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Page 1: The width of a finite simple group - Nick Gill · 2020-04-27 · The width of a nite simple group Nick Gill (OU) Simple groups of Lie type Let A be a subset of G = G r(q). How does

The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

The width of a finite simple group

Nick Gill (OU)

September 4, 2012

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Growth

Let A be a finite subset of a group G .

DefineA2 = A · A := {a1 · a2 | a1, a2 ∈ A}.

We are interested in studying the size of A2,A3,A4, . . . we callthis the study of the growth of A.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Growth

Let A be a finite subset of a group G .Define

A2 = A · A := {a1 · a2 | a1, a2 ∈ A}.

We are interested in studying the size of A2,A3,A4, . . . we callthis the study of the growth of A.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Growth

Let A be a finite subset of a group G .Define

A2 = A · A := {a1 · a2 | a1, a2 ∈ A}.

We are interested in studying the size of A2,A3,A4, . . . we callthis the study of the growth of A.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Doubling and tripling

Suppose first that G is abelian (the classical setting for additivecombinatorics).

If |AA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K `|A| [P-R].

Now drop the condition that G is abelian.

If |AAA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K 2`−5|A| [H-T].

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Doubling and tripling

Suppose first that G is abelian (the classical setting for additivecombinatorics).

If |AA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K `|A| [P-R].

Now drop the condition that G is abelian.

If |AAA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K 2`−5|A| [H-T].

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Doubling and tripling

Suppose first that G is abelian (the classical setting for additivecombinatorics).

If |AA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K `|A| [P-R].

Now drop the condition that G is abelian.

If |AAA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K 2`−5|A| [H-T].

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Doubling and tripling

Suppose first that G is abelian (the classical setting for additivecombinatorics).

If |AA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K `|A| [P-R].

Now drop the condition that G is abelian.

If |AAA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K 2`−5|A| [H-T].

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Doubling and tripling

Suppose first that G is abelian (the classical setting for additivecombinatorics).

If |AA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K `|A| [P-R].

Now drop the condition that G is abelian.

If |AAA| ≤ K |A| then |A`| ≤ K 2`−5|A| [H-T].

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Simple groups of Lie type

Let A be a subset of G = Gr (q). How does the set A grow?This question is partially answered, with a strong value of K ,by a theorem of Pyber-Szabo, Breuillard-Green-Tao building onwork of Helfgott, Dinai, Helfgott-G.

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists a positive number ε such that for anygenerating set A in Gr (q) either

|AAA| ≥ |A|1+ε, or

AAA = G .

Applications are manifold: diameter bounds, expansion,sieving...

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Simple groups of Lie type

Let A be a subset of G = Gr (q). How does the set A grow?This question is partially answered, with a strong value of K ,by a theorem of Pyber-Szabo, Breuillard-Green-Tao building onwork of Helfgott, Dinai, Helfgott-G.

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists a positive number ε such that for anygenerating set A in Gr (q) either

|AAA| ≥ |A|1+ε, or

AAA = G .

Applications are manifold: diameter bounds, expansion,sieving...

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Simple groups of Lie type

Let A be a subset of G = Gr (q). How does the set A grow?This question is partially answered, with a strong value of K ,by a theorem of Pyber-Szabo, Breuillard-Green-Tao building onwork of Helfgott, Dinai, Helfgott-G.

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists a positive number ε such that for anygenerating set A in Gr (q) either

|AAA| ≥ |A|1+ε, or

AAA = G .

Applications are manifold: diameter bounds, expansion,sieving...

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Dependence on the rank [P-S]

Let A be a generating set of SLn(q) containing:

1 T , the set of diagonal matrices; |T | = (q − 1)n−1;

2 a, b, two elements generating this copy of SL2(q):A 0 · · · 00 1 0...

. . .

0 0 1

3 The following n-cycle monomial matrix s

a. . .

cd

Now A3 6= G and, if q = 3, |A3| ≤ 17 · |A| < |A|1+ 5

n−1 .

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Dependence on the rank [P-S]

Let A be a generating set of SLn(q) containing:

1 T , the set of diagonal matrices; |T | = (q − 1)n−1;

2 a, b, two elements generating this copy of SL2(q):A 0 · · · 00 1 0...

. . .

0 0 1

3 The following n-cycle monomial matrix s

a. . .

cd

Now A3 6= G and, if q = 3, |A3| ≤ 17 · |A| < |A|1+ 5

n−1 .

