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NERF Nursing Oral History Project 1950s/1960s Abstract Janice Wenn Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 1 of 5 Interviewer : Kate Prebble Abstracter: Kate Prebble Equipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital Photo 1 Photo 2 000'32" WHAKAPAPA Explains family. Born in GREYTOWN. Originally from TE KOPI in Southern WAIRARAPA. On Father's side, Great- great Grandfather whaler, Great-great Grandmother member of hapu at NGATI HINEWAKA, whakapapa to NGATI KAHUNGUNU KI WAIRARAPA. On mother's side, MARGARET MARTHA KINSELLA from MARTINBOROUGH. Explains family background. Grandfather Irish, born in Australia, his father a convict from IRELAND who settled near Mildura, New South Wales. Grandfather left home early, joined BLACK WATCH in United Kingdom, fought in BOER WAR then came to New Zealand. Bought farm, married local woman, had two daughters. 003'05" FAMILY CONNECTIONS WITH NURSING AND HOSPITALS 1

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Page 1:   · Web viewDescribes starting at NEW PLYMOUTH HOSPITAL, taken without interview, maybe because only applicant with UNIVERSITY ENTRANCE. Explains preparation, detailed requirements,

NERF Nursing Oral History Project 1950s/1960sAbstract

Janice Wenn

Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 1 of 5Interviewer: Kate PrebbleAbstracter: Kate PrebbleEquipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital

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000'32" WHAKAPAPAExplains family. Born in GREYTOWN. Originally from TE KOPI in Southern WAIRARAPA. On Father's side, Great-great Grandfather whaler, Great-great Grandmother member of hapu at NGATI HINEWAKA, whakapapa to NGATI KAHUNGUNU KI WAIRARAPA.

On mother's side, MARGARET MARTHA KINSELLA from MARTINBOROUGH. Explains family background. Grandfather Irish, born in Australia, his father a convict from IRELAND who settled near Mildura, New South Wales. Grandfather left home early, joined BLACK WATCH in United Kingdom, fought in BOER WAR then came to New Zealand. Bought farm, married local woman, had two daughters.

003'05" FAMILY CONNECTIONS WITH NURSING AND HOSPITALSMother a nurse, started training MASTERTON HOSPITAL, suspended but taken back and nursed GREYTOWN HOSPITAL, met Father, a gardener and ambulance driver at hospital.

Explains hospital and nursing connections during childhood. Mother's nursing colleagues would visit. Mother sometimes home nursed for local doctors. Father worked at Greytown Hospital 25 years, left to buy fruit farm when Janice was student

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nurse. Family often visited Hospital Matron. Father had five brothers, nurses liked to visit, one married nurse from Greytown.

Brought up in Greytown area, two sisters, one brother, 35 first cousins. Did not need to go outside family for friends. Oldest in family therefore responsibilities. Some cousins same age, got on well, lots of baby-sitting for younger cousins.

006'55" SCHOOL, UNIVERSITY AND CHOOSING NURSINGPrimary school in Greytown, then GREYTOWN DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOL, one of few to get SCHOOL CERTIFICATE. School phased out, went to WAIRARAPA COLLEGE for 6th Form and Upper 6th Form.

Wanted to go teaching but too young for TEACHER'S’ COLLEGE, went to VICTORIA UNIVERSITY to do Arts degree but enjoyed sports and social life so not very successful first year. Mother decided should go nursing, wanted Dunedin but Father said too far away. Mother decided on NEW PLYMOUTH HOSPITAL where they produced 'good nurses' and 'educated ladies'.

009'45" STARTING NEW PLYMOUTH HOSPITALDescribes starting at NEW PLYMOUTH HOSPITAL, taken without interview, maybe because only applicant with UNIVERSITY ENTRANCE.

Explains preparation, detailed requirements, such as number of knickers, hand knitted blue cardigan and hand-knitted pink bed jacket. Matron inspected wardrobe second day, held up knickers, 'The wind will blow up the legs of these knickers. Replace them'. Very controlling.

