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WP4: Theory in the VObs EuroVO-DCA Final Review, 29 April 2009 Gerard Lemson Deliverables D10 Euro-VO Theory Workshop WP4MPE January 2008 April 2008 D11 TEG Report: “Framework for inclusion of Theoretical Astronomy Services in the VObs” WP4MPE October December 2008

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Gerard Lemson

WP4: Theory in the VObs EuroVO-DCA Final Review, 29 April 2009

WP4: Theory in the VObs

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Gerard Lemson

WP4: Theory in the VObs EuroVO-DCA Final Review, 29 April 2009

Objectives

• Assess the inclusion of theory data and services in the Virtual Observatory

• Theory Expert Group– establish a framework for the inclusion of

theory in the VObs. – organise workshop

• Stimulate national/partner activities.

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Deliverables

D10Euro-VO Theory Workshop WP4 MPE

January 2008

April 2008

D11

TEG Report: “Framework for inclusion of Theoretical Astronomy Services in the VObs”

WP4 MPEOctober 2008

16 December 2008

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WP4: Theory in the VObs EuroVO-DCA Final Review, 29 April 2009

Reminder: Why special attention to theory ?

• Existing protocols not applicable, observationally biased

• Data models insufficient• Archiving generally ad hoc• No existing standardisation, no “FITS for

simulations”• New use cases

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Theory Experts Group (TEG)

• Members: – Santi Cassisi (INAF), Miguel Cervińo (INTA), Gerard

Lemson (MPG, chair), Pedro Osuna (ESAC), Joop Schaye (NOVA), Nic Walton (LU), Hervé Wozniak (CNRS)

• Tasks– SAC workshop– Co-authors whitepaper– Theory Sections in DCA census questionnaire

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Euro-VO Theory Workshop• Garching, April 7-9

– followed by WP5 workshop, April 9-11• Program focused on science

– 3+1D simulations– microphysics simulations– theory-theory interoperability– theory-observational interface– computational infrastructure– discussions!

• Proceedings @ Memorie della Società Astronomica Italiana – Supplementi – http://sait.oats.inaf.it/Supplementi.htm– submitted

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2008-11-19/20 Gerard Lemson, chair WP4

Speakers (invited)

• France : 8 (7)Germany : 6 (4)Italy : 4 (3)Mexico : 1Netherlands : 2 (2)Spain : 2 (2)Switzerland : 1 (1)UK : 2 (2)USA : 2 (2)

• total : 28

Participants

Figure 1 - Participants distribution per country

Mexico2%

Switzerland2%

Sweden2%

UK4%

USA6%

Chech republic2%

Japan2%

Netherlands4%

Serbia2%

Spain6%

Denmark2%

Italy18%

France25%

Germany23%

Chech republicDenmarkFranceGermanyItalyJapanMexicoNetherlandsSerbiaSpainSwedenSwitzerlandUKUSA

• Invited METAFOR Project, unable to participate.• Special permission received for non-EU members.

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2008-11-19/20 Gerard Lemson, chair WP4

Some conclusions• 3+1D (“macro”) simulations

– Interest in community high for access (e.g. Millennium)– Interesting services should be deployed:

• visualisation– Data formats need attention (binary VOTable, HDF5)– “Comoving units” ?

• Development in IVOA– SimDB for discovery– SimDAP for access services

• Focus “micro-simulations”– many opportunities for interoperability– community has been pondering standardisation– participants are willing to contribute to VO efforts– workshop “planned”, possibly financed by DCA(AIDA?). – IVOA TIG focus.

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Whitepaper

• “Framework for inclusion of Theoretical Astronomy Services in the VObs” – Authors: TEG– Editors: GL, HW, JZ– Contributors: Ugo Becciani, Laurent Bourges,

Igor Chillingarian, Claudio Gheller, Franck LePetit, Patrizia Manzato, Carlos Rodrigo, Enrique Solano.

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Recommendations• Participation

– Publication: Scientific results MUST be made available online.– Usage: Online resources SHOULD be used by scientists.

• Standardisation– Definition: Interoperability standards MUST be defined.– Participation: The scientific community MUST be involved in the standardisation process.

• Implementation– Mapping: metadata SHOULD be assigned to published data sets and services according to

IVOA data model standards. – Protocols: services SHOULD implement IVOA standard protocols. – Data formats: Services SHOULD provide results in an IVOA-standard data format.– Applications: VObs aware client tools SHOULD be written. – Registration: Online resources MUST be registered in an IVOA compatible resource registry.

• Resource allocation– Standardisation efforts MUST be supported. – Implementation efforts MUST be supported. – Outreach SHOULD be supported.

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Census on theory data centers• 15 institutes• 23 archives (mainly micro-simulations)• 10 services (focusing on theory/observation interface)• non-classical data types: particle properties, hierarchical

trees, isochrones, rate coefficients…• great interest for VO compliance;

already applying VO techniques to a certain degree (VOTable, registered, DAL, SNAP)

2008-11-19/20 Gerard Lemson, chair WP4

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IVOA activities• EuroVO-DCA (partners) very active in IVOA.• Participation in theory sessions at interops Beijing (funded!),

Cambridge, Trieste, Baltimore• TIG chair and vice-chair from France/Italy

– Hervé Wozniak/Claudio Gheller– Until May 2008, GL

• Standards development– SimDB+SimDAP (formerly SNAP)

• Meeting in Garching, April 2007, supported by EuroVO-DCA• France/Germany building prototype SimDB• Italy/USA leading SimDAP effort

– S3 proposal from Spain VO• prototypes in SVO and ITVO

– Theory Semantics

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Partner activities

• France (Horizon, PDR codes, SimDB)• Germany (Millennium, SimDB, TMAP)• Italy (ITVO@Trieste simulation database,

BaSTI, VisIVO)• Spain (S3 implementations)• See also whitepaper, Appendix B• Some examples (if time permits)

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Millennium DB and TOPCAT

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VisIVO• Development of

VisIVOServer by OACatania, that will permit to visualize cosmological data server side

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Spain: S3 prototypes