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username time status ukedchat 19:56 @dailydenouement is caught up at school still, so @colport will take the seat (again!) for #ukedchat this week ukedchat 19:57 Please remember to add #ukedchat in your tweets, so they can be collected together for the archive ukedchat 19:57 The topic is "Effective group work: getting pupils learning collaboratively?" and we get going in a few minutes #ukedchat ukedchat 19:58 The poll for next week is already live at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ #ukedchat ukedchat 19:58 If you are new to #ukedchat you may want to follow by using www.twitterfall.com then add #ukedchat to the search on the left column Rachel deSouza 19:59 RT @BenRogersOVA: And #ukedchat starting in 15min. There's something in the air. colport 19:59 A reminder of the topic "Effective group work: getting pupils learning collaboratively?"#ukedchat dailydenouement 19:59 Whoop! I'm here but with limited powers to tweet! #ukedchat be patient! colport 19:59 Good evening folks. Am hoping @dailydenouement can join us, but has been caught up in school. Welcome to this week's #ukedchat kevinmulryne 19:59 Going to look in on #ukedchat this week colport 20:00 @john_at_muuua Your #ukedchat question is being polled for next week :-) familysimpson 20:00 RT @ukedchat: The topic is "Effective group work: getting pupils learning collaboratively?" and we get going in a few minutes #ukedchat  john at muuua 20:00 Parents evening after Ofsted. Need to miss #ukedchat even though one of my Qs is up. Will catch up later. Sorry guys. kevinmulryne 20:00 Coffee, anyone? #ukedchat smnhunt 20:01 #ukedchat I agree. 4 is the best number for groups I have found. 6 is too many. colport 20:01 RT @deborahrecord: @colport find the collaborative learnng toolkit at http://bit.ly/iP4VOu fr 14-19 and can be adapted for all KS #ukedchat colport 20:01 Effective group work: getting pupils learning collaboratively? #ukedchat - Anyone got any good tips for making this a success? familysimpson 20:01 Will be lurking for #ukedchat this evening. Frazzled, but very interesting topic so... maxrayner 20:01 grouped tables of 4 work well for group work and allow for cooperative learning, table leaders to enforce rules keep group on task #ukedchat dailydenouement 20:01 So #ukedchat How do we make group work a collaborative learning experience & not a "sit o ff" for the majority? Creativeedu 20:02 @ukedchat and in a new tweet click 'stick' and write #UKEdChat to have it automatically added to every tweet Page 1 of 44

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username time status

ukedchat 19:56 @dailydenouement is caught up at school still, so @colport will

take the seat (again!) for #ukedchat this week

ukedchat 19:57Please remember to add #ukedchat in your tweets, so they can be

collected together for the archive

ukedchat 19:57 The topic is "Effective group work: getting pupils learning

collaboratively?" and we get going in a few minutes #ukedchat

ukedchat 19:58The poll for next week is already live at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

#ukedchat

ukedchat 19:58

If you are new to #ukedchat you may want to follow by using

www.twitterfall.com then add #ukedchat to the search on the left

column

Rachel_deSouza 19:59RT @BenRogersOVA: And #ukedchat starting in 15min. There's

something in the air.

colport 19:59 A reminder of the topic "Effective group work: getting pupilslearning collaboratively?"#ukedchat

dailydenouement 19:59Whoop! I'm here but with limited powers to tweet! #ukedchat be

patient!

colport 19:59 Good evening folks. Am hoping @dailydenouement can join us, but

has been caught up in school. Welcome to this week's #ukedchat

kevinmulryne 19:59 Going to look in on #ukedchat this week

colport 20:00@john_at_muuua Your #ukedchat question is being polled for next

week :-)

familysimpson 20:00

RT @ukedchat: The topic is "Effective group work: getting pupils

learning collaboratively?" and we get going in a few minutes

#ukedchat

 john_at_muuua 20:00 Parents evening after Ofsted. Need to miss #ukedchat even though

one of my Qs is up. Will catch up later. Sorry guys.

kevinmulryne 20:00 Coffee, anyone? #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:01#ukedchat I agree. 4 is the best number for groups I have found. 6

is too many.

colport 20:01

RT @deborahrecord: @colport find the collaborative learnng

toolkit at http://bit.ly/iP4VOu fr 14-19 and can be adapted for all

KS #ukedchat

colport 20:01 Effective group work: getting pupils learning collaboratively?

#ukedchat - Anyone got any good tips for making this a success?

familysimpson 20:01Will be lurking for #ukedchat this evening. Frazzled, but very

interesting topic so...

maxrayner 20:01

grouped tables of 4 work well for group work and allow for

cooperative learning, table leaders to enforce rules keep group on

task #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:01So #ukedchat How do we make group work a collaborative

learning experience & not a "sit off" for the majority?

Creativeedu 20:02@ukedchat and in a new tweet click 'stick' and write #UKEdChat to

have it automatically added to every tweet

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dailydenouement 20:02

RT @MrKp: #ukedchat the best thing I've come across in ages is

Kagan cooperative learning - needs to be whole school but brilliant

stuff!

tas_sasso 20:02

Assigning group roles and responsibilities linked to our wizard

topic. Eg 'Dumbledore'=quality controller etc. 'twas great!

#ukedchat

MrKp 20:02 #ukedchat the best thing I've come across in ages is Kagan

cooperative learning - needs to be whole school but brilliant stuff!

dailydenouement 20:02 I'm interested in best practice for making all participants value the

group activity. And how to measure progress for all. #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:02

@colport Getting pupils learning collaboratively - can teachers

model, both within their own schools & across clusters?

#ukedchat

smnhunt 20:03 #ukedchat Agree with group roles being useful. Saw that used v.effectively today to bring reluctant child out of shell as reporter.

ufasarah 20:03#ukedchat create group ground rules together to begin with - that

has to be a must

ThurstableGeog 20:03Group work at KS4, how do you get apathetic students to

collaborate? #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:03How many schools have embraced Kagan structures? #ukedchat

deerwood 20:03 When considering group work, we have to decide if we want pupils

to work together or for each to have a role within group #ukedchat

colport 20:03 @MrKp Can you share a link for info for #ukedchat please?

kenradical 20:03#ukedchat is collaborative learning something we need to learn

explictly, or something we do naturally?

katiepiatt 20:03 @MrKp tell us about Kagan, what is that? #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:03 #ukedchat Can someone point me in the direction of info on Kagan

structures? Been hearing about them. What are they?

victoryoak 20:04RT @BenRogersOVA: And #ukedchat starting in 15min. There's

something in the air.

familysimpson 20:04 This is my classroom, May 2011 wp.me/p1m0SQ-1U #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:04

I'm tweeting from my iPhone in the concert interval! But I have

some info on Kagan which I will add to the summary document

#ukedchat

ufasarah 20:04

#ukedchat we've used the PURPOSE acronym from the 1 minute

manager to help with effective teamwork and also used rotating

roles

smnhunt 20:04

#ukedchat Be prepared to reflect on the team work that has

happened. Not just on focus of lesson. Have to do this a lot when

introducing it.

sh_hanes 20:04RT @ukedchat: The topic is "Effective group work: getting pupilslearning collaboratively?" and we get going in a few minutes

#ukedchat

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colport 20:04

RT @bevevans22: #ukedchat give pupils designated roles within a

team, complete with badges for younger ones… (cont)

http://deck.ly/~Cl5NJ

passionateaboot 20:04

@dailydenouement #ukedchat Has anyone ever used Sport

Education - it's the perfect way to get kids to value working

together towards a goal

petermoseley 20:04#ukedchat I have a child with mild aspergers in my class whostruggles in group situations. Any ideas on how to maximise his

participation?

kenradical 20:05#ukedchat need to be careful with group roles though, as often

they are too convoluted.

katiepiatt 20:05#ukedchat nobody has mentioned competition yet, should there

be a winning group?

ufasarah 20:05#ukedchat @smnhunt absolutely reflection on the process is key

smnhunt 20:05 #ukedchat PURPOSE acronym? What is it @ufasarah

dailydenouement 20:05 RT @ufasarah: #ukedchat create group ground rules together tobegin with - that has to be a must

ICTmagic 20:05

RT @bilehs: amazing collab.work through mantle of the

expert.Give childrn a huge problem then watch the collaboration

as they try to solve it #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:05

RT @petermoseley: #ukedchat I have a child with mild aspergers in

my class who struggles in group situations. Any ideas on how to

maximise his participation?

dailydenouement 20:05

RT @petermoseley: #ukedchat I have a child with mild aspergers in

my class who struggles in group situations. Any ideas on how to

maximise his participation?

passionateaboot 20:05@ThurstableGeog #ukedchat Use sport as the tool for learning

through

colport 20:05

RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat CASE Science investigations also

excellent, and start with tasks aimed at sorting class into mixed

ability groups...

CliveBuckley 20:05Group work - important to observe the process as well as the

product #ukedchat

bilehs 20:05

amazing collab.work through mantle of the expert.Give childrn a

huge problem then watch the collaboration as they try to solve it

#ukedchat

smnhunt 20:05#ukedchat @petermosely Evening. Make him a scribe or a

reporter?

colport 20:05

RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat open ended tasks which demand

collaboration...nrich maths are fan, but they need to … (cont)

http://deck.ly/~OxXwC

Creativeedu 20:05Ten Tips for Using Group Work to Engage and Motivate Learners:

http://ow.ly/53q4l #UKEdChat

ThurstableGeog 20:06@passionateaboot In what way, through group competition?

#ukedchat

nancyrubin 20:06Collaborative Learning: Group and Teams in the Classroom

http://t.co/yAndKbk #ukedchat

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petermoseley 20:06

#ukedchat @smnhunt Have tried having him report - He put his

own point of view across...was difficult getting group's thoughts

from him

dailydenouement 20:06@ufasarah Could you explain the PURPOSE acronym? #ukedchat

colport 20:06@JenniH68 #ukedchat Great ideas. With the younger pupils, do

you need to scaffold such behaviour?

smnhunt 20:06#ukedchat As well as badges and roles: props? Reporters notepad?

etc.. Was thinking about trying this today.

MrsPrentice11 20:06 some children will naturally donimate and lead group work, others

will take a back seat, assigning roles helps get past this #ukedchat

nancyrubin 20:06Wiki Roles for Student Groups http://t.co/VCMnGqk #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:06 @dailydenouement that would be fab @missnoor28 was talking to

me about Kagan structures today. sounds great. #UKEdChat

colport 20:06

RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat I teach Y2/3 and use mixed ability

groups for lots of research & investigative task… (cont)

http://deck.ly/~p0rRL

maxrayner 20:06

@smnhunt agree reflecting on the skills as if not more important

than content, needs a lot of time effort b4 they get good at it

#ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:06The best tool at this current time to enable collaboration is Gmail

and Google Docs - http://t.co/yEvDv4N #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:06

RT @ufasarah: #ukedchat we've used the PURPOSE acronym from

the 1 minute manager to help with effective teamwork and also

used rotating roles

colport 20:06@CliveBuckley I'd agree...the teacher needs to observe which

pupils would fit which role best #ukedchat

katiepiatt 20:07@passionateaboot #ukedchat ...or some other 'game' (not

necessarily a sporty one)

familysimpson 20:07

@colport #ukedchat can I just point out that #31daygame have

been sharing and comparing group learning strategies all month:

31daygame.net

ThurstableGeog 20:07

RT @MrsPrentice11: and it's not just children, I have a terrible

tendency to dominate group work! #controlfreak #ukedchat me

too!

dailydenouement 20:07Good point! RT @CliveBuckley: Group work - important to observe

the process as well as the product #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:07RT @dailydenouement: @ufasarah Could you explain the PURPOSE

acronym? #ukedchat

profesorbaker 20:07

Mind The Gap: The History Of The London Underground :

http://t.co/daNJd50 #ELTchat #edchat #ukedchat #education

#London #IATEFL #TESOL #esl

 jackieschneider 20:07@dailydenouement - what are Kagan structures? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:07RT @SimonBainbridge: The best tool at this current time to enablecollaboration is Gmail and Google Docs <anyone got good e.gs?

