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    National Press FoundationWhy Pursue Health Reform One Providers View

    National Press FoundationWhy Pursue Health Reform One Providers View

    Robert K. SmoldtMayo Clinic

    November 14, 2007

    Robert K. SmoldtMayo Clinic

    November 14, 2007

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    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Uninsured Uninsured

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    Ian Morrison*Ian Morrison*

    The U.S. is theonly country where

    owning a gunis a right and

    getting health care

    is a privilege

    The U.S. is theonly country where

    owning a gunis a right and

    getting health care

    is a privilege

    *Ian Morrison quote from Mayo Clinic/RANDHealth Reform Forum, March 6, 2007

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    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

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    70.270.2MinnesotaMinnesota Mortality Amenable

    to Health Care

    Mortality Amenable

    to Health Care

    International variation, 1998International variation, 1998

    Deaths before age 75that are potentially

    preventable with timelyand appropriate

    medical care

    Deaths before age 75that are potentially

    preventable with timelyand appropriate

    medical care

    Source: Commonwealth FundNational Scorecard on U.S. Health

    System Performance, 2006

    Source: Commonwealth FundNational Scorecard on U.S. Health

    System Performance, 2006

    Deaths per 100,000 populationDeaths per 100,000 population

    8181

    8484

    8888

    8888

    8888

    92929797

    9797

    9999

    106106

    107107

    109109109109

    115115

    129129

    130130

    132132

    7575

    114.7114.7

    00 5050 100100 150150

    FranceFranceJapanJapan

    SpainSpain

    SwedenSweden

    ItalyItaly

    AustraliaAustralia

    CanadaCanadaNorwayNorway

    NetherlandsNetherlands

    GreeceGreece

    GermanyGermany

    AustriaAustria

    New ZealandNew ZealandDenmarkDenmark

    U.S.U.S.

    FinlandFinland

    IrelandIreland

    U.K.U.K.

    PortugalPortugal

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    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

    Disintegrated,fragmented care

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

    Disintegrated,fragmented care

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    Why is coordinated,integrated care needed?

    Why is coordinated,integrated care needed?

    Medicare patients with 4+ chronicconditions are what % of total cost?

    68% Yearly per person average

    13 physicians

    50 prescriptions

    Medicare patients with 4+ chronicconditions are what % of total cost?

    68% Yearly per person average

    13 physicians

    50 prescriptions

    Sources: WSJ, Feb 8, 2006; Archives of IM, Nov 11, 2002

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    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Fundamental Issuesfrom a Providers Perspective

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

    Disintegrated,fragmented care

    High cost

    Uninsured

    Variable quality

    Disintegrated,fragmented care

    High cost

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    Is U.S. only place where health carecosts are rising?

    Is U.S. only place where health carecosts are rising?

    Health spending per person in real terms,average annual % increase 1970-2002

    Health spending per person in real terms,average annual % increase 1970-2002

    Source: The Health of Nations, Economist, July 17, 2004

    4.0%4.0%OtherOECDcountries

    OtherOECDcountries

    4.4%4.4%

    00 1.01.0 2.02.0 3.03.0 4.04.0 5.05.0

    U.S.U.S.

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    Variability in EfficiencyVariability in Efficiency

    Leapfrogs Honor Roll 39 U.S. teachinghospitals (based primarily on processmeasures)

    Dartmouth data on cost per Medicareenrollee in last 6 months of life*

    Most efficient hospital $15,800

    Least efficient $45,600

    Leapfrogs Honor Roll 39 U.S. teachinghospitals (based primarily on processmeasures)

    Dartmouth data on cost per Medicareenrollee in last 6 months of life*

    Most efficient hospital $15,800

    Least efficient $45,600

    *Dartmouth Atlas, 2006(?)

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    A view that health spending does yieldbenefits

    A view that health spending does yieldbenefits

    NY Times, August 22, 2006:Making Health Care the Enginethat Drives the Economy

    By 2030, predicts Robert Fogel, NobelLaureate at the University of Chicago, about 25%of GDP will be spent in health care making it thedriving force of the economy. Dr. Fogel is notalarmed. Americans can afford it. He explains,

    At the end of the 19th century, food, clothing andshelter accounted for 80% of the family budget.Today it is about a third.

