wikipedia sources: on the books and on the ground

WP SOURCES On the books and on the ground

Cartoon by Carlos Latuff in the public domain https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wake_up_Egypt.png; Screenshot from Al Jazeera English Live TV http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/;ʼFile:Police in civilian cloth beating a protester in Cairo 1.pngʼ from Al Jazeera CC BY 3.0

Heather Ford

Tuesday, May 1, 2012

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wake_up_Egypt.png

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wake_up_Egypt.png

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

1. the project2. sources on the books3. sources on the ground4. some conclusions5. design recommendations


Sept Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug

ethnographic research | user testing

2011 2012

development of SwiftRiver

Understanding sources/WikiSweeper

by: in collaboration with: funded by:


problems: 1. collaboratively track news sources 2. find reliable sources in unfamiliar media environments3. confusion around the reliability of social media sources


design goal:build a system to help Wikipedians and/or other knowledge workers to discover, manage and verify (social media) sources during rapidly evolving events


research goal:discover how (social media) sources are chosen, managed and verified in rapidly evolving WP articles


</the project>Tuesday, May 1, 2012

<sources_on_the_books>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png CC BY NC by xkcd

xkcd

WP:SOURCE (or “Verifiability not truth”)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png

WP:RS (or “reliable sources”)

book author publisher+ +


• Number of people involved

• Number of citations in citation indexes

• type of article

• “published” status

• primary, secondary or tertiary sources

Specific to news reporting:

• identity of the author

• specificity and depth

• verified

• circular sourcing

• context

• reputation



Primary sources Secondary sources Tertiary sourceseye witness accounts

directly involved in an eventsecond hand accounts

one step removed from an event

summarize primary and secondary sources

diarywork of art

political decision

review articlejournal article

encyclopediaother compendia

textbook

Can be used but only with care. Any interpretation of primary source material

requires a reliable secondary source

Articles may make an analytic or evaluative claim only if it has been published

by a reliable source

Reliably published tertiary sources can be helpful in

providing broad summaries of topics that involve many

primary and secondary sources, esp. when sources

contradict each other.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:PSTS#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources





context is critical





diarywork of art

political decision



textbook

Can be used but only with care. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source

Articles may make an analytic or evaluative claim only if it has been published by a reliable source

Reliably published tertiary sources can be helpful in providing broad summaries of topics that involve many primary and secondary sources, esp when sources contradict each other.


context is critical





diarywork of art

political decision



textbook




journalism


context is critical





diarywork of art

political decision



textbook




journalism

WikipediaTuesday, May 1, 2012

</sources_on_the_books>Tuesday, May 1, 2012

<sources_on_the_ground>


the source <original version+author> of the page can play a significant role


https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011_Egyptian_revolution&oldid=409962868

Created by The Egyptian Liberal at 13:26 UTC, 25 January, 2011




The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions[1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality%22%20%5Co%20%22Police%20brutality


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_emergency%22%20%5Co%20%22State%20of%20emergency


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_inflation%22%20%5Co%20%22Food%20inflation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech%22%20%5Co%20%22Freedom%20of%20speech


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_conditions%22%20%5Co%20%22Living%20conditions


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosni_Mubarak%22%20%5Co%20%22Hosni%20Mubarak




The 2011 Egyptian protests are a continuing series of street demonstrations taking place throughout Egypt from January 2010 onwards with organisers counting on the Tunisian uprising to inspire the crowds to mobilize. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, State of Emergency Laws, unemployment, the lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, freedom of speech and poor living conditions[1]. The protests main goal is to oust President Hosni Mubarak who has been in power for more than 30 years. While localised protests were already commonplace over previous years, major protests and riots erupted all over the country starting in "25 January" (the date set by Egyptian opposition groups, celebrities and football supporters for a major demonstration)[1].




















http://bit.ly/ggdZt4




https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Khaled_Mohamed_Saeed_holding_up_a_tiny,_flailing,_stone-faced_Hosni_Mubarak.png

File:Khaled Mohamed Saeed holding up a tiny, flailing, stone-faced Hosni Mubarak.png

(Cartoon) We are all Khaled Said #Jan25

From Latuff on Twitpic: https://twitpic.com/3swvnr

Caption: Khaled Mohamed Saeed holding up a tiny, flailing, stone-faced Hosni Mubarak





https://twitpic.com/tag/Jan25

https://twitpic.com/tag/Jan25

https://twitpic.com/3swvnr

https://twitpic.com/3swvnr

User:The Egyptian Liberal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Egyptian_Liberal 3 April, 2012


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Egyptian_Liberal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Egyptian_Liberal

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Police_in_civilian_cloth_beating_a_protester_in_Cairo_1.png

File:Police in civilian cloth beating a protester in Cairo 1.png

Screenshot from Al Jazeera video: 29 January 2011 by the Egyptian Liberal




Where the editors atI feel like I have been editing this page by myself for a while. This would have been cool if It was not about current event. The infos keep coming and honestly, I cant keep up. SO PLEASE HELP! -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree that more editors need to come and help. However, and please don't be offended in any way, but I think you should definitely let other editors take the lead, Egyptian Liberal. Although you have done a PHENOMENAL job so far, due to the fact that this issue seems very near and dear to your heart, I feel that perhaps you should step back and let those editors who may have a more objective view take the lead, with you offering guidance and advice. I would also like to tell you that as a fellow Deist, I am not praying for your compatriots, but I am however keeping them and their struggle in mind. I wish you and all of Egypt the best of luck in achieving democracy. Edit: BTW I am not editing this article because I support the protesters vehemently and do not feel that I could maintain a NPOV Lilly (talk) 02:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I completely understand your concern. Some of my friends have hurt during the protests so I might too invested in the article. I have been trying to be as neutral as I much as I can I am still a human. That's why I asked for more editors to come and help to make sure I am not leaning on way or another. It helps that I blow most of anger on twitter and facebook when I get or read bad news. But I think I owe the people who are protesting and those who have passed away to tell their story from a NPOV. I am not nor can I be in Egypt due my university so that my way of standing up to Mubarak and tell him I shall not be silenced and I shall tell the world what happened. I would be happy not to take the lead. That why I asked Lihaas among others to add certain parts that I know I can not do. like the wael part due to my personal relationship with him. I hope you would join us in editing tho. If you maintain a NPOV, trust me, other editors will let you know (me included). P.S Always happy to meet another fellow Deist-- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad that you understand and I feel that you have been very neutral so far. You have been doing a FABULOUS job, and I will try to help when I can. Perhaps I will try to write the timeline part. That seems pretty hard to be biased on that page/section. You are right, we do owe those that have died. We owe them a voice. Inshallah, no more people will die, and inshallah Mubarak will be out soon. Salaam. Lilly (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

from Archive 5 of the 2011 Egyptian Revolution Talk page


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:The_Egyptian_Liberal


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:The_Egyptian_Liberal


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Lilly_granger


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:Lilly_granger




https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Lihaas

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Lihaas









primary sources are gradually replaced by secondary sources


11 February 16:04 UTC Tuesday, May 1, 2012

1 year later: 13:27 UTC 25 Jan 2012Tuesday, May 1, 2012

the cite is not always the same as the source


source: live television


verification by sources on the ground

Wael Ghonim is released and there is a question about him being identified as the Facebook admin of one of the protest groups:

I just spoke to Wael and no, he is still the admin of the page -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:57, 8 February 2011






tags provide cues/warnings regarding the “in progress” nature of the article


</sources_on_the_ground>Tuesday, May 1, 2012


William Beutler: http://thewikipedian.net/2011/04/01/wiki-fools/

book author publisher+ +


http://thewikipedian.net/2011/04/01/wiki-fools/

http://thewikipedian.net/2011/04/01/wiki-fools/

The blurring of boundaries along traditional RS lines:

- blogs can host reliable secondary source authors- Twitter can provide access to an authentic primary source showing how individuals reacted- Twitter RT by someone like Andy Carvin can be seen as a secondary source


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard




Pic by Uwe Kils CC BY SA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceberg.jpg

the cite is not always the same as the source


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceberg.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceberg.jpg

</conclusions>Tuesday, May 1, 2012

working from collaboratively managing sources already happening


</design recommendations>Tuesday, May 1, 2012

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wikipedia sources: on the books and on the ground

Technology

poor living

civilian cloth

providing

egyptian opposition

protests main

reliable secondary

2011 egyptian

egyptian liberal