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2015 Public Finance Debate Series
TODAY’S POLICY SETTINGS UNFAIRLY FAVOUR THE BABY
BOOMER GENERATION
20 APRIL 2015
FOR THE MOTION
Ms Becky Prebble
Age structure of NZ population
Source: Statistics NZ
Age structure of NZ population
Source: Statistics NZ
House prices over 40 years
Source: Productivity Commission
House prices over 40 years
Source: Productivity Commission
Ratio of tax to GDP over 40 years
Source: The Treasury
Ratio of tax to GDP over 40 years
Source: The Treasury
Unemployment rate - % of labour force
0
2
4
6
8
10
12Mar-65
Jul-66
Nov-67
Mar-69
Jul-70
Nov-71
Mar-73
Jul-74
Nov-75
Mar-77
Jul-78
Nov-79
Mar-81
Jul-82
Nov-83
Mar-85
Jul-86
Nov-87
Mar-89
Jul-90
Nov-91
Mar-93
Jul-94
Nov-95
Mar-97
Jul-98
Nov-99
Mar-01
Jul-02
Nov-03
Mar-05
Jul-06
Nov-07
Mar-09
Jul-10
Nov-11
Mar-13
Jul-14
Unemployment rate - % of labour force
0
2
4
6
8
10
12Mar-65
Jul-66
Nov-67
Mar-69
Jul-70
Nov-71
Mar-73
Jul-74
Nov-75
Mar-77
Jul-78
Nov-79
Mar-81
Jul-82
Nov-83
Mar-85
Jul-86
Nov-87
Mar-89
Jul-90
Nov-91
Mar-93
Jul-94
Nov-95
Mar-97
Jul-98
Nov-99
Mar-01
Jul-02
Nov-03
Mar-05
Jul-06
Nov-07
Mar-09
Jul-10
Nov-11
Mar-13
Jul-14
Sample tertiary qualifications
• Bachelor of Sport and Recreation
• Bachelor of International Hospitality Management
• Bachelor of Culinary Arts
• Certificate in Commercial Floristry
• Certificate in Construction Skills
• National Certificate in Health, Disability, and Aged
Support
AGAINST THE MOTION
Dr Simon Chapple
Baby boomer fiscal smash ‘n grab on Millennials
• Baby boomers will benefit from generous pensions and
rising old-age health spending
• They will not pay sufficient life-time taxes to fully fund
them
• The Millennial generation is smaller in size
• They will not generate sufficient pay-as-you-go funding
for these boomer commitments
• Taxing Millennials to cover the funding gap is unfair
• It raids their well-being to maintain that of Baby boomers
“It’s déjà vu all over again!” Ongoing memes of inter-generational fiscal conflict
David Thomson, Selfish Generations, 1991:
“Baby boomers, you’re being ripped off by the1920-
1945 generation”
David Willets, The Pinch, 2010:
“Millennials, you’re being ripped off by Baby
boomers”
Baby Boomers versus Millennials: New Zealand’s total fertility rate, 1921-2014
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
3.5
4.0
4.5
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21
19
23
19
25
1927
19
29
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31
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33
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35
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37
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39
1941
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45
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1955
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65
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1969
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77
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81
1983
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85
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91
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1997
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01
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09
2011
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13
Baby boomers and Millennials are fictions
• Egregious or necessary fiction?
• Generations are much more continuous than discrete binaries
• Policy shifts to be fair to binary generations necessarily create
unfairness within these binaries
• Variation in exposures and experiences within generations
spanning 20+ years may be greater than between generations
And it is not all about generational conflict….
• Generations are not simply linked by fiscal rules and
inter-generational fiscal conflict
• Unpaid work by parents, in-family transfers, gifts and
bequests between generations all matter
• The pass-on of broader social and physical environments
are also generational links
But let’s have fun and run with the generational
fiction….
Ultimately, policy goals are about well-being
Two questions:
• Is average well-being of Millennials systematically higher (or lower) than that of
Baby boomers?
• If yes (or no) are the between-generation patterns of well-being unfair?
Fiscal redistribution is but one contributor to inter-generational differences in well-
being and thus only one factor in assessing policy fairness
How do well-being advantages and disadvantages stack up across the two generational fictions?
Baby boomers…. The Good
• The ability to play, free of high levels of parental control
• Universal but modest and declining child cash benefits
• Low cost higher education
• Easy to find, relatively well-paid jobs on labour market entry
• Easy to buy a first house and make capital gains
• Brilliant new music
Baby boomers….the Bad
• Loads of siblings, low parental time investment
• Crowded schools, large class sizes
• Rubbish cooking
• Left home & school early
• Less chance of getting a higher education
• Inherit less from their parents, as sharing between lots of siblings
• Economic shocks, mid-1970s to early 1990s
• Worried sick about nuclear annihilation
Baby boomers…. the downright ugly
• Faced higher levels of violence in homes & schools, fewer rights as
children
• It was more legitimate to discriminate on the basis of gender, ethnicity and
sexual orientation
• Lived in a society which stigmatised and hid mental illness
• Were governed by a repressive patriarchal gerontocracy
• Widespread, unpunished fashion crimes: Flared trousers & mullets
Millennials….the Good
• Taller: Better health during childhood
• Live longer
• Higher parental time investments
• Living longer with parents
• Smaller class sizes
• Better chance of higher education
• Higher living standards
• Will inherit more than their parents, as fewer siblings
• Easier for their parents to provide for grandchildren’s childcare
• Face less racism, sexism, everyday violence, bullying
• Better acceptance of mental illness
• Awesome new electronic gizmos & whatsits
• Are taken more seriously by their elders
Millennials….the Bad
• As children, less freedom from adults
• Fatter
• Pay more for higher education
• A tougher labour market entry
• Harder to buy a first house
• Face retiring at an older age
• May pay higher average tax rates
• Fewer siblings to help with care of ageing parents
• Are worried sick about global warming
Millennials….the Downright Ugly
• Terrible music
• Rubbish reality TV
• Internet trolling
• Unpunished fashion crimes include ear lobe
stretching & bearded hipsters in ironical hats
A thought experiment on inter-generational policy fairness
Given a choice, would your well-being be better by:
• Being reincarnated as a Baby boomer?
• Or as a Millennial?
A thought experiment, contd
• Would “unfair to Millennials” fiscal policy settings influence your
choice towards becoming a Baby Boomer?
• How important would any socio-demographic characteristics
be in your choice (e.g. your gender, ethnicity, intelligence,
sexuality, family background or physical or mental health
status), compared with a purely random chance of being
reincarnated as any Boomer or Millennial?
Personal views
• If selection were random, I’d chose being Millennial
• The previous generation both gives and takes. Arguably it has, overall,
given more than taken. And that’s a good thing
• Consequently, policy settings do not obviously unfairly favour Boomers
• A possible future rise in my average Millennial tax rate of (at the most) say
5-10 percentage points, lasting for 20 odd years to pay Boomer pensions
is a minor issue of a particular well-being input
Personal views, contd
• For reasons other than Boomer versus Millennial fairness, I
favour raising the age of pension eligibility for Boomers to 67
and indexing it to life expectancy
• Global warming is a more serious negative collective legacy for
future generations (not just Millennials) by past generations
(including Boomers and Millennials, amongst others)
Thank you for attending.
Debate two: Economic evidence should play a greater role in health policy evaluation
20 May 2015, 3.00-4.00pm