    NY Times, August 22, 2006:Making Health Care the Enginethat Drives the Economy

    By 2030, predicts Robert Fogel, NobelLaureate at the University of Chicago, about 25%of GDP will be spent in health care making it thedriving force of the economy. Dr. Fogel is notalarmed. Americans can afford it. He explains,

    At the end of the 19th century, food, clothing andshelter accounted for 80% of the family budget.Today it is about a third.

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    A view that health spending does yieldbenefits

    A view that health spending does yieldbenefits

    NY Times, August 22, 2006:Making Health Care the Enginethat Drives the Economy

    Says Robert E. Hall (Stanford) andCharles I. Jones (University of California, Berkley),We have to spend our money on something.So we get older and richer, which is morevaluable: a third car, yet another television, more

    clothingor an extra yearof your life?

    NY Times, August 22, 2006:Making Health Care the Enginethat Drives the Economy

    Says Robert E. Hall (Stanford) andCharles I. Jones (University of California, Berkley),We have to spend our money on something.So we get older and richer, which is morevaluable: a third car, yet another television, more

    clothingor an extra yearof your life?

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    Mayo Clinic Health Policy CenterMayo Clinic Health Policy Center

    Goal

    Influence stakeholders to implement

    substantive health care reformbefore 2011 that will preserve qualityand availability of health care for allpatients

    Goal

    Influence stakeholders to implement

    substantive health care reformbefore 2011 that will preserve qualityand availability of health care for allpatients

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    Top Issues from SymposiumTop Issues from Symposium

    Baker Center Univ. of TennesseeBaker Center Univ. of Tennessee Health insurance for all Americans Health insurance for all Americans

    Improving effectiveness and

    efficiency

    Improving effectiveness and

    efficiency

    Improving integration of care Improving integration of care

    Pay for value Pay for value

    Harvard Kennedy Health Policy CenterHarvard Kennedy Health Policy Center

    RAND CorporationRAND Corporation

    Dartmouth Evaluative Clinical SciencesDartmouth Evaluative Clinical Sciences

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    Individual Ownershipof Insurance for All

    Individual Ownershipof Insurance for All

    Provide health insurance and access to basichealth care for all Americans regardlessof their ability to pay

    Require individual ownership of insurance Provide sliding-scale subsidies for those in need

    Create a simple mechanism (FEHBP) tocoordinate insurance offerings

    Appoint an independent health board to defineessential health care services

    Allow people the option to buy more coverage

    Provide health insurance and access to basichealth care for all Americans regardlessof their ability to pay

    Require individual ownership of insurance Provide sliding-scale subsidies for those in need

    Create a simple mechanism (FEHBP) tocoordinate insurance offerings

    Appoint an independent health board to defineessential health care services

    Allow people the option to buy more coverage

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    Are there models of this approach?Are there models of this approach?

    NetherlandsNetherlands

    FEHBPFEHBP

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    Effectiveness and EfficiencyEffectiveness and Efficiency

    Increase quality and patient satisfaction.Decrease medical errors, costs and waste.

    Develop a common definition of value

    Measure and display outcomes, patientsatisfaction scores and costs as a whole

    Create a trusted mechanism to synthesizescientific, clinical and medical information

    Reward consumers for choosing high-qualityhealth plans and providers

    Hold all sectors accountable for reducingwaste and inefficiencies

    Increase quality and patient satisfaction.Decrease medical errors, costs and waste.

