treiyer says that john is not backward

Upload: maicol-alejandro-cortes-pino

Post on 02-Mar-2018

213 views

Category:

Documents


0 download

TRANSCRIPT

  • 7/26/2019 Treiyer Says That John is Not Backward

    1/2

    Treiyer says that John is not backward (in relation with theconnection 1:19-4:1) (the fnal crisis in revelation 4-5, 2)

    There is a good point in the connection that treiyer do about the

    lightings, thunders and voices (23)

    Other good point there is in the pag. 24 about the voice of the trumpetin this case truiyer connect this to the ay of !tonement

    Other good idea from triyer is that the seven church lives in the timethat the door is open and the promise to this is "sit #ith $esus in thisthrone%, the same that happen in the ne&t vision. (2')

    good idea is that need to do a e&egetical study about ev 4*+2,specially the #ord " #ill sho# you #hat must ta-e place after this%

    ! "ood e#e"etical st$dy will be abo$t %ev 5:& 'seven sirithere * need to analy+e the word 'they are send to the earth

    Treiyer present that #hen esus come for second time he sit in the thronebecause he comes to udge and he /uotes some biblical verses (20)

    One good thin- is try to ans#er the /uestion 1hy ohn cry f esusascend to the heaven

    +. the song that sing the court in heaven in revelation al#ays is lin- in

    this boo- #ith the eschatological udgment. (g., 32) in this part remember that $on aulien mention that one song is possible sing inmany moments so the /uestion is this son appear in other places of thebible or evelation, if the ans#er in not then pauliens idea dont have#eight because he can present the idea about the "%silent% thats meansthat "if that #ord does not appear does not mean it is not so% since if heused this here then Treiyer can use that idea that even you dont 5ndany #ord about the udgment in this scene thats not means that thisscene is not udgment.

    2. see the pag 43 about the elders is very interest the treiyers idea

    una 6uena idea /ue se me ocurrio es /ue si a la septima iglesia $es7s lepromote sentarse con el en su trono (future, anali8ar el verbo en griego)debo revisar si el uso del verbo future en apocalipsis da la idea deprofecia (recordemos /ue paulien al comentar rev+3 dice /ue la mitadde este capitulo habla con verbos futuros por lo /ue es la parte profeticadel mismo) asi como el se sento (pasado en e trono), entonces si apoc.4y 9 habla de la entroni8acion y /ue los 24 ancianos son las primicias,

  • 7/26/2019 Treiyer Says That John is Not Backward

    2/2

    entonces no cuadraria con la escena ya /ue paa /ue tenga valide8tendria /ue probar /ue las primicias se pueden sentar en el trono antesde

    treiyer present a good argument in relation #ith the throne, cause some

    people thin- if in revelation ohn mention that the throne in front to thecandelabrum then this vision is about the 5rst department (++:, +++)the reality is that all this chapter is very useful (;hapter 3)

    in the page ++< #e can see a lot of theologians that support the ideathat ev 49 is the yom -ippur.