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PUBLIC MEETING ON THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR OPERABLE UNITS 1, 2 AND 3

SOUTHWEST JEFFERSON COUNTY MINING SUPERFUND SITE JEFFERSON COUNTY, MISSOURI

h e l d a t the J e f f e r s o n County F a i r g r o u n d s 10349 Highway 21

H i l l s b o r o , M i s s o u r i 63050 6:30 p.m.

Reported by: Celena D. Moulton, RPR, CCR, CSR

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MR. GUNN: Welcome to the p u b l i c meeting

f o r the Southwest Jeff e r s o n County Mining Superfund

S i t e .

Y o u ' l l notice there are three proposed

plans that are out here. They're a c t u a l l y i d e n t i c a l

except d i f f e r e n t areas i n the county are included i n

them.

I want to introduce some people who are

here. My name i s Gene Gunn. I'm the Branch Chief of

the Superfund Program i n Kansas C i t y . Most of the s i t e s

are i n my branch. I want to introduce Evan K i f e r from

the Missouri Department of Natural Resources; Art Bush

and Mary Locke f o r the Missouri Senior Services.

From the EPA, there are several of us here:

K e l l y C a t l i n , Regional Counsel; Debbie Crane from Public

A f f a i r s ; Jason Gunter, Project Works Manager from

St. Francois County; Preston Law f o r t h i s s i t e ; and Hoai

Tran, oversight f o r the pr o j e c t .

Sorry. John Smith f o r the Jef f e r s o n County

Health Department i n d i c a t e d that there are free blood

screens a v a i l a b l e .

MR. SMITH: For c h i l d r e n , we ask that you

c a l l our o f f i c e . We have.limited funds. We're going to

have our nurses at one or the other s i t e s . But w e ' l l be

glad to do that. Set up an appointment and come i n f o r

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a blood draw, a lead check.

MR. GUNN: Any p u b l i c o f f i c i a l s that want

to be recognized that we haven't recognized yet?

What we're going to do i s go through a

short presentation. Preston Law, the project manager

from the s i t e , w i l l make that presentation.

I t u s u a l l y works best i f you hold questions

u n t i l we get through that; then w e ' l l answer some of

your questions. Then w e ' l l have an exchange,

question-and-answer session a f t e r the presentation.

So why don't we go ahead and get star t e d ,

Preston?

MR. LAW: When we get to the

question-and-answer portion, when you ask a question,

stand up and say your name so the court reporter can get

i t logged down on who i s saying what and who i s

responding.

So w e ' l l s t a r t the presentation. What Gene

Gunn j u s t said, t h i s i s r e l a t i n g to the Southwest

Jefferson County Mining S i t e , Operable Units 1, 2, 3.

Those are a l l r e s i d e n t i a l u n i t s .

The purpose of the meeting i s to provide

basic background information f o r the s i t e , to give you

our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e f o r the clean-up on the s i t e ,

addressing the mine waste and i t s contaminated s o i l at

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the r e s i d e n t i a l properties and provide a forum to

receive p u b l i c comments from the community.

And i n a d d i t i o n to comments here, you

should have some cards you can write on i f you don't

want to stand up and speak. You can c a l l our o f f i c e s .

And we have contact information f o r Debbie, who w i l l

take those.

Another thing, e a r l y on, I'd l i k e to t a l k

about what t h i s i s . So a proposed plan i s -- i t ' s our

proposed remedy f o r the s i t e , s p e c i f i c a l l y . So there's

three s p e c i f i c ones set up there that's 25, 26 pages

long that goes over the h i s t o r y , r i s k and what we're

proposing to do f o r the clean-up. That's what the plan

i s and that's what we're t a l k i n g about tonight.

So f o r a l i t t l e b i t of s i t e h i s t o r y , mining

a c t i v i t i e s began i n Jef f e r s o n County i n the e a r l y 1800s.

The f i r s t two mines were set up i n 1818. We had some

other mines opening up throughout the 1830s and '40s.

And then we have three smelters i n the

area, as w e l l , that were a c t i v e . Three m i l l i o n pounds

were shipped out of the county. That was an annual

shipment, h i s t o r i c a l l y , making i t a large lead producer

i n the area.

There are several other counties nearby

that also produced large amounts l i k e St. Francois

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County, Madison County, Washington County.

So these are the areas that we're t a l k i n g

about. So where we're at r i g h t here, t h i s i s the

southwest quadrant, which i s why t h i s i s designated

Southwest Jef f e r s o n County Mining S i t e s . So t h i s i s the

h i s t o r i c mines i n Jeffe r s o n County.

We have large mining areas throughout the

state, though, as you can see. T r i - S t a t e i n the

southwest p o r t i o n i s a very large mining area, as w e l l .

And we have superfund s i t e s there.

This document -- I know t h i s i s a hard map

to see, so we p r i n t e d i t o f f and you're free to go look

at i t . This i s where we've done sampling f o r

r e s i d e n t i a l yards so f a r .

We have c l u s t e r s here that have some heavy

contamination, that were areas they have brought i n ,

from mine waste i t s e l f .

The Big River has some contamination i n

fl o o d p l a i n s . Some of that was borrowed out to grow

grass and what-not. Those neighborhoods have been

extensively contaminated. So we've been doing clean-ups

i n those areas f o r several years.

There are several other areas i n the county

that have contamination that w i l l be i n red. I f they're

red, they're above 1,2 00; yellow i f they're above our

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clean-up range here; and green i f they're below 400

parts per m i l l i o n . Out of a l l of these counties, there

i s a spread. It's not just a Jefferson County problem.

The only exclusion i s Herculaneum. It's a

separate s i t e that's got a 1.5 mile exclusion zone.

Now, those properties are taken care of under the

Herculaneum s i t e . So you'll see that on the map, as

well.

Some of the background on the remedial

process, we l i s t i t on the National P r i o r i t y L i s t f i r s t .

It goes through a discovery phase where we identify that

there i s some problem on the s i t e . Then we'll do some

investigation work and we'll come up with a scoring

package.

And then once i t scores, i f i t scores high

enough, then we'll propose i t for l i s t i n g , put out a

notice on that. And after the proposal period, we'll

actually l i s t i t on the s i t e . So this s i t e l i s t e d i n

2009.

