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v1.0 - 20050426 D ocum entC over Sheet ProjectN um ber SP-3-0219-AD1 D ocum entTitle Com m entsto above draft02 Source Panasonic Corporation ofN orth A m erica C ontact Tony Jasionow ski O ne Panasonic W ay, 1E-6 Secaucus, N ew Jersey 07094 Phone:201-348-7777 Fax: 201-348-7807 Em ail: [email protected] D istribution TR-41.3.9 X ForIncorporation Into TIA Publication ForInformation Intended Purpose ofD ocum ent (Selectone) O ther(describe)- The docum ent to w hich this cover statem ent is attached is subm itted to a Form ulating G roup or sub-elem entthereofofthe Telecom m unications Industry A ssociation (TIA )in accordance w ith the provisionsofSections6.4.1–6.4.6 inclusive ofthe TIA Engineering M anualdated M arch 2005, allof w hich provisionsare hereby incorporated by reference. A bstract Com m entsto draft02 ofSP-3-0219-A D 1 Telecommunications Industry Association TR41.3.9-08-05-004-L

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Document Cover Sheet

Project Number SP-3-0219-AD1

Document Title Comments to above draft 02

Source Panasonic Corporation of North America

Contact Tony Jasionowski One Panasonic Way, 1E-6 Secaucus, New Jersey 07094

Phone: 201-348-7777 Fax: 201-348-7807 Email:

[email protected]

Distribution TR-41.3.9

X For Incorporation Into TIA Publication For Information

Intended Purpose of Document (Select one) Other (describe) -

The document to which this cover statement is attached is submitted to a Formulating Group or sub-element thereof of the Telecommunications Industry Association (TIA) in accordance with the provisions of Sections 6.4.1–6.4.6 inclusive of the TIA Engineering Manual dated March 2005, all of which provisions are hereby incorporated by reference.

Abstract

Comments to draft 02 of SP-3-0219-AD1

Telecommunications Industry Association TR41.3.9-08-05-004-L

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Comments to Draft 02 of SP-3-0219-AD1 TIA-1083-1Apr.18, 2008/PanasonicApr.18, 2008/Panasonic

Clause 3.2.3: (perpendicular)Clause 3.2.3: (perpendicular) clause 3.2.3, 1 b) refer to TIA-810-B subclause 4.4 through 4.8 for artificial ear. subclause 4.7 of TIA-810-B: the preferred ear simulator is type 3.3.

Panasonic’s Comment:Panasonic’s Comment: <1><1> We would like to comment that clause 3.2.3, 1 b) is revised as follows. 1 b) place the handset receiver on the artificial ear using the high leak condition specified in TIA-810-B subclauses 4.4, 4.7 and 4.8, except the preferred ear simulator is either type 1 or type 3.3 artificial ear.

The reason is as follows: We would like to propose to add “type 1” artificial ear (ear simulator), as optional: This is better because of following reasons: 1) Type 1 artificial ear is used for FCC Part 68 measurement, so it is common and popular usage 2) Type 1 artificial ear , we understand, has good reproducible fashion. Using type 1 artificial ear will get better contact to receiver. 3) The purpose of using artificial ear is to just determine the input level. So, we think several types artificial ears will be acceptable as preference.

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Clause 3.2.3, 1 c):

Panasonic’s Comment (item to be confirmed)?:Panasonic’s Comment (item to be confirmed)?: <2><2> We would like to confirm that our understanding is correct on followings.

3.2.3, 1 c) Determine the volume control setting for nominal gain per TIA-810-B subclause 4.6 except use the high leak position.

* 1) Nominal gain* 1) Nominal gain: We understand this is the “quietest volume control setting” as described on clause 4.5

of TIA-810-B. From a practical viewpoint, please confirm that the following procedure is accepted with TIA-1083-1 as we understand so:

A) Set the input level with minimum volume level of sound pressure of the unit under test B) Keep the input level set as A) (and not changed) while measuring and, conduct measurement with changing the volume set positions. (this means that input level is NOT re-corrected even when the volume setting is changed) * 2)Except use the high leak position* 2)Except use the high leak position: We understand the meaning of this is that, in from a practical viewpoint, we set the artificial ear with the high leak position. Please confirm it is correct.

(4.6 of TIA-810-B describes “with the mandatory low leak RLR requirement---. The “except” in 3.2.3 1 c) means it accepts to set it with high leak position as it is also described on 3.2.3 1 b). -----this is just to confirm the interpretation of “except”?

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Please confirm?Please confirm?:

* 2)

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Clause 3.3.3:(Transverse)

Panasonic’s Comment:Panasonic’s Comment:

The same comments <1>, <2> and <3> we described for clause 3.2.3 are also applied to clause 3.3.3.

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Note: Next page shows copy of TIA-810-B Clause 4.4,4.7,4.8

(continued)

Clause 3.2.3, 1 d):

Panasonic’s Comment:Panasonic’s Comment: <3<3>> We would like to comment thatWe would like to comment that Clause 3.2.3, 1 d) is revised as follows: 1 d) Apply a 1000Hz input signal and determine the sound pressure produced in the artificial ear. Adjust the input level to produce, (a) 0 dBPa at 1000Hz for type 3.3 artificial ear, and (b) 5 dBPa at 1000Hz for type 1 artificial ear. Use the input level thus determined for the below magnetic field measurement.

The reason is as follows. We requested to use either “Type 1 or Type 3.3 artificial ear” as described on comments <1>. Due to difference between Type 1 and Type 3.3, it is necessary to adjust the input level to produce 5 dBPa at 1000Hz for Type 1 artificial ear.

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