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Dependence on the rank [P-S]

Let A be a generating set of SLn(q) containing:

1 T , the set of diagonal matrices; |T | = (q − 1)n−1;

2 a, b, two elements generating this copy of SL2(q):A 0 · · · 00 1 0...

. . .

0 0 1

3 The following n-cycle monomial matrix sa

. . .

cd

Now A3 6= G and, if q = 3, |A3| ≤ 17 · |A| < |A|1+ 5

n−1 .

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Dependence on the rank [P-S]

Let A be a generating set of SLn(q) containing:

1 T , the set of diagonal matrices; |T | = (q − 1)n−1;

2 a, b, two elements generating this copy of SL2(q):A 0 · · · 00 1 0...

. . .

0 0 1

3 The following n-cycle monomial matrix s

a. . .

cd

Now A3 6= G and, if q = 3, |A3| ≤ 17 · |A| < |A|1+ 5n−1 .

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Dependence on the rank [P-S]

Let A be a generating set of SLn(q) containing:

1 T , the set of diagonal matrices; |T | = (q − 1)n−1;

2 a, b, two elements generating this copy of SL2(q):A 0 · · · 00 1 0...

. . .

0 0 1

3 The following n-cycle monomial matrix s

a. . .

cd

Now A3 6= G and, if q = 3, |A3| ≤ 17 · |A| < |A|1+ 5

n−1 .

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Babai’s conjecture

Let G be a finite simple group and A a generating set in G .Note that

1 A` = G for some integer ` (take it as small as possible).

2 ` ≥ log |G |log |A|

3 ` ≥ log |G | if |A| = 2.

Conjecture (Babai)

There exists c > 0 such that, for any finite simple group G andany generating set A ⊂ G , A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Babai’s conjecture is often stated in terms of the diameter ofthe Cayley graph.

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The width ofa finite simple

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A partial proof of Babai’s conjecture

Corollary

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that for any generating setA in G = Gr (q) we have A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Proof.

1 The product theorem implies that either |A3| ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

2 Iterating we obtain that either |A3k | ≥ |A|(1+ε)k or

A3k = G .

3 If |A|(1+ε)k ≥ |G | we must have A3k = G .

4 Thus A` = G where ` = (log |G |)dlog1+ε 3e+1.

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The width ofa finite simple

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A partial proof of Babai’s conjecture

Corollary

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that for any generating setA in G = Gr (q) we have A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Proof.

1 The product theorem implies that either |A3| ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

2 Iterating we obtain that either |A3k | ≥ |A|(1+ε)k or

A3k = G .

3 If |A|(1+ε)k ≥ |G | we must have A3k = G .

4 Thus A` = G where ` = (log |G |)dlog1+ε 3e+1.

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The width ofa finite simple

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A partial proof of Babai’s conjecture

Corollary

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that for any generating setA in G = Gr (q) we have A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Proof.

1 The product theorem implies that either |A3| ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

2 Iterating we obtain that either |A3k | ≥ |A|(1+ε)k or

A3k = G .

3 If |A|(1+ε)k ≥ |G | we must have A3k = G .

4 Thus A` = G where ` = (log |G |)dlog1+ε 3e+1.

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The width ofa finite simple

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A partial proof of Babai’s conjecture

Corollary

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that for any generating setA in G = Gr (q) we have A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Proof.

1 The product theorem implies that either |A3| ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

2 Iterating we obtain that either |A3k | ≥ |A|(1+ε)k or

A3k = G .

3 If |A|(1+ε)k ≥ |G | we must have A3k = G .

4 Thus A` = G where ` = (log |G |)dlog1+ε 3e+1.

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The width ofa finite simple

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A partial proof of Babai’s conjecture

Corollary

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that for any generating setA in G = Gr (q) we have A` = G for some ` ≤ (log |G |)c .

Proof.

1 The product theorem implies that either |A3| ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

2 Iterating we obtain that either |A3k | ≥ |A|(1+ε)k or

A3k = G .

3 If |A|(1+ε)k ≥ |G | we must have A3k = G .

4 Thus A` = G where ` = (log |G |)dlog1+ε 3e+1.

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The width ofa finite simple

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Nick Gill(OU)

Normal subsets

We say that A is a normal subset of G if, for all g ∈ G ,

gAg−1 := {gag−1 | a ∈ A} = A.