#UKEdChat

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MrsPrentice11 20:07and it's not just children, I have a terrible tendency to dominate

group work! #controlfreak #ukedchat

leroyh 20:07RT @nancyrubin: Collaborative Learning: Group and Teams in the

Classroom http://t.co/yAndKbk #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:07#ukedchat @bevevans22 love the idea of badges to remind of 

roles

passionateaboot 20:07 @katiepiatt #ukedchat depends on the purpose, but if you use

sport as the vehicle for learning it could be motivational

passionateaboot 20:08

@ThurstableGeog #ukedchat Sport Education uses sport as the

tool - they might be working towards an end of term

tournament/competition

Janshs 20:08RT @nancyrubin: Collaborative Learning: Group and Teams in the

Classroom http://t.co/yAndKbk #ukedchat

bellaale 20:08sorry... can't quite face the intensity of the #ukedchat experience

this evening... will watch back after... :(

deerwood 20:08Collaborative learning doesn't mean we all learn the same thingbut that we assist each other, not same ascooperative or

teamwork #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:08#ukedchat Not sure about whether a group should win/lose...

sometimes?

xPunzx 20:08

@CreativeEdu @SimonBainbridge we used it in our teacher

training to create powerpoints etc! would use again with kids!

#ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:08Anyone using wikis for group work - ideal to observe process

#ukedchat

colport 20:08

RT @MrKp: #ukedchat http://bit.ly/iQ0aHD written by the uk

trainer so a little ott, but really effective tec… (cont)

http://deck.ly/~H9aqd

anhalf 20:08 @petermoseley I have exactly the same prob; I use work partners

a lot and give v.specific targets... rather hit and miss tho #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:08 @petermoseley #ukedchat I would put him with one middle ability

partner so he would join in and not rely on others

bevevans22 20:08@misshbond http://j.mp/bjQP7l Examples of resources available

on here. #ukedchat

colport 20:09Quite a few folks forgetting to add #ukedchat to their tweets this

evening. Please try to include the hashtag :-)

ukedchat 20:09Quite a few folks forgetting to add #ukedchat to their tweets this

evening. Please try to include the hashtag :-)

anhalf 20:09

@bevevans22 @colport fab- I hav job badges(TTS) that work

v.well for science; not used in other areas but sounds like a plan :)

#ukedchat

nancyrubin 20:09RT @CliveBuckley: Anyone using wikis for group work - ideal to

observe process #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:09

Children need explicit teaching of group work skills - doesn't come

naturally to them! (Some staff struggle too...Mr Budgen?)#ukedchat

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dailydenouement 20:09

Am hoping #ukedchat folks will be patient with me tonight. Am an

emergency helper at school concert so only have my phone to

tweet from!

colport 20:09

RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat really work hard on effective group

work at start of year and recap as we go...usually part of SC and

plenary...

colport 20:09The best collaboration I have seen recently in my classroom is HAsupporting LA with reading/IT work. Grew a bond between them

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:09

A range of activities to promote collaboration. RT

@jackieschneider: @dailydenouement - what are Kagan

structures? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:10 RT @colport: Quite a few folks forgetting to add #ukedchat to their

tweets this evening. Please try to include the hashtag :-)

colport 20:10@smnhunt It's nice, but I also like the way it has helped develop

friendships within the classroom #ukedchat

maxrayner 20:10 observed an excellent lesson using kagan from @gemthegooner

when done well it really facilitates group work #ukedchat

katie_hague 20:10

RT @deerwood: Collaborative learning doesn't mean we all learn

the same thing but that we assist each other, not same

ascooperative or teamwork #ukedchat

mikemcsharry 20:10simple effective collaboration? http://ow.ly/53RPW #ukedchat

phys1cs 20:10 Hello #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:10 #ukedchat what about de bono hats? i love them!

 jackieschneider 20:10#ukedchat - the task has to require teamwork. Obvious but

sometimes overlooked

bevevans22 20:10

#ukedchat sometimes setting group challenge that only works if 

tasks are shared makes them realise the importance of 

collaboration #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:10Do you have set roles for group work or do you modify to suit

task? #ukedchat

mrarcher 20:10

#ukedchat use jigsaw pieces to get students into groups, can

quickly turn a group of 4 into an 8 by saying now all animals

together

smnhunt 20:10

#ukedchat @colport Agree... have set groups: reading partners,

writing partners, talking/thinking partners... HA support LA

massively!

sh_hanes 20:10 #ukedchat have had roving reporter reporting to the whole class

on the group work, also rewarding those who have worked well!

katie_hague 20:10 #ukedchat getting Chn to plan their work & assign themselves all

specific roles allows working to strengths & engagement for all

cherrylkd 20:10@bilehs #ukedchat does one not just completely take over? If not

it's gd idea

kenradical 20:10@smnhunt agreed. Not sure competition always works. Its puts

some people off (including me!) #ukedchat

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ICTmagic 20:10

@katiepiatt I think that rewards/winners r ok if challenge is

something that is not guaranteed to succeed if they don't work

hard #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:10 @smnhunt do u mean like a competition? i think that depends on

the objective/lesson can be a gr8 motivator?! #ukedchat

mattharding007 20:11 But do children DO more when working independently? Easy toopt out in group work. #ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:11RT @sh_hanes: #ukedchat have had roving reporter reporting to

the whole class on the group work: Nice!

colport 20:11 @JenniH68 Thank you for adding #ukedchat and sharing the ideas.

Have you blogged about it, or are you sharing with us tonight?

passionateaboot 20:11

@katiepiatt #ukedchat agree, being PE trained, my natural choice

is sport or dance or some form of physical activity- even

teambuilding

dailydenouement 20:11 Do people use group activities as a differentiation strategy?#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:11

@katiepiatt Too many activities are guaranteed to work/be

completed with minimal effort. Where is the learning in that?

#ukedchat

kevinmulryne 20:11 If aspergers, may need/want to use technology to scribe/report?

e.g. digital audio recorder? @smnhunt #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:12 Good question! RT @Creativeedu: Do you let pupils choose their

own groups or do you pick them to ensure balance etc? #UKEdChat

passionateaboot 20:12 @deerwood #ukedchat and would love to see more teachers

modelling this collaborative approach, not just paying lip service

petermoseley 20:12

@cherrylkd #ukedchat Problem is that he's able, has advanced

ideas and struggles to see other viewpoints. Concentration isnt

great either!

Janshs 20:12 love this RT @sh_hanes #ukedchat have had roving reporter

reporting to the whole class on the group work .....

CliveBuckley 20:12

RT @mattharding007: But do children DO more when working

independently? Easy to opt out in group work. #ukedchat Most

work harder I think

smnhunt 20:12RT @dailydenouement: Do people use group activities as a

differentiation strategy? #ukedchat --> Yes!

dailydenouement 20:12 RT @ukedchat: Quite a few folks forgetting to add #ukedchat to

their tweets this evening. Please try to include the hashtag :-)

cherrylkd 20:12@MrsPrentice11 #ukedchat me too. I'm far too impatient for

group work!

smnhunt 20:12 @kevinmulryne #ukedchat Good idea!

geraldhaigh1 20:12How many groups can you manage? In the 60s we reckoned 5 max.If numbers meant you had 6, you sent one off to work in the

library. #ukedchat

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Creativeedu 20:12Do you let pupils choose their own groups or do you pick them to

ensure balance etc? #UKEdChat

dailydenouement 20:12

RT @katie_hague: #ukedchat getting Chn to plan their work &

assign themselves all specific roles allows working to strengths &

engagement for all

BenRogersOVA 20:12@bevevans22 #ukedchat what sort of activities work for this?

kenradical 20:12de bono's hats frighten me. Possibly because I permanently wear

the black hat #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:12

RT @mrarcher: #ukedchat use jigsaw pieces to get students into

groups, can quickly turn a group of 4 into an 8 by saying now all

animals together

smnhunt 20:12And I change them regularly for exactly that reason #ukedchat

@colport

mrarcher 20:13 #ukedchat I generally always choose and either have mixed ability

or group based on ability and then give out tasks accordingly.

Creativeedu 20:13

V.interesting to talk about groups this week vs independent last

week. What about independent learning via group work?

#UKEdChat

smnhunt 20:13#ukedchat Is it important that we set group work targets... seen

targets used v. effectively in P4C too!

ThurstableGeog 20:13 @kenradical I don;'t think group work doesn't mean that pupils

have to stay in the same groups for the entire task #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:13

@dailydenouement @Creativeedu #ukedchat i do both - good to

mix them up! but sometimes a good class works super with

friends!

CliveBuckley 20:13

RT @bellaale: sorry... can't quite face the intensity of the

#ukedchat experience this evening... will watch back after... :( :Can

relate!

dailydenouement 20:13

So how to fix that? RT @mattharding007: But do children DO more

when working independently? Easy to opt out in group work.

#ukedchat

colport 20:13 @smnhunt Hmmm, we can focus too much on the curriculum to

forget about the social aspects of school. Good point. #ukedchat

DeputyMitchell 20:13For the first time in ages, I'm following the #ukedchat discussion!

MrsPrentice11 20:13@CreativeEdu it depends on the task, but if I let my Y6 choose you

only get single gender groups! #ukedchat

kenradical 20:13 Nice ideas from primary sector about cross-year collaboration.

Why do secondary sector not do this as much? #ukedchat

MrsCinnabar 20:14@colport Am only an nqt but all my group work is mixed ability.

Different groups every time #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:14@dailydenouement @mattharding007 #ukedchat not if they have

a strict role that they MUST fufil!

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ukedchat 20:14 @bellaale If #ukedchat is too fast for you, have a look via

www.twitterfall.com - people find this more manageable :-)

deerwood 20:14

What about collaboration across classes, across schools across

countries? Please let's not stick to old group work in a class

#ukedchat

maxrayner 20:14@kenradical agreed, opportunity for sixth form to act as rolemodels take leading roles in group work - works in vertical tutoring

#ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:14

#ukedchat - knowing when to intervene is crucial. Sometimes a

question can really help but too much interference counter

productive

ufasarah 20:14

@dailydenouement #ukedchat set a specifcation for the group e.g.

must have equal nos of boys and girls, etc and YP group

themselves

passionateaboot 20:14 @Educationchat #ukedchat We all have different strengths. Try abit of 'forming, storming and norming' with team building

BenRogersOVA 20:14@kenradical #ukedchat we've got lots to learn from primaries.

bevevans22 20:14

@BenRogersOVA Have used it for research projects with Year 3&4,

scientific investigation with Year 5&6 + thinking skills work

#ukedchat

DeputyMitchell 20:14

RT @kenradical: Nice ideas from primary sector about cross-year

collaboration. Why do secondary sector not do as much?

#ukedchat

HamptonEnglish 20:14 RT @Colport Teaching "Effective group work: getting pupils

learning collaboratively?" #ukedchat - Anyone got any good tips?

Creativeedu 20:15 Is it easy to opt out in group work? Maybe not if your group sets

the rules and hold each other accountable? #UKEdChat

smnhunt 20:15

RT @deerwood: What about collaboration across classes, across

schools across countries? Please let's not stick to old group work in

a class #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:15@sh_hanes #ukedchat Love that idea - do you have roving

reporters around school as well?

gillpenny 20:15

#ukedchat we use group work for many of our challenge activities,

we use cooperative learning strategies. Band in a box all group

work

BenRogersOVA 20:15 @bevevans22 #ukedchat We've invited primary teachers in to

observe our lessons. It will be interesting to see what they advise.

colport 20:15 @MrsCinnabar Pros and cons for this? #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:15 Children have done lots of project based learning in history &

geography this year http://bit.ly/gVBvLS #ukedchat

sophiebessemer 20:15RT @Creativeedu: RT @SimonBainbridge on Google Docs as greattool for collaboration. @ZoeRoss19 has some excellent examples.

#UKEdChat

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ufasarah 20:15 @MrsCinnabar #ukedchat sounds brilliant

sh_hanes 20:15 @geraldhaigh1 #ukedchat I have 6 groups for class of 25+

Janshs 20:15ooh nice RT @mikemcsharry simple effective collaboration?

http://ow.ly/53RPW #ukedchat

eduKatescom 20:15#ukedchat teaching music, I always have pupils group thmslves by

skills required, not number.

smnhunt 20:15 #ukedchat Individual into groups works (think-pair-share)@creativededu

Creativeedu 20:15@MrsPrentice11 I'll bet and if you don't mix the groups I bet you

always get the same 'leaders' too? #UKEdChat

ufasarah 20:16@petermoseley #ukedchat yep certainly keeps them on their toes

gillpenny 20:16#ukedchat we carefully choose members for group to ensure

different ability levels and learning styles.

cherrylkd 20:16@dailydenouement #ukedchat I do. Mixed ability group. Easier

tasks 4 less able. They learn from more able

sallyahuk 20:16RT @colport: RT @deborahrecord: @colport find the collaborativelearnng toolkit at http://bit.ly/iP4VOu fr 14-19 and can be adapted

for all KS #ukedchat

Janshs 20:16

thinking about collab learning #ukedchat @dnew1 @vickitoria35

@sevim77 in terms of FRonter, CPD room, forum chat gr8

resources in this chat

mushychelle 20:16#ukedchat in HE students seem to HATE group work activities. Any

advise on how to make it easier for them?

dailydenouement 20:16RT @eduKatescom: #ukedchat teaching music, I always have pupils

group thmslves by skills required, not number.

nancyrubin 20:16Great videos - Project-based Learning: What it is and What it isn't!

http://t.co/mGrEjD4 #ukedchat

colport 20:16 @BenRogersOVA @bevevans22 Wow, a brave move. I wish more

schools had the inclination to do this collaboration #ukedchat

petermoseley 20:16

#ukedchat Have used 'Jigsawing' effectively before. Each group

researches a topic, then mix groups up with an 'expert' in each new

group.