Began 1952 at 19 years old. Comments other hospitals had similar rules and regulations. Mother knitted bed jacket, she knitted cardigan and embroidered petticoats with rose buds. Started quickly, decided November or December, started January, was Number 13 in class, a new class began each six weeks.

012'45" PRELIMINARY SCHOOLDescribes first six weeks in BLOCK, a lot of time cleaning in NURSES’ HOME. Before class each day had cleaning duties, bathrooms, toilets and hallways and exercises.

Explains PHYSICAL EDUCATION, wore black Italian cloth bloomers. If dry, on tennis courts, if wet, in recreation hall. Supervised by physiotherapist. Approach holistic but ‘on their terms’.

Very restricted leaves in first year; could not leave Taranaki

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without permission of Matron. 'We were cosseted in a way. We were certainly well looked after and well fed’. Well appointed rooms and lounges. Recreation Hall had grand piano, allowed to have key to play.

015'05" OTHER STUDENTSDescribes other nurses; girls straight from school, some had worked as hospital aides at smaller hospitals. Explains where other students were from. No other Maori. Comments on agreement amongst Matrons for controlled numbers of Maori students at each hospital. Policy not rescinded for many years. Approximately four other Maori on staff.

Comments on being Maori: 'I never noticed any difference', but clumped together, some played hockey, not really accepted. Helped each other on duty.

Comments that hospital attracted middle- class nursing students. ‘I would have been only one in my class whose father was a labourer’.Comments that hospital attracted middle class nursing students. ‘I would have been only one in my class whose father was a labourer’.

018'31" WARD WORK AND PROGRESSIONExplains first six weeks block, went to wards Saturday mornings to clean bed pans, as juniors assigned mundane tasks, give tea, count crockery, made beds, occasionally sponged patient. 'A progressive training’, started with the tea trolleys and bed pans, ‘worked your way up’.

In between ward work, had study days and blocks of learning. Sat Junior States and then progressed according to ability. Explains she progressed at fast rate. By second year was acting staff nurse, not really fair, felt marginalised in own class.

021'05" AREAS OF NURSING EXPERIENCE AND CLASSESExplains worked in medical surgical wards but a lot of time in paediatrics. Very short time in community.

In class, emphasis on anatomy and physiology and ‘a nursing process’, very task orientated. ‘You nursed people for their symptoms rather than for their family’.

Mentions tutor sisters, some well qualified but some only had ‘one year's experience 20 times’, taught same thing each year. Remembers very young doctor teaching anatomy and physiology, made his life miserable.

Did invalid cookery - classes always held at night by a home science teacher. Tells story of making cheese custard, 'This is

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not very good, Nurse'. Friend dropped hers, took Janice’s took hers up and got 93%

024'00" CLASSES IN BLOCKSExplains blocks, sometimes a month long but mostly shorter. Always worked Saturday morning. Comments on whether New PlymouthHospital was advanced, accepted change but within their parameters. Philosophy of School did not change. ‘They were there to educate women’. No male nurses during this time, almost contrived - 'you accepted that because it was part of the organisation that you had agreed to work for'.

026'00" RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER NURSESExplains relationships - fairly cohesive group but with some factions. Was somewhat different because had friendships outside. Father visited regularly, quite unusual. ‘He would suddenly arrive. I would go out and have dinner with him’. If day off, would visit relatives. 'He kind of missed me I think’.

Would go home for annual leave, ‘once a year, that was it’. Sometimes would go away with school friend. Other nurses would go with each other but ‘I always felt I needed a break’.

028'30" ROSTER SYSTEM UNIFORMSExplains shifts, one week mornings, one week afternoons, block of night duty for 2-3 weeks. Never had to go to class after night shift. "I tThink they looked after us pretty well’.

Describes white uniforms but changed into blue uniforms to go for meals. In half hour break, had to change twice. Also wore blue uniforms off duty. Given uniforms clean, two blue uniforms, eight white, white shoes and white stockings, given new stockings each six months.

030'33" PAY, SOCIAL LIFE, HIERARCHYRemembers first pay for fortnight £2.6.8. Managed well on that, bought RALEIGH SPORTS BIKES. On pay night, went to movies for one shilling, fish & chips another shilling. Accommodation and meals paid for. On a par with other women's pay.

Explains social life, some nurses had boyfriends, belonged to drama group; most went to church, clubs, movies, beaches. Hospital provided picnic lunches.

Mixed with nurses in classes below and above but a hierarchy. Had to stand up for anyone senior, hands behind back when they spoke, never go ahead through a door before those senior to you.Explains dining room, had table service, waited on. Main meal in evening, silver service, vegetable dishes on table.

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033'38" STAFFING, NURSING HIERARCHYNever felt short staffed. Ratio of one nurse to 6-8 patients on morning duty, fewer on afternoon duty. On night duty, senior on each ward and a runner between two wards and a NIGHT STAFF NURSE and SUPERVISOR.

Students stopped cleaning after first year, domestics did this. Mentions domestics scattering tealeaves on floor to sweep. Very militaristic, all beds in line. If did not do something right, would have to re-do it. Sometimes told could do better.

Explains relationships with SISTERS, held in great regard, would defer to them but not know them personally. Sisters were older, when became charge nurse, was one of youngest at 21 years old.

None of charge nurses or supervisors married, seemed very old. ‘You would never be anything but professional in your conversations with them’. Suggests that supervisors’ personal relationships were with each other. Those who married ceased to be part of group.

037'17" INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPSComments on intimate relationships between women, 'we thought of these in a different way than you would now'. You thought, ‘maybe they had no one else’ and that’s who they relate to and maybe they have the same interests. Recalls two women who continued relationship for at least 50 years, shared interest in embroidery, when retired, had flats in same building, took turns cooking for each other.

Students could get engaged but not married. If so, had to leave. Not many left. Not many got married, none pregnant.

039'16" GAINING RESPONSIBILITYExplains moving up quickly, acting staff nurse for approximately half of training years, responsible for other staff and patient care, 'although I was with my class, I was not part of it', compensated by having friends outside hospital, and places to go on days off.

Did not go to other hospitals. Other Taranaki nurses would come to New Plymouth Hospital.

040'32" EXAMINATIONS, SPECIALITIESExplains FINAL EXAMS and STATE EXAMS, practical and written. Written were three hours. Describes practical exam such as setting up equipment, would have to talk about the treatment.

Had TUBERCULOSIS ward, the only specialist ward; isolation

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ward that functioned as a geriatric ward, also medical, surgical, paediatrics and maternity wards.

Comments on growing recognition of holistic care, including family in care, especially care of sick child.

042'45" GRADUATIONMentions good examination results. On graduation, became staff nurse in theatre, then relieved as charge nurse of women's surgical, busiest ward in hospital. Not keen, so decided to go to MELBOURNE to do MIDWIFERY.

Explains process of GRADUATION, sat HOSPITAL EXAM, then STATE EXAM; changed uniforms. Ward Sister wore to green uniform with bow under chin, 'a ritualistic progression'. Ward Sister wore cap with bow to side, and supervisor wore bow underneath.

Hospital Board gave traditional graduation ceremony, received medal from BEATRICE CAMPBELL. Ball funded by nurses, allowed to invite two guests, vetted by Matron.

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Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 2 of 5Interviewer: Kate PrebbleAbstracter: Kate PrebbleEquipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital

000'27" MOVE TO MELBOURNE - MIDWIFERYComments on decision to move to Melbourne. Looked for hospital that could offer similar training as ROTUNDA HOSPITAL in DUBLIN, chose The ROYAL WOMEN’S HOSPITAL, MELBOURNE, a one- year training in midwifery. An intense training, approx 50 students, worked extremely long hours, started 6am till 6pm, or had break at lunchtime, came back 6pm to 8pm. Night shift 8pm-6am. Started with block classes, then had study hours/lecturers - had to find the time.

004'00" ROYAL MELBOURNE WOMEN’S HOSPITALDiscusses Royal Melbourne Women’s Hospital; remembers bush fire; burnt gum leaves coming through window of LABOUR WARD.

Recalls high delivery rate; not hard to get the 20 deliveries required. Staffing ratio not as good as used to, so had to work harder.Explains system: women stayed only 48 hours then went home under the DISTRICT MIDWIFERY SERVICE. Catered for high Italian population, had to learn a bit of Italian and Greek - very mixed patient population. A lot of complicated pregnancies and deliveries; very big neonatal unit - up to 60 babies.

Tells stories: mishap with bottle cleaning machine on neonatal ward; bottle flew out open window, heard irate shouting from builder 12 floors down. Story of woman who delivered baby in doorway in delivery unit, ‘Don't worry dear, I have twelve more at home’. Baby was fine.Very pressured work, achieved well, but some strange experiences: woman went to party after delivering baby. Police came, asked about colour of woman's eyes. ‘I don't know. I deliver babies’.

006'45" MELBOURTNE, CONTND, RACISMLearned a lot, no pomp and ceremony when finished. Students from all over world, remembers it as an ‘action-packed year’. When time off, saw sights and went skiing.

First time experienced racism; people expected her to be slow. Heard comments such as, ‘She doesn't really known how to work' and 'What can you expect much of them?'.

008'18" TASMANIA, BUSH NURSING SERVICEDescribes move to NORTH-EASTERN SCOTTSDALE MEMORIAL

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HOSPITAL in TASMANIA as midwife, for one year, then joined TASMANIAN BUSH NURSING SERVICE, became BUSH NURSE.

Relates that married, had two children and continued as Bush Nurse. Shifted to HYDE or SOUTHPORT in Tasmania. Describes work: sole practitioner, managed everything from childbirth to death, very isolated, Southern-most tip of Tasmania. Little time off for childbirth, good support from housekeepers and community, ‘The people were very kind and tolerant of someone who had lived a different lifestyle to them’.Explains ‘different lifestyle’, for example taking children to the beach was unusual. Cared for ‘white’ Tasmanians, looked after family units, quite isolated. Stayed several years, an interesting experience, made good friends.

Sometimes relieved at COTTAGE HOSPITALS so midwives could take days off.

012'26" RETURN TO NEW ZEALAND - PLUNKET TRAININGDescribes return to New Zealand 1966, joined PUBLIC HEALTH NURSING SERVICE. Immediately sent to do PLUNKET training in Auckland: ‘very routinised’, on Departmental Bursaries of £10 per week, lived at KARITANE HOSPITAL, where did lectures and provided nursing services. Remembers nurses had to tear up old linen to make napkin liners, and make milk mixtures themselves. Complained to Department of Health, 'I wasn’t the most popular Plunket student', about standard of meals, and objected to walking behind Plunket nurse, carrying her bag, collecting 2/6d from patients and writing receipts, 'A terrible lot of wasted time'.

Was with other PUBLIC HEALTH NURSES also missing their children, would get home sometimes. Training was three months, ‘an interesting three months but not one that I really enjoyed’.

Comments on KARITANE NURSE students - 'good upper- middle- class people', had views about what they would and wouldn't do.

015'35" PUBLIC HEALTH NURSING, DARGAVILLEDescribes sequence of nursing positions: public health nurse (PHN) in Masterton, Diploma of Nursing in Wellington at SCHOOL OF ADVANCED NURSING STUDIES (SANS), public health nurse in DARGAVILLE, NURSE INSPECTOR for Ministry of Health in Auckland, INSTRUCTOR at SANS, Assistant Principal Nurse in Masterton.

Reflects on highlights of public health nursing in DARGAVILLE, in NGA PUHI. Describes role: beginning of group practice (primary health), Nurse Practitioner type role, went out to communities,

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up to WAIPOUA FOREST, got to know whanau. Able to phone in to general practitioner, explain situation and start treatment quickly, carried anti-biotic medication. Most clients were infants/early childhood clients and their whanau.

Also did DISTRICT NURSING in Dargaville: ‘quite heavy’, long- term patients, for example, stroke and muscular dystrophy. A varied caseload but exciting 'you could see you were making a difference’.

018'15" RECOGNITION OF MAORI NURSESComments on importance of being Maori as public health nurse; well received in community, got to places that pakeha could not, attended tangi, hui etc. Because had small children, got to know whanau easier. ‘A really great environment to be part of’, given lots of support, part of cultural groups, mentions MAORI WOMEN’S WELFARE LEAGUE - 'like having a position in the community that was quite special'.

020'15" DIPLOMA OF NURSINGMotivation to do Diploma, as part of preparation for Public Health Nursing, did 6 weekl programme at SANS, enjoyed explorartion, finding things out, decided would like to do Diploma.. Exciting year, 1968, explored all sorts of things, able to do research in community and look at community models. Notes branches on Nursing represented at SANS.Later, taught at SANS for four years but 'saw writinig on the wall' for SANS, responded to advertisemnent of vacancy in Masterton..

022'26" UNIVERSITY STUDYExplains how began university studies. With two children, could not attend night meetings, decided to study. Started with Education I and II extramurally. Returned to MASSEY UNIVERSITY after Diploma, did sociology and psychology. Finished 1973.

Reflects on experience of studying, it was convenient, all sorts of people studying but a lot of bias about nursing 'why don't you get back to your bedpans?'; after a while, tolerated because ‘you could actually think’. Majored in education and psychology.

Did DIPLOMA IN HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, then moved to NEW PLYMOUTH as CHIEF NURSE and did MASTERS extramurally. Travelled from New Plymouth to PALMERSTON NORTH for supervision. Mentions NANCY KINROSS was one supervisor. Completed 1983.

026'04" SANS EDUCATORComments on experience as educator at SANS, 'a bit controlling in a way'. Learned good things, gives example of a student who

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said, ‘we don't really want the outcome to be another eight Janice Wenns around the country’; learned to stop imposing own way and let things develop. Enjoyed students – ‘fresh and ready to cause a revolution in the nursing world’. Did not enjoy last period of time, found factions in SANS difficult.

028'18" CARPENTER REPORT -– RESISTANCEComments that CARPENTER REPORT being instituted when returned to Masterton (Assistant Principal Nurse). Describes attempts by Hospital Board to retain old nurse training system: directed her to put forward policy; put remit to NZNA conference but got no votes. Masterton had to conform. Comments on process Board went through to try to retain training.

Reflects the system today in Masterton, ‘own little nursing programme’ within the POLYTECHNIC, 'still that kind of parochialism’.

Employed first two COMPREHENSIVE NURSES in Masterton, had to prove their worth, very hard, 'really under the microscope'.

Explains Board’s concerns: only able to train enrolled nurses, could not retain good tutors, concerned about quality of polytechnic graduates, worried would lose control of outcomes.

031'30" NEW ZEALAND NURSES ORGANISATIONExplains relationship with NEW ZEALAND NURSES ORGANISATION (NZNO); involved until change in nursing structure when CHIEF NURSES became managers, could not see how could be professional nurse as well as manager, so parted with NZNO.

As student and staff nurse, very involved in NZNO on local committees.

033'50" PRINCIPAL NURSE, MASTERTONDiscusses return to MASTERTON as ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL NURSE, then PRINCIPAL NURSE 1976-81. First time in management, a learning experience, ‘showed me where power and control lay … it certainly didn’t lie with nursing’. Learned nurses had to present themselves in different light, compete with members of management team, could be administrators.

Reflects that grew into being manager but often difficult to get good ideas accepted because had not come from medical person or thought through from administrative point of view. Gives example when vying for money later in TARANAKI; could not just say, 'we want 10 new nurses', but had to build in numbers, costs, and other things. Example of learning when got ‘BEER AND BACCY TAX’ for community positions for Maori. Had

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forgotten to build in cost of vehicles, petrol and professional development. Was quite naïve, no help to learn these things. Hindered by expectation from others, 'what would nurses know about this anyway?'

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Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 3 of 5Interviewer: Kate PrebbleAbstracter: Kate PrebbleEquipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital

000'19" RETURN TO MASTERTON AS MAORIReflects on being Maori and returning to own area, 'a feeling that I belonged to the people, the Iwi', I needed to listen to what they had to say but some staff thought that Maori got better deal than others.