After the s i t e i s l i s t e d , we'll start a

remedial investigation, which we've just recently done

here on the s i t e . So what that entails i s co l l e c t i n g

data, going out and doing f i e l d work, sampling yards.

Some people had their yards sampled again to get some

laboratory analysis.

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So we p u l l e d that i n and got the

b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y data that i n d i c a t e s how accessible the

lead i n the yards i s to humans, p a r t i c u l a r l y c h i l d r e n ,

young c h i l d r e n up to seven years o l d . So that was part

of what the study accomplished.

Then once we're done with a l l that, we

develop a document c a l l e d a Remedial I n v e s t i g a t i o n , The

document i s the administrative record i n the De Soto

Public L i b r a r y and i n our EPA Headquarters B u i l d i n g . I f

you want to review those documents, I can give you that

information s p e c i f i c a l l y . I t ' s i n the proposed plan

there, too.

A f t e r that, we do a f e a s i b i l i t y study.

Those are done oftentimes simultaneously, or they're

staggered. We j u s t f i n i s h e d the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n

i n May and then completed the study i n June.

We take the RI r e s u l t s and we se l e c t

a l t e r n a t i v e s out of that. So we fi g u r e out what the

r i s k s are and t r y to f i n d some a l t e r n a t i v e s . Do we

trea t i t with chemicals? Do we need to d i g i t out?

Those sorts of things.

We come up with the best a l t e r n a t i v e . So

what a l t e r n a t i v e makes the most sense, i s the best f o r

the community, the health, the environment, things along

those l i n e s .

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We have a no-action a l t e r n a t i v e that we put

i n there. That's i f we do nothing. We take zero

a c t i o n . We always have that i n there to compare so we

can look at other a l t e r n a t i v e s . That's a requirement.

A f t e r that, we develop a proposed plan.

That's where we are r i g h t now. We j u s t developed that

recently. Again, i t ' s an admin i s t r a t i v e record and

there are copies there. That's where we declare what

our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e i s , which one we s e l e c t . We

send i t out to the p u b l i c . So i t ' s been put out to the

pu b l i c i n the state administrative record. I t ' s been

there since J u l y 5th.

There i s normally a one-month period. The

newspaper was a week l a t e i n reporting i t , probably

because of the holiday. You know, i t ' s hard f o r them.

I t was around J u l y 4th, so i t came a week l a t e r . So

we're going to extend i t one week. I t ' s a c t u a l l y J u l y

5th to August 12th. That's what we're going by.

Then we have the response to comments that

w e ' l l develop l a t e r on. So that's a development that

happens i n between the proposed plan. That's taking a l l

your comments and doing a response to each one.

So i f you say, "I don't l i k e the

a l t e r n a t i v e " , we would look at why that i s i n the

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any, changes need to be taken.

So then we've got the threshold c r i t e r i a

here. So t h i s i s part of the nine c r i t e r i a we use to

make these s e l e c t i o n on the c r i t e r i a . The f i r s t are the

nine c r i t e r i a .

The f i r s t one i s -- the mission i s to the

o v e r a l l p r o t e c t i o n of human health and the environment.

That's always the f i r s t thing we look at when t r y i n g to

sele c t the remedy, i s what i s the most e f f e c t i v e remedy

we have.

Then there's compliance with the ARARs that

we have, state requirements on various numbers of

things: The d i s p o s a l , how we're handling a l t e r n a t i v e s

that we're s e l e c t i n g . So that's the process of that,

f o l l o w i n g a l l permits that we're able to, both

applicable, relevant and appropriate.

Then we have the primary balancing

c r i t e r i a . There's several of these, as you can see.

Long-term effectiveness and permanence. So how

e f f e c t i v e i s i t going to be over a period of 10 years,

20 years, the l i f e t i m e of the s i t e ? How i s that going

to p u l l through?

Reduction of t o x i c i t y , m o b i l i t y or volume.

So i f we can use a treatment method to take care of a

problem, how e f f e c t i v e w i l l that be i n reducing the

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actual m o b i l i t y or the t o x i c i t y of i t . So i t w i l l make

i t l e s s a v a i l a b l e f o r intake to a c h i l d , f o r intake of

lead, that w i l l be a c r i t e r i a .

Short-term e f f e c t i v e n e s s , a l o t of times

that's the l i f e of the project i t s e l f during the

construction phase. I f we create a high r i s k to the

residents, how much of an impact i s that r i s k to the

construction workers themselves. So that's something we

need to take a look at.

Is i t implementable? So are we able to --

for example, can we implement treatment? We give an

example of -- i f we i n j e c t chemicals i n t o the ground, i s

that a v i a b l e solution? Is the study enough to make

that decision? Those are the things we look at there.

And then cost i s always an important

f a c t o r . This i s a fund lead s i t e . The funding i s

provided by the taxpayer. Funding of the s i t e s i s

always something to look at. Modifying c r i t e r i a , these

are a f t e r we kind of develop the proposed plan.

We have the state's acceptance from MDNR

here. We're going to develop a proposed plan. They're

going to agree with a plan or they're going to come up

with comments the same way the community w i l l and take

those proposed plans.

And community acceptance, that's why we're

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here today. We've received some comments over the phone

already. We'll compile a l l of them. We'll compile our

comments here and come up with a response to comments

and a record d e c i s i o n . That may influence the f i n a l

d e c i s i o n .

A f t e r we're done with that, we a c t u a l l y

develop the Record of Decision. That's the f i n a l

d e c i s i o n that records those comments. The f i r s t thing

to do i s prepare the response to comments. Then w e ' l l

write the f i n a l d e c i s i o n based on proposed plans.

And then w e ' l l announce and p u b l i s h that

d e c i s i o n . So that w i l l also be an administrative record

that w i l l be done once we're done with i t . We w i l l have

a f u l l p u b l i c a t i o n once we're done with i t .

A f t e r the de c i s i o n documents f i n a l i z e the

Record of Decision, w e ' l l do a remedial design. For a

project l i k e t h i s , with yards, a l o t of times we have

a d d i t i o n a l sampling of properties. We have a l o t of

properties that need to be sampled. We're continuing

that work today. So remedial design w i l l be an

extension of that sampling.