ICTmagic 20:16

RT @bevevans22: @deerwood We do collaborative work across

classes using Primary Pad, Dabbleboard, Prezi and Lino it - lots of 

fun #ukedchat

digitalmaverick 20:16 Just taken a look at the #ukedchat hashtag & am BLOWN AWAY by

the massive range of contributors to the discussion #incredible

bilehs 20:16

@cherrylkd With mantle I've never had children who dominate

everything - you often see children shine who wouldn't ordinarily.

#ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:16@Creativeedu - I'm experimenting with just using friendship

groups in music lessons #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:16 @deerwood We do collaborative work across classes using Primary

Pad, Dabbleboard, Prezi and Lino it - lots of fun #ukedchat

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kenradical 20:16

RT @deerwood: What about collaboration across classes, across

schools across countries? Please let's not stick to old group work in

a class #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:17 @colport @BenRogersOVA Luckily we have 3 classes per year

group so have lots of scope for collaboration. #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:17RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - knowing when to intervene iscrucial. Sometimes a question can really help but too much

interference counter productive

cforpmultimedia 20:17Collaborative Learning: Group and Teams in the Classroom

http://t.co/yAndKbk #ukedchat (via @nancyrubin)

kenradical 20:17 @xPunzx gggrr pesky timetables. I am thinking of getting my Year

7s to teach my Year 12s next yr if timetable allows #ukedchat

ruthgrimwood 20:17#ukedchat Talk for Maths and NRich has great jigsaw activities

which encourage lots of collaboration

cforpmultimedia 20:17 Wiki Roles for Student Groups http://t.co/VCMnGqk #ukedchat(via @nancyrubin)

geraldhaigh1 20:17

@dailydenouement @Creativeedu You have to set the groups. Part

of classroom management, allied to the aims of the lesson.

there.#UKEdChat

smnhunt 20:17

#ukedchat I've been doing a lot of thinking about pace.. and find

that I drop the pace a bit when doing group work. Much better

pacier!

sh_hanes 20:17#ukedchat think it totally depends on the class about whether to

plan where they sit or not!

dailydenouement 20:17 RT @gillpenny: #ukedchat we carefully choose members for group

to ensure different ability levels and learning styles.

ukedchat 20:17

RT @digitalmaverick: Just taken a look at the #ukedchat hashtag &

am BLOWN AWAY by the massive range of contributors to the

discussion :-)

eduKatescom 20:17

RT @CreativeEdu: Is it easy to opt out? Maybe not if your group

sets the rules and hold each other accountable? #UKEdChat

absolutely!

phys1cs 20:17Has anyone had experience with upd8 group work lessons?

#ukedchat

katie_hague 20:17@jackieschneider #ukedchat I find v diff to not interfere too much

& only ask key questions!

carolinebreyley 20:17 #ukedchat agree re need to discuss purposes of collaborative work,

useful to help them see in context of adult activity; life skill

passionateaboot 20:17 @xPunzx #ukedchat Similar to Personality types - assign roles to

those suited for them. We need chiefs as well as Indians

Creativeedu 20:17 @smnhunt I think groups setting their own targets and objectives

is probably more effective tool than teacher set targets #UKEdChat

deerwood 20:17@bevevans22 brill, online tools can be a great medium for such

collaborative work #ukedchat

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bevevans22 20:18

#ukedchat Also keen on collaborative projects across key stages -

Y4 pupils supporting & working with Y1 on film projects etc.

#ukedchat

sevim77 20:18 #UKEdChat I agree it depends on the group, I let mine choose as

long as there is a balence of boys and girls in the group.

Mr_P_Teach 20:18 #ukedchat We have roles within groups. Each job has a card thatsupports them in the role. E.g. Quality control

digitalmaverick 20:18

Seriously - the #ukedchat discussion is quite something - not so

long ago it used to feature a handful of different names

#lookatitnow

Creativeedu 20:18

@ukedchat remind me to post about how to use twitterfall to

make #UKEdChat more manageable next week. Meant to do it this

week but forgot.

colport 20:18@BenRogersOVA But you can work with that, and move forward

with it #ukedchat I admire this step

ufasarah 20:18#ukedchat cooperative learning stuff is useful http://bit.ly/7UB1gg

sh_hanes 20:18

“@passionateaboot: @Educationchat #ukedchat Try a bit of 

'forming, storming and norming' with team buildingâ€tried

explaining that to yr 8!

cforpmultimedia 20:18Do people use group activities as a differentiation strategy?

#ukedchat (via @dailydenouement)

Grevster73 20:18does anyone use mixed ability grouping as advocated by Jo Boaler

and the Complex Instruction approach? #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:18

Kagan tries to avoid some pupils hogging attention & others sitting

idly. How do you manage the hogs & the logs in your groups?

#ukedchat

craftyslh 20:18

I'm interested in setting up groups across the UK with my BTEC Nat

Dip IT students, they are 2nd year. Not sure where to start

#ukedchat

BenRogersOVA 20:18

@colport #ukedchat wish we'd done it years ago. My fear is they

will tell us that group skills and independence have gone

backwards.

bilehs 20:19

animations,documentaries,dvds,animal sanctuaries,space

specialists are a few mantle areas that hav encouraged amazin

collaboration #ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:19

@xPunzx @CreativeEdu Google Docs works on all platforms & is

easy for collaborative work text, spreadsheets, slides & drawing.

#ukedchat

petermoseley 20:19

@anhalf #ukedchat I think talk targets is something I need to focus

more on - I've used them in group work but not for everyday

parter work

dailydenouement 20:19 RT @Mr_P_Teach: #ukedchat We have roles within groups. Each

 job has a card that supports them in the role. E.g. Quality control

victoryoak 20:19

RT @BenRogersOVA: @colport #ukedchat wish we'd done it years

ago. My fear is they will tell us that group skills and independencehave gone backwards.

caroljallen 20:19 @deerwood we use Google Shared docs for this #ukedchat

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dailydenouement 20:19

RT @bevevans22: #ukedchat Also keen on collaborative projects

across key stages - Y4 pupils supporting & working with Y1 on film

projects etc. #ukedchat

colport 20:19@craftyslh Could such collaboration within this sector also be done

with online resources? #ukedchat

tim7168 20:19

I've been experimenting with mixed ability pairs recently...works

for some but not others. Need to be very carefully chosen.#ukedchat

Joga5 20:19

@bevevans22 We had three form entry so used peer mentoring

between classes to ensure equality of experience and opportunity

#ukedchAT

mattharding007 20:19 @xPunzx So we plan for each individual child now?! Whilst working

in a group? Can we discuss work/life balance again?! #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:19 @katiepiatt #ukedchat Agree- life is competitive afterall. What

educationalist wouldn't want kids to achieve their potential?

Creativeedu 20:19

RT @gillpenny: #ukedchat we use group work for many of our

challenge activities, we use cooperative learning strategies. Band in

a box all group work

dailydenouement 20:19

RT @Creativeedu: @smnhunt I think groups setting their own

targets and objectives is probably more effective tool than teacher

set targets #UKEdChat

cherrylkd 20:19@petermoseley #ukedchat I'd make him your partner then. I do

that with my asp boy. Works well

maxrayner 20:20

@mattharding007 once you have the structures / routine in place

planning time massively reduced it is just that inital commitment

#ukedchat

deerwood 20:20Wonder if anyone in a federated school has made effective use of 

online collaboration? #ukedchat

ufasarah 20:20

#ukedchat we sometimes use role cards to remind about role, and

responsibilities E.g. encourager might have a few egs of how to

encourage

SimonBainbridge 20:20@sophiebessemer thanks for the heads up I will show those

examples to the teachers at my schools! #ukedchat

Mr_D_Cheng 20:20

#ukedchat - pupil voice project showed pupils loved structured

group tasks in Maths & Science but not the more open ended tasks

in English!

dailydenouement 20:20

Explain? RT @Grevster73: does anyone use mixed ability grouping

as advocated by Jo Boaler and the Complex Instruction approach?

#ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:20@sh_hanes @educationchat #ukedchat Rather than explain - do

petermoseley 20:20 @cherrylkd #ukedchat I like it!

colport 20:20@Grevster73 Yes, but mainly for foundation subjects rather than

maths/literacy work :-/ #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:20

RT @Grevster73: does anyone use mixed ability grouping as

advocated by Jo Boaler and the Complex Instruction approach?#ukedchat

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dailydenouement 20:20

RT @Grevster73: does anyone use mixed ability grouping as

advocated by Jo Boaler and the Complex Instruction approach?

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:20RT @ufasarah: #ukedchat cooperative learning stuff is useful

http://bit.ly/7UB1gg

victoryoak 20:20RT @colport: @BenRogersOVA But you can work with that, and

move forward with it #ukedchat I admire this step

DeputyMitchell 20:20 @xPunzx In primary, we change our timetables. Isn't that an option

in secondary? Major nightmare to do but is it doable? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:20Anyone got exciting e.g.s of collaboration between classes /

schools / countries... #UKEdChat @deerwood

passionateaboot 20:21@xPunzx #ukedchat Take them out of comfort zone or extend

their comfort zone?

caroljallen 20:21@dailydenouement In life, as on this thread there are active

people and lurkers, both groups learn #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:21 My pupils are currently rocking Alicia Key's Empire State of Mind.

Thanks all for bearing with me tonight! #multitasking #ukedchat

profesorbaker 20:21

IB Diploma Celebration 2010 - Aloha College : http://t.co/sOTMIZe

#ELTchat #edchat #ukedchat #education #edreform #IB #DP #MYP

#esl #esol

sh_hanes 20:21

RT @deerwood: What about collaboration across classes, across

schools across countries? Please let's not stick to old group work in

a class #ukedchat

PoorParenting 20:21Ideas for Using Group Work to Engage and Motivate Learners:

http://bit.ly/jaRHHx #UKEdChat

mikemcsharry 20:21 I'm not a teacher but I'm fairly sure Learning FC stuff was made for

collaboration http://wp.me/p1cO6r-Su #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:21@colport big benefits for English/Maths learning because context

is real #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:21

@Joga5 It certainly has made a difference to how we work Peer

mentoring is good for so many things Pupils respond to other

pupils #ukedchat

colport 20:21@CreativeEdu Can you remember to post about twitterfall for next

week please. There, done it ;-) #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:21@CreativeEdu Can you remember to post about twitterfall for next

week please. There, done it ;-) #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:21 @passionateaboot #ukedchat secondary, so not really!

anhalf 20:21

@tim7168 following a conference I hav been using totally random

working partners-change wkly- been v. interesting&productive

#ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:22 RT @passionateaboot: @xPunzx #ukedchat Take them out of 

comfort zone or extend their comfort zone?: Henderson's niche..

Creativeedu 20:22RT @deerwood: Wonder if anyone in a federated school has made

effective use of online collaboration? #ukedchat

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ufasarah 20:22 @bevevans22 #ukedchat agree we train 100s of Peer tutors - one

of the most powerful things I've seen & gr8 results for tutor/tutee

Creativeedu 20:22

RT @Mr_D_Cheng: #ukedchat - pupil voice project showed pupils

loved structured group tasks in Maths & Science but not the more

open ended tasks in English!

smnhunt 20:22 #ukedchat Important to teach lurkers to speak up and active typesto listen though!

colport 20:22@tim7168 Completely agree #ukedchat Also depends on the task

Grevster73 20:22@dailydenouement Complex Instruction by group worthy tasks

e.g. http://bit.ly/kUnYGM #ukedchat

anhalf 20:22

@petermoseley #ukedchat raising profile takes some settin up but

results seen hav encouraged me to stick wit it and use more and

more

tim7168 20:22 @anhalf I bet it has...I always think it's interesting to let themorganise themselves sometimes to see what happens! #ukedchat

DeputyMitchell 20:22@xPunzx Would I be MENTAL to suggest that 'timetabling issues' is

an excuse to not even entertain it? #ukedchat

Smichael920 20:22 @Creativeedu @deerwood we had a great project running with

partner school in Australia using wallwisher #ukedchat

familysimpson 20:22RT @ufasarah: #ukedchat cooperative learning stuff is useful

http://bit.ly/7UB1gg

Creativeedu 20:22What's your most inspiring or interesting example of group or

collaborative working? #UKEdChat

geraldhaigh1 20:22

@sh_hanes OK. Just saying our primary inspector would have

suggested five groups of five might be more effectively supported.