Remembers one incident when whanau invited to stay when visiting sick child: staff did not like this. A supervisor said, ‘why don't you invite the grandparents too?' Responded, ‘I've just sent someone down to get them from the train’. Whanau approach difficult for them to cope with.

Explains that because came from local iwi, an assumption that must be something wrong with her. Gives examples of trying to introduce change; tray system for meals, resisted by nurses who felt it was taking something away from them. Introduced wallpaper in corridors and coloured lino, ‘had a devastating effect on some people’. Describes funny incident: chose colour of paint for small room, misread chart, royal purple, 'cost me two crates of beer to get the men to paint it out’.

Mentions resistance to use of MAORI protocol, recalls taking MEDICAL SUPERINTENDENT to PAHIATUA to see waka being built. Superintendent amazed that he could go into area while she couldn’t because of being a woman.

'It was a difficult. I was trying to achieve something for the profession but I also had to recognise who I was'.

005'25" CHIEF NURSING OFFCIER, TARANAKI, MAORI SUPPORTExplains decision to move to TARANAKI as CHIEF NURSING OFFICER in 1981, time for change after five years, also old training ground but did not know it from Maori perspective. Shocked at things that had not changed: board floors in some wards, NIGHTINGALE WARDS. But TARANAKI BASE HOSPITAL was new. Lists hospitals included in Taranaki: Hawea, Stratford, Waitara, Opunake, Kaponga, but Patea was moving to Wanganui Health Board.

Comments on strength of ‘TARANAKI AUNTIES’: kaumatua who had grown up together, part of restoration of PARIHAKA. Strong women who ‘really believed in KAUPAPA MAORI’. Thanks Aunties who mentored, protected, supported through all sorts of things, ’absolutely magnificent’.

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Mentions MARJ ROKUPA, ‘a great influence in my life’. ‘That is where I got my education into kaupapa Maori’. Mentions common whakapapa with Taranaki. ‘They were absolutely magnificent to me’, became part of their whanau.

009'06" MAORI HEALTHExplains importance of position as Chief Nursing Officer to Maori health issues: equity of access, change, and recognition of things Maori in healthcare. Comments on connection with broader movements in Maori health, particularly WANGANUI. In TARANAKI, established Maori networks, strong members of NATIONAL COUNCIL OF MAORI NURSES, contributed to national strategies.

Mentions achievements – established funded Maori network around Taranaki, working with families, helping access, addressing health problems. Strove for equity, able to develop services. Explains that TUI ORA, a funder and provider of Maori health services in Taranaki, grew out of that period.

012'22" MAORI DEVELOPMENTSDescribes other Maori health developments: TU TAMA WAHINE, provides health and social services related to whanau violence. Maori nurses became assertive. Supported Maori nursing students through polytechnic (nursing) course.

Mentions WHAI ORA and MASON DURIE'S TE WHARE TAPA WHA (model) ‘we were very aware of that and used that’. Also had sessions with MOANA JACKSON about constitutional things and how to develop services, always marae based. 'It was really exciting'.

014'00" CULTURAL SAFTEYMentions relationship with IRIHAPETI RAMSDEN; met through NATIONAL COUNCIL OF MAORI NURSES, realised links, worked with her, Irihapeti would visit and give sessions to staff. Mentions CULTURAL SAFETY.

Talks of work with pakeha staff in early days of cultural safety, tried to demonstrate there were two ways of doing things. Gives example of kuia in hospital, established parallel way of doing things. Explained to doctors, could work alongside them using Maori ways. 'In a way, we were pioneers in Taranaki, I think it worked well'.

Explains input into polytechnic (nursing) course. Was on POLYTECHNIC COUNCIL.

015'45" TARARUA AND DANNIEVIRKE HOSPITALMove to the TARARUA part of MID-CENTRAL HEALTH as manager. Work involved down-sizing and closure of

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DANNEVIRKE HOSPITAL and setting up community facility, ‘a very crucial time not only for the community but for me… People didn't really want to talk to me’.

Explains reaction from community, realisation of what hospital meant to community. Example of taking down ‘ancient photos’ of people from corridors of hospital to store at archives. Had to bring them back so community could re-frame and re-hang them, ‘really upset them that I had removed these things that caught dust’, ‘had not realised the significance’.