Also, we've got some yards that are --

they're i n the r i v e r f l o o d p l a i n . There's another f i g u r e

over there that y o u ' l l see that they're very close to

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how we're going to keep from impacting the r i v e r i t s e l f

when we're doing excavation so close. So that w i l l be a

design a c t i v i t y .

Then we have remedial a c t i o n . That's

excavation and disposal remedy. So that's the proposed

remedy.

Afterwards w i l l be fi v e - y e a r reviews. Any

properties that are l e f t that are l i m i t e d use, w e ' l l go

back a f t e r f i v e years, see i f they're s t i l l protected.

I f we're excavating an area, w e ' l l put some p r o t e c t i o n

down to see i f that's s t i l l an e f f e c t i v e measure f o r the

community, i f that's working.

So that's the kind of thing to do i n a

five-year review; also looking at the disposal area and

making sure that s t u f f i s taken care of and making sure

we're p r o t e c t i n g health and environment.

And.after that i s done, we would d e l i s t the

s i t e . That's when we take the s i t e permanently o f f of

the National P r i o r i t y L i s t . And i t w i l l be completely

p r o t e c t i v e of human health and the environment. I t ' s a

long process. There's no s p e c i f i c timeframe f o r the

d e l i s t i n g .

So t h i s s i t e , s p e c i f i c a l l y , t h i s i s what

we're looking at here: We've got s i x operable u n i t s .

1, 2, and 3, which we're dis c u s s i n g today, are

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r e s i d e n t i a l s o i l s . They're div i d e d s p e c i f i c a l l y .

We've got two here: They are Operable Unit

Luebbers and Operable Unit Stewart. Those are people

that t r a n s f e r r e d contaminated m a t e r i a l . They provided

the l i s t and we've gone and checked a l l those homes, so

we s p e c i f i c a l l y know that they belong to that person.

There are more homes i n Operable Unit 1.

We know that material was moved i n people's yards or

i t ' s s i t t i n g i n the r i v e r , but there's no c l e a r

i n d i c a t i o n of where i t came from. So a l l the other

yards lead to there.

Operable Unit 4 i s the r i v e r and f l o o d p l a i n

i t s e l f ; so anything n o n r e s i d e n t i a l that f a l l s i n t o the

r i v e r and f l o o d p l a i n . So farms, f o r example, commercial

operations that may be going on, or ju s t large l o t s of

land that somebody i s l i v i n g on that may not be

categorized as r e s i d e n t i a l , that would be Operable Unit

4.

A d d i t i o n a l property i s the home up to the

acreage surrounding the home. Well, I know a couple of

you guys have maybe 2 0-acre properties, which i s the

acreage around the property. The rest would be

considered n o n r e s i d e n t i a l . I t would be parks, schools,

multi-home dwellings, condos. A l l of that would be

considered r e s i d e n t i a l .

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Operable Unit 5 -- I should step back here.

I t ' s the r i v e r , the f l o o d p l a i n . I t ' s also the r a i l

l i n e s that were b u i l t i n the county out of chat. That

i s something we're going to have to look at. Some of

these r a i l s have been -- they're decommissioned, they're

not running, but they've s t i l l got that chat r i s k .

There's actual mine areas themselves. So

there's a couple p i l e s i n the southwestern quadrant, but

there's lead associated with that. But we're going to

look at that i n the future, too.

But, again, t h i s i s j u s t the r e s i d e n t i a l ,

so that's excluded i n t h i s plan.

We've got groundwater w e l l s . We've got

approximately 75 or 76 contaminated w e l l s , minor lead or

other metals that exceed safe l i m i t s . So those

residents are being provided the opportunity f o r

a l t e r n a t i v e water i f they want i f that contamination

reaches a cap.

Operable Unit 6, that's a mine area.

H i s t o r i c a l l y , that's V a l l e s Mines. I t ' s 4,500 acres.

I t ' s very d i s c r e t e . So i t ' s i t s own un i t that we're

going to be taking care of. But that's not f o r t h i s

proposed plan.

H i s t o r i c a l l y , these are some of the

a c t i v i t i e s that were conducted. MDNR conducted a s i t e

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Study at the V a l l e s Mines. Those are some of the very

e a r l y f i n d i n g s . There was an o l d smelter there with

some contamination around i t . That report i s also

a v a i l a b l e i n the administrative record.

In March of 2007, the EPA conducted a s i t e

screening assessment. There was a c h i l d with elevated

blood lead. So our removal program came i n to take a

look, found contamination i n some of these yards. So we

star t e d a s i t e screening assessment i n 2007.

We st a r t e d the f u l l - o n s o i l screening and

well sampling during the 2007 to 2008 time periods.

That's when we r e a l l y kicked i t o f f and the removal

programs were r e a l l y heavy i n g e t t i n g s t u f f looked at.

Then we decided to take a site-wide

i n v e s t i g a t i o n . So we st a r t e d to look at the e n t i r e

s i t e , which would have been those two neighborhoods. So

we went to a site-wide strategy.

2009, September, we l i s t e d the s i t e on the

NPL through those studies that we talked about a couple

of s l i d e s ago. In A p r i l of 2010, we st a r t e d the

remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n , f e a s a b i l i t y study. That's 1, 2,

3; and 5 i s not l i s t e d .

The groundwater f e a s i b i l i t y study i s on

hold r i g h t now, and we're waiting on some of those

studies.

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June 2010, U.S. F i s h and W i l d l i f e completed

a f l o o d p l a i n and sediment study. We have a group

here -- I know that a couple of people attended those

that reported widespread contamination i n the Big River

and Big River f l o o d p l a i n . That's moved us much fu r t h e r

north.

We're looking at the properties that are

e l i g i b l e f o r sampling that we're going to t r y to get

ahold of. We sent those mailings out l a s t week. We're

planning on s t a r t i n g those w i t h i n three weeks.

May of 2012, the Rl/FSs were completed

i n i t i a l l y . We're done with those. We have some ongoing

studies going on f o r the s i t e s .

USGS, the U.S. Geological Service, has

awarded a grant. They're looking at suspended sediment

flow. So some of these yards are along the f l o o d p l a i n .