#ukedchat

deerwood 20:22 Surprised @DeputyMitchell hasn't popped up with his quad

blogging as a fine example of collaboration #ukedchat

MrsPrentice11 20:22 6 hat thinking works well with groups #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:22

RT @mikemcsharry: I'm not a teacher but I'm fairly sure Learning

FC stuff was made for collaboration http://wp.me/p1cO6r-Su

#ukedchat

colport 20:22

@learnbuzz When I've done it with lit/numeracy in the past, the

poorer students just copy the answers from the better ones :-/

#ukedchat

petermoseley 20:22 @tim7168 #ukedchat Agreed, I think my lowers sometimes have a

tendancy to sit back and let their partner do the work!

ufasarah 20:23@tim7168 #ukedchat we get Peer Tutors to apply for the role

sh_hanes 20:23

“@dailydenouement: RT @bevevans22: - Y4 pupils supporting

& working with Y1 on film projects etc. #ukedchat†sounds so

cool!

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bevevans22 20:23

@CreativeEdu Year 4 had a great project on the Tudors -

collaborating from class to class to solve puzzles on a web trail, So

cool #ukedchat

caroljallen 20:23 @smnhunt Totally agree but offer a variety of ways to contribute

and to listen, not all about speaking out. #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:23“@petermoseley: #ukedchat used 'Jigsawing' effectively b4.Each gp researches topic, mix groups up with an 'expert' in new

group.†love this

DeputyMitchell 20:23@deerwood @smnhunt Surprised I didn't mention it either!! lol

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:23

Guess so! RT @caroljallen: @dailydenouement In life, as on this

thread there are active people and lurkers, both groups learn

#ukedchat

kenradical 20:23

@CreativeEdu I got a whole class of Year 12s (16 of them) to write

the same essay simultaneously using GoogleDoc. Messy but fun

#ukedchat

anhalf 20:23RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - film making projects creates fab

groupwork.

mrmattwardle 20:23

@ufasarah Good stuff! I always find that clear and meaningful

roles in groups (scribe, chair etc) allow everyone to feel

empowered #ukedchat

gillpenny 20:23@jackieschneider music composition also good for group work

#ukedchat

Educationchat 20:23

The MILE Awards project in Bolton is an excellent example of 

children working as an independent group. Across schools too.

#ukedchat

tim7168 20:23 @petermoseley Some respond really well to peer tutoring, others

are passive, others not good peer tutors, varies. #ukedchat

colport 20:23@craftyslh Any kind of learning platform, or WIKI site can do the

trick #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:23 #ukedchat what is quad blogging? @deerwood

gillpenny 20:23 we find it takes time for the children to learn the skills required to

work in groups effectively, we start with pairs in infants #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:23 RT @Creativeedu: What's your most inspiring or interesting

example of group or collaborative working? #UKEdChat

 jackieschneider 20:23 #ukedchat - film making projects creates fab groupwork.

xPunzx 20:24@Educationchat #ukedchat what are the mile awards projects?

learnbuzz 20:24 @colport local history/art project was mixed ability - everyone

contributed fully. Check out: http://bit.ly/gVBvLS #ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:24I've not found a purpose built VLE yet where students can

collaborate with ease! #ukedchat

mattharding007 20:24 @maxrayner Just....!!! There's that word again. 'Just' do this, 'just'

do that... You're right of course but it's a big 'just'! #ukedchat

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colport 20:24(playing devil advocate here) How can we *assess* during

collaborative learning though? #ukedchat

ufasarah 20:24@smnhunt #ukedchat YUP 'what can we do together that we

cannot do alone'

bilehs 20:24

@ICTmagic @daveydoubleu My children created kodu

wedding&war the first time they used it #ukedchat

http://www.beinspiredbyict.blogspot.com/

Creativeedu 20:24RT @smnhunt: #ukedchat Important to teach lurkers to speak up

and active types to listen though!

dailydenouement 20:24

RT @kenradical: @CreativeEdu I got a whole class of Year 12s (16

of them) to write the same essay simultaneously using GoogleDoc.

Messy but fun #ukedchat

anhalf 20:24

RT @dailydenouement: Guess so! RT @caroljallen:

@dailydenouement In life, as on this thread there are active

people and lurkers, both groups learn #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:24sounds fab @Smichael920 did you blog about it? do you have a

link? #UKEdChatpassionateaboot 20:24 @CliveBuckley @xpunzx #ukedchat Tell me more ......

Creativeedu 20:24

RT @Smichael920: @Creativeedu @deerwood we had a great

project running with partner school in Australia using wallwisher

#ukedchat

anhalf 20:24@jackieschneider absolutely agree- it is a brilliant group acitivity

#ukedchat

smnhunt 20:24#ukedchat Activity has to be one that benefits groups work and

couldn't be better done individually.

learnbuzz 20:24 @colport have worked in ability groups for rainforest project - la

need more support but just as engaged #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:25 @colport #ukedchat peer and self assessment?

BenRogersOVA 20:25

I'm developing group tasks which don't require a teacher to say

whether it has been achieved. It gives me time to observe them

#ukedchat

colport 20:25@HamptonEnglish And herein lies the problem with collaborative

learning? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:25

RT @kenradical: @CreativeEdu I got a whole class of Year 12s (16

of them) to write the same essay simultaneously using GoogleDoc.

Messy but fun #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:25

@craftyslh Were you thinking national/international? Twitter is a

great place to find teachers to partner. Done some myself.

#ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:25

“@caroljallen: @dailydenouement In life, as on this thread

there are active people and lurkers, both groups learn

#ukedchatâ€excellent point

Creativeedu 20:25RT @smnhunt: #ukedchat what is quad blogging? @deerwood

<intrigued please tell me too!

dailydenouement 20:25

Brill! RT @kenradical: Should we also provide kids with examples of 

good and bad group work (the Apprentice spring to mind!)????

#ukedchat

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CliveBuckley 20:25 RT @passionateaboot: @CliveBuckley @xpunzx #ukedchat Tell me

more ......realized niche and available niche (I think not a biologist!)

 jordan_la 20:25we have 2 projects a year where timetable collapses and students

work in vertical groups (secondary) -#ukedchat

nancyrubin 20:25WebQuests + Web 2.0 = WebQuest 2.0 http://t.co/h5DDzH0

#ukedchat

gillpenny 20:25

@CreativeEdu our rock bands n Band in a Box, have done some

amazing work, composing songs, videos, french broadcasts etc

#UKEdChat

tim7168 20:25

@colport Definitely, but the more cooperative learning the better.

More meaningful pupil-pupil interaction, less teacher-pupil.

#ukedchat

kenradical 20:25 Should we also provide kids with examples of good and bad group

work (the Apprentice spring to mind!)???? #ukedchat

HamptonEnglish 20:25#ukedchat group projects can be fantastically motivating for allstudents. Goals and expected outcomes for each student must be

clear though

dailydenouement 20:25

RT @Educationchat: The MILE Awards project in Bolton is an

excellent example of children working as an independent group.

Across schools too. #ukedchat

ruthgrimwood 20:25 RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - film making projects creates fab

groupwork. <- Definitely agree, animation projects too

bevevans22 20:26 Simple things - like putting up a tent or building a bridge, can be

great for making kids pull together and great fun too #ukedchat

kevinmulryne 20:26Better term for lurkers is readers (coined by @kathyseddon )

#ukedchat

colport 20:26 @BenRogersOVA Ah, teachers are not good at 'observing' It is not

seen as 'doing' #ukedchat We need a shift in attitude.

deerwood 20:26@CreativeEdu I'm sure David will do a blog post for you about it

#ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:26

RT @bevevans22: @CreativeEdu Year 4 had a great project on the

Tudors -collaborating from class to class to solve puzzles on a web

trail, So cool #ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:26@passionateaboot = comfort zone and not so comfortable (but

survivable) zone #ukedchat

ufasarah 20:26@tim7168 #ukedchat Peer Tutors - my experience is anything

from 8yrs+

LouiW 20:26 #ukedchat we use learn to learn skills and our creative curriculum

is based around that and lessons have this and subject obj

smnhunt 20:26

RT @kenradical: Should we also provide kids with examples of 

good and bad group work (the Apprentice spring to mind!)????

#ukedchat --> YES!

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bilehs 20:26 @colport assess through filming, observations, recording children's

thoughts and their actual end products #ukedchat

MrMalcontent 20:26 @dailydenouement by assigning distinct roles, e.g. facilitator, time

keeper, reporter, recorder and contributor #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:26RT @HamptonEnglish: #ukedchat group projects can befantastically motivating for all students. Goals and expected

outcomes for each student must be clear though

sh_hanes 20:27@geraldhaigh1 #ukedchat I agree. Big classes of yr 8&9 different

though!

caroljallen 20:27@colport Totally agree - in great groupwork the teacher's role is

very very different! #ukedchat

mushychelle 20:27

@kenradical: Should we also provide examples of good and bad

group work (the Apprentice spring to mind!)???? #ukedchat - fab

idea :-)

Creativeedu 20:27RT @gillpenny: @CreativeEdu our rock bands n Band in a Box,have done some amazing work, composing songs, videos, french

broadcasts etc #UKEdChat

geraldhaigh1 20:27@smnhunt Which is why teacher has to decide the composition of 

the groups. #ukedchat

colport 20:27@JenniH68 Ooh, that sounds like EYFS everyday practice ;-)

#ukedchat

DeputyMitchell 20:27

@smnhunt Quadblogging link here but don't want to take you

away from #ukedchat I NEED to do some updating though!

http://bit.ly/ey7Z8h

ICTmagic 20:27 @bilehs Looks impressive, and great fun for the children. Used

Kodu with my class last year, but not this. Must do that. #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:27

#ukedchat Don't you find completely random group or pair works

well...Pupils know there's no hidden agenda and confound

expectations

Educationchat 20:27

RT @bevevans22: Simple things - like putting up a tent or building

a bridge, can be great for making kids pull together and great fun

too #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:27RT @colport: (playing devil advocate here) How can we *assess*

during collaborative learning though? #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:27

@SimonBainbridge #ukedchat We've set up a 'social network' site

for school sport. see what you think

www.newcastleschoolsport.com

ThurstableGeog 20:27 @bilehs I like that idea #ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:27

RT @colport: @BenRogersOVA Ah, teachers are not good at

'observing' #ukedchat We need a shift in attitude: We HAVE to

observe!

colport 20:27@xPunzx Yes, but this needs teaching to the pupils #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:27

collaborative learning with a real life context offers excellent

opportunities to work with others schools here & abroad#ukedchat

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Educationchat 20:27@kenradical And what would you use for your example of good

groups? #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:28#ukedchat Is assessment that important? Self and peer probably

outweighs teacher assessment.

CliveBuckley 20:28 RT @cherrylkd: @gillpenny #ukedchat circle time in infants is also a

great way to start teaching collaborative learning. :Agree

 jackieschneider 20:28#ukedchat - groupwork is more than sitting round the same table

and doing the same thing

caroljallen 20:28 @kevinmulryne Yes but not in a groupwork situation necessarily

where there may be nothing written at all #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:28

RT @DeputyMitchell: @smnhunt Quadblogging link here but don't

want to take you away from #ukedchat I NEED to do some

updating though! http://bit.ly/ey7Z8h

gillpenny 20:28skills children need to learn to work effectively in a group are also

essential skills for work and life #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:28 Some brilliant e.g.s of group / collab working coming through to

me. If you have links please share them too... #UKEdChat

passionateaboot 20:28

@xPunzx @clivebuckley #ukedchat Great to challenge and let

them feel that confusion always comes before understanding and

learning

cherrylkd 20:28 @gillpenny #ukedchat circle time in infants is also a great way to

start teaching collaborative learning. All listen and have a go

maxrayner 20:28@kevinmulryne or observers, get them to provide feedback to

group afterwards? #ukedchat

kenradical 20:28@Educationchat I was wondering that too. Any good groups we

can think of? #ukedchat

colport 20:28

@rosBIGWRITING: @colport Don't the EYFS do it very effectively

all the time? #ukedchat <~Yes, it's once the KS's kick in, it starts to

fail

 jackieschneider 20:28@smnhunt - spot on. I see lots of supposed group work which

doesn't require collaboration #ukedchat

Grevster73 20:28

@colport dep on what u wnt to assess - if it's working

collaboratively, thn negotiate criteria that wld support assnt of 

this. #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:29

RT @LouiW: @colport #ukedchat I use the time to observe,

wonderful opp to watch & listen, especially if you let them solve

their own probs!

dailydenouement 20:29 Absolutely. RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - groupwork is more

than sitting round the same table and doing the same thing

CliveBuckley 20:29RT @dailydenouement: My reception is going! #ukedchat -thought

you meant your class :)

Grevster73 20:29more on complex instruction and group-worthy tasks

http://thetim.es/k99N6A #ukedchat

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LouiW 20:29

@colport #ukedchat I use the time to observe, wonderful

opportunity to watch and listen, especially if you let them solve

their own probs!

