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Women Bishops? What do evangelical Baptists believe? Do we have to disbelieve the Bible to believe in women in leadership?

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Page 1: Women Bishops? What do evangelical Baptists believe? Do we have to disbelieve the Bible to believe in women in leadership?

Women Bishops?Women Bishops?

What do evangelical Baptists believe?

Do we have to disbelieve the Bible to believe in women in leadership?

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Evangelical: Believing the Bible to be the inspired word of God

Evangelical: Believing the Bible to be the inspired word of God

How do we understand the Bible?How do we understand the Bible?

Believing our understanding/interpretation has to be checked against scripture in the light of our assumptions

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Rules of interpretationRules of interpretation

Author’s meaning

Context

Consistency

How do we understand the Bible?How do we understand the Bible?

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Does a leader represent Christ?Does a leader represent Christ?All believers represents Jesus

1 Peter 2:5 ...you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood ...9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light

1 Corinthians 12:27    Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.All believers priests

Not males onlyGalatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

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Genesis 1:27 So God created human beings in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Does a leader represent Christ?Does a leader represent Christ?

All believers, male and female are the body of Christ, his priesthoodAll believers, male and female are the body of Christ, his priesthood

Jesus is the image of God

God is neither male nor female

God created male and female to fully represent himself

Isaiah 49:15 “Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!

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Does a leader represent Christ?Does a leader represent Christ?

All believers, male and female are the body of Christ, his priesthoodAll believers, male and female are the body of Christ, his priesthood

Women represent God as much men

The best representation of God is men and women togetherThe best representation of God is men and women together

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?

Headship

1 Corinthians 11 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, (husband) and the head of Christ is God.

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour.

Relationship between husbands and wives is the same as between Jesus and GodRelationship between husbands and wives is the same as between Jesus and God

- dependence, unity and life-source- dependence, unity and life-source

Not control and authorityNot control and authority

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship

Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

- dependence, unity and life-source

Reversible as is sacrificial love of husband

Submission A command for all

Illustrated/highlighted for wives

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

1 Timothy 2:11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.

1 Corinthians 14:34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

Submission - A command for all

- Learn in silenceSilence

Listen not chatter

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

1 Timothy 2:11 A womana should learn in quietness and full submission.12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;b,c she must be quiet.

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching

aOr wife; bOr teach a man in a domineering way; or teach or to exercise (or have) authority over a man.cOr over her husband.

aOr wife; bOr teach a man in a domineering way; or teach or to exercise (or have) authority over a man.cOr over her husband.

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching

1 Timothy 2:11 A womana should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach a man in a domineering way;b,c she must be quiet.

1 Timothy 2:11 A womana should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;b,c she must be quiet.

Which one?

Elsewhere in Scripture …

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Luke 2:36 There was also a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. …

Elsewhere …Elsewhere …

Prophets were leaders and teachers e.g. Samuel, Isaiah etc.Prophets were leaders and teachers e.g. Samuel, Isaiah etc.

Acts 21:9 He (Philip) had four unmarried daughters who prophesied

Judges 4:4 Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.

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Elsewhere …Elsewhere …

Acts 2:17 "`In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

All references to gifts are gender inclusiveAll references to gifts are gender inclusive

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Elsewhere …Elsewhere …

1 Corinthians 11: 5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered ...

Woman took part in meetingsWoman took part in meetings

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1 Timothy 2:11 A womana should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach a man in a domineering way;b,c she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching

Lesson from Eve - Our sin not the fault of Eve1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

- Woman taught and led in scripture

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching1 Timothy 2:11 A womana should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach a man in a domineering way;b,c she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

- Eve formed after God had prohibited the eating of the fruit

- Woman taught and led in scripture

… un-education leads to deception and failure… un-education leads to deception and failure

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching - Not to be done in ignorance or domination

Authority God has authority over all

Governments have authority over people

Leaders have authority over church members

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Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Does the Bible teach leadership is male?Headship - dependence, unity and life-source

Submission - A command for all

Silence - Listen not chatter

Teaching - Not to be done in ignorance or domination

Authority Leadership is plural

Ephesians 411 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up

Ephesians 411 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up

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Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?

Just as with slavery, the Bible consistently teaches a higher value on women than the culture of the day

Exodus 21:28 “If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull is to be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten

Law

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Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?

Just as with slavery, the Bible consistently teaches a higher value on women than the culture of the day

Prophets

Acts 21:9 He (Philip) had four unmarried daughters who prophesied

Judges 4:4 Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.

Law

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Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?

Just as with slavery, the Bible consistently teaches a higher value on women than the culture of the day

Deacons Romans 16:1 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae

-ProphetsLaw

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Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?

Just as with slavery, the Bible consistently teaches a higher value on women than the culture of the day

- Deacons-ProphetsLaw

Jesus

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Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Does the Bible teach leadership should include women?Entrusted with the greatest leadership task of allMatthew 28:5  The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: ‘He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.” 8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples.