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Wisconsin Private Sector Jobs
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Links for all sources are at the end of this presentation.
All Wisconsin Job Numbers come from the
Department of Workforce Development
dwd.wisconsin.gov
“Two Years ago Republicans promised to focus first on jobs and help getting WI
moving in the right direction. I’m proud we kept that promise.”
Scott Fitzgerald R – Juneau
Watertown Daily Times March 17th 2012
Please check my sources and my math
I contacted dwd.wisconsin.gov
I asked for job creation numbers for the last six months of the Doyle administration. The third time I asked I was sent a link
to nine spread sheets going from 1990 to 2011 (between the 9 charts). The link is source number two.
On two different days I went to the charts and did the math.
I would welcome anyone to let me know if there is an error in any number
This is what if found
Governor Walker Said He Would Create 250,000 Jobs In Four Years, This is 62,500 in 1 Year. (The Blue Line)
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Governor Walker claimed he would create 250,000 jobs in four years
This would be 62,500 jobs in one year.
At the end of 2011 you were told (preliminary) Governor Walker created 13,500 jobs.
From employer quarterly reports under Governor Walker leadership in 2011 Wisconsin lost 9,700 private sector jobs
“Preliminary”
By June you were told 41,200 jobs had been created and the
actual number turned out to be 12,000
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If Wisconsin had the “Average State” Job Growth, 51,820 More Jobs Would Have Been Created In
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In 2010 Governor Doyle Created 28,200 Private Sector jobs. (2) In 2011 Governor Walker Lost (9,700) Private Sector Jobs (2)
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Wisconsin positive job growth started in February, one month before the nation started it’s positive job growth.
The average job growth in the first six months per month was 1,480 jobs a month.
The average job growth in the second six months per month was 3,550 jobs a month.
For the year 28,200 private sector jobs were created
If Wisconsin created its proportional share of jobs (1/50th of the national job creation number) we would have created 24,960 jobs.
Wisconsin GDP is slightly above average.
In 2011
12,000 jobs were created in the first three months of the year (up to when the budget was signed)
Job gains for the year 12,800. Job losses for the year (22,500)
Job losses since budget passed (April - December) (21,200)
Job losses since budget went into effect (July - December) (21,700)
94% job growth occurred before the budget was signed.
Average job growth per month since budget went into effect is a loss of (3,100) jobs month
Average number of private sector jobs in the first 6 months was 2,333,633
Average number of private sector jobs in the second 6 months was 2,319,366
Questions to ask yourself before voting
For the record I have never been a government employee or a member of a union.
Since Governor Walker was going to create 250,000 in four years, is he now going to
create 259,700 jobs in three years?
According to the Legislative Fiscal Bureau the next state budget 2013-14 Wisconsin has a $3 billion dollar deficit. In the current state budget they
estimate we have a $143 million dollar deficit. When you include the $65 million emergency fund which the state is required to keep on hand by law this is
over a $200 million dollars deficit in the current budget.
What should we cut this year to balance the budget and what should we cut for the next budget?
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/publications/Revenue-Estimates/Documents/2012_02_09_Darling_Vos_Revenue%20estimates.pdf
If the people who want a recall are responsible for the job losses, why did job creation become stagnate in April and in rapidly
decline in July, even though the recall didn’t start until November?
Money has a multiplier effect in our economy. Job creation crashed when we took thousand of dollars out of the hands of hundreds of thousand of people. Government workers had to change their spending
habits.
Isn’t this the real reason for the jobs loss?
If any business needs help, are you telling me there not going to hire someone until they know if Governor Walker is going to keep his job?
Why are there job gains (preliminary) in January when this is at the end of the recall action, if the
recall is the reason for the job losses?
In 2011 Wisconsin lost 20,000 jobs, 9,700 private sector and 10,000+ government
employees. A lower unemployment rate means people have stopped looking for
work.
Is a lower unemployment rate always a good thing?
Quotes From Reginald NewsonSecretary of the Department of Workforce
Development
“The year 2011 as a whole averaged 18,800 more private-sector jobs in Wisconsin than in 2010 as a whole.”
Media Release 3/16/2012
“Number of Wisconsinites employed grew by over 11,600 last year” Media Release 3/16/2012
“As difficult as this may be for critics of the Walker Administration to admit, Wisconsin’s economy is undeniably headed in the right direction. It moved in the right direction in 2011, and it will keep moving in the right direction in 2012.” Media Release 3/16/2012
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2012/120316_bls_national.pdf
Department of Workforce Development Secretary Reginald Newson claims if you take the average number of people working in 2010 and the average number of people working in 2011, the difference is 18,800 and this proves
Governor Walkers policies are working.
From the average number of jobs in 2010 to the end of the year, 14,800 jobs had been created which have been included in Governor Walker’s
numbers.
When I do the math the difference between the years is 17,600 so he’s maybe adding in the January preliminary number,
which are subject to change.
So to prove Governor Walker’s policies are working you need to take credit for jobs created the year before coming into office and credit for jobs
where the number is subject to change.
Is losing 9,700 private sector jobs moving the economy in the right direction when the “average state” should have created over 40,000+
jobs?
Non Farm (Total jobs)
Dec 2011 2,719,800 December 2011 2,719,800 Dec 2010 2,740,800 January 2011 2,744,800 (21,000)
(25,000)
Government
Dec 2011 405,900 December 2011 405,900Dec 2010 417,200 January 2011 416,100
(11,300) (10,200)
Private
Dec 2011 2,313,900 December 2011 2,313,900Dec 2010 2,323,600 January 2011 2,328,700 (9,700)
(14,800)
The difference of 1,100 government employees between Dec 2010 and Jan 2011, I did the year from Dec to Dec.
to show the difference between the years If you start in January you don’t get the January number in the final
number because the January number comes from December.
Whether it’s non-farm, government or private sector, regardless of how you do it, whether it’s December or
January how can you claim.
“Number of Wisconsinites employed grew by over 11,600 last year.”
Go to the links and do the math, I come up with 17,600 as the average between 2010 and 2011, not 18,800.
The numbers he’s using just don’t add up.
20,000 fewer people are earning a paycheck, paying income taxes, spending money in our economy.
How can 20,000 more people competing for jobs while collecting unemployment compensation show
Wisconsin’s economy is undeniably headed in the right direction?
Numerous studies have shown Collective Bargaining makes a work place more efficient when employees
have a say in their job.
Is putting all of the power in the hand of a few people the best way to create an efficient work place?
We’ve replaced seniority (if someone is going to be laid off) with a system where a few people get to pick
and choose who they want to let go.
Does this sound like a system which could be riddled with abuse?
What safe guards have been put in place?
When employees lost Collective Bargaining, they lost job security.
Is who has Packer tickets the best way to determine who keeps their job?
Starting in July Government workers started paying more for their benefits.
Would it affect your spending losing 10% of your pay if you’re the one having thousand of dollars taken out
of your paycheck?
If Wisconsin was so anti business in 2010, why did we gain 28,200 jobs and lose (9,700) in 2011 when we supposedly became a pro business state under
Governor Walker?
If Governor Doyle had 15 Felony indictments between his staffs/associates for using an illegal secret
computer network, collecting campaign funds on the taxpayer’s time and other illegal activities.
Would you believe Governor Doyle knew nothing about it?
Does it bother you Alex (big business) writes our laws?
Can you explain how you can cut $800 million dollars a year out of education while claiming
you’re putting more money into the class room?
From when Governor Walker took office in Jan. 2011 to Jan. 2012 Wisconsin lost 13,400 government
employees. (1)
Is claiming you prevented major layoffs being honest?
I think there are 11,300 less government workers in 2011 700 Fed 1,400 State 9,200 Local
Depending upon which number you use. The difference in line 25 “government” says (10,000)
between January to December. The charts which break it down by Federal, State, local add up to
(10,200), but when you do it from December 2010 to December 2011 it’s (11,300)
Governor Walker has government workers paying more for their benefits and eliminates Collective
Bargaining because people in the private sector are hurting.
Instead of helping the people who are hurting by creating living wage jobs, is the solution to our
problem to drag other people down?
With 130,000+ fewer Wisconsin residents working than in 2007, could this be one of the
reasons to explain the budget deficit Governor Walker inherited?
Under Governor Walker there have been major cuts made to programs such as the
Homestead Tax Credit, Earned Income Tax Credit and Badger Care, programs which help
lower income people.
How many people need to die so we can give tax breaks to corporations?
Is it possible decisions were made for political reason?
One of Governor Walker’s core principles articulated in his State of the State Speech is that Government
doesn’t create jobs, people create jobs.
So why did Governor Walker give away over $100 million taxpayer dollars to a private corporation to
create 650 jobs in Superior Wisconsin building airplanes?
The first bill passed upon coming into office was a tax break for corporations for job creation which cost
taxpayers $115+ million dollars, even though it would appear it didn’t create any jobs.
Is this what you’d call a waste of taxpayer money?
Why did Senator Fitzgerald claim it was Governor Doyle’s fault that WI taxpayers now have to pay $84 million dollars to repair the track and train station in
Milwaukee that was originally going to be paid for with the Federal dollars?
Wasn’t it Governor Walker who turned the Federal money down and said he thought he could get the
Feds to reallocate the money for the Milwaukee train station?
Wisconsin taxpayers paid $70+ million dollar for train cars to be used between Milwaukee and Chicago.
Did we really put these cars into storage to avoid having to pay the maintenance cost of these cars?
Under Governor Walker it was estimated 60,000 people will be taken off of Badger Care.
If the average visit to the emergency room is $1,000, is adding more people to the ranks of the uninsured really the best way to save money in health care?
Can you name one business school which teaches the best way to motive someone to work hard and do a good job is to let them know it doesn’t matter how hard you work, or how good of a job you do, the
longer you work here the less you get paid?
Could this begin to explain why our government is dysfunctional?
As Governor Walker goes after Collective Bargaining
Aren’t we really getting rid of our best employees?
You can see by the jobs numbers the impact on our economy by having government workers pay more
for their benefits while taking away their job security.
Considering our current budget deficit and the deficit in the next budget, if you have a choice, are you better off having you or your neighbor loses their job, your
house loses another $10k in value, should government workers take another 10% pay cut, a tax
increase or what would you cut?
What other explanation is there for the job loss in July?
We won’t know until the Spring of 2013 how accurate the preliminary job numbers are for 2012,
considering by June of 2011 they claimed Wisconsin had created over 41,000 jobs when the real number
turned out to be 12,000.
Should we believe the number we hear each month?
Is creating uncertainly in people’s lives, the best way to get them to spend their money which is going to help
create jobs?
Should Governor Walker have skimmed $25 million dollars from Wisconsin’s share of the national bank
settlement intended for home owners who were defrauded by the banks?
We lifted the income requirements for sending kids to charter schools. They estimate over 1,000 more WI students this year and 2,000 students next year will
use the program.
Governor Walker said we can’t afford $2 million a year for a train which would have created thousands of
jobs, but we can afford over $7 million dollars a year to send kids to private schools?
Wisconsin spends almost $500 million dollars a year more than Minnesota on prisons, yet both states
have comparable crime rates.
If we were to use Minnesota as an example of what to do, this could save us more than the cost of having
state workers pay more for their pensions and health
care without dividing the state.
Instead of attacking workers rights, why not make government more effective?
Under the new law Governor Walker claims will stop frivolous law suits, since a law suit could cost at
least $150,000, won’t the new law actually stop all law suits, since an attorney can only be paid 3 times the
amount of the suit.
When you’re the one who has had $5,000 dollars of unauthorized car repair done to your car, will you be
happy to pay the bill?
Won’t this promote unscrupulous business’s to pad the bill?
Consider these two variables; the quantity of dollars you have and the value of the dollar. Every year you
received from the Bush tax cuts 3% more of your income, the dollar lost 4.75% in value.
The loss of the value of the dollar affects how much things cost, while decreasing the value of everything
you own, at the same time we added trillions of dollars to our national debt because of the tax cut.
Would you be better off having fewer dollars with the dollar being worth more and paying our bills?
When the price of a barrel of oil changes for no reason, the reason my be the value of the dollar changed.
If since the year 2000 the dollar has lost 50 percent of it’s value and today gas cost $4 a gallon.
Aren’t you really paying $2 a gallon in the year 2000 dollars?
Wages in the private sector have been stagnate or declining since Ronald Regan was in office.
Instead of focusing on lowering taxes wouldn’t our energy be better spent on how to increase people’s
wages?
We have record deficits because of the Bush tax cuts, two wars which weren’t paid for and we just went
through a recession.
Is the best way to pay our bills another tax break for corporations, millionaires and billionaires?
As the price of thing goes up including energy, as equipment is replaced or repaired, as building or
roads need maintenance, won’t the cost of over head for government increase?
This would mean higher taxes or should we neglect our responsibilities so we don’t raise taxes.
In the State of the State speech Governor Walker said each small business should hire another worker.
Is that his plan to create jobs?
Have you hired someone to do some work you don’t need done
Why Government workers need collective bargainingIn Johnson Creek WI they had two Department of Public Works Crewpersons. (street
workers) When the budget was signed both took a cut in pay to pay more for there health insurance and retirement. I’ve been told the average employee took a 9 to 10
percent pay cut.
Employee 1 (crewperson) was being paid $20.22 an hour after working for the village for over ten years. Employee 2 (crewperson) was being paid $19.73 an hour and had
worked for the village for over seven years.