Note that A is normal if and only if A is a union of conjugacyclasses of G .Liebeck and Shalev proved a (much) stronger version ofBabai’s conjecture for normal subsets of simple groups:

Theorem

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A a non-trivialnormal subset of a simple group G , we have G = A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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The width ofa finite simple

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Nick Gill(OU)

Normal subsets

We say that A is a normal subset of G if, for all g ∈ G ,

gAg−1 := {gag−1 | a ∈ A} = A.

Note that A is normal if and only if A is a union of conjugacyclasses of G .Liebeck and Shalev proved a (much) stronger version ofBabai’s conjecture for normal subsets of simple groups:

Theorem

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A a non-trivialnormal subset of a simple group G , we have G = A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Normal subsets

We say that A is a normal subset of G if, for all g ∈ G ,

gAg−1 := {gag−1 | a ∈ A} = A.

Note that A is normal if and only if A is a union of conjugacyclasses of G .

Liebeck and Shalev proved a (much) stronger version ofBabai’s conjecture for normal subsets of simple groups:

Theorem

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A a non-trivialnormal subset of a simple group G , we have G = A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Normal subsets

We say that A is a normal subset of G if, for all g ∈ G ,

gAg−1 := {gag−1 | a ∈ A} = A.

Note that A is normal if and only if A is a union of conjugacyclasses of G .Liebeck and Shalev proved a (much) stronger version ofBabai’s conjecture for normal subsets of simple groups:

Theorem

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A a non-trivialnormal subset of a simple group G , we have G = A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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The width ofa finite simple

group

Nick Gill(OU)

Normal subsets

We say that A is a normal subset of G if, for all g ∈ G ,

gAg−1 := {gag−1 | a ∈ A} = A.

Note that A is normal if and only if A is a union of conjugacyclasses of G .Liebeck and Shalev proved a (much) stronger version ofBabai’s conjecture for normal subsets of simple groups:

Theorem

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A a non-trivialnormal subset of a simple group G , we have G = A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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Width

We define the width of G with respect to A to be the minimumnumber ` such that

G = A1A2 · · ·A`

and A1, . . . ,A` are all conjugates of A in G . Write w(G ,A).

Examples for a simple group G .

1 If G is of Lie type, A is a Sylow p-subgroup thenw(G ,A) ≤ 25 [LP01].In fact w(G ,A) ≤ 5 [BNP08].

2 If G = Gr (q), an untwisted simple group of Lie type ofrank r > 1, and A is a particular subgroup isomorphic toSL2(q), then w(G ,A) ≤ 5|Φ+| [LNS11].

In particular, if G = PSLn(q) and A as above thenw(G ,A) ≤ 5

2 n(n + 1).

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Width

We define the width of G with respect to A to be the minimumnumber ` such that

G = A1A2 · · ·A`

and A1, . . . ,A` are all conjugates of A in G . Write w(G ,A).Examples for a simple group G .

1 If G is of Lie type, A is a Sylow p-subgroup thenw(G ,A) ≤ 25 [LP01].In fact w(G ,A) ≤ 5 [BNP08].

2 If G = Gr (q), an untwisted simple group of Lie type ofrank r > 1, and A is a particular subgroup isomorphic toSL2(q), then w(G ,A) ≤ 5|Φ+| [LNS11].

In particular, if G = PSLn(q) and A as above thenw(G ,A) ≤ 5

2 n(n + 1).

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The width ofa finite simple

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Nick Gill(OU)

Width

We define the width of G with respect to A to be the minimumnumber ` such that

G = A1A2 · · ·A`

and A1, . . . ,A` are all conjugates of A in G . Write w(G ,A).Examples for a simple group G .

1 If G is of Lie type, A is a Sylow p-subgroup thenw(G ,A) ≤ 25 [LP01].In fact w(G ,A) ≤ 5 [BNP08].

2 If G = Gr (q), an untwisted simple group of Lie type ofrank r > 1, and A is a particular subgroup isomorphic toSL2(q), then w(G ,A) ≤ 5|Φ+| [LNS11].

In particular, if G = PSLn(q) and A as above thenw(G ,A) ≤ 5

2 n(n + 1).

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Width

We define the width of G with respect to A to be the minimumnumber ` such that

G = A1A2 · · ·A`

and A1, . . . ,A` are all conjugates of A in G . Write w(G ,A).Examples for a simple group G .