SimonBainbridge 20:29

@colport Modern observation techniques are essential for

teachers to get the best feedback & evidence on collaboration!

#ukedchat

ufasarah 20:29 @gillpenny #ukedchat agree learning to be and learning to live

with each other - 2 of the 4 unesco pillars of learning I think?

dailydenouement 20:29

RT @bevevans22: Simple things - like putting up a tent or building

a bridge, can be great for making kids pull together and great fun

too #ukedchat

gillpenny 20:29@cherrylkd absolutley agree lots of skills need to learned by

children and circle time a great start #ukedchat

kevinmulryne 20:29 @maxrayner yes that would work well :-) #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:29@gillpenny #ukedchat Agree wholeheartedly...Edison never

worked alone!

profesorbaker 20:29

IB: International Baccalaureate Program at St. Johns:

http://t.co/COd51lJ #edu #education #eltchat #edchat #ukedchat

#esol #esl #ell #elt

xPunzx 20:29 @colport yeah it does and takes time - i started in sept, only just

got to the stage where they are really good! #ukedchat

MissJStanton 20:29@mikeatedji My class love the random name picker fruit machine

from class tools. #ukedchat

bilehs 20:29  jigsawing is fab for collaborative work, as is rainbowing,

snowballing and a range of other S&L approaches #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:29

@Grevster73 @colport I think that agreeing with pupils on success

criteria for group work makes them try harder to do it right

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:29 My reception is going! #ukedchat on an iPhone is not ideal. So

looking fwd to compiling the summary of this week's discussion!

bilehs 20:30let children choose their own groups. We all collaborate better

with some than we do with others #ukedchat

craftyslh 20:30

@ICTmagic National/International never collaborated with

external students, so interested to setup for new Games Tech/Web

course #ukedchat

colport 20:30@BenRogersOVA Was that an insult to me (being compared with

an Ofsted inspector?) LOL ;-) #ukedchat

caroljallen 20:30

@jackieschneider Tot agree each learner may not complete the

same tasks, follow the same process, will NOT learn the same

things #ukedchat

tim7168 20:30

RT @mikeatedji: @MissJStanton #ukedchat Yes that's a great one.

Randomness in pairing, counterintuitively, works well I find with

behaviour issues too

mikeatedji 20:30@MissJStanton #ukedchat Yes that's a great one. Randomness inpairing, counterintuitively, works well I find with behaviour issues

too

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deerwood 20:30 @LouiW @colport watching learners solve their own problems is

one of the finest moments in teaching for me #ukedchat

ufasarah 20:30@LouiW #ukedchat and you end up coaching more than

teaching... the art of standing back

petermoseley 20:30 #ukedchat Speaking and listening assessment appears to havefallen off the radar at our school - is this generally the case?

saraloisstanley 20:30

RT @ufasarah: #ukedchat we've used the PURPOSE acronym from

the 1 minute manager to help with effective teamwork and also

used rotating roles

JOHNSAYERS 20:30

#ukedchat I have students working independently on a

collaborative topic and they carousel round and each task develops

oracles to aid

passionateaboot 20:30

@kenradical #ukedchat Great idea, tried The Apprentice with my

Sports Leaders and they loved it, as well as learning - has to be

structured

DeputyMitchell 20:30

@Smichael920 @Creativeedu Space Roadshow from Hawes Side

was FANTASTIC!! My pupils' blog posts about it

http://bit.ly/m6kmqM #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:30 RT @gillpenny: skills children need to learn to work effectively in a

group are also essential skills for work and life #ukedchat

In2schools 20:30

RT @tim7168: @colport Definitely, but the more cooperative

learning the better. More meaningful pupil-pupil interaction, less

teacher-pupil. #ukedchat

Mr_D_Cheng 20:30#ukedchat - best groupwork I have ever seen was outside the

classroom - inter school challenge at Ghyll Head OEC

colport 20:30

RT @rosBIGWRITING: As long as we shut up and LISTEN to them,

it's not so hard! <~Agree, but not in the nature of teacher training

#ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:30

Hope you don't mind my interjection #ukedchat #tmclevedon

inspiration, awe and wonder, June 23rd - free bbq

bit.ly/tmclevedon2 thank you

Creativeedu 20:31

RT @Mr_D_Cheng: #ukedchat - best groupwork I have ever seen

was outside the classroom - inter school challenge at Ghyll Head

OEC

colport 20:31@SimonBainbridge Agree, and technology can support this

#ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:31 @kenradical #ukedchat ha ha you're spot on there!

dailydenouement 20:31

tweeting from sound box of concert! RT @CliveBuckley: RT

@dailydenouement: My reception is going! #ukedchat -thought

you meant your class :)

katie_hague 20:31@mrswaustin sounds great, which Kagan strategy? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:31When pupils collaborate effectively it's a good time to sit back &

observe how they learn best #UKEdChat

digitalmaverick 20:31 . @colport do we NEED to assess during collaborative learning?#ukedchat

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gillpenny 20:31

cooperative learning is now a major element of our methodology

throughout whole school and has had very positive impact

#ukedchat

KathSimp 20:31 RT @gillpenny: skills children need to learn to work effectively in a

group are also essential skills for work and life #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:31@bevevans22 @Grevster73 @colport agree and helps assessment -clear outcome to judge by! either by work produced or skills!

#ukedchat

Grevster73 20:31@bevevans22 @colport is there a right way to do group work?

Surely that's part of the negotiation? #ukedchat

geraldhaigh1 20:31 Fascinated by #ukedchat Exactly the same issues, points, problems

as we had in the great and creative days before the NC appeared.

colport 20:32@deerwood @LouiW Completely agree. That penny dropping

moment :-) #ukedchat

kevinmulryne 20:32 @caroljallen Yes fair point - listeners then ;-) #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:32 RT @bilehs: let children choose their own groups. We all

collaborate better with some than we do with others #ukedchat

Hassanmirza 20:32

@Creativeedu hey! you wouldn't be interested in blogging about

how legal aid reforms will impact the education sector, would you?

#ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:32 #ukedchat a simple technique I use is job roles in a company and

they have feedback meetings and pitch ideas support aids

bevevans22 20:32 @Grevster73 @colport That's why I think success criteria is key :)

Do think totally random groups work well too #ukedchat

phys1cs 20:32

Is there anything out there like a Belbin for pupils. So pupils can

learn what they are good at and what they need to improve

#ukedchat

colport 20:32 @LouiW You will become more of an expert in September. I still

feel guilty observing, especially when HT enters room #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:32@colport @benrogersova #ukedchat Less is more. Often it's about

facilitating rather than straight instruction

Educationchat 20:33

@bilehs You've not been in my class then....works for some, but

like minded people do not necessarily make for good groups.

#ukedchat

bellaale 20:33

(can't resist) My Y7 & Y8 Ger classes 2day used Edmodo to "chat" 4

revision of qu's for oral/written exams...and invented quizzes

#ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:33

RT @phys1cs: Is there anything out there like a Belbin for pupils. So

pupils can learn what they are good at and what they need to

improve #ukedchat

carolinebreyley 20:33

@LouiW #ukedchat Agree re provides opp for stand back and

assess, use vid and let them look back to self and peer assesscontributions

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ufasarah 20:33

@CreativeEdu #ukedchat I misremembered, acronym is PERFORM

stands for Purpose, Empowerment, Relationships … (cont)

http://deck.ly/~GRVCa

ruthgrimwood 20:33#ukedchat http://bit.ly/bRQuUo TED talk from Sugata Mitra on

collaborative learning and child-driven education

sh_hanes 20:33

Rt“@bilehs: let children choose their own groups. We all

collaborate better with some than we do with others #ukedchat† interesting!

In2schools 20:33 @mattharding007 @maxrayner I hear you! If only you could list all

the things teachers are 'just' asked to do! #ukedchat

colport 20:33 @BenRogersOVA SShhh, don't tell anyone ;-) #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:33#ukedchat TEEP is a good strategy to follow for collaborative

learning

MissJStanton 20:33

I like to randomise how chn are grouped, sometimes I choose,

sometimes they choose, sometimes use random name picker.

#ukedchat

smnhunt 20:33#ukedchat Apparently research shows that random groups

changed regularly (but not every day/task) works best.

passionateaboot 20:33

@bevevans22 #ukedchat Agree and Sport Education or Games for

Understanding will structure collaborative learning in sport/

physical activity

dailydenouement 20:33

RT @JOHNSAYERS: #ukedchat a simple technique I use is job roles

in a company and they have feedback meetings and pitch ideas

support aids

caroljallen 20:33@petermoseley Not in my field, ie inclusion, speaking and listening

at the heart of my work #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:33

re choosing own groups: is there a danger that pupils will always

choose the same groups and assume the same roles? #UKEdChat

@Grevster73

hairbyslice 20:33#ukedchat Allowing ch to choose groups works well, except for the

ch who aren't chosen.

mikeatedji 20:33#ukedchat Have you checked @Sugatam for inspirational self 

organised group work?

familysimpson 20:33

RT @kenradical: @CreativeEdu I got a whole class of Year 12s (16

of them) to write the same essay simultaneously using GoogleDoc.

Messy but fun #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:34 @gillpenny #ukedchat Don't mean to bang on about sport/physical

education, but that's why its such a vital subject

Creativeedu 20:34RT @hairbyslice: #ukedchat Allowing ch to choose groups works

well, except for the ch who aren't chosen.

dailydenouement 20:34

RT @helenhamill: @ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat -

make it 50% teacher marked, and the other 50% marked by the

remainder of the group on proforma !

bellaale 20:34

so ended up coagulating into little "grouplets" of own making, and

creating great ideas I never thought of... Boys AND girls! ;)

#ukedchat

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xPunzx 20:34 #ukedchat my best group work was when i said they chould pick to

work on their own, in pairs or 3s, all very motivated!

Grevster73 20:34 @CreativeEdu why is that a danger? ;) #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:34

RT @ruthgrimwood: #ukedchat http://bit.ly/bRQuUo TED talk

from Sugata Mitra on collaborative learning and child-driven

education

SimonBainbridge 20:34 @colport A teacher in one of my primary schools has found flip

cameras are a great tool for assesing learning. #ukedchat

deerwood 20:34Not being sexist but would anyone say collaborative learning is

easier with girls than boys? #ukedchat

helenhamill 20:34

@ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat - make it 50% teacher

marked, and the other 50% marked by the remainder of the group

on proforma !

mikeatedji 20:34@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat Isn't that why the "how" of group

composition needs to be constantly varied ?

colport 20:34 @HamptonEnglish Good point mentioning AfL - Great processes

within for collaboration, assessment and development #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:34Could you explain? RT @JOHNSAYERS: #ukedchat TEEP is a good

strategy to follow for collaborative learning

bilehs 20:34

@ICTmagic They have been asking all week 'when can we do kodu

again' #ukedchat come on @JenniH68 - you know you want to

play!

 jackieschneider 20:35#ukedchat - if the task is exciting enough kids don't care who they

work with.

In2schools 20:35@deerwood interesting angle- from my experience no! #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:35

RT @deerwood: Not being sexist but would anyone say

collaborative learning is easier with girls than boys? #ukedchat -->

Not in my class owr

IslingtonEMAS 20:35 Just joining in...sorry if this is already common knowledge but they

are great! http://www.collaborativelearning.org/ #ukedchat

grumpysheepy 20:35 RT @bilehs: let children choose their own groups. We all

collaborate better with some than we do with others #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:35 RT @xPunzx: #ukedchat my best group work was when i said they

chould pick to work on their own, in pairs or 3s, all very motivated!

Creativeedu 20:35

RT @ruthgrimwood: #ukedchat http://bit.ly/bRQuUo TED talk

from Sugata Mitra on collaborative learning and child-driven

education

smnhunt 20:35

#ukedchat If you feel guilty observing pick up a pencil and a post it

pad. Then it becomes formative assessment (like EYFS

assessment!)

Sophisimus 20:35 Being brave and actually commenting this time #ukedchat! Anyonefound assigning roles to be restrictive at times?

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colport 20:35

@SimonBainbridge My issue is organising and storing the digital

data (from video/cameras) securely and safely. Any ideas?

#ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:36 @dailydenouement #ukedchat Surely this has to be varied.

Sometimes random, sometimes self selected, as in life!