    Develop a common definition of value

    Measure and display outcomes, patientsatisfaction scores and costs as a whole

    Create a trusted mechanism to synthesizescientific, clinical and medical information

    Reward consumers for choosing high-qualityhealth plans and providers

    Hold all sectors accountable for reducingwaste and inefficiencies

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    Improving IntegrationImproving Integration

    Patient care services must be coordinated acrosspeople, functions, activities, sites and timeto increase value

    Center care around the needs of the patient

    Form coordinated systems to deliver effectiveand appropriate care to patients

    Develop incentives to encourage teamwork

    Increase support for health care delivery science

    Provide accurate information so patients canmake informed decisions

    Patient care services must be coordinated acrosspeople, functions, activities, sites and timeto increase value

    Center care around the needs of the patient

    Form coordinated systems to deliver effectiveand appropriate care to patients

    Develop incentives to encourage teamwork

    Increase support for health care delivery science

    Provide accurate information so patients canmake informed decisions

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    Mayo/Dartmouth ForumMayo/Dartmouth Forum

    Principles for Payment Reform

    Payment systems should be designed toprovide patients with no less than the care

    they need and no more than fullyinformed, cost-conscious patients wouldwant

    Pay providers based on value

    measurable outcomes, safety and servicecompared to the cost over time

    Principles for Payment Reform

    Payment systems should be designed toprovide patients with no less than the care

    they need and no more than fullyinformed, cost-conscious patients wouldwant

    Pay providers based on value

    measurable outcomes, safety and servicecompared to the cost over time

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    Mayo/Dartmouth ForumMayo/Dartmouth ForumProvider scores on the importance of continuing

    development of the payment approachProvider scores on the importance of continuing

    development of the payment approach

    00 22 44 66 88 1010

    Score (10 = very important)Score (10 = very important)

    FFS with shared savingsFFS with shared savings

    Overall capitationOverall capitation

    FFS with outcomes rewardFFS with outcomes reward

    5.65.6

    5.85.8

    5.95.9

    Mini-capitationMini-capitation

    Shared decision makingShared decision making

    Chronic disease coordinator(medical home)

    Chronic disease coordinator(medical home)

    7.57.5

    7.67.6

    8.68.6

    Present Medicare P4P based onprocess delivered by individual provider

    Present Medicare P4P based onprocess delivered by individual provider

    1.81.8

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    Dr. Len M. Nichols(New America Foundation) testimony to U.S.

    Committee of the Budget, June 26, 2007

    Dr. Len M. Nichols(New America Foundation) testimony to U.S.

    Committee of the Budget, June 26, 2007

    The secret is not, however, to re-jigger10,000 prices in 3,000 counties so that we

    get them right once and for all (untilmedical knowledge or technology or inputprices change again). The secret is

    tobundle ever-larger sets of services into

    one payment, which frees clinicians andproviders to find the most efficient way todeliver health.

    The secret is not, however, to re-jigger10,000 prices in 3,000 counties so that we

    get them right once and for all (untilmedical knowledge or technology or inputprices change again). The secret is

    tobundle ever-larger sets of services into

    one payment, which frees clinicians andproviders to find the most efficient way todeliver health.

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    Hypothetical example of problemwith line item pricing emphasis

    Hypothetical example of problemwith line item pricing emphasis

    MDTeam A

    $7,200

    0.5

    $18,000

    2,500

    $45.0 M

    MDTeam A

    $7,200

    0.5

    $18,000

    2,500

    $45.0 M

    MDTeam B

    $6,500

    1.2

    $21,000

    4,400

    $92.4 M

    MDTeam B

    $6,500

    1.2

    $21,000

    4,400

    $92.4 M

    CoronaryAngioplasty

    Fee

    ICU days

    Cost per episode

    No. per 1 million

    populationCost per 1 million

    population

    CoronaryAngioplasty

    Fee

    ICU days

    Cost per episode

    No. per 1 million

    populationCost per 1 million

    population

    Cost of Bas % of A

    -10%

    +17%

    +105%

    Cost of Bas % of A

    -10%

    +17%

    +105%

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    Total Cost =Price x Use Rate

    Total Cost =Price x Use Rate

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    Price Controls: Graysons MaximPrice Controls: Graysons Maxim

    Add (price) controls and you will see newservices appear. Expect unbundling ofservices with the price of individual units,

    when added together, totaling more thanthe original services.

