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21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 1
Discussion
NuFact Talks Comments
Report 1st Draft Oct 15 50 – 60 Pages per WG Finalise before end of the year
Future - IDS Possible Scenarios
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 2
Neutrino Facility Oversight Committee
accelerator
detector
physics
accelerator
detector
physics
accelerator
detector
physics
-Factory -Beam Superbeam
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 3
Oversight Committee
INuFC - Collaboration Board
p-driver Targetry Physics
-Fact
Accelerator
MagnetisedDetector
-Beam
Acceterator
SuperBeam
Accelerator
Non-Magnetised
Detector
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 4
Thanks
Last Plenary Meeting of the ISS Ambitious Goals Substantial Progress
And much has been accomplished
Thanks To all who have worked towards this outcome Specifically the WG Convenors
Mike Zisman Alain Blondel Yori Nagashima & Ken Long
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 6
Next - until the end of 2006
Produce the ISS Report - with the present team & structure
A Good Report is Vital it will provide the basis of bids for R&D funding for the next
stage, assuming there is a community to support it
Devise a New Effort to carry the Work Forward But what is the best way?
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 7
The ISS Report for the Neutrino Factory It must address
Ourselves We have to be convinced it is viable and will produce
good physics The wider community
Main problem here is probably timescale The wider particle physics community
Many in he LHC – ILC communities consider -oscillation is just a blip on the SM and that ‘serious’ BSM physics will only come from the quark sector
The funding agencies Requires pressure from the PP community
The Labs -factory has to be in possible future plans
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 8
Structure for a Continuation
Must be established during the fall
What form should it take? How to do it? Who can do it?
Here are some thoughts From the ISS - PC and the original ‘Wise Men’ for discussion this week
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 9
Goal - An Advanced Neutrino Facility
- for data taking before 2020.
To choose The facility to produce the very best physics return
But maybe too expensive
The facility giving max physics/$ Weighting physics return is subjective
Need a compromise & probably more information e.g. size of 13
So cannot make such a judgment today But equally cannot keep postponing it
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 10
What would it be?
Neutrino Factory -Beam Facility High power Superbeam and very large detector
Possibly two of these - but not three
Future - how to proceed? Single Study embracing all three? Three independent studies?
-assuming all three communities believe it necessary
Three quasi-independent studies but with coordination where practicable and an overall oversight body.
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 11
Why An Independent -Fact Study?
The synergies with the others are not great
Accelerator After p-driver and target - little in common
Detector For -fact – high energy magnetised For Superbeam - low energy non-magnetised, very large For -beam, non-magntised
Physics This is in common, provides the overall motivation and is one of
the critical discriminators
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 12
Neutrino Facility Oversight Committee
accelerator
detector
physics
accelerator
detector
physics
accelerator
detector
physics
-Factory -Beam Superbeam
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 13
The Oversight Body
International cooperation for a future advanced neutrino facility has been strongly advocated by EPP2010 CERN Council Strategy Document
The four ISS ‘Wise Men’, Steve Geer, Yoshi Kuno,Vittorio Palladino, Ken Peach, have drafted a letter to go to all relevant accelerator lab directors asking them to facilitate coordinated R&D in the neutrino area and establish an
‘International Neutrino Facility Oversight Committee’ (INFOC)
With copies to spokespeople of all major current neutrino experiments Aim to finalise the draft this week
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 14
INFOC
Representatives of the Labs And funding agencies?
The Individual Neutrino collaborations would report to INFOC
Would recommend support, funding, engineering for the projects
Monitor Progress
It ultimately would decide on the form of the future neutrino facility
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 15
The Neutrino Factory Collaboration
For the Neutrino Factory area there would be an International Neutrino Factory Collaboration (INuFC)
Would focus purely on the -fact approach to a future -facility
It would have a structure similar to the ISS Accelerator group Detector Group Physics Group
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 16
INuFC - Aim
To produce by ~2010 an interim report outlining
A -factory solution for a -facility which could produce data before 2020 Dependent on a successful outcome of R&D underway, e.g.
MICE and other R&D following the ISS Dependent on the value of 13
Approximate costs Site Considerations
Make it possible (with resources) to produce a CDR for a n-fact by ~2012, a TDR by ~2014 and data by 2020
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 17
Ambitious Plan
But it is necessary - in order to Engage accelerator scientists, engineers, the -
physics community A device for ~2030 has little attraction at the present
time
Have an international -factory on the particle physic roadmap And encourage the major labs/regions to include it on
their roadmap And for one of them to ‘host’ the effort
Ensure adequate (substantial) resources for the CDR
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 18
INuFC - Questions
Structure Like ISS - 3 WG’s and a PC of WG leaders and an
overall coordinator? Like a PP experiment - a wide steering group?
How are people chosen?
Mandate Period of 3 years, 2007 – 2010 Indefinite
Until -fact is built or funding ceases
These - and many other questions - will need to be established at a meeting around the start of 2007 to coincide with the ISS report
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 19
INuFC - Needs - Goals
Get Resources Use ISS report for bids to labs, funding agencies, EU etc. Persuade a lab (or group of labs) to ‘host’ the study and provide
some engineering support Embark upon the R&D recommended for by the ISS report Continue the unfinished work of the ISS Convince the wider -community that this is in the best interests
of neutrino physics
Get People Need more physicists & engineers for whom this is their major
activity Many in the ISS had very limited time Need committed young people.
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 20
Discussion
These are all suggestions They need to be discussed
Starting now Continuing in the corridors - and again tomorrow
afternoon.
It is important to have a plan with substantial support from the ISS for the NuFact discussion on the last day.
21 August 2006 P Dornan - After ISS 21
Oversight Committee
INuFC - Collaboration Board
p-driver Targetry Physics
-Fact
Accelerator
MagnetisedDetector
-Beam
Acceterator
SuperBeam
Accelerator
Non-Magnetised
Detector