Both were laid off (12/31/2011) and were told they could apply for the jobs of DPW Crew Chief which paid $17.79 an hour and DWP Laborer 2 for $14.74
Employee 1 didn’t apply. Employee 2 applied and was hired as Crew Chief but resigned just over 3 and a half months later
Two village employees who after 17 years of honest hard work were fired so each household could save a few dollars.
This is what we do to the people who work for us? You go from crewperson to crewperson chief and it comes with a pay cut after getting the opportunity to pay
more for your benefits.
You wonder why we need unions to protect workers. Is this a race to the bottom?
Can you give me one example of a community which has adopted conservative values and had it lead to
prosperity in the community?
I have asked several librarians if there is a book about a community who in a time of despair, high unemployment, falling home values, a migration of people out of the
area. Where they cut government spending, lowered the pay of government employees, cut the regulations on business and in a matter of time jobs started
being created. People started coming back and home values went up.
Several Librarian’s looked while I waited. I had one librarian call me at home 7 hours later to tell me she was giving up. Even though she couldn’t find it, she said “it
doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist”.
I would love to read this book. If you know of one example of one community where the conservative approach has worked to create prosperity in a community,
please let me know. Does this approach benefits the individual at the expense of the community and if this approach did work, why aren’t there hundreds of
examples.
Would you believe creating prosperity in a community has nothing to do with raising or lowering taxes? It’s making better choices with
the money you have. Not creating a mess which you later have to come back and clean up. They call it a upstream approach to
problem solving. You invest into your future with better decisions.
Try reading the book the Natural Step for Communities. It’s dated material from the recession of the 80’s. If you would like to read
something more to date try the free book “Revolution of the Middle”
I’m in a group who is organizing a on line book discussion group. Consider joining.
I have an idea how to make job creation self funding while creating a source of funding for our schools
which doesn’t involve a new tax.
Help people help themselves.
Create a place for people who are looking for work to organize themselves into a groups to form a businesses. Expect each person to come up with some of
there own money, maybe a $1,000 each. Once they are a legitimate business which meets a certain criteria provide matching funds.
Create employee owned cooperatives which in their business have a percentage of
the profits going to venture capital for others to start their business with a percentage of the profits also going to our schools to create a source of income
for our schools other than property tax owners.
You create a pyramid of businesses which create more businesses which also give back to the community.
As a business owner if the community has stake in the success of your business, I have to believe your business will be much better off. Tell me your not going to
have customers?
Self funding job creation where in time schools receive a source of funding which doesn’t involve the tax payer.
It creates a win win situation for everyone. As demand for employees increases so will the wages of the workers. As an employee owner you personally profit from
your own work. Your not just working for a wage.
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(1) Wisconsin Preliminary Job NumbersRight side of the chart (Private) Estimated numbers and loss of
government January 2011 to January 2012https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2012/unemployment/120308_january_state.pdf
(2) Access to spread sheet on total jobs 2010 -2011SA. SA is Seasonally Adjusted Subtract line 25 (Government) from line
2 (Non Farm) to get Total Private Sector Jobs
http://worknet.wisconsin.gov/worknet/downloads.aspx?menuselection=da&pgm=CES
(3) National Jobs Numbers. 1/50 for Wisconsin Averagehttp://www.barackobama.com/jobsrecord?source=20120205_pg_dncfull&utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_campaign=20120205_pg_dncfull
“Two Years ago Republicans promised to focus first on jobs and help getting WI moving in the right direction. I’m proud we kept that promise.” Scott Fitzgerald R – Juneau
Watertown Daily Times March 17th 2012
“Wisconsin’s economy is undeniably headed in the right direction. It moved in the right
direction in 2011, and it will keep moving in the right direction in 2012.”
Department of Workforce Development Secretary Reginald Newson
Media Release March 16th, 2012
Don’t believe what I’m telling you. Go to the charts and do the math yourself
Either the facts don’t get reported or they are reported incorrectly. These two quotes are perfect examples.
If the year before you came into office your state had positive job growth, the nation as a whole had positive job growth, once your policies went into effect your state suffered major job
losses, how in the world can you say your moving your state in the right direction after claiming you promised to focus on
jobs?
Maybe someone needs to ask them what the right direction is?
Here’s my math.