Mentioned wards running at ‘ridiculous (low) occupancy rate’. [Telephone ring]

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Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 4 of 5Interviewer: Kate PrebbleAbstracter: Kate PrebbleEquipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital

000'09" TARARUA, DANNIEVIERKE CONTDDescribes closure DANNEVIRKE HOSPITAL, monthly public forums, people well informed but 'almost bloody-minded' about keeping hospital.

Explains under-used buildings: very large nurses home, 3-4 stories high with ballroom on top floor. Started to do creative things with building, e.g. maternity units but mostly used by Maori families so not appreciated by community. A difficult time, ‘community did not like you very much'.

Fortunate to work with DAVID BARAGWANETH on NATURAL JUSTICE, Board contracted Wellington legal firm to assist with plan to downgrade surgical services. Baragwaneth taught her and CEO about application of natural justice.

Was also responsible for community health, first role as manager, a substantial shift: community not prepared to accept nurse as manager, corrected people who said 'she is our nurse'.

Reiterates major issues: closure of hospital and down-grading of surgical services. Community work 'boxed on quite nicely’.

004'50" MASTERTON - WHAI ORA WHANUIDescribes move back to Masterton to establish WHAI ORA. Parents getting older, also already worked with Maori with contract for CERVICAL SCREENING, wanted to extend that, looked at what could be established, talked to community. Some dissention because already group doing cervical screening but did not have health professionals.

Explains decision made at hui at PAPAWAI in 1997 to establish Maori based community health service. WHAI ORA WHANUI established 1998, now known as WHAI ORA, not affiliated to any iwi but had Kahununu beginnings.

Describes growth of WHAI ORA: from staff of two people, now over 20. At first, just provided services such as maternal and child health and physical exercise, now provides range of programmes. Now biggest Maori Health provider in district, medical practice attached. Employs registered nurses, social workers and community health workers.

Explains was also Head of MAORI STUDIES at POLYTECHNIC for a while.

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NERF Nursing Oral History Project 1950s/1960sAbstract

Janice Wenn

008'20" CONSULTANT IN MAORI HEALTHLeft Whai Ora in 2000 to become CONSULTANT in Maori Health mostly for MINISTRY OF HEALTH. Worked from home in Masterton, also in Wellington, Hawke’s Bay, other places, mostly reviewing providers.Also worked with TU TAMA WAHINE in Taranaki.Appointed to District Health Board in 1997.

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NERF Nursing Oral History Project 1950s/1960sAbstract

Janice Wenn

Recorded: 10 NOV 2012 File: 5 of 5Interviewer: Kate PrebbleAbstracter: Kate PrebbleEquipment: Fostex FR-2LE Digital

005'00" PHD AND AFTERWARDSExplains PhD studies: spoke with Mason Durie in 2000, looked at values underpinning Maori Health and how people learned meaning and understanding of these values. Started 2002, graduated 2007.

Describes methods: interviewed 40 kaumatua, 20 from Kahanunu and 20 from Taranaki. Used KAUPAPA MAORI RESEARCH system along with DENZIN AND LINCOLN framework. Used open-ended interviewing letting kaumatua tell how these things came into their lives and how they lived by them; wealth of stories about being Maori. 'I really felt very privileged'. Posed one question and stories just flowed. Outcome was a process to develop frameworks looking at past, present and future.

Continued on staff at MASSEY UNIVERSITY, mainly interviewing kaumatua about health status and best outcomes for Maori. Currently involved in getting data base related to LIVERPOOL CARE PATHWAYS.

Oldest PhD graduate by six months, next oldest also Maori woman.Talks of present and future plans: remains busy, may return to WANANGA at RAUKAWA to work on language, considering degree in MAORI LAW AND PHILOSOPHY. Currently working at MASSEY UNIVERSITY, on DISTRICT HEALTH BOARD, and has HEALTH RESEARCH COUNCIL contract looking at whanau violence.

Thanks

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EndCurrently working at Massey, on DHB, & HRC contract looking at whanau violence.

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