We don't have a f u l l grasp on how much lead i s contained

going down the r i v e r . We're going to look at to see how

much lead i s s t i l l there i n the yards a f t e r the study.

We're conducting r i g h t now PRP searches,

p o t e n t i a l responsible party searches, to f i n d out who i s

responsible f o r these clean-ups. They have some names

on there. So, c l e a r l y , there's some idea of who d i d

that.

But the responsible party p o r t i o n i s j u s t

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to know who they are, that they're a v a i l a b l e . There's

always p o t e n t i a l f o r a future cost recovery f o r people

that are transporting t h i s s t u f f . We'll be completing

those i n the f a l l of 2012.

We sta r t e d an e c o l o g i c a l r i s k assessment i n

January of 2 012 f o r Operable Unit 4. That's looking at

the e c o l o g i c a l r i s k . The human health r i s k i s s l a t e d to

begin s h o r t l y . We'll be looking at the human r i s k of

the r i v e r i t s e l f . ^

We're s t i l l sampling properties to t h i s

day. The removal program, w e ' l l s t i l l take people that

need to be sampled. We sampled eight properties l a s t

week f o r people that s a i d that they wanted sampling. So

we're always a v a i l a b l e to do that i f you know anybody or

i f you need your own sample.

During the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n , we

completed a human health r i s k assessment saying what the

r i s k of t h i s lead a c t u a l l y i s to human beings; not j u s t

saying i t ' s there, but what r i s k i t imposes. That was

done simultaneously.

That was located at the properties we done

during the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n . Part of that was

IVBA sampling, b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y sampling that was done.

It looks at the lead i t s e l f and sees how much of that

can a c t u a l l y get absorbed i n the blood system.

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For example, i f you eat a pure piece of

lead, you probably wouldn't f e e l much of that. But i f

you ground a l l that up i n a form that was oxi d i z e d , i t

makes i t a l o t more bad.

And that's how we found these r i s k s , from

that exposure to the imported mine waste and

contaminated s o i l s . So i t came down the r i v e r ; people

picked i t up i n t h e i r yards.

We determined our clean-up goals. Our

numbers were based on the b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y . That's what

we base our clean-up numbers on.

We develop pre l i m i n a r y remediation goals,

which are concentration l i m i t s to protect human health.

They are lead and arsenic and chromium i n the s i t e . 232

we have b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y data f o r . Four had arsenic that

exceeded our goal. Chromium was on one property and i t

was also associated with lead.

The arsenic was 22 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n ; the

chromium was 2 9 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n ; and the lead was 400

p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . So, again, those were c o l l o c a t e d

with the lead i n every property I've seen so f a r . We're

going to continue to sample portions of pro p e r t i e s , make

sure that -- i f we do f i n d i t , we can take care i t .

So our remedial a c t i o n o b j e c t i v e s , t h i s i s

what we're t r y i n g to get fi g u r e d out here, f o r

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pro t e c t i n g human health based on those clean-up numbers

that we j u s t saw.

So the number one remedial a c t i o n objective

i s to reduce exposure of young c h i l d r e n , 0 to 84 months,

to lead such that an i n d i v i d u a l c h i l d or group of

similarly-exposed c h i l d r e n have no greater than a

5-percent chance of exceeding a blood lead l e v e l of 10

ug/dl.

And the second p o r t i o n i s reduce the r i s k

of exposure to s o i l s containing arsenic and chromium

such that l e v e l s do not exceed the carcinogenic r i s k of

1 X 10 -4 and a noncancer hazard index of 1.

So that's the carcinogenic r i s k . And those

are the most p r o t e c t i v e values out there, too. So each

one has a carcinogenic r i s k , so we take the most

pr o t e c t i v e values, which was 22 to 29.

So what s i t e r i s k d i d we a c t u a l l y find?

Well, f i r s t of a l l , we've a c t u a l l y found c h i l d r e n

on-site that a c t u a l l y have elevated blood lead. That

blood lead was p a r t i a l l y being a t t r i b u t e d to the

contamination.

We're s t i l l f i n d i n g some. This i s n ' t

something that we found one 10 years ago. We do f i n d

that o c c a s i o n a l l y . We haven't done a wide blood lead

study. Part of the outreach i s we're going to t r y to

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get some more blood lead done.

The damages that are done from lead i n

c h i l d r e n are often n e u r o l o g i c a l damage, and that's

permanent. And once i t happens, i t ' s done. You can't

reverse i t .

So preventing that by reducing the

p r o b a b i l i t y i s why we come up with these numbers and why

we pick that number to reduce the future r i s k ; not j u s t

once we f i n d i t .

And then we have t h i s a d d i t i o n a l r i s k of

the representative of the PRCs that we ta l k e d . And of

the 232, a l l of those were c o l l o c a t i o n s , a very small

number. But there was very small r i s k associated.

Some a d d i t i o n a l s i t e r i s k , groundwater was

found above 15 micrograms, 15 p a r t s - p e r - b i l l i o n . So

that's a r i s k that's there that we're addressing through

removal a c t i o n r i g h t now. We'll come up with a remedial

a l t e r n a t i v e and do a proposed plan f o r that i n the

future.

So the proposal plan that y o u ' l l see, that

includes t h i s background data we're t a l k i n g about, study

r e s u l t s and the p u b l i c comment process. So how can you

comment, other than j u s t being here? By c a l l i n g or

w r i t i n g us.

-Right now we've got three a l t e r n a t i v e s f o r

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these three operable u n i t s . Each one has three

a l t e r n a t i v e s . They're ex a c t l y the same i n each one.

Each of those three have the same a l t e r n a t i v e s

i d e n t i f i e d . We've selected the same a l t e r n a t i v e f o r

each operable u n i t .

In that, i t w i l l e xplain our preferred

a l t e r n a t i v e . So i t w i l l go i n t o d e t a i l on those

c r i t e r i a and why we made the s e l e c t i o n , the RI and the

FS and several other t e c h n i c a l documents that are i n

there.

So these are our proposal a l t e r n a t i v e s .

The f i r s t one i s no actio n . There's no money. Let the

r i s k s t i l l be present i n the county.

The second one i s s o i l excavation, disposal

and replacement up to 12 inches i n r e s i d e n t i a l yards and

24 inches i n garden areas -- gardens root. There's a

l i t t l e more r i s k i n gardens coming i n and rooting -- any

properties that exceed the PRC of 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n

for lead.