    C. Jackson Grayson Jr.Chair, U.S. Price Commission (1971-1973)

    Add (price) controls and you will see newservices appear. Expect unbundling ofservices with the price of individual units,

    when added together, totaling more thanthe original services.

    C. Jackson Grayson Jr.Chair, U.S. Price Commission (1971-1973)

    Source: Wall Street Journal, 29 Mar 1993

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    Annual Rates of Increase in Physician Feesand Expenditures/Fee-for-Service BeneficiaryAnnual Rates of Increase in Physician Fees

    and Expenditures/Fee-for-Service Beneficiary

    Source: Letter to Medicare Payment Advisory Commissionfrom Herb B. Kuhn, Director, Center for Medicare Management, CMS 4/7/06

    as referenced by Dr. Stuart Guterman, The Commonwealth Fund

    .4

    -0.7

    7.4 7.4

    -

    0

    4

    6 Fees

    SGR-related

    expenditures/fee-for-servicebeneficiary

    Fees

    SGR-related

    expenditures/fee-for-servicebeneficiary

    Annualpercentchange

    Annualpercentchange

    1997- 0011997- 001 001- 005001- 005

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    Price Controls: Graysons MaximPrice Controls: Graysons Maxim

    No matter how simply you begin,your controls will get morecomplex and voluminous.

    We started with3 pagesof regulations and ended with1,534. In an effort to correct oneinequity, you create another.

    C. Jackson Grayson Jr.Chair, U.S. Price Commission (1971-1973)

    No matter how simply you begin,your controls will get morecomplex and voluminous.

    We started with3 pagesof regulations and ended with1,534. In an effort to correct oneinequity, you create another.

    C. Jackson Grayson Jr.Chair, U.S. Price Commission (1971-1973)

    Source: Wall Street Journal, 29 Mar 1993

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    Patient/Public Input Focus GroupsPatient/Public Input Focus Groups

    Six sessions in Atlanta, Cincinnati,and Los Angeles with chronicdisease patients

    Reviewed cornerstones of MCHPCrecommendations without identifyingthem with Mayo Clinic: Insurance

    for all, coordinated care, value

    Six sessions in Atlanta, Cincinnati,and Los Angeles with chronicdisease patients

    Reviewed cornerstones of MCHPCrecommendations without identifyingthem with Mayo Clinic: Insurance

    for all, coordinated care, value

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    Public Views OverallPublic Views Overall

    Cornerstones accepted when explainedbut are not self evident

    When changing delivery system,concerned about major shifts

    Recommend a phased approach trynew things, see if work, then put in playmore broadly

    People are dissatisfied with U.S. healthsystem, BUT are happy with their providers

    Change could make things worsefor them

    Cornerstones accepted when explainedbut are not self evident

    When changing delivery system,concerned about major shifts

    Recommend a phased approach trynew things, see if work, then put in playmore broadly

    People are dissatisfied with U.S. healthsystem, BUT are happy with their providers

    Change could make things worsefor them

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    YOUR VOICE, NEW VISION ProgramYOUR VOICE, NEW VISION Program

    Nine city tour to collect letters and filmand record woman/man on the streetviews

    Mayo organized, but other partners:

    Partners

    American Hospital Association

    American Medical Group Association Kaiser Permanente

    Nine city tour to collect letters and filmand record woman/man on the streetviews

    Mayo organized, but other partners:

    Partners

    American Hospital Association

    American Medical Group Association Kaiser Permanente

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    Mayo Clinic National Symposiumon Health Care Reform

    Mayo Clinic National Symposiumon Health Care Reform

    Brief review of forum principles

    Review/analyze major health reform proposalsfrom presidential candidates

    Identify/prioritize actions that different sectorscan take to contribute to positive health carereform

    Begin creating an action plan for change

    Brief review of forum principles

    Review/analyze major health reform proposalsfrom presidential candidates

    Identify/prioritize actions that different sectorscan take to contribute to positive health carereform

    Begin creating an action plan for change

    March 9-11, 2008Leesburg, VA

    March 9-11, 2008Leesburg, VA