1 If G is of Lie type, A is a Sylow p-subgroup thenw(G ,A) ≤ 25 [LP01].In fact w(G ,A) ≤ 5 [BNP08].

2 If G = Gr (q), an untwisted simple group of Lie type ofrank r > 1, and A is a particular subgroup isomorphic toSL2(q), then w(G ,A) ≤ 5|Φ+| [LNS11].In particular, if G = PSLn(q) and A as above thenw(G ,A) ≤ 5

2 n(n + 1).

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The Product Decomposition Conjecture

Liebeck, Nikolov and Shalev conjectured the following:

Conjecture

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A any subset of afinite simple group G of size at least 2, we have G = A1 · · ·A`

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A and ` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

Note the similarity to Babai’s conjecture - but both theassumptions and the conclusion are much stronger.

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The Product Decomposition Conjecture

Liebeck, Nikolov and Shalev conjectured the following:

Conjecture

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A any subset of afinite simple group G of size at least 2, we have G = A1 · · ·A`

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A and ` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

Note the similarity to Babai’s conjecture - but both theassumptions and the conclusion are much stronger.

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The Product Decomposition Conjecture

Liebeck, Nikolov and Shalev conjectured the following:

Conjecture

There exists a constant c > 0 such that, for A any subset of afinite simple group G of size at least 2, we have G = A1 · · ·A`

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A and ` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

Note the similarity to Babai’s conjecture - but both theassumptions and the conclusion are much stronger.

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Some results

We start with a result of Gill, Pyber, Short, Szabo:

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists c > 0 such that, for A any subset ofG = Gr (q) of size at least 2, we have G = A1A2 · · ·A` where` ≤ c log |G |/ log |A|.

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A product theorem for conjugates

On the way to proving this result we came across somethinglike a product theorem for conjugates:

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists ε > 0 such that, for A any subset ofG = Gr (q), there exists g ∈ G such that |A · Ag | ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

We conjecture that the constant ε should be independent of r ,indeed it should be uniform across all simple groups.Note too that, when we’re allowed to take conjugates, weachieve growth in two steps, not three.

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A product theorem for conjugates

On the way to proving this result we came across somethinglike a product theorem for conjugates:

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists ε > 0 such that, for A any subset ofG = Gr (q), there exists g ∈ G such that |A · Ag | ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

We conjecture that the constant ε should be independent of r ,indeed it should be uniform across all simple groups.

Note too that, when we’re allowed to take conjugates, weachieve growth in two steps, not three.

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A product theorem for conjugates

On the way to proving this result we came across somethinglike a product theorem for conjugates:

Theorem

Fix r > 0. There exists ε > 0 such that, for A any subset ofG = Gr (q), there exists g ∈ G such that |A · Ag | ≥ |A|1+ε orA3 = G .

We conjecture that the constant ε should be independent of r ,indeed it should be uniform across all simple groups.Note too that, when we’re allowed to take conjugates, weachieve growth in two steps, not three.

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The Skew Doubling Lemma

An explanation for the two step growth is found in thefollowing result:

Theorem

Let A be a non-empty finite set of a group G such that, forsome K > 0, |AA′| ≤ K |A| for every conjugate A′ of A. Then

|A1 · · ·A`| ≤ K 14(`−1)|A|

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A or A−1.

Note that, if A is normal, we effectively regain the doublinglemma for abelian groups.Could it be that classical additive combinatorics for sets inabelian groups is really about normal subsets of arbitrarygroups?

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The Skew Doubling Lemma

An explanation for the two step growth is found in thefollowing result:

Theorem

Let A be a non-empty finite set of a group G such that, forsome K > 0, |AA′| ≤ K |A| for every conjugate A′ of A. Then

|A1 · · ·A`| ≤ K 14(`−1)|A|

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A or A−1.

Note that, if A is normal, we effectively regain the doublinglemma for abelian groups.

Could it be that classical additive combinatorics for sets inabelian groups is really about normal subsets of arbitrarygroups?

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The Skew Doubling Lemma

An explanation for the two step growth is found in thefollowing result:

Theorem

Let A be a non-empty finite set of a group G such that, forsome K > 0, |AA′| ≤ K |A| for every conjugate A′ of A. Then

|A1 · · ·A`| ≤ K 14(`−1)|A|

where A1, . . . ,A` are conjugates of A or A−1.

Note that, if A is normal, we effectively regain the doublinglemma for abelian groups.Could it be that classical additive combinatorics for sets inabelian groups is really about normal subsets of arbitrarygroups?

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