In a d d i t i o n , we would sample 10 percent.

10 percent of a l l the samples would go to the laboratory

so we can make sure that these chromium and arsenic

r i s k s are s t i l l c o l l o c a t e d .

The t h i r d a l t e r n a t i v e i s also s o i l

excavation, disposal and replacement, but i t ' s up to

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24 inches i n a l l p r o p e r t i e s . So instead of a foot, we'd

go down to two feet i n each property. So i t ' s b a s i c a l l y

the same, i t ' s j u s t a matter of depth d i f f e r e n c e , i s

what we have there.

Our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e i s a l t e r n a t i v e

two. That's excavation of s o i l that are equal or

greater than 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n up to 12 inches of

excavation. I f there's anything above 4 00, we're able

to take up to 12 inches, and then the 24 inches of

garden areas I spoke about.

Any area that you guys designate f o r

clean-up that's a garden area, sometimes i t ' s not

obvious to me what i s a garden area, we would do 24-inch

removal i n those places.

At 12 inches of concentration, places that

exceed 1,200 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n , we're going to be

put t i n g a b a r r i e r down. I t ' s t y p i c a l l y an orange,

h i g h l y - v i s i b l e , h ighly-permeability mesh-like

construction fencing, or snow fencing, i f you're more

f a m i l i a r with that. That's what i t looks l i k e .

Drip zones w e ' l l be sampling, as w e l l .

That's a 30-inch area around the house. I f you f i n d

contamination over 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n , w e ' l l do a

clean-up only i f an a d d i t i o n a l area of the property i s

contaminated.

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So that i n d i c a t e s sometimes that the house

i t s e l f contains paint that i s leaded that's chipping o f f

and going i n t o the ground. This clean-up i s not f o r

that. This clean-up i s f o r imported mine waste that

came i n . So that would be a s p e c i f i c exclusion, unless

there was contamination found somewhere else on the

property.

A f t e r we're done excavating, i t would be

transported to an EPA-approved disposal f a c i l i t y . We've

been taking i t to Timber Ridge L a n d f i l l . We're s t i l l

evaluating that area. There are other a l t e r n a t i v e s to

be looked at. We may sel e c t one i f there's a cost

savings f o r the clean-up.

And then a f t e r we're done with the t o t a l

area, we've excavated i t , we've disposed of the

contaminated ma t e r i a l , we w i l l replace i t with clean

s o i l . So we w i l l use clean s o i l on t h i s , being l e s s

than 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n of lead, Missouri standards

are 260 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . We're going much lower than

that i n case of any changes to that. The lead numbers

are below that, j u s t to make sure we're being safe.

So we think there's every reason to expect

that we can f i n d that e a s i l y i n the county. We've found

several areas that are lower than 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n .

We t y p i c a l l y reseed the property. So a

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driveway would have gravel put back on i t . Grass would

be seeded and we would monitor that over a period of

time.

One of the l a s t portions w i l l be i n the

i n s t i t u t i o n a l controls that w i l l be put i n place on the

property. I f we didn't get a f u l l clean-up or we needed

to get some more information on that property, these are

a l l options. This i s n ' t everything we do on an

i n s t i t u t i o n a l c o n t r o l . I t may be a combination of a

couple of these.

The f i r s t t hing being establishment of a

r e g i s t r y of r e s i d e n t i a l properties that meet some

c r i t e r i a . We keep that w i t h i n the Je f f e r s o n County

Health Department. So we j u s t keep track of that. And

people come i n and we say, "Yeah, that was sampled.

That was good to go."

We have a l o t of p o t e n t i a l buyers that want

information l i k e that. Real estate agents are becoming

i n c r e a s i n g l y aware of the contamination of property and

they want to know whether properties do or do not have

contamination. So a r e g i s t r y l i k e that might be

valuable.

Also r e j e c t i o n . Some people don't want us

to come on t h e i r property. We need to keep track of who

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S p e c i f i c p r o p e r t i e s , those where

contamination i s l e f t i n place, which may be in-depth or

may be at the surface, some spots, some p r i z e rock

garden where you say, "Don't get near that", you s t i l l

may have contamination there. That's the kind of

property we need to continue to monitor so we can track

where that contamination i s .

People forget a f t e r a couple of years and

then they s t a r t moving s t u f f a l l over the yard and

creating a bigger hazard.

We may have some County permit options that

allow prescreening f o r lead. So there are a l o t of

people that s e l l materials, s o i l , sod, gravel, a l l sorts

of things. That's how t h i s got st a r t e d i n t h i s county.

So there's some way to prescreen that.

And then another would be through the

County i t s e l f . We're working with the County counsel on

t r y i n g to achieve -- again, e s t a b l i s h a b u i l d e r and

developer education program; how to handle i t i f they

they f i n d i t ; how to sample f o r i t .

We w i l l j u s t be l e t t i n g them know that the

Big River i s hi g h l y contaminated. They need to take a

look at i t . They become l i a b l e f o r moving that, and

that's something that these businesses need to know.

Working with the contamination i s the best

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management p r a c t i c e s f o r both the proj e c t s going on f o r

construction workers and also f o r future workers that

may be working on some of these p r o p e r t i e s . Let them

know i f they f i n d mesh i n a depth, there's contamination

there.

Otherwise, deed r e s t r i c t i o n s may be put

in t o place on some of the properties that s t i l l have

contamination, or they're not allowing us to get on

there. That's another thing.

And then environmental covenants may be put

in t o place on some these places that have contamination.

So we have covenants i n place through the State so they

can say they're aware and they're not going to move that

m a t e r i a l . Again, these are a l l options. None of these

are set yet. Or there may be a combination.

What do we have r i g h t now? Operable Unit

1, we have 800 properties estimated to clean up. We

know about 474, and we estimate that sum t o t a l w i l l be

800 pr o p e r t i e s . We're sampling --we sent access

agreements out to about 500 properties along the

f l o o d p l a i n . We're s t a r t i n g to get feedback on those.

Then there w i l l be some more i n the county.

We're going to focus on the r i v e r , the f l o o d p l a i n .

These other areas that a l l have dots, w e ' l l be doing

those on request. There's been no s p e c i f i c complaint of

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contamination.

Arnold i s very b i g suburban area. We have

no i n t e n t i o n of sampling every area i n Arnold. There's

probably four dots here that are above

400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . So we'd be doing that on s i t e s

that we believe have lead on them.

Operable Unit 2 has 16 properties l e f t f o r

remediation. That's not a guess. We have a l i s t . So

we know there's 16 more that we're going to do some kind

of work on above 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n .

Operable Unit 3, again, we have a l i s t .

That's 59 prope r t i e s . So 2 and 3 are much smaller, but

we're keeping them separate. This i s an example of an

excavation that's been conducted i n a s i s t e r s i t e i n

St. Francois County.

This i s what an excavation looks l i k e .

I t ' s about a foot deep. This i s afterwards, what the

yard looks l i k e . So we f i l l the yard back with s o i l .

We have some straw and some hydroseed here to protect

i t , l e t the grass grow.

F i n a l l y , that's a very b e a u t i f u l yard.

They don't look l i k e that at the beginning. But t h i s i s

a f t e r a couple of years. And t h i s person i s v i g i l a n t i n

maintaining t h e i r growth.

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i n having some good yards l i k e that. But i t ' s the

r e s p o n s i b i l i t y not only of us to get t h i s s t u f f put i n

place, but the homeowner to take care of that once i t ' s

put i n t o implementation. They have to water i t , and

i t ' s a young yard and i t takes a while to grow. So

that's what we're looking at f o r t h i s .

The comments period i s J u l y 5th to

August 12th, This i s where you can send the comments

to. There's a phone number there. She has an e-mail

address that i s always a c c e s s i b l e . So you can send an

e-mail to her. She sends i t to me immediately, so I ' l l

have them p r e t t y quick.

These are the websites associated with the

p r o j e c t s . That's probably very d i f f i c u l t to read.

Those are i n the handouts. You can go onto that website

and look at any of t h i s s t u f f . And I'm done, so I w i l l

take -- I'm going to leave t h i s r i g h t now.

I'm going to take questions. Can you stand

up and say your name?

MR. SMITH: I t ' s j u s t c l a r i f i c a t i o n on the

date. You say i t changed from August 12 to August 19th?

MR. LAW: The date f o r comment?

MR. SMITH: Yes.

MR. LAW: No, from J u l y 5th.

MR. SMITH: I thought you s a i d i t changed

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because of the holiday.

MR. LAW: We didn't get i t i n t o the paper,

so i t was a week l a t e g e t t i n g i t i n t o the paper. We

wanted to give people an extra week. August 12th,

that's a week past the 5th.

MR. GUNN: Thanks, Preston, f o r the

presentation.

Now we're at the p u b l i c comment po r t i o n of

the meeting, and I'd l i k e to take questions. We'll have

a court reporter that w i l l record the presentation and

w i l l record your questions and w e ' l l t r y to answer i f we

can. I t w i l l be part of the record. I t w i l l be

answered o f f i c i a l l y as part of the record.

But Preston mentioned the record d e c i s i o n

i s the document proposing what we're proposing to do.

And the dec i s i o n , attached to i t i s a response to a l l of

the questions and has an answer associated with those

questions. And that's part of the record and part of

the Record of Decision.

So with that, I would l i k e you to state

your name so the court reporter can get i t and then ask

your questions. So go ahead.

MS. STRAND: My name i s Barb Strand. I

l i v e at 45 Coles Lake. They brought a load of t o p s o i l

i n i n 1999. I t was since tested. I was t o l d i t was

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safe. I now have a three-year-old l i v i n g with me. I

l i v e on the water. What happens when that s t u f f goes

down the h i l l s ?

Some lawns have been removed at Coles Lake.

I was t o l d that several people i n my immediate area

might be contaminated. So, again, what i s happening to

the water? Can I swim i n i t ? Can I f i s h ? What w i l l

happen to my three-year-old granddaughter? She l i k e s to

dig i n the s o i l .

What i f those numbers change; that what

they decide i s okay today i s not okay ten years down the

road? What do I t e l l my three-year-old? I'm not t r y i n g

to be hard.

I do know Bob Luebbers, and I know he d i d

not i n t e n t i o n a l l y bring t a i n t e d s o i l . I've known him

over 3 0 years.

MR. LAW: That was a long question. You

said he d i d not do t h i s i n t e n t i o n a l l y . We don't claim

that he d i d . We haven't taken any ac t i o n against him

other than to n o t i f y him that he hauled contaminated

material and n o t i f i e d him that i n the future he needs to

test i t . You say you --

MS. STRAND: Bob Luebbers used to l i v e

there. He also brought chat to my home i n the driveway.

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been tested, any area you want, we can t e s t that. I ' l l

go through a f t e r the meeting and I ' l l take your

information down, your name, address, number so I can

make sure I have i t .

We're going to be out here f o r three weeks.

For the lake p o r t i o n of the community, you have a lake,

so you probably have several backyards coming up from

the lake.

We haven't done the lakes themselves yet.

That's something that w i l l need to be addressed f o r any

of these neighborhoods that had massive amounts of s o i l

brought i n that may be contaminated. So we can look

in t o those i n the future.

So i f the person's property i s a l l the way

up to the lake, we need to get access from each person.

We can't j u s t go i n t h e i r backyard and s t a r t sampling

without at l e a s t g e t t i n g permission.

As f a r as the community refusing access,

we're going to t r y to get access. We're s t a r t i n g to go

door-to-door. Sometimes face-to-face, rather than

through mail, sometimes works better. We already do

that.

And then what else?

MR. GUNN: Future clean-up l e v e l s .

MR. LAW: That's a very good question. CDC

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does have a proposal that i t ' s lowered than 10

micrograms per d e c i l i t e r . There's a recommendation of 5

micrograms per d e c i l i t e r , which would lower the clean-up

l e v e l . We haven't evaluated that yet. So we haven't

cut that i n h a l f because i t ' s going to a f f e c t the way we

do our modeling.

So t h i s i s a l l done on p r o b a b i l i t y

modeling, so we're s t i l l evaluating that. The EPA has

not come out with an evaluation model f o r that. That's

one reason we're using that 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n clean

s o i l .

