i want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do-1

“i want 2 do project. tell me

wat 2 do”.Shakthi Kannan

shakthimaan@gmail.com shakthimaan.com

@shakthimaan

Version 1.5September 2011

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hey foo,

Try the IBM T60 or the Compaq ones with turion-64's or any intelcore/core 2 based processors. Almost all the ones I have seen rungreat.

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> Message: 2> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 20:25:55 +0530> From: "foo" <foo at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Asterisk hardware> To: ILUG-C <ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in>> Message-ID:> <3b020fee0704070755n36d841c6t2bfba61d21454cba at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > On 4/7/07, foo <mail-lists at foo.org> wrote:> >> > > On 4/6/07, foo <foo at gmail.com> wrote:> > >>> > >> Does anyone know where can I get hardware related to Asterisk in> > Ritchie> > >> St.> > >> Or what should I ask for if I go blind folded.> >> > if you just need 1 line, you can always use a voice modem card, works at> > decent'ish quality> >> > I just need 1 line at least for now to test things. I don't really know I> can use a regular modem. How should I configure this, just like any FXO> card? are there any document available?> > --

> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 22:32:31 +0530> From: foo <foo at gmail.com>> Subject: [Ilugc] Forcing dpkg to ask for changed conffile questions in> case of a reinstall> To: ILUG-C <ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in>> Message-ID:> <9a9bfc170704071002o1caf5b77g19bf54ccb3648473 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Hi!> > When a package is upgraded and a configuration file changes as a> result, dpkg usually asks the user whether the new conf file should be> installed if it has local changes. Is it possible to make it ask this> question even when dpkg is just reinstalling the same version? I know> its possible to unpack the .deb file and replace/diff manually but> would like to know if this is possible...> > it moves on...> > -- > One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire> was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate> successful termination of their C programs.> -- Robert Firth> > > ------------------------------

> Message: 4> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 05:10:34 +0530> From: foo <foo at yahoo.co.in>> Subject: [Ilugc] Compatible Laptop for Linux> To: ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in> Message-ID: <1175989235.5048.2.camel at ubuntu-desktop>> Content-Type: text/plain> > Hi list> I have my eyes set on getting a laptop. So i would welcome suggestions> on which one to go for keeping in mind the Linux compatibility issues> with the minimum number of tweaks.> > Regards> Foo

> Message: 5> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:17:45 +0530> From: Foo <foo at gmail.com>> Subject: [Ilugc] Gaim is now Pidgin!> To: ILUG-C <ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in>> Message-ID:> <9a9bfc170704072247k749b88f1h58c87b08a6a748a5 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > looks like they had to change their name because of AOL's tantrums...

> Message: 4> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 05:10:34 +0530> From: foo <foo at yahoo.co.in>> Subject: [Ilugc] Compatible Laptop for Linux> To: ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in> Message-ID: <1175989235.5048.2.camel at ubuntu-desktop>> Content-Type: text/plain> > Hi list> I have my eyes set on getting a laptop. So i would welcome suggestions> on which one to go for keeping in mind the Linux compatibility issues> with the minimum number of tweaks.> > Regards> Foo

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no interest

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before starting the project work!

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Spoken

Every weekend

have a one-to-one

chat discussion with your mentor(s).

Mentor(s), who work, are busy during weekdays.

Don't disturb them during weekdays, unless it is urgent.

Just send e-mail

during weekdays.

If your English is terrible, don't explain the error!

By trying to explain it in your own words, you only make it worse!

Just copy and paste the

output/error or log messages.

Not being on time is

unprofessional, rude,

awful!

Punctuality is important.

Time is precious!

As on date, you cannot undo time!

If you are not able to make it to the online discussion with your

mentor(s),

inform!Mentor(s) can get to do their work

rather than wait for you!

When asking a question in writing, put a

question mark at the end.

How does anyone know if you are making a statement or asking a

question ?

Doing the project

...

Understand what mentor(s) can do ...

Mentor(s) CANNOT● write project abstracts,● write code,● do project documentation,● prepare presentations,

... for you.

Mentor(s) can only tell you what to do.

Start with small tasks to assess your progress,

before you handle big project tasks.

Patience is the key to success.

Never ever do last minute work!

Send status updates on daily

basis!

curve !learning

a steepthrough

going You are

Communicate like an engineer!

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“Internet is not working”.

“I have compilation problem”.

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“Internet is not working”.

● What is the network setup?● What did you try?● How do you say it is not working?● Which GNU/Linux distribution?

Communicate like an engineer!

“I have compilation problem”.

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Keep journal/log of:

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Helps in project documentation.

When you reply to e-mail or questions, reply to all the questions asked.

Don't skip anything!

Same when following HOWTOs, documentation, tutorials et. al.

Over-enthusiasm can cause you to make your own decisions.

Never make your own decisions!

Else, why do you need mentor(s)?

Always inform your team members, or consult your mentor(s) before doing anything new.

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don't forget to CC all your team members.

If you intentionally/unintentionally forget to CC, your team will

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Else use a project mailing list.

If you keep repeating

the same mistakes again, and again, and again,expect the mentor(s) to find

other developers.

It is normal for people to move in, and out of project teams.

Can my friend(s) also

join the project?

Only if they get selected by the mentor(s).

Never ask personal questions

to your mentor(s).

It is none of your business.

Respect other peoples' privacy.

Write small code first, and send it to your mentor(s) for feedback.

Easy to correct small mistakes on daily basis, than to submit a chunk at the end of the week, and re-do everything.

PITA.

Never make assumptions.

Always give proof when you make statements.

Never hesitate to ask questions.

If in doubt, ask.

No harm in making sure you have understood.

Being silent gives the impression that you have understood.

Feel free to have open discussions with your mentor(s).

The more you hesitate, lesser the communication, more the communication gap, and project at stake!

Impossibleis a word only to

be found in the dictionary of fools.

~ Napoleon