ICTmagic 20:36 @bilehs @JenniH68 For a quicker, beginner game making site I find

http://sploder.com is a good site as well. #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:36

Ismnhunt: RT @deerwood: Not being sexist but would anyone say

collaborative learning is easier with girls than boys? #ukedchat -->

nope!

CliveBuckley 20:36 How specific should the group task be? #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:36

RT @smnhunt: #ukedchat If you feel guilty observing pick up a

pencil and a post it pad. Then it becomes formative assessment

(like EYFS assessment!)

xPunzx 20:36 @smnhunt @deerwood #ukedchat interesting!

myhanhdoan 20:36 @dailydenouement I think a combination of pupil and teacher

organised groups is healthy and motivating #ukedchat

craftyslh 20:36

RT @phys1cs: Is there anything out there like a Belbin for pupils. So

pupils can learn what they are good at and what they need to

improve #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:36RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - if the task is exciting enough kids

don't care who they work with.

MissJStanton 20:36@deerwood It depends on the boys and girls! I think it's more

about personality than gender. #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:36Definitely a diff of opinion as to whether groups are pupil or

teacher organised. Any more thoughts? #ukedchat

caroljallen 20:36

@ruthgrimwood Did some work with Sugatra and we had to

'remove' the teachers from the room in order to stop them

'helping' #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:37

RT @headteacher01: #ukedchat the best collaborative learning I

see is in EYFS, especially outside, using piles of junk to create

amazing structures

IslingtonEMAS 20:37

@deerwood #ukedchat Like everything, collaborative learning

needs teaching- ideally don't do new skills + new knowledge

together 1st time.

xPunzx 20:37@CliveBuckley i think it should be quite, otherwise i think a group

has a tendacy to verge off point #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:37

“@deerwood: Not being sexist but would anyone say

collaborative learning is easier with girls than boys? #ukedchat†

no here!

colport 20:37A great #ukedchat this evening, really enjoying the experiences

from the different phases and Key Stages.

cherrylkd 20:37 @Mr_D_Cheng i think #ukedchat is a good example of group work.

all educators learning together and from each other

dailydenouement 20:37Does anyone have any good tips for assessing group tasks?

#ukedchat

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Creativeedu 20:37

RT @dailydenouement: Definitely a diff of opinion as to whether

groups are pupil or teacher organised. Any more thoughts?

#ukedchat

headteacher01 20:37 #ukedchat the best collaborative learning I see is in EYFS, especially

outside, using piles of junk to create amazing structures

hairbyslice 20:37#ukedchat Anyone find adding a computer to a group scenario cancause conflict? Personal Computer = Popular Device with one

input.

petermoseley 20:37@caroljallen #ukedchat Any useful formal assessment approaches

you could reccommend?

DeputyMitchell 20:37

RT @tim7168: @dailydenouement I think you need a mix,

sometimes organised by teacher, sometimes friendship groups,

sometimes in between. #ukedchat

Grevster73 20:37

RT @tim7168: @dailydenouement I think you need a mix,

sometimes organised by teacher, sometimes friendship groups,

sometimes in between. #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:37@Grevster73 I guess it's exactly what we do as 'grown ups'.....

#UKEdChat

bevevans22 20:37

@dailydenouement I think it sometimes depends on the mix of 

genders & the age group. Y6 def better in random groups IMO

#ukedchat

tim7168 20:37

@dailydenouement I think you need a mix, sometimes organised

by teacher, sometimes friendship groups, sometimes in between.

#ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:37@Sophisimus - yes! I only do it occasionally & happily abandon if 

group is making progress.#ukedchat

Grevster73 20:37 RT @MissJStanton: @deerwood It depends on the boys and girls! I

think it's more about personality than gender. #ukedchat < gd pnt

colport 20:37RT @Mr_P_Teach: @colport @rosbigwriting It's fine as long as

people understand the term independence. #ukedchat

maxrayner 20:37@jackieschneider i agree, letting them pick sounds like recipe for

disaster in some cases : s #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:37RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - if the task is exciting enough kids

don't care who they work with.

Creativeedu 20:38

Does group / collaborative working ever go wrong... and why?

#UKEdChat

smnhunt 20:38

#ukedchat Anyone find adding a computer to a group scenario can

cause conflict? Personal Computer = Popular Device with one

input. --> Yes

IslingtonEMAS 20:38@deerwood #ukedchat so IMHO no, boys as clearly able as girls!

caroljallen 20:38

Thanks - good site! RT @JenniH68 For a quicker, beginner game

making site I find http://sploder.com is a good site as well.

#ukedchat

eduKatescom 20:38#UKEdChat @colport would this be any use for storage?

http://bit.ly/cJ8ASn

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dailydenouement 20:38

RT @hairbyslice: #ukedchat Anyone find adding a computer to a

group scenario can cause conflict? Personal Computer = Popular

Device with one input.

mikeatedji 20:38#ukedchat How do you ensure there's no racist excluding going

on?

eduKatescom 20:39 @colport hmm - good point! Tricky times! #UKEdChat

Grevster73 20:39 @CreativeEdu yes! I like to mix it up from time to time though -with kids and with adult grps! #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:39

Me too Albeit slowly! RT @colport: A great #ukedchat this evening,

really enjoying the experiences from the different phases and Key

Stages.

petermoseley 20:39 @xPunzx #ukedchat May experiment with that. Although I fear I'd

end up with a group of 8 boys all talking about lego!

tim7168 20:39

@CreativeEdu Yes massively! Have spent whole lessons mediating

arguments. Definitely need groundwork b4 collab work possible.

#ukedchat

ufasarah 20:39 @CreativeEdu #ukedchat not 'wrong' coz there's always

something to learn from it - especially when it doesnt go to plan

colport 20:39RT @rosBIGWRITING: @Mr_P_Teach @colport ... but in class it's

shut up and work #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:39 RT @IslingtonEMAS: @deerwood #ukedchat so IMHO no, boys as

clearly able as girls! --> My girls fall out much more often!

dailydenouement 20:39Surely that can be monitored? RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat How do

you ensure there's no racist excluding going on?

colport 20:39 RT @rosBIGWRITING: @Mr_P_Teach @colport Sir Ken R said it all

when said we collaborate in every corner of life...#ukedchat

dpothin 20:39

RT @IslingtonEMAS: Just joining in...sorry if this is already common

knowledge but they are great!

http://www.collaborativelearning.org/ #ukedchat

colport 20:39 @eduKatescom Who owns the images? Don't want to be accused

of anything for storing 'evidence'!!! #ukedchat (Am I paranoid?)

Creativeedu 20:40 RT @maxrayner: @Creativeedu when done for the sake of it rather

than with a task specifically designed for it #ukedchat

deerwood 20:40@CreativeEdu a pupil with a dominant personality can sometimes

try to dominate group #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:40 “@dailydenouement: Does anyone have any good tips for

assessing group tasks? #ukedchatâ€they do it! Usually very honest!

ICTmagic 20:40@bilehs Well... just one of many gems from my wiki page at

http://ictmagic.wikispaces.com #ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:40#ukedchat - think we need to give clearer targets to group and not

be afraid to spend time analysing if task fails

IslingtonEMAS 20:40Give the kids roles in the groups- reporter, timekeeper etc.

#ukedchat espec good for including pupils with EAL

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maxrayner 20:40@Creativeedu when done for the sake of it rather than with a task

specifically designed for it #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:40

@xPunzx #ukedchat Glad to hear it but experience shows it's

happening in "outstanding" schools - T needs to be alert to it in

first place

smnhunt 20:40

#ukedchat @creativeedu Some fail to integrate no matter how

they are grouped... Usually the ones who are not able to take onnew ideas

xPunzx 20:40@CreativeEdu yeah i think if the outcome isnt clear, and if roles

arent given!#ukedchat

HamptonEnglish 20:40 #ukedchat #gcsemedia has long permitted collaborative Controlled

assessment. Students have to write a declaration stating their role.

tim7168 20:41 yes! RT @hairbyslice: #ukedchat Anyone find adding computer to

group scenario can cause conflict? PC= Popular Device with 1 input

xPunzx 20:41 @sh_hanes @dailydenouement could also film them and watch it

back highlighting good and bad practice? #ukedchat

web20education 20:41

#Planetary 4 #iPad Fly through 3D universe dynamically

created,explore music collection #mlearning #edtech20 #ukedchat

http://t.co/DXsljSz

SimonBainbridge 20:41 @colport For organisising & storing video / audio I would suggest

using iTunes with Home Sharing & smart playlists? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:41 RT @deerwood: @CreativeEdu a pupil with a dominant personality

can sometimes try to dominate group #ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 20:41 @smnhunt #ukedchat try giving them defined roles

ufasarah 20:41

#ukedchat got to go now...but if anyone's interested in Peer tutor

training get in touch. We've got some training coming up on June

14th

smnhunt 20:41 #ukedchat @jackieschneider Defo.. evaluation is key.

bevevans22 20:41

RT @hairbyslice: #ukedchat Anyone find adding computer to group

scenario can cause conflict? PC= Popular Device with 1 input- we

use laptops

Grevster73 20:41 too much of gender differences are over emphasised by what us

teachers impose or expect? People are different. #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:41@dailydenouement #ukedchat It's monitored only if T is aware it's

an issue...Sometimes they're not

dailydenouement 20:41 Great question! RT @Creativeedu: Does group / collaborative

working ever go wrong... and why? #UKEdChat

bilehs 20:41

@dailydenouement Flipcams are fab for recording,though

sometimes children behave differently. Webcam is good for

discrete filming #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:42RT @In2schools: @CreativeEdu Would be interesting to let pupilsanswer this one! #ukedchat Thinking Activity for the morning

sorted! Thanks

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learnbuzz 20:42@dailydenouement 'failing' is a learning opportunity! #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:42 RT @xPunzx: @sh_hanes @dailydenouement could also film them

and watch it back highlighting good and bad practice? #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:42@IslingtonEMAS #ukedchat This is Sport Education - have you used

this model?

deerwood 20:42RT @ufasarah: my first #ukedchat this evening - enjoyed it, thanks

all < join again next week

andyhampton 20:42#ukedchat as we see in the Apprentice, groups can find it v hard to

be decisive. So creative work especially hard.

Creativeedu 20:42RT @passionateaboot PE an obvious place for group work, and 2

hrs per week required in Scottish Pr schs #ukedchat

digitalmaverick 20:42

Wondering if anyone currently taking part in #ukedchat has a

Gifted & talented policy (esp for ICT) that they'd be willing to share

:-)

learnbuzz 20:42 @dailydenouement assessment tips here: http://www.bie.org/diy#ukedchat

In2schools 20:42@CreativeEdu Would be interesting to let pupils answer this one!

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:42

RT @Grevster73: too much of gender differences are over

emphasised by what us teachers impose or expect? People are

different. #ukedchat

ufasarah 20:42 my first #ukedchat this evening - enjoyed it, thanks all

gillpenny 20:42@passionateaboot PE an obvious place for group work, and 2 hrs

per week required in Scottish Pr schs #ukedchat

colport 20:43 @SimonBainbridge I just worry about storage/ownership of 

images, especially in this era of paranoia we live in #ukedchat

LouiW 20:43#ukedchat #deerwood #colport I love giving them a prob but not

equipment to solve!!! See if they ask?!? Naughty!

digitalmaverick 20:43@dailydenouement @kathyschrock (I'm sure) has some great

rubrics for assessments of group work #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:43 RT @andyhampton: #ukedchat as we see in the Apprentice, groups

can find it v hard to be decisive. So creative work especially hard.

Mr_D_Cheng 20:43 @cherrylkd couldn;t agree more #ukedchat!

dailydenouement 20:43 #multitasking and #ukedchat This is hilarious... I'm propping open a

door to get reception to tweet now! Concert going ok though :)

deerwood 20:43 RT @JenniH68: @deerwood but they should find the success of 

their group depends on collaboration pretty quickly... #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:43 @In2schools You're right...it really would! #UKEdChat

gillpenny 20:43 @smnhunt we use laptops and ipads as group device no particular

problems. Would be different with desktop computer #ukedchat

paulstpancras 20:44RT @phys1cs: Is there anything out there like a Belbin for pupils. Sopupils can learn what they are good at and what they need to

improve #ukedchat

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gillpenny 20:44

@digitalmaverick not ampolicy but our group work in ICT was

identified by HMIe as pest practice in stretching more able pupils

#ukedchat

bilehs 20:44

@ICTmagic Thank you!Will take a look.Ideas exchange-I've got new

ICTweebly alongside blog

http://www.beinspiredbyict.blogspot.com/ #ukedchat

colport 20:44 There are many great OAA activities within PE for collaboration#ukedchat

bevevans22 20:44

@dailydenouement @Creativeedu PUtting together a group of 

opinionated pupils who all want to lead isn't good #ukedchat

entertaining tho

MissJStanton 20:44 @LouiW I do this all the time! Remind them that they know 'where

everything is' before they start. My only hint! #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:44 #ukedchat Will do! @Creativeedu

digitalmaverick 20:44Also Andrew Churches brilliant site has some great rubrics for

assessment http://bit.ly/lz80Z1 #ukedchat

victoryoak 20:44

RT @colport: @BenRogersOVA @bevevans22 Wow, a brave move.

