirements for qualifications. It appears

that the Technical Committee on Fundamentals acted appropriately at the first

draft meeting when they resolved this and stated: “The qualification of the Plans

Examiners and Inspectors are already determined by the local AHJ.” and there is no

reason why this should have been addressed by the correlating committee.

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Election:72_A2015_SIG-AAC_FD_ballot

Results by Revision

FCR-15, Global Input, See FCR-15

FCR-17, Global Input, See FCR-17

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Vic Humm The TC believes that the scope is limited to CO Alarms. Reference of UL 2075

includes both CO Alarms and CO detectorx this needs to be resolved during

comment period.

Negative 0

Abstain 0

FCR-22, Global Input, See FCR-22

FCR-36, Section No. 2.2, See FCR-36

FCR-38, Global Input, See FCR-38

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

FCR-12, Section No. 7.5.9, See FCR-12

FCR-2, Section No. 7.3.6, See FCR-2

FCR-11, Section No. 7.8.2, See FCR-11

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Vic Humm New Class "N" communication pathways use isolated grounds and rely on

monitoring of end-to-end communication. This needs to be resolved in Public

Comment.

Negative 0

Abstain 0

FCR-16, Section No. 10.12.1, See FCR-16

FCR-14, Section No. 10.6.7.2, See FCR-14

FCR-19, Section No. 12.6.1, See FCR-19

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Vic Humm Wording needs to be revised to accomodiate Class "N:" pathways including fiber

optic which have isolated grounds and no ground does not bother.

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

FCR-18, Section No. 12.6.2, See FCR-18

FCR-30, Section No. 21.4.4, See FCR-30

FCR-29, Section No. 21.2.6, See FCR-29

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

FCR-33, Section No. 26.5.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FCR-33

FCR-35, Section No. G.1.1, See FCR-35

FCR-32, New Section after A.24.3.1, See FCR-32

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Vic Humm Include referfence to UL 464 for audibles and 1480 for speakers.

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Vic Humm Chapter 29 HOU needs to have required compliance as does the other chapters

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-23, Section No. 7.1.6, See CN-23

FCR-37, Sections G.1.2.1, G.1.2.2, See FCR-37

CN-1, Section No. 7.2.1, See CN-1

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-3, New Section after 7.3.7.3, See CN-3

CN-13, New Section after 7.7.1.4, See CN-13

CN-6, Section No. 7.5.7, See CN-6

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-20, Section No. 12.6.14, See CN-20

CN-21, Section No. 12.2.4.2, See CN-21

CN-24, Section No. 17.1.3, See CN-24

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-8, Section No. 21.1, See CN-8

CN-25, Section No. 23.1.2, See CN-25

CN-7, New Section after 21.3.4, See CN-7

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-26, Section No. 24.1.3, See CN-26

CN-9, Section No. 24.3.7, See CN-9

CN-10, Section No. 24.4.2.8, See CN-10

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 16

Affirmative with Comment 1

Lynn Nielson I think that this CN-27 should have also directed chapter 29 to make the same

change to 29.1.3.

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-31, Section No. 24.6.4, See CN-31

CN-28, Section No. 27.1.4, See CN-28

CN-27, Section No. 26.1.2, See CN-27

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NFPA 72 (A2015) First Draft CC Ballot CIRCULATION

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

Eligible to Vote: 20

Not Returned : 3

John C. Fannin III, Douglas M. Aiken,

David F. Klein

Vote Selection Votes Comments

Affirmative 17

Affirmative with Comment 0

Negative 0

Abstain 0

CN-5, Section No. 27.5.3, See CN-5

CN-4, Section No. 27.3.7.4, See CN-4

CN-34, New Section after G.1.2.12.1, See CN-34

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