So by any standard, i t ' s not going to go

that low. So that's near back ground i n Je f f e r s o n

County. So once we approach back ground, we're not

going to clean up back ground i n the whole county.

That's not part of the mission.

I can never promise anything i n the f a r

future. Sometimes clean-up goals j u s t change and I have

no c o n t r o l over that. So I can't make any promises that

they w i l l never change. We are aware of these other

recommendations.

One way we're planning on r e a l l y addressing

i t , though, i s through p u b l i c outreach and education.

We've got programs. We're going to t r y to set up part

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that we're going to t r y to get set up to do t h i s p u b l i c

outreach.

And that's informing parents how they

should clean t h e i r k i d s ' shoes, blood screening, a l l

these sorts of things to help prevent these exposures.

No lead i s safe i n a c h i l d ' s blood.

We're t r y i n g to make the best reduction we

can using these clean-up goals.

MR. GUNN: You had one more question which

was the m o b i l i t y of t h i s material from one yard to

another and that kind of thing.

We found generally that that's not the

case; that i t doesn't n e c e s s a r i l y -- i f there's good

vegetation, i t ' s p r e t t y well-balanced s o i l . So i f the

s o i l i s not moving i n any b i g way o f f of the property,

there's probably not a l o t of runoff.

On the issue of the blood lead l e v e l

dropping, the model we're using now i s a p r o b a b i l i s t i c

model. We do clean-up based on the quadrants. So the

model c u r r e n t l y protects to an average blood lead l e v e l

of a 5. We go a l i t t l e extra and do 95 percent.

B a s i c a l l y , i t ' s below 10.

And so that's an average. The actual blood

lead l e v e l i s below 5. We're not sure how,we're going

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There's about 16,000 yards that have been

remediated.

John, you had your hand up e a r l i e r ?

MR. SMITH: I t was more on the date. I f I

may ask her: Has your granddaughter been to the

p e d i a t r i c i a n ? Have they done any testing?

MS. STRAND: Yes. So f a r , she's good.

MR. GUNN: And we would recommend that of

anybody. I f you're concerned, have your c h i l d tested,

blood lead t e s t i n g . I t sounds l i k e the county i s ready

to do i t .

Other questions?

MR. HENDRICKS: My name i s Neal Hendricks.

I have a farm. My question i s t h i s : I have a farm, and

my lower farms are i n the lower f l o o d p l a i n . T h e y ' l l be

-- u n t i l t h i s clean-out, a l l those t a i l i n g s are down

r i v e r from me, so there's nothing you can do with that;

r i g h t ?

MR. GUNN: I t ' s a d i f f i c u l t problem. We're

i n St. Francois County.

MR. HENDRICKS: But those t a i l i n g p i l e s are

s t i l l down there.

MR. GUNN: There are some t a i l i n g p i l e s

that are down there. But most of them are federal and

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MR. HENDRICKS: The r i v e r i s contaminated;

i s that correct?

MR. GUNN: That i s cor r e c t .

MR. HENDRICKS: So any kids p l a y i n g i n the

sand and gravel could get contaminated; i s that true?

MR. GUNN: That i s correct. I t i s a r i s k

and i t i s one of the future operable u n i t s .

MR. HENDRICKS: But you're not doing

anything with that u n t i l you clean up a l l t h i s t a i l i n g

crap?

MR. GUNN: Yes, s i r .

MR. HENDRICKS: I ' l l be dead by then.

MR. LAW: The r i s k that you were j u s t

t a l k i n g about to these yards, that's a more-limited area

than r e s i d e n t i a l yards.

MR. WARD: My name i s Jim Ward. I l i v e on

Riverview, which i s o f f of Ware Lake i n Brown's Ford.

We j u s t r e c e n t l y moved down and we closed on a property

yet i n March. And we were t o l d by neighbors that

previous owners refused to have the s o i l and the water

tested. And I ju s t want to know how we go about g e t t i n g

that tested.

MR. LAW: You can t e l l me r i g h t a f t e r t h i s

meeting -- I ' l l take your information down and I ' l l

schedule you f o r t e s t i n g . I t ' s a p r e t t y easy process.

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If you have a groundwater w e l l , I ' l l t e s t that. I'm

happy to do that.

MR. GUNN: Any other questions?

MR. EHLEN: My name i s Chris Ehlen. I l i v e

on A l b e r t Road i n De Soto. And, you know, you mentioned

about -- or the other guy about sand and gravel

contamination.

I have three c h i l d r e n that l i v e with me who

are on the r i v e r . And, you know, i t ' s common p r a c t i c e ,

we play down at the r i v e r . And I have a rather large

sand and a gravel bar upwards of two acres. And

that's -- you know, we do a l o t of hanging out there.

And 90 percent of my property i s i n the f l o o d p l a i n .

So you mentioned -- I t a l k e d to you on the

phone e a r l i e r today and you had mentioned how t h i s focus

i s only one acre around the house f o r t h i s i n i t i a l

clean-up. But greater than 50 percent of the clean-up

where c h i l d r e n play on the property i s not i n that area.

So i s that a s p e c i a l s i t u a t i o n that you

consider, or i s that part of a future thing?

MR, LAW: Yes, So i f you have areas that

are outside the p r o v i s i o n a l acreage, w e ' l l s t i l l take a

look at them, I've seen that i n several properties

along the f l o o d p l a i n , where the house i s more than an

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a -- there's a rope that kids swing i n t o the r i v e r ,

things l i k e that. We'll d e f i n i t e l y take a look. Those

are some of the highest p r i o r i t y areas we have.

The clean-up strategy that close to the

r i v e r , however, we're going to have to fi g u r e out how to

do those clean-ups by not crea t i n g more hazard by

erosion. So i t w i l l be a strategy that we're going to

implement during the design phase. But we're happy to

sample i t .

I f there's a gravel bar out by the r i v e r

close to your property, we can probably take samples of

that, too.

I don't want to give you the impression

that every gravel bar i s super-contaminated. Some are

f i n e . But we need to take each one as i t comes and

sample i t . I'd be happy to go out and sample your

gravel bar. I f i t ' s highly-contaminated, then w e ' l l

s t a r t t a l k i n g about a strategy.

MR. GUNN: Primary route of exposure i s

ingestion. So clean hands and whatnot.

MR. EHLEN: Yeah. We already do that now

because we're aware of i t .

MR. GUNN: And then blood lead t e s t i n g

would be another option.

MR. LAW: Are there any other questions?

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MR. GUNN: Thank you a l l very much.

(The meeting was adjourned at 7:26

p.m.)

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July 17, 2012 Index: 10..deciliter

10 32:1 23:22

100 32:10

12th 29:4

16,000 34 : 1

1999 29:25

30 30:16

45 29:24

5 32 :2 33:21,24

50 36:17

5th 29:5

7:26 38:3

90 36:13

95 33:21

access

31 : 15,18,

19

acre 36:16,25

acreage

36 : 22

acres 36 : 11

action 30:19

actual 33 :23

address 31: 3

addressed 31 : 10

addressing

32 : 22

adj ourned 38 : 3

affect 32 : 5

ahead 29 : 22

Albert 36 : 5

amounts 31 : 11

approach 32 : 14

area 30:5, 25 31:1 35 : 14

36 : 18

areas 36 :21 37 : 3

attached 29 : 16

August 29:4

average 33:20,23

aware 32 :20 37:22

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back 32:13,14, 15

backyard

31 : 16

backyards 31:7

bar 36:11 37 :10,14, 17

Barb 29:23

based 33 :19

Basically

33 :22

b i g 33:15

blood

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Bob 30:14,

23

bottom

36 :25

bring 30 :15

brought 30 :24 31: 12

Brown's 35 :17

case 33:13

CDC 31:25

change 30 : 10

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chat 30:24

c h i l d 34:9

child's 33 :6

children

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C h r i s 36:4

claim 30 : 18

clean 32:10,15 33:4 35:9 37 : 20

clean-out 34 : 16

clean-up 31:24 32:3,18 33 :8,19

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clean-ups 33 : 25 37 :6

close 37:4,11

closed

35 : 18

Coles

29 :24

30:4

comment

29:8

common

36 : 9

community 31:6,18

concerned 34 : 9

contaminated

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contaminatioijL 36 : 7

control 32 : 19

correct 35:2,3,6

county 32:14,15 34 : 10,20

court

29:10,21

crap 35:10

creating 37:6

c u t 32:5

date 34:4

De 36:5

dead 35:12

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d e c i s i o n

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d i f f i c u l t

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d i g 30:9

document 29 : 15

door-to-door

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driveway 30 :24

dr o p p i n g 33 : 18

e a r l i e r

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easy 35:25

e d u c a t i o n 32 : 23

Eh l e n 36:4

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EPA 32:8

equipment

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e r o s i o n 37 : 7

e v a l u a t e d 32 :4

e v a l u a t i n g

32 : 8

e v a l u a t i o n

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exposure 37 :19

exposures 33 : 5

e x t r a 29:4 33 :21

f a c e - t o - f a c e

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farm 34:14

farms 34 : 15

f e d e r a l 34 : 24

f i g u r e 37:5

f i n e 37:15

f i s h 30:7

f l o o d p l a i n

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focus

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Ford 35:17

found 33 :12

F r a n c o i s 34 :20

f u t u r e 30:21 31:13,24 32 :18 35 : 7

36 :20

g e n e r a l l y 33 : 12

g i v e 29:4 37 : 13

g o a l s 32 : 18

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good 31:25 33 :13 34 : 7

granddaughter

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g r e a t e r

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groundwater 36 :1

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i n i t i a l 36 : 16

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i s s u e 33 : 17

hand 34:3

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hanging

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happen

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happy 36:2

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ha u l e d 3 0:20

ha z a r d 37 :6

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h i g h e s t 37 : 3

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John 34:3

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l a r g e

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LAW 2 9 : 2

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l e v e l 32:4 33:17,20, 24

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l i k e s 30:8

l i v e 29:24 30:2,23

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l i v i n g

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l o n g 30:17

l o t 33:16 36 : 12

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m a t e r i a l 30:21 33 : 10

meeting

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micrograms 32:2, 3

m i s s i o n

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m o b i l i t y 33 : 10

model 32:9 33:18,19, 20

modeling

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moving

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Neal 34:13

n e c e s s a r i l y

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neighborhoods

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neig h b o r s 35 : 19

n o t i f i e d 30:21

n o t i f y 30:20

number

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o p e r a b l e 35 : 7

o p t i o n 37 :24

o u t r e a c h 32:23,25 33:2

owners 35:20

p.m. 38:4

paper 29:2,3

p a r e n t s

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p a s t 29:5

p e d i a t r i c i a n

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people 29:4 30:5

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person

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person's

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phone 36 : 15

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p l a n n i n g

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p l a y 36:10,18, 25

p l a y i n g 35:4

p o r t i o n

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p r a c t i c e 36 : 9

prev e n t 33 : 5

p r e v i o u s

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Primary 37 :19

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p r o b a b i l i t y 32 : 7

problem

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programs 32 :24

promise

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promises 32 : 19

p r o p e r t i e s

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p r o p o s a l 32 :1

p r e s e n t a t i o n p r o p o s i n g

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Preston 29:6,14

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p u b l i c 29 : 8

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quadrants 33 : 19

q u e s t i o n 30 : 17 31:25

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q u e s t i o n s 29:9,11, 17,18,22 34 : 12

36 : 3 37 : 25

ready 34 : 10

reason

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r e c e n t l y 35 : 18

recommend 34 : 8

r e d u c t i o n 33 : 7

r e f u s e d 35 : 20

r e f u s i n g 31 : 18

remediated 34 : 2

removed 30:4

r e p o r t e r 29:10,21

r e s i d e n t i a l

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response 29 : 16

r i s k 13

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R i v e r v i e w

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road 30:12

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rope 3 7:1

r o u t e 37 : 19

r u n o f f 33 : 16

recommendation 32:2

recommendations-32:21

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s a f e 30:1 33 :6

sample 37:9,16

samples 37 :11

sampling

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sand 35:5 36 :6,11

schedule 35:25

s c r e e n i n g 33:4

s e t 32:24

33 :1

shoes 33:4

s i r 35:11

s i t u a t i o n 36 :19

SMITH 34:4

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