I wish more schools had the inclination to do this collaboration

#ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 20:44

@CreativeEdu #ukedchat goes wrong when it's new and they are

both learning new knowledge and new collab.groupwork skills

#doomed

smnhunt 20:44#ukedchat One of the best group activities I've organised was one

with a financial incentive!

cherrylkd 20:44 @hairbyslice #ukedchat use iPad and pass round group?

dailydenouement 20:44Indeed it is! RT @learnbuzz: @dailydenouement 'failing' is a

learning opportunity! #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:44 @smnhunt let us know what they say! #UKEdChat

 jackieschneider 20:44

#ukedchat - how many training courses have you sat at with gritted

teeth forced to complete moronic task while keenie writes down

own ideas

mikeatedji 20:45

@bevevans22 #ukedchat I refer you to insporational @Sugatam

for collaborative work with 4 pupils to one computer...See TED

talks or Youtube

richspencer1979 20:45 #ukedchat ANY group, by definition, is of mixed ability - makes

differentiation by role and task essential, not an optional extra...

CliveBuckley 20:45 Everyone learns best in the garden :) #ukedchat

In2schools 20:45@smnhunt @CreativeEdu Brilliant! Let me know how it goes!

#ukedchat

colport 20:45 OAA = Outdoor Adventurous Activities (I think) #ukedchat

victoryoak 20:45

RT @BenRogersOVA: I'm developing group tasks which don't

require a teacher to say whether it has been achieved. It gives me

time to observe them #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:45assessment info here too - http://www.edutopia.org/ #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:45 #ukedchat PE is great collaboration... team sports!

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dailydenouement 20:45

Great. Thanks! RT @digitalmaverick: Also Andrew Churches

brilliant site has some great rubrics for assessment

http://bit.ly/lz80Z1 #ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 20:45 @passionateaboot #ukedchat sorry unclear- what model?

JOHNSAYERS 20:45RT @MrsPrentice11: 6 hat thinking works well with groups

#ukedchat

colport 20:45 Perhaps in a bid to promote collaboration, we should do more

outdoor OAA activities to help develop the skills #ukedchat

tim7168 20:45 @bevevans22 Lol #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:45RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - how many training courses have

you sat at with gritted teeth forced to complete moronic task while

keenie writes down own ideas

deerwood 20:45@LouiW not naughty at all, identifying what tools oe equip you

need is important part of problem solving #ukedchat

In2schools 20:46RT @bilehs: if children are in control of their learning and havemade choices and decisions, the collaboration is much more

effective #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:46 @colport We've just had a traverse wall installed so pupils can take

part in collaborative adventurous activities #ukedchat

digitalmaverick 20:46

Also @berniedodge's QuestGarden (the home of his brilliant,

collaborative WebQuests), is the seminal source of rubrics for grp

wrk #ukedchat

victoryoak 20:46RT @colport: @BenRogersOVA SShhh, don't tell anyone ;-)

#ukedchat

petermoseley 20:46@smnhunt #ukedchat Collaboration with a healthy bit of 

competition!

colport 20:46Am starting the think more outside the box (classroom walls) here

in supporting collaboration. #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:46RT @colport: There are many great OAA activities within PE for

collaboration #ukedchat

Mr_P_Teach 20:46 #ukedchat Lit and Num hour killed collaborative work. Time to

bring it back. Teach them how to do it and they fly with it

bilehs 20:46 if children are in control of their learning and have made choices

and decisions, the collaboration is much more effective #ukedchat

cherrylkd 20:46

@headteacher01 #ukedchat every wk, whatever the subject we

say EYFS have it right. Should some of the theory be carried

through KS2?

Creativeedu 20:46RT @smnhunt: #ukedchat One of the best group activities I've

organised was one with a financial incentive!

colport 20:47

@Grevster73 By giving them outdoor collaborative tasks to

complete first, before expecting it within the classroom?

#ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 20:47@xPunzx @CreativeEdu Yes- I was referring to chn working ingroups when they have defined roles/tasks- ie a new way of 

working... #ukedchat

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ICTmagic 20:47 @bilehs Thanks. I will have a closer look also. #ukedchat

maxrayner 20:47

@richspencer1979 unless there is no fixed outcome for the task so

differentiation by outcome rather than how you get there

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:47

RT @richspencer1979: #ukedchat ANY group, by definition, is of 

mixed ability - makes differentiation by role and task essential, not

an optional extra...colport 20:47 @bevevans22 and? or is it to early to say? #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:47 #ukedchat Great chat - Got to go - busy setting up own business 'Is

your school in the media for all the right reasons?' ning.it/l4Xka9

Grevster73 20:47How can we make collaborative working authentic? #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:47

RT @bilehs: if children are in control of their learning and have

made choices and decisions, the collaboration is much more

effective #ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:47#ukedchat - my best groupwork - using drums, making a film,building giant paper structures, marking out giant whale

dimensions in playgroun

Creativeedu 20:48Does group working necessarily = collaborative working?

#UKEdChat

learnbuzz 20:48 @Grevster73 give it a real context - check out

http://www.tigweb.org/tiged/school/getstarted.html #ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:48

@colport As long as the digital data is stored on secure servers

with restricted access only to teachers then I cant see a problem

#ukedchat

richspencer1979 20:48 #ukedchat I'm struggling to think of a time when I've had two to a

computer and been convinced good collaboration taking place...

IslingtonEMAS 20:48

@xPunzx @CreativeEdu ...and them getting confused when it's a

new way of working AND there's new subject knowledge on top!

#ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:48 @dailydenouement @bilehs definitely! #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:48

@colport you have to give roles job specs of what they have to

practice to be say a good manager, line worker and assess those.

#ukedchat

alexgingell 20:48Residentials and outdoor activities support group work and

collaboration to great extent #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:48Great question. RT @Grevster73: How can we make collaborative

working authentic? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:48@mikeatedji @Sugatam Yes - seen that Just think laptops are

easier for sharing/collaborating around. #ukedchat

maxrayner 20:49@colport not the role the skills being used, important to focus on

skills as well as content #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:49How can you keep behaviour under control during group work?

#UKEdChat

xPunzx 20:49 @IslingtonEMAS @CreativeEdu oh right yes I agree, theyve gotta

get used to group work and ur expectations! #ukedchat

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colport 20:49 @SimonBainbridge The key is a collection of teachers. Images not

stored and accessed only by one teacher? #ukedchat

gillpenny 20:49

All my teachers attended a 3 day academy on cooperative learning

which really helped them take a new approach to group working

#ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:49@colport they throw in some problems to solve and you monitorwhether group allowed all to give a comment suggestion

#ukedchat

 jackieschneider 20:49#ukedchat - music making is incredibly collaborative without need

for endless teacher talk

bevevans22 20:49

@colport Early signs are good. Our program of PE for KS2 includes

orienteering, group challenges &dancing - all require team work

#ukedchat

helenhamill 20:49

#ukedchat you set groups- you design each possible role and then

watch them assess each other. helps mixed ability.include

extension option!

colport 20:49@JOHNSAYERS But you are not assessing what has been learned

then. You are assessing the role #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:49 @JenniH68 @bilehs Have you two tried http://kidblog.org? That

what I used with my children. #ukedchat

CliveBuckley 20:50 RT @chrissibthorpe: Just read an article about #ukedchat - didn't

even know what it was before today. Can students contribute?

maxrayner 20:50@Creativeedu think you have to accept a higher level of chat, so

long as most of it is on task i'm happy #ukedchat

tim7168 20:50I'm currently reading Kagan Cooperative Learning, hoping to

implement lots of ideas soon. #ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:50

Collaboration enables students to get ready for working in a

modern working enviroment where collaboration is essential!

#ukedchat

colport 20:50@maxrayner Trying telling that to the SLT, who are results focused

:-s #ukedchat (playing devil's advocate again here)

PetermSkelton 20:50@sh_hanes responsibility pie charts are always good for self 

assessing group work #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:50 No, that's a prob at 2ndry. Some just sit off RT @Creativeedu: Does

group working necessarily = collaborative working? #UKEdChat

phys1cs 20:50

@CreativeEdu RT: @Hero_project @phys1cs a company called

@talentdynamics are developing exactly what you are talking

about #ukedchat

chrissibthorpe 20:50Just read an article about #ukedchat - didn't even know what it

was before today. Can students contribute?

ikeontoast 20:50We've had over 270 votes on our sandwich comp - wow thanks

http://t.co/FYAzp3M #ukedchat #edchat #addcym

passionateaboot 20:50

Apologies if I've clogged up any non-teaching followers feeds.

Thursday night from 8-9 is #ukedchat debate. You know I love agood debate

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web20education 20:50

New post #curation #edtech20 #edtools of the day #scrible

transform research experience #edchat #ukedchat #edreform #sm

http://t.co/YTBWmHg

mikeatedji 20:51@bevevans22 #ukedchat Fair point but possible still in ICT with

practice and interesrting tasks!

 jackieschneider 20:51 @chrissibthorpe - fancy meeting you here! #ukedchat

MusicMediaMad 20:51@CreativeEdu Various ways to control behaviour in groups; anessential is knowing the personalities that you're putting together!

#UKEdChat

sh_hanes 20:51

“@gillpenny: teachers attended a 3 day academy on

cooperative learning... helped... new approach to group working

#ukedchatâ€sounds brilliant

Grevster73 20:51@learnbuzz @colport this leads me to think 'what do we consider

to be authentic tasks'? #ukedchat

Creativeedu 20:51

RT @chrissibthorpe: Just read an article about #ukedchat - didn't

even know what it was before today. Can students contribute?

<ace idea!

IslingtonEMAS 20:51

We have top tips on our site www.islingtonemas.camb-ed.com if 

anyone wants a looksy. many relevant to collab. learning.

#ukedchat

Educationchat 20:51

As with everything in education, teach them a skill & give them

opportunities to apply. Except Gove who'd just teach them facts.

#ukedchat

smnhunt 20:51#ukedchat @dailydenoument No... lots of collaboration can

eventually lead to individual outcomes!

hairbyslice 20:51

#ukedchat Cooperative v Collaborative. Group roles unpopular.

Reduce conflict, restricts enjoyment. Ch prefer turn taking?

Perceived fairer?

In2schools 20:51

@bevevans22 @colport We have a provider who can come and

bring assault courses, zip wires etc to schools:

http://bit.ly/kXBMGD #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:51

@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat group working necessarily collaborative

if children all given partial info which needs to be pooled to solve

problem

dailydenouement 20:51

RT @gillpenny: All my teachers attended a 3 day academy on

cooperative learning which really helped them take a new

approach to group working #ukedchat

gillpenny 20:51

@CreativeEdu my teachers find behaviour good during group

work if groups structured well & activities carefully planned

#UKEdChat

dailydenouement 20:51RT @Creativeedu: How can you keep behaviour under control

during group work? #UKEdChat

 jackieschneider 20:51#ukedchat - shame we grownups in school don't model

collaborative learning #mywayorthehighway

IslingtonEMAS 20:52

...all r relevant to learners with EAL and 4 that matter, ALL learners,

as good EAL practice is just GOOD practice. I'll stop now!

#ukedchat

gillpenny 20:52 Its quite hard to keep up with #ukedchat !

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Creativeedu 20:52 @UKEdChat wonder if there'd be any milage in a student special

#UKEdChat if done in school hours? @chrissibthorpe

dailydenouement 20:52

Such a good point! RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - shame we

grownups in school don't model collaborative learning

#mywayorthehighway

SimonBainbridge 20:52 @colport I agree the images and videos should never be restricted

to only one teacher for ethical reasons! #ukedchat

xPunzx 20:52@CreativeEdu clear roles, clear expectations, if people dont follow

them, theyre out! #ukedchat

tim7168 20:52@maxrayner @creativeedu Level of chat is good, it's volume that

can be hard to control! #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:52

RT @hairbyslice: #ukedchat Cooperative v Collaborative. Group

roles unpopular. Reduce conflict, restricts enjoyment. Ch prefer

turn taking? Perceived fairer?

sevim77 20:53 #UKEdChat timing the various activities they have to completeworks well with me- an online timer is great!