• This is cut and pasted from source (1) half way down the page• https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2012/unemployment/
120308_january_state.pdf
• The estimated is what they said was happening at the time. The benchmark are from employer quarterly reports, revision is the difference
• • Private• Estimated Benchmark Revision• January 2011 +11,300 +5,100 (6,200)• February +3,000 +2,500 (500)• March 2011 +7,600 +4,400 (3,200)• April 2011 +3,600 500) (4,100)• May 2011 +900 +500 (400)• June 2011 +14,800 +0 (14,800)• July 2011 (10,800) (12,300) (1,500)• August 2011 (200) (1,800) (1,600)• September 2011 (800) +300 +1,100• October 2011 (1,400) (300) +1,100• November 2011 ( (10,600) (7,300) +3,300• December 2011 (3,900) (300) +3,600
• 2011 Total estimated (preliminary) Job growth for the year for the chart.
• .• Jan 11,300• Feb 14,300• March21,900• April 25,500• May 26,400• June 41,200• July 30,400 • August 30,200 • Sept 29,400• Oct 28,000• Nov 17,400• Dec 13,500
• File name 2010-2011 SA (seasonally adjusted)• http://worknet.wisconsin.gov/worknet/downloads.aspx?
menuselection=da&pgm=CES• To get private sector job subtract line 25 (government) from line 2 (non-farm)
• Jim Doles Numbers You need Dec. 2009 to get Jan. 2010
• 2009• Dec 2,295,400
• 2010• J 2,295,000 (400)• F 2,297,000 2,000• M 2,299,600 2,600• A 2,303,400 3,800• M 2,302,300 (1,100)• J 2,302,800 500• J 2,309,300 6,500• A 2,313,700 4,400• S 2,314,100 400• O 2,321,900 7,800• N 2,324,100 2,200• D 2,323,600 (500)
• 2010 Total Job growth for the year for chart
• Jan (400)• Feb 1,600• March4,200• April 8,000• May 6,900• June 7,400• July 13,900• August 18,300• Sept 18,700• Oct 26,500• Nov 28,700• Dec 28,200
• 2011 Gov. Walker Benchmark “Actual”
• Private sector Change + or -• J 2,328,700 5,100• F 2,331,200 2,500• M 2,335,600 4,400• A 2,335,100 (500)• M 2,335,600 500• J 2,335,600 0• J 2,323,300 (12,300)• A 2,321,500 (1,800)• S 2,321,800 300• O 2,321,500 (300)• N 2,314,200 (7,300)• D 2,313,900 (300)
• 2011 Total Job growth for the year for chart
• Jan 5,100• Feb 7,600• March12,000• April 11,500• May 12,000• June 12,000• July (300)• August (2,100)• Sept (1,800)• Oct (2,100)• Nov (9,400)• Dec (9,700)
• 2011 Federal Numbers Federal Wi 1/50 of Fed.• Jan, 119,000 2,380• Feb, 257,000 5,140• Mar, 261,000 5,220• Apr, 264,000 5,280• May 108,000 2,180• June 102,000 2,040• July 175,000 3,500• Aug, 52,000 1,040• Sept, 216,000 4,320• Oct. 139,000 2,780• Nov. 178,000 3,560• Dec. 234,000 4,680
• Dec 2009 You need Dec to figure out January. January 2010 to June 2010• • D 2,716,000 • 420,600• 2,295,400
• 2010•• J 2,716,900 • 421,900• 2,295,000
• F 2,714,500 • 417,500• 2,297,000
• M 2,718,000 • 418,400• 2,299,600
• A 2,725,300 • 421,900• 2,303,400
• M 2,728,000 • 425,700• 2,302,300
• J 2,723,000 • 420,200• 2,302,800
• 2010 July to December
• J 2,727,200 • 417,900• 2,309,300
• A 2,731,500 • 417,800• 2,313,700
• S 2,729,400 • 415,300• 2,314,100
• O 2,740,900 • 419,000• 2,321,900
• N 2,743,000 • 418,900• 2,324,100
• D 2,740,800 • 417,200• 2,323,600
• 2011 January to June
• J 2,744,800 • 416,100• 2,328,700
• F 2,750,200 • 419,000• 2,331,200
• M 2,754,500 • 418,900• 2,335,600•• A 2,753,400 • 418,300• 2,335,100
• M 2,751,500 • 415,900• 2,335,600
• J 2,742,500 • 406,900• 2,335,600
• 2011 July to December
• J 2,738,800 • 415,500• 2,323,300
• A 2,729,000 • 407,500• 2,321,500
• S 2,734,000 • 412,200• 2,321,800
• O 2,731,200 • 409,700• 2,321,500
• N 2,719,400 • 405,200• 2,314,200
• D 2,719,800 • 405,900• 2,313,900
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