ICTmagic 20:53@ChrisSibthorpe Anyone can contribute. Welcome. #ukedchat

tim7168 20:53@smnhunt Obviously you haven't met my class...at their loudest

you can't hear yourself think! #ukedchat

Janshs 20:53RT @dailydenouement: Such a good point! RT @jackieschneider:

#ukedchat - shame we grownups in school don't model

collaborative learning #mywayorthehighway

shfarnsworth 20:53

RT @SimonBainbridge: Collaboration enables students to get ready

for working in a modern working enviroment where collaboration

is essential! #ukedchat

JOHNSAYERS 20:53@colport we shouldn't just assess knowledge but skills, thinking,

teamwork/help #ukedchat

Grevster73 20:53@gillpenny just dip in and out - that's how I keep up! ie I don't!

#ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:53

RT @SimonBainbridge: Collaboration enables students to get ready

for working in a modern working enviroment where collaboration

is essential! #ukedchat

colport 20:53

RT @JOHNSAYERS: @colport your assessing the thinking really with

collaboration I think mainly. #ukedchat

learnbuzz 20:53 @Grevster73 or more to the point, what do children consider to be

authentic tasks - they soon let you know! #ukedchat

dailydenouement 20:53

Me too! My new project! RT @tim7168: I'm currently reading

Kagan Cooperative Learning, hoping to implement lots of ideas

soon. #ukedchat

colport 20:53 @Grevster73 @learnbuzz Indeed. What one teacher considers

authentic, another will think is rubbish #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:53@PetermSkelton #ukedchat responsibility pie charts? Pls tell more!

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ICTmagic 20:53

RT @Educationchat: As with everything in education, teach them a

skill & give them opportunities to apply. Except Gove who'd just

teach them facts. #ukedchat

passionateaboot 20:53#ukedchat Final thing before I go - we've set up a social network

for school sport - love some feedback

smnhunt 20:53#ukedchat Not bothered about volume... Just shut the door!

sevim77 20:54#UKEdChat group doesn't always mean collaboration, but can be a

lesson in tolerance!

deerwood 20:54Again I'm using @ifttt to track #ukedchat tweets and collate in

@evernote

sh_hanes 20:54

RT @Creativeedu: @UKEdChat wonder if there'd be any milage in a

student special #UKEdChat if done in school hours?

@chrissibthorpe

colport 20:54 @smnhunt Yes, yes, yes #ukedchat

mikeatedji 20:54#ukedchat Maybe, when groupwork "fails", that should be the

starting point for the next session

colport 20:54 Ok, we are entering last five minutes of #ukedchat this evening.

Any final thoughts / reflections / ideas you would like to share?

ukedchat 20:54 Ok, we are entering last five minutes of #ukedchat this evening.

Any final thoughts / reflections / ideas you would like to share?

bevevans22 20:54

@mikeatedji #ukedchat we use some multimouse programs &have

pupils sharing/ working together - just good to have options

#ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:54

Good collaboration tools enables students in different classes

accross the school to work together! Or maybe in different

schools? #ukedchat

Mr_P_Teach 20:54 #ukedchat You get collaboration when it's a whole school thing.

The skill of it has progression like anything else. Sell it to all is part1

Creativeedu 20:54How much freedom do you give learners during group work?

#UKEdChat

xPunzx 20:54 just wanted to say i love #ukedchat gives me so many ideas and

inspires me!

Grevster73 20:54 RT @colport: @Grevster73 @learnbuzz Indeed. What one teacher

considers authentic, another will think is rubbish #ukedchat

smnhunt 20:54 #ukedchat So there is a part for negotiated learning to play in

deciding group work tasks. Hand it over to the kids... @colport

maxrayner 20:54

@tim7168 i say 1metre voices, if they can be heard on the other

tables get a warning and sanctions - keeps volume down

#ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 20:55Dont worry about collaboration failing as a lot can be learnt from

failure! #ukedchat

colport 20:55@CliveBuckley Absolutely....we are experts #ukedchat DOH!

mikeatedji 20:55 @bevevans22 #ukedchat Good point

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maxrayner 20:58 tasks need to be designed specifically for it and kids need clear

idea of guidelines and roles as well as outcome #ukedchat

Janshs 20:58RT @ukedchat: You can vote for next weeks #ukedchat discussion

topic NOW, at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

craftyslh 20:58 thanks for all the links to new ideas to incorporate group work withmy students. #ukedchat - can't wait to think outside the box.

Creativeedu 20:58 Collaboration is a great tool for learning especially if taken beyond

the classroom and beyond simple group work #UKEdChat

bilehs 20:58 Flashmeeting, skype, etwinning and global gateway are fab for

collaboration with other schools, anywhere in world #ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 20:58 @ICTmagic #ukedchat NC: it gets explictly taught?

ICTmagic 20:59

Collaborative work is the bedrock of teaching in the modern

classroom. It how people work in the real world because it worksbest. #ukedchat

sh_hanes 20:59#ukedchat excellent chat tonight! Thanks everyone, I think we

deserve 10/10 for modelling good group learning!

dailydenouement 20:59 Indeed! Cheers everyone. RT @Arakwai: Wow, busy #ukedchat this

evening. Great range of thoughts and ideas.

smnhunt 20:59#ukedchat There's no such thing as copying, only sharing!

@jackieschneider

davidhunter 20:59Anyone here use kagan style. Would like to start a little network

group. #ukedchat

carolinebreyley 20:59 @jackieschneider #ukedchat Need to work with some parents to

help them understand that it won't cause copying

tim7168 20:59

RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - you can't accuse kids of copying

one min & then expect them to share\ collaborate the next! We

need more collaboration

gregperry_ 20:59 @CreativeEdu Specific instructions helps grpwk go well behaviour

wise. Numbering the roles, using a talk stick help too. #ukedchat

craftyslh 20:59

RT @bilehs: Flashmeeting, skype, etwinning and global gateway

are fab for collaboration with other schools, anywhere in world

#ukedchat tnx

 jackieschneider 20:59RT @richspencer1979: All right STOP, collaborate and LISTEN - Ice,

ice baby (Vanilla Ice) #ukedchat

In2schools 20:59Signing off from #ukedchat- sorry arrived so late but managed to

catch interesting chat going on, thanks!

BenRogersOVA 20:59

@dailydenouement #ukedchat Absolutely assessment drives the

teaching. If group work is assessed, teachers will find ways to teach

it.

paappleton 21:00Squeezing a normal half terms worth of work into a four week half 

term is sooo not a good idea... #ukedchat

primarypete_ 21:00RT @colport: You can vote for next weeks #ukedchat discussion

topic NOW, at http://bit.ly/cA0cBZ

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bilehs 21:01@SimonBainbridge That's why mantle of the expert is so fab -

preparation for working life! #ukedchat

Creativeedu 21:02@dailydenouement thanks for a great #UKEdChat and good luck to

your BTEC students!

alexgingell 21:02Great #ukedchat session this evening - joined late but learnt lots!

Loads of very interesting ideas! Thanks all!

tim7168 21:02 @BenRogersOVA Massively agree. If assessment built in, group

work becomes more integral to classroom. #ukedchat

Grevster73 21:02@tim7168 is copying bad though or just an exchange of a good

idea? #ukedchat

davidhunter 21:02 @tim7168 will do. Didn't seem to be much mention tonight (just

logged in) but plays a huge part of my philosophy #ukedchat

ErinMorleyS 21:02RT @richspencer1979: All right STOP, collaborate and LISTEN - Ice,

ice baby (Vanilla Ice) #ukedchat

Catriona_O 21:02 @dailydenouement sometimes we do! #learningrounds #ukedchathttp://bit.ly/dorJT8

sh_hanes 21:02RT @phys1cs: Thanks everyone for letting get started on

#ukedchat. Would love some followers...nudge.

Creativeedu 21:02Anyone got any ideas from tonight's #UKEdChat that they're going

to use in the classroom tomorrow?

mikeatedji 21:02#ukedchat @dailydenouement Thank you and to everyone.

Engaging, hectic, informativissimo

SimonBainbridge 21:02RT @bilehs That's why mantle of the expert is so fab - preparation

for working life! #ukedchat - I totally agree!

tim7168 21:02

RT @BenRogersOVA: @dailydenouement #ukedchat Absolutely

assessment drives the teaching. If group work is assessed, teachers

will find ways to teach it.

IslingtonEMAS 21:02

@BenRogersOVA #ukedchat Isn't it though?! I love it. The kids love

it. The staff become animated, even after 4pm!

#greatlearningopportunity

ICTmagic 21:02 @Mr_P_Teach Rod for their own back and damaging the life

chances of children in their care. Makes me sad. #ukedchat

tim7168 21:03 @Grevster73 Often it is good, but sometimes mindlessly trying to

get task done so won't get into trouble. #ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 21:03

@BenRogersOVA #ukedchat True-primaries can be phenomenal-

having trained both sec & pri colleagues- loads to learn from KS3+

as well!

sh_hanes 21:03@Creativeedu maybe not tomorrow but going to try role badges

#ukedchat

elebelfiore 21:03

RT @culturelearning: BBC says Eng Baccalaureate makes it

impossible to offer Music GCSE:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13522699 #artsfunding

#ukedchat

Catriona_O 21:03 sorry I missed it again tonight #ukedchat. Hoping to get back intomy stride soon

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Grevster73 21:04@tim7168 comes down to the learning culture and what kids

value when learning #ukedchat

carolinebreyley 21:04

@dailydenouement #ukedchat Thanks for another great hour -

have had to miss last few week's really pleased to be able to join in

again :)

tim7168 21:04

RT @cherrylkd: @dailydenouement @colport Thanks for another

fab #ukedchat . Lots of good collaboration going on tonight. Lotslearnt for me.

tim7168 21:04@davidhunter Yeah I was surprised it wasn't more widely talked

about #ukedchat

cherrylkd 21:04 @dailydenouement @colport Thanks for another fab #ukedchat .

Lots of good collaboration going on tonight. Lots learnt for me.

mattpearson 21:04

RT @ICTmagic: Collaborative work is the bedrock of teaching in

classroom. It's how people work in the real world; it works best.

#ukedchat

SimonBainbridge 21:04 @alexgingell yep and thats where the teachers professional

 judgement becomes vitaly important! #ukedchat

IslingtonEMAS 21:05Colleagues great #ukedchat , enjoy your half terms and to all- a

good rest!

smnhunt 21:05#ukedchat Thanks all for some great ideas. Got about 20 webpages

lined up to read now...

chrissibthorpe 21:05

Just discovered #ukedchat - now I know where teachers hide!

Claiming their 'marking' whilst busily tweeting! Students need 1 -

ukstuchat?

Grevster73 21:06@colport great #ukedchat - missed a few weeks - got me thinking

again

craftyslh 21:06RT @IslingtonEMAS: Colleagues great #ukedchat , enjoy your half 

terms and to all- a good rest!

bilehs 21:06I'm exhausted after that #ukedchat. Did I mention I'm new to this!

Couldn't keep up!

bevevans22 21:06Another great #ukedchat. Thanks everyone - lots of great ideas!

Now time for a cuppa and a biccie thinks I :)

tim7168 21:07@Grevster73 Agreed. Need to establish 'good copying' vs not

trying! #ukedchat

craftyslh 21:07

@bilehs to keep up with #ukedchat I thoroughly recommend

www.twitterfall.com you hover over a message and it all pauses

while you catch up.

clairelowe2 21:07

#ukedchat need to teach collaborative skills it doesn't happen by

osmosis. Abiloty Groups gd for guided work but rest of time mixed

is best

Creativeedu 21:08I'm going to compile a post of tips about how to get the most out

of #UKEdChat please tweet me your top tips.

deepexperience1 21:08 #ukedchat Missed it tonight doing Scouts run!

 jackieschneider 21:09Just made a coffee & walnut cake whilst tweeting along with

#ukedchat. How's that for multitasking #stickyipad

maxrayner 21:09 @CreativeEdu dont try to read, reply to everything, like a lessonobservation have a focus #ukedchat

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Grevster73 21:09 RT @tim7168: @Grevster73 Agreed. Need to establish 'good

copying' vs not trying! #ukedchat < I like this distinction!

IslingtonEMAS 21:09 #ukedchat Did I add please follow us?? ;-) Looking for some ideas

for upcoming (free) webinars if you have suggestions ...

mattpearson 21:10 RT @phys1cs: Thanks everyone for letting get started on#ukedchat. Would love some followers...nudge.

IslingtonEMAS 21:11@jackieschneider #ukedchat Impressive multi tasking ! recipe

please!

victoryoak 21:11

RT @IslingtonEMAS: @BenRogersOVA #ukedchat True-primaries

can be phenomenal- having trained both sec & pri colleagues-

loads to learn from KS3+ as well!